Dance of the Title Thread: Resurgence in wild?

[Pine]

And where's my damn Camn vs Pine trophy. Reigning champ, here.

[Pine]

And where's my damn Camn vs Pine trophy. Reigning champ, here.

im salty I lost to you and want my revenge

Shall we target September? If Camn doesn't show, you can be the IC treestump. Need to find a mod.

[Pine]

You just want to say nom a lot.

Don't rush titles. It was years before you and I got titled, Ari, but they were really good ones relevant to experiences that defined our presence on MafiaScum.

[Pine]

That’s hilarious

[Pine]

nominate katyusha for

creative commons

.

• creative: self-evident. in particular id be thinking of saskeismyyaoikismesis and other fun things she tends to do. also we've been playing minecraft lately and she keeps going to creative mode to get a bunch of extra dirt blocks and whatever (i include this more as an Own than as a thing to consider obviously.)
  
• commons: Communism incidentally the title probably shouldnt be capitalized
  
• creative commons: she uses stock photos to make telephone pictionary drawings. also just sounds nice. u know how it is

thanks for your consideration i perhaps should have asked somebody else to post this so that i don't have to ego but whatever.

since when does commons mean communism.

anti nom

Firewrecked

[Pine]

Niche fandom doesn't make a reference bad

Inaccessibility does

[Pine]

The misspelling makes that post hilarious to me.

Still, I think that Smooth Criminal seems like a better RC title than People Tried.

I concur.

[Pine]

The only change to RC's title I could get behind is "Surprisingly well-aimed loose cannon"

[Pine]

Hey chennis, if the title isn't a serious nom,

Don't nom it

[Pine]

Agree...there are several others with many alts, some of which are quite hidden.

I have never desired to be a listmod before this post

Also anti-nom any Nancy title. Asking for titles is strictly Uncool.

Titles are a gift, not a right. You don’t get one just by putting in time.

Earn it.

[Pine]

I’ve also never desired to have a super secret alt before now. Damn you Penguin...

[Pine]

Or

I'm your mason

Both because she embodies the emoji in site culture and because it eludes to the questionable nature of the claim.

+1, or "totally (not) your mason"

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I think Pine's title should be revisited and should totally be something about the fact that he is a scumstump in those Camn games because 1) he likes scum, 2) tree stump and Pine in my mind have good username connotations

I like that mastina one actually!

However, the whole point of

In Your Head

is the fact that he is good at scum manipulation. The Camn games are a perfect example of it, because he is the master manipulator of them! I don't think a treestump pun would do him justice. This title already encapsulates what you said rather elegantly.

I never thought I'd say it, but we don't need a pun here O.o

"In Your Head" was a direct result of the Revenge games...the third of which is currently in the works, with Alisae set to serve as the Town Treestump!

Also, I

loathe

puns. Wordplay is fine, but punning is perverse.

[Pine]

Mastina - “Probably not actually a Mason”

[Pine]

Maybe go for

Deepwolf?

instead?

[Pine]

this title seems very generic

Hence the suggestion of adding the ? to the end. It invokes the uncertainty and paranoia they’re referencing

[Pine]

nom saudade for

Stay Positive, Friends

Seconded

.

Anti-nom

[Pine]

aren't we all

Apples and oranges

[Pine]

Also I immediately betrayed him. If you deal with the devil, expect him not to play by the rules.

+1 to title

[Pine]

Nominate Cyrus62 for

Dealt with the Devil

for this

Long story short, a bunch of alternate wincons were present in this game. Cyrus was mafia and had to hammer his teammate or otherwise get an item that his teammate was holding. Two other town players (Pine and PenguinPower) had this same wincon. Cyrus made a deal with Pine and PP by outting his teammate with the item so that Cyrus could hammer the teammate and get the item to satisfy his alt wincondition. Much chaos ensued, but Cyrus was hung, followed by the outted teammate, which had the domino effect of causing the last mafia to concede. All because he made a little deal with the devil.

