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Hey, everyone. This is Bobby McHec'bob speaking. First of all, I'd like to inform the mod that we don't plan on remaining anonymous (Hectic and Egduf). Best for EVERYONE involved if there's previous meta to examine. GREAT, I am SO happy that is now sorted out. Now that we have that out of the way and into the dumpster, I have some fucking fantastic reads I'd like to give out in my next post. Hope you BOTHER to read them.- Citceh
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Still Bobby speaking. This is CLEARLY an attempt to direct discussion towards non game-related and scum-finding stuff. How DISAPPOINTING. Let's lynch her with a THERMONUCLEAR WARHEAD. Glad to see we have you on our side, Mastina. Hope you enjoyed my fucking fantastic read. That's all from me for a couple of weeks.
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Hello Lilimip von Egg here
Bobby's suspisions have spiralled out of control, there is no need for our good friend Tris to be at L-1 right now.
UNVOTE: Tris
Thats exiting! But maybe you were playing under a different account when you two met, because she doesn't remember you.In post 35, DrDolittle wrote:I know Egduf personally.- Citceh
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Bobby checking the truck in. Let's give the Doc a taste of his own MEDICINE. Espresso is too DAFT to realise that Egduf has already weighed in as one "Lilimip von Egg". Espresso is regrettably looking like a town member here, he'd only be mafia with Doctor Hopson, and I mafiaread Doctor Hopson with EVERY fibre in my being. So Espresso can be town FOR NOW.
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Having said that, I do dislike the over the top caution espressed by Espresso here. Ridiculous.In post 63, EspressoPatronum wrote: I haven't checked the vote count yet, but consider myunofficial voteon Dolittle. I'll check back in a few hours, count things up, and vote accordingly.
I, Bobby McHec'ton declare Intent to hammer on Espresso.- Citceh
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You better not be taking shots at my old friend Charles, ALRIGHT? Why was Charles hooked in in the first place to have to be released now? Your answer may affect my read on you for the entirety of this game.
I cannot disagree with your logic that our slot is two times as likely to contain mafia. I, Bobby can vouch for myself being a [BULLETPROOF COP], I will allow Lilimip to claim in her own time, but I currently suspect she has crumbed being a [LYNCHPROOF DOCTOR]. Now that you've made us spill all of our fucking secrets, you should do the same.- Citceh
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You're EXACTLY right. I hope he remembers this on on D3 when he's on L-1, I will hammer without warning if he doesn't claim then in a reasonable amount of time.In post 72, Doctor Drew wrote:
Are you just saying this for the oft chance espresso gets to L-1 at any chance?
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HEY, that's pretty rude, you just happened to catch me in a demonic mood today. I'll try and calm myself down for the evening, and come up with some excellent rational reads, just be patient, ALRIGHT?In post 73, EspressoPatronum wrote:
I'm not kidding when I say this:
Take EVERYTHING Hectic says with a grain of salt. Half of it makes no sense.
I, Bobby McHec'ton see through your code EASILY, Hopson. You're clearly crumbing [BULLETPROOF DOCTOR] there, a stupendous move. My mafiaread on you has move from major to sergeant.- Citceh
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Doctor Hopson, are you trying to provoke me into fighting Bobby's battles? I'm sure him and Espresso can talk out their own disagreements civily. It would be nice to hear more of an explanation from you as to why Charles is scummy, as I don't think his comment on DrDoLittles vote really means anything. Has the other half of your hydra posted yet, or are all the unlabelled posts from H?
I would also like to say that I would be interested in seeing the reads that Tris mentioned having a page ago.
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Why hello there, my GOOD friend Charles, it's Bobby speaking. What's wrong with Hopson's post here?In post 90, Charles510 wrote:
WTF?In post 79, Doctor Hopson wrote:I'm just going to come out and claim I'm the mafia lynchproof cop (you were close though). I know it's an odd move, but I've got a hunch this game is bastard and there's actually 7 mafia and 2 town.
