Micro 885: Crown on the Ground (Game Over)

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Post Post #0  (isolation #0)  » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:47 am

Micro 885: Crown on the Ground

Moderated by Oversoul
Reviewed by Micc


Players:
popsofctown
Dunnstral
Hectic
Egduf* Chemist1422
x maya* Aa
Correspondence* (secret hydra)
gameplay506
Lil Uzi Vert* RCEnigma
NotMySpamAccount* Doctor Drew


Spoiler: Still Playing
popsofctown
Hectic, Innocent Child, aligned with the Town
Correspondence (secret hydra)
gameplay506


Spoiler: Dead
Doctor Drew, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 1.
Aa, Seeking MasonInnocent Child, killed Night 1.
Dunnstral, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 2.
RCEnigma, 2-Shot Bodyguard, killed Night 2.
Chemist1422, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 3.


Events:
Day 1 ends.
Day 2 ends.
Day 3 ends.
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Post Post #1  (isolation #1)  » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:47 am

Rules taken from funkybike1Fundamental Rules
    0. The moderator is always right, except when he’s not. If you have a question, feel free to ask it in the thread (using @Mod or something similar), or more preferably, PM me directly.
    1. All site-wide rules apply.
    2. Rule violations may result in moderator actions of anything up to force-replacements, modkills, or, if egregious, game abandonment. Please play by the rules; otherwise you're wasting the time of everyone else involved with the game.
    3. Only post in this thread if you are in the game and alive. Posting meaningful content after you are dead may result in a posthumous modkill. One “Bah” post is okay, but it cannot contain game-related information.
    4. Modkilled players will be changed to a Neutral Survivor, and immediately end the day regardless of alignment. Modkilled players cannot win.
    5. Do not discuss ongoing games on this or another site unless that game explicitly allows outside communication. This includes games you are not in or dead. This includes referring to them vaguely as “an ongoing game” or “[redacted]”. This rule also applies to discussing this game outside this thread or any relevant private topics.
    6. Role PMs trump these rules if there is a conflict.
    7. Pretending to violate a rule, in such a manner that it is not immediately obvious to be false, counts the same as violating the rule.
    8. Be nice.
    9. Remember, this is a game. You're supposed to have fun.
General
    9. If you have a win condition you can achieve, you have to play to it.
    10. Personal meta arguments are allowed, but do not use trust tells, as this is implicitly not playing to your win condition in games you are scum-aligned.
    11. Do not quote any private communication with me or another moderator, including your role PM, without express permission. Paraphrasing is allowed. You may quote your own words from PMs that you sent, but you cannot include timestamps or proofs of authenticity.
    12. Do not use encryption, hidden text, or excessively small text. Breadcrumbing is allowed.
    13. Do not use provable randomness such as dice tags. I allow an exception for early Day 1 “RVS” votes, but you probably shouldn’t use it.
    14. Do not edit or delete your posts. If you accidentally double-post or mess up formatting on a post and you want it to be fixed, please notify me. I will only change formatting, not the content of the post.
    15. My color is Royal Gold (#FF8000). Do not use it or a similar color.
Voting
    16. Votes and unvotes should be in bold or VOTE: tags.
    17. Votes in quote or spoiler tags will not be counted.
    18. Pseudovotes are allowed, but will not be counted. Barring that, if it looks like a vote and I know who it’s for, it’s a vote. If I do not understand who it’s for, I will not count it.
    19. If you vote for someone not in the game, including myself, I will not count it. This is not a bastard game; the mod cannot be lynched.
    20. Unvotes are allowed but not necessary. Posting any vote or unvote automatically removes your previous vote.
The Game
    21. The objective of every faction is to be the only faction remaining, barring specific language saying otherwise in its role PMs.
    22. Lynches will occur once a majority is reached. If no majority is reached before deadline, the day ends in a No Lynch.
    23. Voting for No Lynch is allowed. No Lynch requires 50% of the votes.
    24. Once the threshold for a lynch or No Lynch is reached, the result is final and the game thread will be locked as we enter voting on The Crown.
    25. If no one is lynched and no role or factional kills are attempted for 3 complete Days and Nights, the onus will be placed on the living scum faction to kill. If and only if they have no kills, the Town will be informed of this and will have to lynch.
Deadlines and Activity
    26. Day 1 lasts 10 real-life days (240 hours.) All subsequent Days last 7 real-life days (168 hours.) This may be adjusted at moderator discretion.
    27. Nights last 48 hours, up to a maximum of 72 hours if there is a need for a replacement. If an action is sent late after Night ends, it will not be counted.
    28. You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. If you do not, you may be prodded and may be replaced if you do not post meaningful content within 24 hours after the prod. If you receive 3 prods during the game, you may be replaced immediately.
    29. If you are going to be temporarily away or V/LA, please post it in the thread or preferably PM me.
    30. If you have a Night action and you might be V/LA during the Night, you may submit the action during the preceding Day, including actions contingent on the Day’s lynch. This also applies to voting for The Crown.
Miscellany
    31. Play to win. Please request replacement if you no longer wish to participate in the game.
    32. Do not threaten to replace out of the game. If you need to be replaced, PM me.
    33. If a Night action is compulsive and no action is submitted, it will be performed on a pseudo-random target. The method by which the target will be selected will be outlined in your role PM; it may or may not be the same for all compulsive roles in the game.
    34. Please try to post with the correct account. Alt-slips must be quoted using the account that is in this game. Votes from players not on the official playerlist will not be counted.