Pine is the devil because he is

devilishy good looking

good at scum.

But he was scum, and scum is the devil.

Are you suggesting I am less capable a deceiver and manipulator than the Prince of Lies?

[Pine]

aren't we all

Apples and oranges

nice catchphrase

Aren’t they all

[Pine]

Yeah that’s fair

[Pine]

Several titles are based off 1 time things. When something is iconic, it is iconic.

everyone else is just completely chill that there was a talking turkey in here for a second?

No one's said anything about the talking tree, sooooooo...

[Pine]

Second Pint-Sized Powerhouse

[Pine]

Funhouse also acceptable, but less appealing

Pink Ball as a player sneaks up on you. He’s low-key and likeable, and as such can come out of nowhere with good plays and insightful calls

Pint-sized powerhouse fits

[Pine]

Antinom Jingle title. I agree that he’s excellent and deserving, but I do not find that to be at all related to why I hold Jingle in high regard.

A Jingle title would make reference to his likability, creativity and consistency as a mod, and skill as a reviewer

[Pine]

For whom the bell trolls is ALMOST a case of “The perfect is the enemy of the good”

Except it’s more like “the barely-adequate is the enemy of the good enough”

[Pine]

Too on the nose

[Pine]

^Also this

[Pine]

Nom Elbirn for content aficionado since it appears to be a form of meme police he actually likes and you monsters wouldn’t vote to let him keep it. Shame on you.

But then the meme police not being elbirn title won’t be a meme anymore

Yeah, but we’ll always know that this one is a sly reference to the title which was not to be

[Pine]

Well, yeah

[Pine]

Just give Elbirn Meme Police already ffs

[Pine]

I prefer

Busboy Revolutionary

for Formerfish

[Pine]

This is by far the most extreme example

Without any prompting or much background, Fish spun an elaborate, detailed, and lengthy story about an absurd subject, just for the sheer giggles of it. I don’t think he even anticipated having an appreciative audience, this was just spontaneous tall tale telling at its finest. I mean...it was so unexpected, yet thoroughly charming that it deserves commemoration

And what are MS titles for, if not for that? They need not be immediately accessible, but they ought to encapsulate a defining moment or trait

This was a moment of brilliance, and I doff my cap to it

[Pine]

Nominate Elbirn for

Stuck in Committee

, in reference to the year+ long effort to find a good phrasing for titling we all want him to have.

This is a serious nom.

[Pine]

Stuck in Development Hell would also be good, if not as much so imo

[Pine]

4th

[Pine]

nth

nth

nth

Which ones?

[Pine]

oh I was trying to nth creative commons sorry

Thank God!

Antinom busboy revolutionary

It can’t just be some random quote from a single game. FF waxed poetically on the wonders of Family Feud in LNT, should we nom him for that too?

It can, actually. I think you’re confusing quality and context for...I don’t know, possessiveness?

[Pine]

Revolting has a strong negative connotation

[Pine]

I don’t hate it, but there’s nothing wrong with titles commemorating a single significant event. Not all titles need be all-encompassing.

[Pine]

I mean, look at Ari’s title. It’s in recognition of a single chain of events. Granted, those events spanned months, but his title has nothing to do with his style, gameplay, etc.

[Pine]

Besides, if Formerfish outgrows the title, we give him a new one. Creature outgrew ‘Transparent,’ and we responded

[Pine]

Now that I think about it, is it really ok to make titles based on Speakeasy posts if we’re not supposed to talk about them outside the SE?

Yes

[Pine]

I mean, look at Ari’s title. It’s in recognition of a single chain of events. Granted, those events spanned months, but his title has nothing to do with his style, gameplay, etc.

...yeah can I get what happened there please

It’s related to posts in the Speakeasy.

PM me info pls

Please don't do this.

Seconded. Join Speakeasy or don’t.

[Pine]

I will re-issue

Busboy Revolutionary

as the most balanced of all suggested options.