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Bobby checking in, we should principle lynch this. Anyone dare to disagree?In post 102, Doctor Hopson wrote:P.S. Hectic Sensei pleasetouchteachme more. I'm under your guidance OwO- Citceh
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It's bucking Bobby again. Why are you treating his "7 mafia and 2 town" claim seriously? You're a good friend of mine Charles, and we go WAY back, but seems like a flimsy reason to vote someone.In post 94, Charles510 wrote:why come out and claim to be mafia?
UNVOTE: DrDoLittle
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Answering as who the fuck ever it is:In post 108, Doctor Drew wrote:Hectic, or Bobby or who the fuck ever it is. Have you played with Charles?No.
I (Bobby McHec'ton) like Drew's frustration in his last post. A CAUTIOUS townread.- Citceh
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I SEE, my mafiaread on you has now moved from sergeant to lieutenant, and has therefore wrapped around back to a TOWNREAD. Join us on the Charles wagon, Hopkirk, we could get a quickhammer in before Doctor Watson checks in, he's probably asleep right now.In post 109, Doctor Hopson wrote:100% agree. Wouldn't tolerate anything like that. Not sure why it's got my name in the quote though since I didn't post anything like that so you must have edited the quote tags.
Will comment on the doctors tomorrow. Busy atm.
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Bobby speaking right now: I think post 14 and 102 were by Doctor Watson, and the others by Hopkirk. The doc could make which posts are by them a LITTLE clearer though. SURE, it'll get difficult if they never acknowledge each other's posts and pretend to be non-hydras when questioned, but NO way do we policy lynch that. Nothing wrong with a nice dose of humour in the game, and they can't keep this up for the game's entirety...In post 118, EspressoPatronum wrote:I kinda want to policy Doc H because the hydra shenanigans are going to be a pain.
Icing on the cake that others think Doc H is scummy.right?
Any-fucking-way, I like Hopkirk's posts thus far; it's been a healthy dose of memes besides some productive scumhunting. Watson's second post is terrible, but I don't mafiaread him THAT much for it since though it's a little late to be joking around like that (5 fucking pages in), I can definitely see him doing that.
You should know that Hopkirk is 100% joking here, NO way does he think he can start something between Egduf and Espresso with this.In post 97, DrDolittle wrote:
He attempts to set up a provocation between citeh and espresso to further derail hunting. This looks like a scum positioning into being able to push either expresso or citeh depending on how the game progresses. Hopson is both scummy independently, and could be scum with tris in that he's trying to push attention away.Wow, what a discredit. Are you going to take that Edugf?
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You know what, it's probably easier if I just say that Egduf, Hopkirk, Doctor Watson, and I have played QUITE a few games together off-site. I was initially alarmed by the HIGH volume of memes Hopkirk was generating early on; he's not one to meme THIS much in a forum format, but it was beside some decent scumhunting and prodding, so I think it's just him having fun given how fucking weird this situation is.
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Is it? Thought Charles didn't like him for openwolfing or joking about being mafia. Would be nice to get CHARLES in here to clarify, this is a request from your old friend, Bobby.In post 127, DrDolittle wrote:For all your meme allowing citeh, why are you voting Charles for what's even more obvious a shitpost?- Citceh
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Bobby here. This is based on who I think you are in the anonymous game, and my memory of you from the Author/Heroes game, but I agree.In post 133, Doctor Hopson wrote:I don't think you've seen me in a forum format recently, and you've got to admit you're a bad influence there.
Your recent reads list looks like you're ISSUING a challenge. Fine, my associate, Lilimip, will be able to provide you with a confusing but useful reads list.- Citceh
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^In post 150, Hectic wrote:Are you saying it's a joke that mafia are more likely to make than town? I suppose, I, Bobby, don't know you after all, Charles. I had you confused with another good friend of mine. How DISAPPOINTING.
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Reads:
Maybe Town - EspressoPatronum, Dr Drew
Both give me Town vibes, and are genuinely engaging with the game in a useful way.
Slightly Town - Doctor Hopson
With the exception of lots of memes, I think Hopson has been useful this game. Bobby’s opinion may differ, and he is normally better at reading Hopkirk than me. I’m on Board with policy Lynching for the OwO.