Game-Specific Information and Role Interactions
    35. This game setup is 7 town to 2 Mafia.
    36. The Mafia, as well as any possible Masons or Neighbors, have daytalk.
    37. Upon a player's death, their role PM will be posted, with the identities of other players redacted.
    38. After a player has been lynched, the game will enter a 24 hour period where all living players will vote on who gets to wear The Crown. Voting is plurality based, which means it will go to the person with the most number of votes. Tie breakers will be determined by whose name comes first in the alphabet. You can message me a preliminary vote if you will not be around during the 24 hour period.
    39. The player who has been selected to wear The Crown, will gain access to a hidden ability immediately available for use that night. You will not know what your ability is until after you are selected. Due to the nature of this game, some players will never be able to access their hidden ability.


Spoiler: Sample Role PM
Welcome, friend! You are a Vanilla Townie!

Abilities:

    * Your voice

    * Your vote
Win Condition:

You win when all Mafia aligned players have been eliminated and there is at least one Town player alive, or if nothing can prevent the same.

The game thread is [url=xxx]here[/url].

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.
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Post Post #2  (isolation #2)  » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:47 am

Role PMs will be going out within the next two hours. All role PMs have been sent. Game will start once 7 players have confirmed they have received their role PM.

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Post Post #3  (isolation #3)  » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:14 pm

It is now Day 1!

Votecount 1.00Not Voting (9) - popsofctown, Dunnstral, Egduf, Hectic, Correspondence, x maya, Lil Uzi Vert, gameplay506, NotMySpamAccount

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-08-26 00:15:00).


Egduf has (expired on 2019-08-17 00:15:00) to confirm her role pm.

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Post Post #58  (isolation #4)  » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:23 pm

Votecount 1.01
Hectic (2) - popsofctown, Correspondence
popsofctown (2) - Dunnstral, gameplay506
gameplay506 (1) - NotMySpamAccount
Correspondence (1) - Egduf
Dunnstral (1) - Hectic

Not Voting (2) - x maya, Lil Uzi Vert

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-08-26 00:15:00).


In post 26, popsofctown wrote:mod: can we vote for ourselves to wear the crown. Also, are crown votes public?


Selfvoting to wear the crown is allowed. Crown votes will be made public after the crown bearer has been selected. The votes will be blind for the 24 hour period, but then be revealed once the crown bearer has been selected.
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Post Post #80  (isolation #5)  » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:12 pm

Votecount 1.02
popsofctown (3) - Dunnstral, gameplay506, Edguf (L-2)
Dunnstral (2) - Hectic, x maya
gameplay506 (1) - NotMySpamAccount
Hectic (1) - popsofctown
Edguf (1) - Correspondence

Not Voting (1) - Lil Uzi Vert

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-08-26 00:15:00).


Lil Uzi Vert has been prodded. Searching for replacement for NotMySpamAccount. Doctor Drew replaces NotMySpamAccount.

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Post Post #102  (isolation #6)  » Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:33 pm

Votecount 1.03popsofctown (3) - Dunnstral, gameplay506, Edguf (L-2)
Correspondence (2) - Doctor Drew, Hectic
Dunnstral (1) - x maya
Hectic (1) - popsofctown
Edguf (1) - Correspondence

Not Voting (1) - Lil Uzi Vert

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-08-26 00:15:00).