[Pine]

Nah. It was given to me after the first Camn vs Pine game, but references a number of events including the one Jingle mentioned

[Pine]

Subject: There Will Be Bloodshed (Game Over)

I'm still working on the wall. But a tl;dr of what the wall will be?

I'm so convinced Pine is town, that I swear,

if Pine is scum,

I will retire from Mafia

forever

under the name of Mastin--that's right; I'm so confident that if I am wrong,

I will NEVER make another post, not in a game, not even in MD, completely abandoning the site for an eternity

. I'm dead-serious.
Who here is that sure Pine is scum?
'Cause I'm that sure, THAT confident, that Pine is town. And will write the Wall to prove it, too.

I was scum.

Good times!

[Pine]

I like

For My Next Guest

[Pine]

With or without ellipses

[Pine]

I will re-issue

Busboy Revolutionary

as the most balanced of all suggested options.

nth

This seems to be the most popular option and is one which I agree with the appeal of.

Giving this the

48 hours

treatment:
(expired on 2019-09-26 19:04:07).

[Pine]

Nominate

mastina

for

The Second Second Coming

This references her twofold resurrection/reinvention, her title as mastin2, as well as her delightfully messianic playstyle.

If you bastards won’t play ball in the democratic title event, I’ll take it here.

[Pine]

nth Pink Ball

[Pine]

Too generic. Maybe “All His Fault”

[Pine]

You’re trying too hard.

Nom Dannflor for

All His Fault

officially

[Pine]

I’m not a fan. If anything, it conflicts with my image of Dann as a clean, tidy player, not prone to messy mistakes.

[Pine]

Dirty Dancefloor

[Pine]

Dirty Dann is 0/10

Oh be fair. It’s at least 2/10

[Pine]

Nominate

RadiantCowbells

for a return to

Smooth Criminal

Nominate

Dannflor

for

DannWolf

Nominate

PenguinPower

for

GIFsmith

[Pine]

Dude

Have you ever played a game with PP?

[Pine]

Challenge?

Spoiler:

i cant wait til you can talk again.

apply for fruit

bargain for fruit without Ali's approval, but everyone seems to be shitting all over that so it can't uniquely be scum doing it.

your shitty posting record in this game

I'd love to know your reasoning behind coming off Mastina to go to chenny

[Pine]

Reported

[Pine]

Yeah I don’t like DannWolf anymore. SK’s right, it’s lowest common denominator. I’d rather wait for a good title.

Like GIFsmith for Penguin

[Pine]

.PENG is a good one

GIFted is too

[Pine]

i won't speak out against wolf pup but i wash my hands of the title

i just don't want to keep dann from getting a title - he obviously deserves one- and i can't think of a better one at the moment

also wolf pup isn't that bad

but i still dissolve myself of all responsibility

See, this should be an anti-nom.

“Because they should have a title” is a shitty reason to give a bad title.

Wolf pup is dumb, contrived, and unnecessarily cutesy. I’m hardly innocent in suggesting bad titles (DannWolf is cringeworthy in retrospect) but scraping the bottom of the barrel because we like him is just as bad.

Come on. We can do better, or we can wait and watch until another inspiration strikes us

Antinom wolf pup

[Pine]

wolf pup is meh across the board but apparently we cant agree on a better one so

Ditto for this. This is an antinom without balls (sorry vonflare)

[Pine]

i won't speak out against wolf pup but i wash my hands of the title

i just don't want to keep dann from getting a title - he obviously deserves one- and i can't think of a better one at the moment

also wolf pup isn't that bad

but i still dissolve myself of all responsibility

See, this should be an anti-nom.

“Because they should have a title” is a shitty reason to give a bad title.

Wolf pup is dumb, contrived, and unnecessarily cutesy. I’m hardly innocent in suggesting bad titles (DannWolf is cringeworthy in retrospect) but scraping the bottom of the barrel because we like him is just as bad.