Null - DrDoLittle
Initially got townie vibes from them. The unannounced L - 1 was weird, but not really beneficial for mafia. They may have initially been avoiding conversation, but have commented on everything now in an ok-ish way.
Null - Mastina
Hasn’t posted much
Null - Charles
Getting bad vibes, but apparently he has a reputation for that so I’ll wait a little longer before judging him too harshly for that.
Slightly Mafia - Tris
Also hasn’t posted much, but I’m getting bad vibes at the moment. She has mentioned a couple of times now that she has things to say, but will only say then later.
That’s all from my confusing reads list! I hope it is helpful as promised.
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Good wishes, everyone. It is I, Serena "Hoctic" Serene-a.
Doctor Drew:I've noticed that several of your reads on others are based on meta from previously playing with them. Is there a recent game you could link me which had 3 or more of you in it? It would certainly be fruitful to read through such a game.
I assume the "blatant sheeping" part of this read is in jest. However, why do you mafiaread Mastina for her recent inactivity since the game commenced? Is this based on previous meta with her?In post 159, EspressoPatronum wrote:Scum pool
Mastina - lurking and blatant sheeping. Policy candidate.
I am still unhappy about this post:
Especially since Charles acknowledges it to be a joke here:In post 90, Charles510 wrote:
WTF?In post 79, Doctor Hopson wrote:I'm just going to come out and claim I'm the mafia lynchproof cop (you were close though). I know it's an odd move, but I've got a hunch this game is bastard and there's actually 7 mafia and 2 town.
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VOTE: Hopson
His initial reaction to it and vote seems over the top to me. Happy to leave my vote on Charles for the time being. That'll be all for now, if any of you are suffering from untimely stress or agitation, I recommend a healthy dose of meditation, and a prompt visit to the nearest Paranoid Gun Owner. Good day.In post 152, Charles510 wrote:
YesIn post 150, Hectic wrote:Are you saying it's a joke that mafia are more likely to make than town?
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Sure, Charles. Let's discuss.In post 163, Charles510 wrote:
I am perfectly willing to engage in discussion. Let's discussIn post 159, EspressoPatronum wrote:Charles - unhelpful posts thus far. Unwillingness to engage in discussion
Is this vote on me because you mafiaread me, or was it borne of frustration at Bobby insisting you knew each other?In post 147, Charles510 wrote:
We do not go way back. I am not your friend.In post 107, Citceh wrote:It's bucking Bobby again. Why are you treating his "7 mafia and 2 town" claim seriously? You're a good friend of mine Charles, and we go WAY back, but seems like a flimsy reason to vote someone.
I've voted people for flimsier reasons.
In fact,
VOTE: Citceh
I'll help my associate out:In post 166, Clemency wrote: tfw so useless people forget you're here
VERY Slightly Null Mafia - Not contributed much. Given out a few reads without reasoning behind them.
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My sincerest apologies. Ignore that please, that was Bobby joking around and conveying clearly flawed logic in jest.In post 175, tris wrote:
Wait, wouldn't this lead you to read espresso as possibly mafia?In post 68, Citceh wrote:Espresso is regrettably looking like a town member here, he'd only be mafia with Doctor Hopson, and I mafiaread Doctor Hopson with EVERY fibre in my being. So Espresso can be town FOR NOW.
What's the name of this game which had you 5 in it?
Charles, what happened to wanting to engage and discuss? You didn't answer my question, buddy.
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How come? Another meta read?In post 172, tris wrote:Yeah, I think espresso's town.
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Oh, I missed that link. Much appreciated.
Why should an obvious joke about there being "7 mafia and 2 town" cause any confusion? If anything, it's your reaction and push on it which is causing the confusion here, my friend.In post 149, Charles510 wrote:Anything that causes confusion helps mafia I think.
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Surprised the other 5 players haven't commented on the self-hammer yet.
