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Hey infer, talk to me about P006Show"Getting lost in the details of nothing..."
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Obviously all old bills are grandfathered in and lack the time limit. Players with more than one current proposal are also grandfathered in.
This proposal is designed to make the game easier to follow and prevent us from compiling dozens of bills that nobody particularly cares about. I think 4 days is plenty of time for most people to see a bill and vote- but I could be persuaded to slightly increase it if necessary.- Formerfish
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006- why nays?
007- is the office of executive explained anywhere?
008- There is some vague wording I would like to shore up, who would a player capable of making a motion be?
009- NMSA why nay?
VOTE: Aye P010
VOTE: Nay P011 I dont like the unlimited motion clause tacked on at the end
012- someone eli5 me?
015- do we not like this because someone could propose something and then have the group change it and they could pull it anytime they wanted?
016- whyd this fall flat?
017- is this a basic proxy vote allowance?
018- why is this one gaining traction when 015 is trending no?
019- is outside communication allowed in this game? I wondered reading this one how a coalition could start when it would have to be out in the open as it was starting.
020- is there going to be any oversight into these coalitions and their rules?
VOTE: Aye P021
VOTE: Aye P022
VOTE: Aye P023
VOTE: Aye P024
025- why not just limit the words allowed to 3 to account for agreement, disagreement, and abstain. Are we worried about people just not doing anything?
026- not sure what this one is aboutShow"Getting lost in the details of nothing..."
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do you require a second?In post 151, Aronis wrote:
Obviously all old bills are grandfathered in and lack the time limit. Players with more than one current proposal are also grandfathered in.
This proposal is designed to make the game easier to follow and prevent us from compiling dozens of bills that nobody particularly cares about. I think 4 days is plenty of time for most people to see a bill and vote- but I could be persuaded to slightly increase it if necessary.Show"Getting lost in the details of nothing..."
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+1In post 123, skitter30 wrote:
@aronis i'm not sure i like this part of your currency propositionIn post 106, Aronis wrote:Other positions may be added to aid the Chair at their discretion.
This is abig improvement, but it's still not quite what I'm looking for.ShowTown: 6-5
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VOTE: P027: No
VOTE: P028: No
VOTE: P029: Yea
VOTE: P030: No
VOTE: P031: YeaShowTown: 6-5
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P032: Any action not prohibited is permitted, unless it relates to official matters in the rules, in which case it is prohibited if not permitted.ShowTown: 6-5
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I want to be able to use heal and hurt tagsIn post 144, Inferno390 wrote:P029:
Amend R206:
Votes for proposals should be done using the vote tags and include "Yea" or "Nay" and include the proposal number. A player can also abstain from voting; their vote will not be counted among the number of active votes. To abstain from voting on a given proposal, a player must type Vote: Abstain (proposal number) in the thread.ShowHiatus once more.
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HEAL: p031
HURT: p032ShowHiatus once more.
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This is what P025 is for.In post 157, skitter30 wrote:
I want to be able to use heal and hurt tagsIn post 144, Inferno390 wrote:P029:
Amend R206:
Votes for proposals should be done using the vote tags and include "Yea" or "Nay" and include the proposal number. A player can also abstain from voting; their vote will not be counted among the number of active votes. To abstain from voting on a given proposal, a player must type Vote: Abstain (proposal number) in the thread.
I might vote yea on P031 if the number of proposals was upped. I think two would be slightly better with a group of 7 people. If more people come later and we want to amend it, we can. Not sure I'm comfortable with a time limit though."Do I have permission to....refute some of the bs that Inferno just spewed out?"--TywinL
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@Former:
P006: I'm like 99% sure this is redundant given the rules.
P007: No it is not.
P008: A player can only make a motion should a rule say they can. So right now, there are no motions you can make, but in the future, we can add rules that allow player to make motions.
P012: This one goes hand in hand with P011. Basically, you can motion to do as much as you want on your turn, but if the motion does not pass, you have to cut down the actions in your turn so it follows the given rules.
P015: Not really sure.