Come on. We can do better, or we can wait and watch until another inspiration strikes us

Antinom wolf pup

No it’s not, just because you are ignorant of the context doesn’t make it a bad title. Anyone who has played multiple games with Dann would vehemently disagree with you here.

Antinom Pine’s antinom

I have played several games with Dann. For Pete's sake, the whole CONTEXT of the title discussion about Dann as a deepwolf was sparked when I drafted him FIRST in Ali vs Pine *specifically* for his talent as a deepwolf.

The title is bad. Making unresearched ad hominem attacks on me doesn't strengthen your side, and it's a key reason a lot of people don't like you very much.

[Pine]

I'm of the "we want to title a user so bad we are compromising one title that isnt good enough" camp.

We shouldn't do that. He deserves a title, and hell earn *his* title when someone comes up with it. Until then, I think we should hold off and not push through a *meh* title because he deserves a title.

Exactly. Dann is dynamic and talented - he will not want for title-worthy anecdotes.

Nom Pops for Particular

I think this is probably the most accurate title I could think of for Pops. But maybe it’s becaise I have a lot of recent history with her. Whenever I read a Pops post she seems very particular. It isn’t a bad thing and I Hope Pops doesn’t take any of my suggestions as digs because they aren’t imo. Pops knows what she likes and isn’t afraid to tell people they don’t meet that standard.

If you can’t have Tiara, take the next best thing yknow

I don't hate this, but I feel like it could use polishing.

[Pine]

Nom Dann for

Sheep In Deepwolf's Clothing

I think this captures the meme of "Dann always being accused of being a deepwolf" better, captures the cute-n-cuddly "I don't want to lynch Dann, even though he might akshually be scum" vibe I get from his scumplay, and captures the fact that he's basically the sacrificial lamb for which we blame all of the issues with AliPine. (DANNFLOR, WHY HAVE YOU BETRAYED ME?)

I approve. It has the depth that the others lacked.

nth

[Pine]

This is too far outside the actual reason for Dann’s Title. People call him a Deepwolf because they are paranoid. It just turns out he won a game because he was a Deepwolf. He’s like Schrodinger’s Deepwolf.

I noticed this, looking back, but I don't think we ever discussed Schrodinger's Deepwolf. And I think it at least merits discussion.

nth Is this a deepwolf?

nth Deepwolf?

I'm torn between this title and Deepwolf? to be honest. I like the first one better imo.

pedit: I agree that

Schrödinger's Deepwolf

merits discussion.

I can get behind Schrödinger's Deepwolf.

nth

The umlaut is required, however.

[Pine]

uh what if it's just Schrodinger's Wolf? I feel like the "Schrodinger" already conveys the ambiguity about dann's scumplay that "deep" is doing. So "deep" might be redundant and obscuring ok wordplay.

(And is dann a physics guy or is that just what came to mind?)

I concur

[Pine]

Schrödinger’s Deepwolf is best, I think, but why not just offer him his choice of the ones that have survived this long? I’d like to hear from Dann.

[Pine]

Wallpost Title Fairy: I endorse this product and/or service

[Pine]

nom Wooper for “the worst title”

[Pine]

Can I get smooth criminal back

Sure, I'll give it once I am home from work.
On that note, Dannflor will get Schrödinger's Deepwolf once I get home from work, too!

Woot

[Pine]

McMenno 'no title' is good in a tongue-in-cheek way

ick

does seem a bit rough for a title, maybe if it were de-italicized?

[Pine]

I've been a responsible adult for at least two years, Jingle.

[Pine]

My gut reaction to Valedictorian is positive, but can you elaborate?

[Pine]

it's rewarding negative behavior

^

It would set a really worrying precedent.

[Pine]

I initially didn’t like it, but the more I think about it, it fits Pops.

Can we adjust the grammar on it though?