Since Oversoul seems to be occupied, I can step in to moderate temporarily. Scum, feel free to post your night actions in this thread. I'll sort everything out and then wipe my memory of said actions once D2 rolls around. All other players in this game, please disregard any night actions submitted by scum in this thread, and play as if you never saw them. Thank you for your cooperation.
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Huh, why do I have the feeling that scum decided to no-kill out of some honour code? Anyone know people here that are the type of players to do something like that?
Is that something you think you would do, Doctor Hopson? This is especially directed at your Doctor Watson head. I'll do some actual scumhunting later, for now though, everyone stay calm and embrace serenity.
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I will make my grand return in the morning. I encourage holding the highest of expectations for this event, as I predict I shall have a gamesolve in a matter of5mere rereads of the thread.
For now though, I recommend everyone stay out of trouble, and to incorporate a peaceful state of well-being into one's very mind and soul.
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Why is forgetting something from a past game towny? Her natural reaction to it? Could have that same reaction as scum too.In post 259, DrDolittle wrote:255 - 257 seems pretty town as well
Other than Hopkirk's change in tone/seriousness, do you have any other reasons to scumread him? I can tell you know that you should write of his memery as mostly NAI, having played with him recently, especially off-site.In post 274, DrDolittle wrote:I think you're big scum dude
Can't fault them for that. Serenity comes from within the soul, and if you look even more closely, you may even find a Paranoid Gun Owner in there.In post 278, DrDolittle wrote:Seems like everyone is following your advice to stay out of trouble and be peaceful
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^This was Lilimip btw.In post 276, Citceh wrote:Having read through the thread I sympathise with Mastina a bit, but it was nice of the mafia not to kill anyone for us after two unexpected deaths.
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EBAWOOPIn post 301, Citceh wrote:
Other than Hopkirk's change in tone/seriousness, do you have any other reasons to scumread him? I can tell youIn post 274, DrDolittle wrote:I think you're big scum dudethat you should write of his memery as mostly NAI, having played with him recently, especially off-site.knownow
You back Doc? Let's hear your gamesolve; who do we lynch today?In post 298, Doctor Drew wrote:Quickly going through mastinas iso, and at the risk of omgus, can you please expound your scum read on me a little bit?
I really don't get the scum reads on you, but I don't understand your scum read on me.
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In post 236, mastina wrote: Separately, even though I sincerely doubt that they're scumbuddies, I actually have suspicions about Doctor Drew as well.In post 237, mastina wrote:Actually.
I prefer this.
VOTE: DrDolittle
He's actually the stronger of the scumreads in the duo of tris/DDL.
How did your read on DDL progress to obvscum between those posts?In post 290, mastina wrote:Basically you're scumreads-for-lack-of-better-options, whereas ddl I actually feel is legit just obvscum.
What's your sound logic on DDL being scum? Give us examples of fabricated posts if that's the only thing the read originates from.In post 290, mastina wrote:None of these are particularly strong, mind you, though I feel that the reasoning on ddl is actually legitimately sound, solid logic which actually incriminates him whereas my scumreads on you and Drew are more like, "I find this suspicious, even though I am not sure it's scum indicative".
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I don't like this post. Honestly, I kind of struggling to see why you've got us down as such a strong townlean. My activity in particular this game has been lacklustre, and I'm surprised you haven't brought that up as alignment-indicative, as I'm usually a lot more active as town.In post 294, Doctor Hopson wrote:Apologies all, Watson here for my first post. It seems like I missed the entirety of D1.
First of all Charles selfvote and Expresso's modkill was unfortunate and killed the game slightly. Charles was a null read for me before their flip and Expresso was a solid townread for me before their flip.
Citceh is a strong townlean for me. I've played with both of them enough to understand their mindset and they haven't done anything so far out of place and they've been pushing forward discussion on day one.
Doctor Drew is a townlean with Charles flip on day one and does seem to be trying to figure out the game.
Clemency hasn't posted much so was a null read for me but now they are being replaced. Though getting replaced makes it a very slight null to townlean on them.
I think the game is solved now as assuming it's a scum duo in this set up. It's between mastina, tris, and DrDolittle. I'm leaning towards a drdolittle and tris duo with both voting for mastina.
