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Post Post #60 (isolation #0) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:45 am

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In post 48, Unstuck in Time wrote:VOTE: benhalkum

That Vorkuta vote was terrible in the first place... but you unvote and revote?

I hope you aren't intentionally trying to end RVS

-TL
What's wrong with that?
VOTE: benhalkum
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Post Post #63 (isolation #1) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:57 pm

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I don't like Vorkuta
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Post Post #67 (isolation #2) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:03 pm

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I think you can just ignore those bits. I expect him to say some less confusing more serious stuff at some point.
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Post Post #70 (isolation #3) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:06 pm

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In post 66, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 63, tris wrote:I don't like Vorkuta
Is it because of ultimate werewolf? :P
In post 61, RCEnigma wrote:Problem is we could have 2-4 different roles and the only ones that can really narrow the setup down are non VT already.
I'm actually tempted to go through EVERY SINGLE COMBINATION (3-3, 3-2-1, 2-2-2, 2-2-1-1) to try and PoE this shit.
It's more fun to me that scum hunting tbh
No, I don't like the speculating on the town roles. Scum might be able to figure out who PRs are by what players seem to know more about about what is actually in the game. Thinking though, it probably doesn't make you scum.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #4) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:22 pm

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What are you hoping to get out of the speculation?
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Post Post #83 (isolation #5) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:38 pm

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In post 73, Vorkuta wrote:HOWEVER, I want to know that if we get to the point when we have a play like "vig xxx or cop yyyy" we can actually pull it off.
I don't know what you mean here.
In post 80, Vorkuta wrote:+
There's a zombie in play. We can't get rid of it by lynching it, and if we have absolutely no tools to get rid of them it would be optimal to enter LyLo ASAP
What? Like purposely lynching town? Why would we do that?
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Post Post #84 (isolation #6) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:39 pm

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In post 82, Vorkuta wrote: At the very least, this setup speculation will ""inspire"" several players, or inform them of what's possible and what's unlikely.
I guess
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Post Post #147 (isolation #7) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:31 pm

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In post 125, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 83, tris wrote:I don't know what you mean here.
It's pretty clear he means something along the lines of directing night actions.
Why are you being so bad at the game? I don't think you're as bad as you look.
I understand that much, I just don't get the link between speculating about the possible set ups now, and people following directions later.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #8) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:35 pm

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In post 140, Unstuck in Time wrote:
In post 130, Beta Sapphire wrote:I feel like the concern about the speed of the wagon on vorkuta is fake considering it was just an rvs wagon. And I don’t like how you’re just shading an entire wagon without saying who you didn’t like on it.

VOTE: unstuck in time

-still o
this post isn't genuine but I'll bite.

Vorkuta being on the Vorkuta wagon is indeed incredibly scum-AI, but I can't help but feel Vorkuta is leanscum at worst. Considering a zombie/delayed lynchproof exists this might be feasibly interpreted as a
scumclaim
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PenguinPower's vote is a basic RVS vote, it is NAI to the power of 1.

NaCl's RVS/RQS combo vote on Vorkuta is probably towny.

It's pretty obvious I don't like ben on the Vorkuta wagon for the vote-waffling.

RCE's vote is L-2 but a basic RVS vote... I can't give anything beyond an incredibly miniscule scum dot worth like 1/1000 scum points



TL
Weren't you townreading Vorkuta earlier?

Oh! oops! VOTE: 60 was supposed to be a vote for VOTE: Unstuck in Time! I would like you to answer my question.
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Post Post #149 (isolation #9) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:36 pm

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I mean :facepalm:
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Post Post #413 (isolation #10) » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:09 pm

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I have some catching up to do, but i'm going to bed right now.
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Post Post #547 (isolation #11) » Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:33 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #549 (isolation #12) » Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:34 pm

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hi
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Post Post #555 (isolation #13) » Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:36 pm

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In post 552, Beta Sapphire wrote:Hi tris

Who’s scum?

-M
Don't know yet. I'm gonna read some ISOs.