Searching for replacement for Lil Uzi Vert.RCEnigma replaces Lil Uzi Vert.

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Post Post #118  (isolation #7)  » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:31 pm

x maya had been prodded.
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Post Post #151  (isolation #8)  » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:00 am

x maya has failed to pick up her prod. Searching for replacement for x maya.
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Post Post #171  (isolation #9)  » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:02 pm

1

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Post Post #172  (isolation #10)  » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:02 pm

2

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Post Post #173  (isolation #11)  » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:02 pm

3

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Post Post #174  (isolation #12)  » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:02 pm

4

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Post Post #175  (isolation #13)  » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:03 pm

Votecount 1.04
Correspondence (2) - RCEnigma, Hectic
Hectic (2) - Doctor Drew, gampelay506
popsofctown (1) - Egduf
Dunnstral (1) - Aa
Edguf (1) - Correspondence
Doctor Drew (1) - popsofctown

Not Voting (1) - Dunnstral

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-08-26 00:15:00).


Aa replaces x maya effective immediately.

@Hectic: Crown abilities are not random.
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Post Post #228  (isolation #14)  » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:44 pm

Votecount 1.05
Correspondence (2) - RCEnigma, Hectic
Hectic (2) - Doctor Drew, gampelay506
popsofctown (1) - Egduf
Edguf (1) - Correspondence
Doctor Drew (1) - popsofctown

Not Voting (2) - Dunnstral, Aa

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-08-26 00:15:00).
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Post Post #275  (isolation #15)  » Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:04 pm

Votecount 1.06
Correspondence (2) - RCEnigma, Hectic
Hectic (1) - Doctor Drew
popsofctown (1) - Egduf
Edguf (1) - Correspondence
Doctor Drew (1) - gameplay506
RCEnigma - popsofctown

Not Voting (2) - Dunnstral, Aa

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-08-26 00:15:00).


The Crown stirs a little...
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Post Post #349  (isolation #16)  » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:42 pm

Meep

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Post Post #350  (isolation #17)  » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:42 pm

Votecount 1.07
Correspondence (3) - RCEnigma, Hectic, Egduf
Hectic (3) - Doctor Drew, gameplay506, Dunnstral
Edguf (1) - Correspondence
RCEnigma - popsofctown

Not Voting (1) - Aa

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-08-26 00:15:00).


Correspondence has been prodded.
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Post Post #375  (isolation #18)  » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:55 am

Votecount 1.08
RCEnigma (3) - popsofctown, Correspondence, gameplay506 L-2
Correspondence (2) - RCEnigma, Egduf
Hectic (1) - Dunnstral
Doctor Drew (1) - Hectic

Not Voting (2) - Aa, Doctor Drew

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-08-26 00:15:00).

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Post Post #385  (isolation #19)  » Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:22 pm

In post 384, RCEnigma wrote:@oversoul, is crown voting down directly after the lynch?

Will it be resolved before night actions are taken?


Yes and yes.

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Post Post #516  (isolation #20)  » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:48 pm

Votecount 1.09
Hectic (3) - Dunnstral, gameplay506, Doctor Drew L-2
Doctor Drew (3) - Hectic, RCEnigma, popsofctown L-2
RCEnigma (2) - popsofctown, Correspondence
Correspondence (1) - Egduf

Not Voting (1) - Aa

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-08-26 00:15:00).
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Post Post #561  (isolation #21)  » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:24 pm

Votecount 1.10
Doctor Drew (6) - Hectic, RCEnigma, Correspondence, popsctown, Dunnstral (LYNCH) gameplay506 overkill
Hectic (1) - Doctor Drew
Correspondence (1) - Egduf

Not Voting (1) - Aa

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-08-26 00:15:00).

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Post Post #562  (isolation #22)  » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:26 pm

Votecount 1.11
Doctor Drew (5) - Hectic, RCEnigma, Correspondence, popsctown, Dunnstral (LYNCH)
Hectic (1) - Doctor Drew, gameplay506
Correspondence (1) - Egduf

Not Voting (1) - Aa

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-08-26 00:15:00).


Doctor Drew has been lynched! He was a Vanilla Townie!

Crown voting begins now. Please PM me your vote for who wears the Crown. You will have 24 hours for this phase of the game. Night will then begin and last 48 hours.