Tuesday votes:
7:17PM - DrDolittle votes for Mastina
9:09PM - Tris votes Mastina
9:24PM - Mastina votes Tris
9:30PM - Mastina switches to DrDolittle
@Tris: Why do you like me?
@Mastina: Why do you gut townread/lean Clemency despite him not saying much?
@DrDolittle: In post 254, why did you reference that game in particular for reference, it feels selective just to justify your reads. Have you looked at any other games for reference?
P.S. When I looked at my own ISO, I was surprised to find 37 posts already in there...
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What from Doc has given you the impression he's trying to figure out the game? Examples would be helpful.
And a strong townlean on me and a normal townlean on Doc doesn't mean the game is solved?
Your voting analysis is pretty interesting though for implicating Tris/DDL, though it does make me wonder if they'd wagon someone so close to each other if they were both scum.
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Is this serious?In post 307, Doctor Hopson wrote:I'm become very concerned at this moment that Citceh is mafia here.
@Doctor Watson: can you take a look at this for me.
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I'm back to help you all find some peace.
What's the issue with my reads progression?In post 317, Doctor Hopson wrote:I can see Citceh/Drew here.
Sitting back and letting us fight it out so that one of us (Tris/DDL or Mastina/Hopson) gets lynched, then using that to lynch from the other group.
Not a fan of Hectic's reads progressions and Drew feels tactically lurking since d2 began.
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So you're now scumreading me for my lack of activity and letting people fight within themselves. What only brought on this read after my recent surge of posts?
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Might sheep this. Heard you're some kind of a good player, right Mastina?In post 318, mastina wrote:
I reread D1 and read his posts. When I started, I was going off of memory. But then I reread the game and remember JUST how bad Dr Dolittle's posts were--and also remembered that this is the sort of posting which matches my mental map of his scumplay meta.In post 304, Citceh wrote:How did your read on DDL progress to obvscum between those posts?
Well for a start. I am like 90% sure this is his scum meta.In post 304, Citceh wrote:What's your sound logic on DDL being scum?
35 and 37 were the initial scumread. His tris's interactions felt like scum theater--even if tris isn't scum, they felt incredibly fake regardless of her alignment.
However.
The real scumread came from 97.
That post?
Pure scum posting. It is the type of post that I enter the game when I'm scum making: a big post to try and be logical and establish strong stances which generate townreads, but all of it is forced. It is 100% entirely a scumpost. It's what made me go from thinking he's scum vaguely to "oh yeah this guy's lockscum".
VOTE: DrDoLittle L-1
No need to claim yet though.
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Well we have 9 days of discussion, so not now.
UNVOTE: DoctorDoLittle
Eh, I'll unvote actually, have bad experiences recently with people lolhammering far too early. Let's compose ourselves and find collectedness in the meantime.
I'm really struggling to read Mastina, I keep changing my mind about her. Her first post about voting analysis I don't really like, and makes a lot of assumptions which I don't think are reasonable to make. But her 318 is pretty good imo and she's kind of selling me more on DDL!scum.
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Why are you bringing this up before he claims?In post 336, Mislim Bait wrote:Right we still got 9 days so I'll take my time slowly
pft are u even pr ur making it sound like u need to claimIn post 331, DrDolittle wrote:When should I claim?
I'm gonna lynch ur ass if u claim vt
If he's scum who was gonna claim VT, he's a lot less likely to now.
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REALLY? You haven't said anything for Day 2 and the first thing you actually comment on is my indecisiveness on putting someone on L-1?
You know what I think? I think you saw Doctor Hopson's initial suspicions on me earlier and thought "HEY, maybe I can push Citceh here."
HOW is my quick vote and unvote scum-motivated? Tris is right btw.
VOTE: DoctorDrew
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WOAH. Mislynch Bait just scumslipped, he's confirmed scum with Mastina.In post 346, Mislim Bait wrote:U guys are boring no one reacted to my scumslip
EASY GAME.
DayVig: Mislynch Bait.