I do think Hoptic, Gamma, nbEE, and PP (the real one) are town.
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Post Post #559 (isolation #14) » Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:46 pm

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In post 556, NaCl wrote: Okay, I think Vorkuta's town.
What's town about that?
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Post Post #572 (isolation #15) » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:51 pm

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Do you have any reads yet?
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Post Post #602 (isolation #16) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:36 am

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In post 598, NaCl wrote: 9. tris - Scumread. Because she's just throwing reads out there without much explanation on it. Also, her townreads seem a bit off to me, I'm not sure why Norwegian is in there.
@Tris, do you plan on explaining anything about why you think things?
It felt like Hoptic was really trying to figure things out in their posts

Same is true for Gamma. In particular, his suspicion of Hoptic felt genuine.

from norwegian felt like it could be town, but I'm taking this townread back until he divulges some reads.

For PP, I'm cheating a bit off others, and he does have a way about him that I just want to townread.
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Post Post #630 (isolation #17) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:15 am

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In post 140, Unstuck in Time wrote:
In post 130, Beta Sapphire wrote:I feel like the concern about the speed of the wagon on vorkuta is fake considering it was just an rvs wagon. And I don’t like how you’re just shading an entire wagon without saying who you didn’t like on it.

VOTE: unstuck in time

-still o
this post isn't genuine but I'll bite.
Why isn't that post genuine?
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Post Post #647 (isolation #18) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:25 am

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In post 643, Vorkuta wrote: tris should ask fewer questions and give more answers. prolly playstyle and NAI, but I'm not a fan.
I'm currently looking through ISOs, but do you have anything specific you'd like to ask me about right now?
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Post Post #649 (isolation #19) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:28 am

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I just posted a post about those townreads.
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Post Post #689 (isolation #20) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:09 am

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In post 651, Platinum Phoenix wrote:
In post 650, chennisden wrote:so you're only really TRing gamma for hoptic
Not only.
Vorkuta wrote:
In post 647, tris wrote:I'm currently looking through ISOs, but do you have anything specific you'd like to ask me about right now?
-PP vs PP: TvT or TvS? Or SvS manufactured drama?
On PP's end, I do get a slight sense that he could be playing up the "I don't care about this really". Like he's intentional trying to make a big deal about how much he doesn't care. However, this does all seem like the Penguin I've seen. What is scum-PP like?

For PP, he seems to have gone a little overboard with his pushing on Penguin there. Especially with pushing on Penguin for not putting enough effort in on day 1 when he's played with Penguin before.

It's possible it's manufactured.
-Lurker slots: Ben & CJ: policy or wait and pray?
Wait. They might just be replaced.
-2 words about the setup so I can relax knowing that you acknowledge and more or less understand what shithole we're in PR-wise
Why are we in a shithole? I don't see the Zombie as being a huge problem.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #21) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:10 am

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I think Vorkuta is town.
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Post Post #742 (isolation #22) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:17 am

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In post 737, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 736, benhalkum wrote:I have nothing more productive to add other than continuing to rehash basic game logic we're all aware of
Self-awareness. town points

So enough about mafia theory-crafting and optimal D1 play discussion and all that good stuff.
Can we get a few reads or comments on interactions on the players so far?
I agree.
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Post Post #743 (isolation #23) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:20 am

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I would also like a vote count before I make a vote. I might vote for Phoenix here.
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Post Post #883 (isolation #24) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:30 am

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In post 864, PenguinPower wrote:I think I quite like Unstuck.
Agreed
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Post Post #899 (isolation #25) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:58 am

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@ofrhz, do you agree with your partner about Vorkuta + RCE?
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Post Post #906 (isolation #26) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:25 pm

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In post 904, Hoptic wrote:I assume Asgard is Norwegian. Otherwise I may not townread Asgard.

-Hop
What do you like about Asgard?
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Post Post #924 (isolation #27) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:49 pm

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do you not want to try me anymore?
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Post Post #933 (isolation #28) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:20 pm

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why would him being blind lead you to townread him?
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Post Post #936 (isolation #29) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:22 pm

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that's at salt

Pedit: and there's an answer
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Post Post #938 (isolation #30) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:29 pm

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@Salt why would you say you been focusing?
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Post Post #941 (isolation #31) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:34 pm

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yeah that's what i meant
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Post Post #945 (isolation #32) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:27 pm

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oh you were one of the designers
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #33) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:24 am

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In post 1017, Vorkuta wrote:S_S feels town based on ^ insights. The way he did it doesn't seem to come from scum who's complaining or bragging, but from town who's interested in everyone being informed and yeah.
NAI at worst
I'd say NAI at best too. What's town indicative about it? scum is motivated to appear helpful as well. Being scum doesn't suddenly turn you into someone who is going to complain or brag.
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Post Post #1024 (isolation #34) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:44 am

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In post 1022, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@tris
Can you post your current reads? My impression is that you are like the most inconspicuous player here. Nothing sticks out of the ordinary. And i kinda wish it did.
Unstuck in Time
Vorkuta
PenguinPower
Hoptic
Gamma Emerald
you as well

are some townreads. There's some people I need to take a look at more.