(expired on 2019-08-27 00:00:00)
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Post Post #563  (isolation #23)  » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:30 pm

Crown Vote 1
popsofctown (4) - popsofctown, Correspondence, RCEnigma, Dunnstral
gameplay506 (2) - gameplay506, Hectic
Egduf (1) - Egduf
Correspondence (1) - Aa

Not Voting (0) -

popsofctown has been Crowned!


The deadline for Night 1 is August 29, 9:00p.m. EST. I don't know if this is accurate (expired on 2019-08-29 00:30:00).

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Post Post #564  (isolation #24)  » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:42 pm

Aa, Seeking Mason, has been killed Night 1.

Day 2 starts now!

Votecount 2.00
Not Voting (7) - Correspondence, Dunnstral, Egduf, gameplay506, Hectic, popsofctown, RCEnigma

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-09-06 13:00:00).


Thank you for everyone's patience.
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Post Post #613  (isolation #25)  » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:22 pm

Votecount 2.01
Not Voting (7) - Correspondence, Dunnstral, Egduf, gameplay506, Hectic, popsofctown, RCEnigma

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-09-06 13:00:00).
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Post Post #687  (isolation #26)  » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:16 pm

Votecount 2.02
Correspondence (2) - Dunnstral, gameplay506
gameplay506 (1) - Egduf
Dunnstral (1) - Hectic

Not Voting (3) - Correspondence, popsofctown, RCEnigma

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-09-06 13:00:00).


In post 657, Hectic wrote:
In post 653, popsofctown wrote:If I get nightkilled the crown ability is incorporated in my flip

@mod: Do crown abilities flip with deaths? Wondering if this is confirmable.


Yes.

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Post Post #692  (isolation #27)  » Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:21 am

Correspondence has been prodded.

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Post Post #758  (isolation #28)  » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:50 pm

Votecount 2.03
Dunnstral (2) - Correspondence, popsofctown L-2
Correspondence (1) - Dunnstral
gameplay506 (1) - Egduf

Not Voting (3) - RCEnigma, gameplay506, Hectic

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-09-06 13:00:00).

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Post Post #794  (isolation #29)  » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:33 pm

Votecount 2.04
Dunnstral (4) - Correspondence, popsofctown, RCEnigma, gameplay506 LYNCH
gameplay506 (1) - Egduf
popsofctown (1) - Dunnstral

Not Voting (1) - Hectic

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.


The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-09-06 13:00:00).


Dunnstral, Mafia Goon, has been lynched!

Crown voting starts now and will end at 8:30 on 9/4/2019. (expired on 2019-09-05 00:34:00)

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Post Post #795  (isolation #30)  » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:25 pm

Votecount Crown Vote 2
Hectic (5) - popsofctown, Hectic, Egduf, RCEnigma, gameplay506

Not Voting (1) - Correspondence


Hectic has been Crowned! Hectic is an Innocent Child aligned with the Town.

Aa’s limp body shimmers in the light. Aa was an Innocent Child aligned with the town!

The deadline for Night 2 is in (expired on 2019-09-07 02:00:00).

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Post Post #796  (isolation #31)  » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:06 pm

RCEnigma, 2-shot Bodyguard, has been killed Night 2.

Vote Count 3.00
Not Voting (5) - Correspondence, Egduf, gameplay506, Hectic, popsofctown


The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2019-09-14 02:00:00).

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Post Post #804  (isolation #32)  » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:33 am

Vote Count 3.01
Not Voting (5) - Correspondence, Egduf, gameplay506, Hectic, popsofctown


The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2019-09-14 02:00:00).

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Post Post #819  (isolation #33)  » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:48 am

Egduf has been prodded.

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Post Post #830  (isolation #34)  » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:05 am

Searching for Egduf's replacement!
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Post Post #836  (isolation #35)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:16 am

Chemist1422 replaces Egduf effective immediately!

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Post Post #855  (isolation #36)  » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:58 am

Vote Count 3.01
Chemist1422 (2) - Correspondence, Hectic L-1
Not Voting (3) - Chemist1422, gameplay506, popsofctown


The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2019-09-17 02:00:00).

Since a couple of players have asked for an extension a 72 hour extension will be granted.
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Post Post #892  (isolation #37)  » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:47 pm

Vote Count 3.03
Chemist1422 (3) - Correspondence, Hectic, popsofctown L-0
Not Voting (2) - Chemist1422, gameplay506


The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2019-09-17 02:00:00).