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Lilimip is Egduf. Bobby/Serena is Hectic. Apologies for this confusion.In post 377, Mislim Bait wrote:Serena/hectic/lilimp/bobby/edguf
How many fucking names does this two guys have
Or are there 3 or more guys in this hydra
So who do you want to lynch today? And what do you mean in 379? Fire at will at Mastina or at people on her wagon?
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Where's your breadcrumb for your role at the start of the game, DDL?In post 411, DrDolittle wrote:Is that the intent?
I claim informeddamptracker. I followed n1 hop but he didn't go anywhere.
the damp modifier allows me to track only when my vote is not on a town lynch or on a scum lynch.
The informed part I'll let out if everyone agrees on.
And yes, tell us the informed part.
Haven't been giving this game the attention it deserves. Swear on my serenity I'll catchup tomorrow evening.
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Slow rolling it like this.In post 428, Doctor Drew wrote:I would hammer as well, I don't buy their claim.
But, I wanna do my due diligence before so.
If there is something that you, Tris, or anyone wants to ask.....than ask away.
Scum hoping for people to reconsider?
Town actually considering the utility of asking questions?
I do find it weird that scum!Drew didn't bus DDL harder when it became apparent he was gonna be lynched.- Citceh
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Where did the DDL scumread come from in this post?In post 340, Doctor Drew wrote:Citeh, what the fuck?
Why put someone at L-1, tell them not to claim, and then immediately unvote. I know I haven't been super active, but this by far has been the scummiest shit I have seen all game.
Wouldn't be surprised if it isn't a DrDoo and you scum team.
VOTE: Citeh
The last time you mentioned him, you called him probtown, and I can't see any mention of him until this post.
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In post 339, tris wrote:I find both mastina and dolittle to be scummy, so I'm not sure where to go here.
The points mastina is making are a good argument, but she doesn't seem like town her. Why is that, mastina?
This is kinda bad. Scumreads Drew/Mastina but votes for Drew after seeing an opportunity to push him?In post 342, tris wrote:
What's so scummy about that? It seems like a natural enough changing of his mind. This vote actually seems kind of scummy to me. You're just going for something easy.In post 340, Doctor Drew wrote:Citeh, what the fuck?
Why put someone at L-1, tell them not to claim, and then immediately unvote. I know I haven't been super active, but this by far has been the scummiest shit I have seen all game.
Wouldn't be surprised if it isn't a DrDoo and you scum team.
VOTE: Citeh
VOTE: Doctor Drew
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Just got back from a most relaxing holiday in Vienna. I frequented many spas and serenity dens, and am now ready to tackle this game once more.
Doctor Drew>>>tris>Mastina>>Doctor Hopson>>Mislynch Bait are my reads currently.
Random points I can remember right now:
-Tris' hammer test was very towny.
-Drew's reaction to it was nothing special. I'd lean towards it being fake if anything. There's no way any scum there would admit defeat to being hammered without actually checking if it's a test first. So kind of confused why some people are treating it as making Drew more towny. It's NAI at best, and can be easily faked.
-Mislynch Bait is top tier town because it wasn't like DDL was the top lynch candidate yesterday, so I don't see scum!him doing that to his partner unless he's insane and very confident.
-Hopson is a lot more town now for bringing up that town tell thing. I literally don't even know what this tell is, so he has no reason to bring it up here and defend me, thus shrinking the potential mislynch pool for scum!him.
-I can see Mastina bussing Drew here. Her post on D2 left alternate lynches open like Drew/Tris that day. So she wasn't gunning for DDL like Mislynch Bait was.
-Drew continues to be scummy and contributes very little of use. Active lurking as they used to say in the AustriaHungarian Empire. Though maybe I'm a little biased in my read on him, because I just don't understand him scumreading me off of that vote/unvote and then doubling down on it with non-reasons past that.
So basically:
Want to lynch Drew today, and then would be very suprised if it wasn't tris/Mastina if that flipped town.
I will put more effort into seeing if Drew is actually scum tomorrow probably maybe quite possibly I suppose.
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