P016: There are some issure in the rules with value and inflation, and like I said, I'm not for any new mechanics right now.
P017: Kind of? Basically you can let someone else vote for you.
P018: I think because people don't like the idea of specifically retracting proposals. This one just defines how a proposal can be changed by it's creator and gives a helpful definition.
P019: It is not explicitly against the rules as of yet.
P020: Probably not?
P025: I want to make sure words other than Yea or Nay are legal for processing votes. Right now we're counting them as such, but since it's not explicitly specified in the rules, it could raise some hairline issues later on.
P026 is supposed to read "amend R301." An error due to a wiki update."Do I have permission to....refute some of the bs that Inferno just spewed out?"--TywinL
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If you'd vote yes it'd pass and that'd be really excitingIn post 153, Formerfish wrote:
do you require a second?In post 151, Aronis wrote:
Obviously all old bills are grandfathered in and lack the time limit. Players with more than one current proposal are also grandfathered in.
This proposal is designed to make the game easier to follow and prevent us from compiling dozens of bills that nobody particularly cares about. I think 4 days is plenty of time for most people to see a bill and vote- but I could be persuaded to slightly increase it if necessary.- Charles510
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VOTE: Aye P031Show"Getting lost in the details of nothing..."
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In post 152, Formerfish wrote:006- why nays?
007- is the office of executive explained anywhere?
008- There is some vague wording I would like to shore up, who would a player capable of making a motion be?
009- NMSA why nay?
VOTE: Aye P010
VOTE: Nay P011 I dont like the unlimited motion clause tacked on at the end
012- someone eli5 me?
015- do we not like this because someone could propose something and then have the group change it and they could pull it anytime they wanted?
016- whyd this fall flat?
017- is this a basic proxy vote allowance?
018- why is this one gaining traction when 015 is trending no?
019- is outside communication allowed in this game? I wondered reading this one how a coalition could start when it would have to be out in the open as it was starting.
020- is there going to be any oversight into these coalitions and their rules?
VOTE: Aye P021
VOTE: Aye P022
VOTE: Aye P023
VOTE: Aye P024
025- why not just limit the words allowed to 3 to account for agreement, disagreement, and abstain. Are we worried about people just not doing anything?
026- not sure what this one is about
VOTE: 06- Nay redundant
VOTE: 07- Nay I would want at least a rough sketch of what this entails
VOTE: 08- Aye
VOTE: 12- Aye
VOTE: 17- Aye
VOTE: 18- Aye
VOTE: 19- Nay I think we need to figure out what we are before we let people start to make factions
VOTE: 20- Nay
25- why do we want to broaden the words we use and not limit them for sake of ease?Show"Getting lost in the details of nothing..."
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P006 is not redundant, a supermajority is not the same as an absolute majority. One is 2/3, one is 1/2.ShowTown: 6-5
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VOTE: N P006 - no significance
VOTE: N P007 - too vague
VOTE: N P009 - i feel like my bill addresses the backlog issues better and it already got passed
VOTE: N P011 - see above
VOTE: N P015 - pretty sure i didn't propose this, but either way it can die
VOTE: N P019 - too vague, lacks safeguards that I mentioned earlier, I really just want this old stuff to die so the wiki is cleaner
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I'm going to try to update the wiki- I'll put a log of everything I do here in spoilers so if needed, it can be changed back pretty easily
updated through P020- I'll try to finish the 20s/30s soon
Spoiler: Defeated
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P031 also passed with five votes in favor (Aronis, Formerfish, Charles510, skitter30, NotMySpamAccount) - I made it rule 311 and I'm pretty sure the wiki is up to date now- skitter30
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Thanks
Also aronis, your currency propsal needs a better definition for what a game moderator isShowHiatus once more.
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How did P012 pass without P010?
Will someone double check that work?"Do I have permission to....refute some of the bs that Inferno just spewed out?"--TywinL
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I’m sorry, P011, not P010
Also I made P015, and a I was voting yea on it"Do I have permission to....refute some of the bs that Inferno just spewed out?"--TywinL
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