Nom

Pops

for

Silver-tongued

[Pine]

Pops is especially good at jury management. She’s not always the best Town player, she’s not always the best scum player, but in a lot of the games I’ve played with her recently, she is hands down one of the most likeable, least suspicious players in the game regardless of her alignment. She’s brilliant at managing the conversation to benefit herself and her reads while not rubbing anyone the wrong way.

I admit, the silver tongue motif is low impact, but as I think about it more, it

works

for her.

[Pine]

“Jury management” isn’t just a Survivor term, though that did popularize it. In a Mafia game, everyone is effectively the jury at all times.

[Pine]

Nah. Let's wait until something more organic comes along.

[Pine]

[Pine]

I approve

[Pine]

no one reads a psyche post tho

Who?

[Pine]

That sounds vaguely salacious.

I approve, but will remind everyone that MafiaScum is NOT a dating site.

[Pine]

yes

[Pine]

Does RC put Framers in setups he mods, though?

God no, that role is terrible.

But he COULD.

Challenge accepted. 7 Cop/2 Framer Open Micro, go!

[Pine]

+1 Disorganized crime

[Pine]

Anti-nom the title in general. Sorry, while I delight in having a new nickname to needle him with, this isn't title material.

[Pine]

I never asked for a specific title though.
I even added some suggestions of titles for other users specifically so i wouldn’t anger the cranky boomers. But i suppose some people just have a compulsive need to complain about everything.

If you want to challenge the system you'll need to step on some toes Psyche.

This has nothing to do with generation, it has to do with site culture and tradition.

Titles on MafiaScum are gifts. They come from members of the community as a sign of respect and affection for long-standing and/or impactful members. We nominate people to commemorate memorable moments, honor excellent play, or reference distinctive personality traits.

Asking for a title isn't self-advocating, like asking for a raise. It's rude, akin to asking why you didn't a bigger birthday present. There are plenty of us, myself included, who waited years to be titled. It's worth the wait.

[Pine]

is this where we ask for titles

BANNED

[Pine]

Wait y this no ban

[Pine]

I banned your ban.

[Pine]

I like it

[Pine]

Jingle, by the power granted to me through the Power of Penguins, you are hereby bestowed the rank of Duke of Enderby Land with all powers, titles, and remuneration such a title carries.

May you do the penguins honor.

May I have Mac. Robertson Land?

[Pine]

For this insult, we shall have war. Prepare yourself.

[Pine]

News from the front lines of the North Pole vs South Pole War:

[Pine]

Titles on MafiaScum are gifts. They come from members of the community as a sign of respect and affection for long-standing and/or impactful members. We nominate people to commemorate memorable moments, honor excellent play, or reference distinctive personality traits.

Clearly, we lack all respect for you. </3

[Pine]

two people can have the same title

[Pine]

How about Mr. Commissioner? League Commissioner is more of a job title, kind of on the nose. Mr. Commissioner is a sign of deference.

My two bits. I don’t play fantasy leagues.

[Pine]

Btw on the note of Zaph; Zaphkael is one of the best writers on mafiascum, period. In all aspects of that term. It's obviously applicable to mafia games, but extends to writing outside of mafia, too. I might even be so bold as to suggest Zaphkael is THE best writer on mafiascum bar none, but I realize that might be a slightly more contentious statement, whereas there can be absolutely zero debate on Zaphkael being one of the best writers on mafiascum.

So, obviously, I would support a title there, but it needs more discussion and such before I approve anything.

I would not be opposed to fighting Zaph on this. Name the terms and I'm there.

[Pine]

I prefer

Shapeshifter

[Pine]

I yield to Alternatively

Best In Class is unremarkable at best

[Pine]

nth snark attack revert
nth ariel edited 449 times

I like both of these.

Anti-nom

Silver-tongued or a variant of it. It's not about schadd_, he's splendid. The problem is that it's too nonspecific and vanilla. We've shot down those exact same titles before and should continue to do so. Anything that would apply reasonably to 25%+ of the userbase is a bad title.

[Pine]

+1 I like it

[Pine]

+1