Maybe Salt goes on that list.
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #35) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:46 am

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@ofrhz, what pushes me into the slightly town area on your list?
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Post Post #1076 (isolation #36) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:22 pm

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In post 1053, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1024, tris wrote:
In post 1022, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@tris
Can you post your current reads? My impression is that you are like the most inconspicuous player here. Nothing sticks out of the ordinary. And i kinda wish it did.
Unstuck in Time
Vorkuta
PenguinPower
Hoptic
Gamma Emerald
you as well

are some townreads. There's some people I need to take a look at more.

Maybe Salt goes on that list.
If you had to guess the scumteam now who would it be
Let's say: S_S, RCE, and fakePP. but I do need to look at the second two's ISOs

VOTE: Something_Smart
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #37) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:27 pm

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i might be townreading wrong
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #38) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:50 pm

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only one of them is really a scumread
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Post Post #1083 (isolation #39) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:42 am

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why is that?
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Post Post #1085 (isolation #40) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:07 am

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I don't know. sorry.

I'll figure that out or change my mind when you post more.
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Post Post #1088 (isolation #41) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:17 am

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In post 1087, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1085, tris wrote:I don't know. sorry.

I'll figure that out or change my mind when you post more.
So it's a gut read?
yeah

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Post Post #1137 (isolation #42) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:13 pm

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In post 1118, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1085, tris wrote:I don't know. sorry.

I'll figure that out or change my mind when you post more.
lol nice. I'm the one who needs to back up my read? I think burden of proof is on you here.
It's not about burden of proof. I was just wondering if you have any reasons to townread him because those could be reasons I should townread him.

Same goes for the others. Why should Something_Smart be townread?

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I'm going to actually look at some ISOs I've been meaning to in the morning. Stay tuned for that.
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Post Post #1157 (isolation #43) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:45 am

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So, you think Vorkuta could be busing here?
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #44) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:29 am

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@Phoenix, why did you unvote, and why haven't you revoted? Do you not scumread Gamma anymore?
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #45) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:30 am

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I wish there was a way to ISO one head of a hydra
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Post Post #1185 (isolation #46) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:12 pm

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In post 1166, Vorkuta wrote:but the... 'randomness' of her questions isn't something I like.
I get that a lot.
In post 1174, Vorkuta wrote:hey [tris], come vote [NaCl] with me
Okay!

VOTE: NaCl
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Post Post #1206 (isolation #47) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:51 am

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In post 1205, benhalkum wrote: As for anything relevant to add, I still don't have anything concrete.
You don't have to be confident. Do you have any gut feelings about anyone?
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Post Post #1209 (isolation #48) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:04 am

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In post 1207, benhalkum wrote:while RCEnigma I have nothing other than his post seem to be more along the side of deflection.
What's an example of this?
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Post Post #1237 (isolation #49) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:48 pm

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The only way Norway is scum is if Phoenix is scum and that was planned. I also actually think NaCl is town, so UNVOTE: . I'm not really sure where to go now. I'll figure it out tomorrow.
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Post Post #1248 (isolation #50) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:30 am

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In post 1238, Vorkuta wrote:>Not being paranoid enough to believe that this could be completely manufactured and staged for our entertainment *smh*
I did actually consider the possibility it's s/s. Or is this trying to be sarcastic in some way?
In post 1241, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1237, tris wrote:The only way Norway is scum is if Phoenix is scum and that was planned. I also actually think NaCl is town, so UNVOTE: . I'm not really sure where to go now. I'll figure it out tomorrow.
I think if Phoenix is scum that's not S/S, that's scum trying to get into the head of a townie (which Fake-PP said others were doing to Asgard, interestingly)
That's also a possibility. Maybe the more likely one. My point was that if f!PP is town, I don't see Asgard as possibly being scum.
In post 1245, benhalkum wrote:VOTE: Platinum Phoenix

His back and forward with Nor was enough to make me feel ok with voting for him. At this point, I'm thinking both are scum and all of that was to try and get us to not be comfortable voting.
Why didn't you want to keep talking to me after ?
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Post Post #1251 (isolation #51) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:59 am

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hi
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Post Post #1254 (isolation #52) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:03 am

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Yes, very. I tend to be different in mini games vs micro games I think.