Chemist has been lynched! He was a Mafia Goon!

A wincondition has been achieved. The Town has won the game!

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Post Post #894  (isolation #38)  » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:49 pm

Dead Thread
Stenographer
Mason

Mafia has 48 hours to let me know if they want any redactions, otherwise the Mafia Chat will be released.

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Post Post #896  (isolation #39)  » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:53 pm

In post 895, popsofctown wrote:We should grant credit to Correspondence's Day 1 Egduf read being on-point.

@Oversoul - can you release the full setup for our curiosity or are you going to keep as much as possible secret for potential reuses


I will be releasing everything momentarily. Something_Smart, as well as several of others including yourself, made several cogent points about the setup overall that there is enough I would change that I do not fear releasing the information publicly.

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Post Post #898  (isolation #40)  » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:02 pm

In post 897, popsofctown wrote:The Mason chat is a great read.


Brevity is the soul of wit, right?

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Post Post #900  (isolation #41)  » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:07 pm

Hi everyone,

First, I want to give big thanks to all of my wonderful replacements (RCEnigma, Aa, Doctor Drew, Skygazer, Nancy Drew 39, Chemist1422, Auzersky, Not Known 15, Whemestar). When this game started I was coming off some really hard real life stuff and just seeing so many people interested in playing the game really made me happy. All the replacements (and would be replacements *cough* Menalque *cough*) get an Oversoul IOU. Terms and restrictions apply, but this essentially is an IOU for a favor. Replace into the game, join a game, backup mod, design, crappy flavor writing, crappier pixel art, somehow even crappier vector art, you name it. :D

I hope you all had fun in my game. I know I had fun modding it. My first time modding in a long time, so I apologize for some of the hiccups along the way. Namely, my prodding could have been more timely, my proofreading on RCEnigma's role PM could have been better, and I could have better prepared my flavor! Speaking of which, I had originally planned this game to have a mystery flavor related to the Title Fairies upon specific conditions 1) a mason getting Crowned, or 2) a mason dying. I had prepared the flavor up to that point, but most was not archived on site. In the 11th hour that I would actually need to release that information, I got bronchitis, had to evacuate from my home due to extreme weather, and had a crisis of faith that the flavor was not good enough. Micc had raised points about the flavor in the design and it stuck with me. As my first modded game back on this site, it would be really weird to write flavor about people I do not really know. It would be event weirder to be those people I do not know when they see some random dood talking about them, so I decided to just run this flavorless. You can see remnants of the flavor in the design thread that I will release shortly. I will be saving the role pms I made because it is my intention to use them at some point in the future.

Here is the setup:

Spoiler: Setup
In post 0, Oversoul wrote:Thank you for looking at my set-up. Everything is negotiable. :)

Crown on the Ground9P

Mafia:
1x Goon (secret ability 1-x Rolecop)
1x Goon (secret ability 1-x Ability cop)

Town:
2x Searching Masons (secret ability - become IC, this also activates the other mason to become IC)
1x 2-shot Bodyguard (secret ability 1 extra shot of bodyguard)
4x VT (secret abilities 1-x Motion Detector, 1-x Fruit Vendor, 1-x Stenographer [gets a PT immediately upon activation and can invite 1 person to that pt], 1-x Voyeur)


Ability cop: Will get the ability name for the secret ability the target has. In this game the only possible results would be "Innocent Child(x2), Bodyguard, Jailkeeper, Neapolitan, Stenographer, Voyeur)

Searching mason: Mason who knows there is another mason in the game, but cannot communicate with them unless they both target each other on the same night. Their secret ability makes both of them Innocent Children. If they had gained a PT before becoming Innocent Children, they keep the PT.

Stenographer: I have wanted this modified version of Neighborizer for awhile. Basically, the player gets access to a PT that they can then invite a person to. In my experience, the PT only becomes created AFTER a successful resolution of the neighborizing action.

My overall idea is that I want the players to decide who gets a power role, but I want there to be serious trade offs for who they select since it will be plurality. I didn't want it to be simple for scum to just shoot whoever gets the power role, so I added the searching masons and the bodyguard. I think Bodyguard + Mason/IC is such a neat interaction because if it succeeds it mostly maintains the EV. I think with just masons + bodyguard, the EV is ~40%.

No one will be told what their secret ability is until after they have been selected to wear the crown.