Pedit: @SS
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #53) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:09 am

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What Norway was saying there seemed really genuine unless it was an interaction they planned for.
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #54) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:25 am

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I guess I shouldn't say couldn't be. That's probably to strong.

It's not because he changed his mind. The way his thoughts change over the course of the conversation seem to be natural.
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Post Post #1259 (isolation #55) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:26 am

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In post 1215, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Beta Sapphire ... give
me scummy vibes with their tone of voice and language.
Which head? Or both?
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Post Post #1276 (isolation #56) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:39 pm

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In post 1275, NaCl wrote: @Tris, do you think that the Norwegian & Fake-PP interaction could be town/town? If so, why do you think it couldn't be one where Norwegian is scum and Fake-PP is town?
Didn't I just answer this?
In post 1271, Platinum Phoenix wrote:RCE you're not my biggest scumread right now.

ben's recent posting has been kind of atrocious
Are you going to vote for him? Or anyone?
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Post Post #1282 (isolation #57) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:09 pm

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In post 1278, Platinum Phoenix wrote:
In post 1276, tris wrote:
In post 1275, NaCl wrote: @Tris, do you think that the Norwegian & Fake-PP interaction could be town/town? If so, why do you think it couldn't be one where Norwegian is scum and Fake-PP is town?
Didn't I just answer this?
In post 1271, Platinum Phoenix wrote:RCE you're not my biggest scumread right now.

ben's recent posting has been kind of atrocious
Are you going to vote for him? Or anyone?
tris the way you want me to vote so you can evaluate your options feels scummy
Why haven't you pushed a counterwagon yet?
NaCl wrote:@Tris
Oh, yeah, didn't exactly think that through clearly enough. What I was specifically meaning was "If Fake-PP is town, why does Norwegian's interaction depend on his alignment? Couldn't the interaction have gone the same way regardless of if it was Town-Fake-PP and Scum-Norwegian as if it was Town-Fake-PP and Town-Norwegian?"
Because I think Norwegian is town unless they're both in on it.
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Post Post #1315 (isolation #58) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:18 pm

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VOTE: Platinum Pheonix
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #59) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:17 am

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The reason I'm voting for fake-PP is that it feels to me like they were just waiting for their wagon to disintegrate because "there's no counterwagon so they must be town!"
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Post Post #1338 (isolation #60) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:41 am

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um
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Post Post #1341 (isolation #61) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:52 am

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In post 1339, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1336, tris wrote:The reason I'm voting for fake-PP is that it feels to me like they were just waiting for their wagon to disintegrate because "there's no counterwagon so they must be town!"
I really would not describe Platinum's current behavior as "waiting for" anything.
I don't mean that as waiting and not doing anything. I meant that as in he expects that to happen
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Post Post #1343 (isolation #62) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:58 am

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he might, but here i think he was avoiding pushing a counterwagon (or having a partner do so) so as to let his wagon disolve
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Post Post #1346 (isolation #63) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:02 am

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lol
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Post Post #1347 (isolation #64) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:04 am

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so why did you make that vote?
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Post Post #1352 (isolation #65) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:55 am

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what's bad about it?
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Post Post #1353 (isolation #66) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:58 am

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In post 1350, NorwegianboyEE wrote:We can’t just focus on one guy, need alternatives to spur discussion.
VOTE: Tris
Why do you need to say this? Don't you townread fake-PP. insn't that enough for you not to vote him?
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Post Post #1355 (isolation #67) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:04 am

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when there's no counterwagons, people decide he can't be scum because otherwise there's be a counterwagon. and in the meantime he's doing things that appear towny, but in my opinion are not actually town indicative. i think he's just keeping up appearances
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Post Post #1359 (isolation #68) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:34 am

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In post 1357, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1355, tris wrote:he's doing things that appear towny, but in my opinion are not actually town indicative.
Uhhhhh this sounds like a contradiction.

Appear towny to whom?
idk. not anyone specifically. things that some people might find town, but that scum could do easily. Why is that a contradiction? people read things incorrectly
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #69) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:23 am

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well, i'm off. I won't be around for deadline.
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #70) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:42 am

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sorry, i still think it's fake-PP
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Post Post #2085 (isolation #71) » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:56 am

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So, I can post here?
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