I have wanted to run a MafiaScum-centric game for a while now. I wanted it to be fun and entertaining, but I am learning that I am not that (i)NSYNC with site jokes, not funny, and not good at writing. Any future participants in my games will have to suffer through my horrible humor and grammar for months to come. :twisted: That said, I do think I have a pretty decent eye for balance and game design. I hope most of you will agree with that notion. That being said, this game was definitely townsided (not that I think this changed the overall outcome of the game). It also missed its mark with the mechanic, which I think has good potential for being a fun mechanical addition to a mafia game.

This is a pretty typical normal Micro game at face value. 2 regular mafia vs 3 decent power roles is the type of balance you will see in most normal, non-swingy Micro games. I was influenced by CFJ's Role Call game to include the Crown mechanic where players choose who gets a power role. I thought that was a cool game mechanic that could be further explored. I chose preexisting power roles for a very specific reason. I balance all of my games on the assumption that town mass claims on day 1 (I think this is usually THE play regardless of alignment, but we can discuss that later). From there, I wanted mafia to really have to choose between letting a townie use an unknown power versus leaving a confirmed town player alive. I did not want to upset the actual amount of town to scum in the game, so that is why I included the Bodyguard. I wanted to reward the town for correctly "blocking" a shot, but without adding another confirmed town into the mix and screwing the mafia completely. Side note: I think Bodyguard is a role that should get more use, but should also have more streamlined interactions... It can get pretty weird. Like what if a Weak Vigilante shoots a Mafia member protected by a Bodyguard? Or what if a Bodyguard protects a Tracker who visits a PGO? I don't think those scenarios have cut and dry answers yet. I think that Bodyguard + Conftown Roles is a wonderful role interaction that I hope sees more use.

Now onto the Crown abilities. I knew that I did not want to introduce strong abilities like cop, tracker, jailkeeper, etc despite wanting those things in CFJ's game. It just upsets the balance of the game too much. I did want players to feel like they could effectuate change. All of the roles could be helpful in some way, potentially catching lying scum or just helping confirm more town. I chose Fruit Vendor and Stenographer (which is basically a neighborizer who can just post in their hood before adding someone, helpful for gambits in regular games I think) because even if mafia did decide to kill them the night they could still add something to the game. The mafia on the other hand would get useful information. I wanted the mafia to really have to grapple with their nightkill choices in this game because I feel like Micros are inherently scumsided due to their small size.

I am open to any and all criticism. Did you think the game was fun? Did you like the randomness of the flavor? Would you like to join another game modded by me?

Speaking of future games... I have a lot of ideas. Some good, some bad. Some half baked, some less-than-half-baked. I will give you a little snippet of them all below. Order is not indicative of their current state of readiness.

In the Land of Heat & Lightning - 13p, Murder on the Orient Express, but with pink lawn flamingos?

Under the Moon - 12p, gated night actions, hairy arms, and occult dancing.

Farmers Market - 17p, Market Place featuring more farm animals, fruits, vegetables, and of course, manure.

Heroes! Unite! - 17p, MafiaScum-centric, global gate mechanic, villains, masks, and a lot of spandex.

A Game of Mafia - 19p, my take on an alt game. :D

Some Weeb Shit - I want to run a weeb game because they look like fun.

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Post Post #901  (isolation #42)  » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:09 pm

popsofctown gets the town MVP award.

Correspondence gets the funniest person(s) award.

Chemist1422 gets the my-internet-heart-breaks-for-you award.

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Post Post #902  (isolation #43)  » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:10 pm

I think the biggest take away from this setup is that Something_Smart and Dunnstral are entirely correct, I will not be using that tiebreaking rule ever again. And also that the masons defeated the point of the mechanic, essentially turning it into a regular game of mafia.

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Post Post #925  (isolation #44)  » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:41 pm

Note to self: have Dunnstral and Pops review more games.

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Post Post #926  (isolation #45)  » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:47 pm

To absolve Micc, I did not run that Alphabetical rule by him.

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Post Post #929  (isolation #46)  » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:37 pm

In post 928, popsofctown wrote:This setup was indeed batshit scumsided.


:?:

Did you mean townsided?

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Post Post #930  (isolation #47)  » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:47 pm

In post 924, Dunnstral wrote:There's so many things wrong with this statement it's shocking. I will go over all of them.

First of all, I'll point out that one of the mafia crown powers is a role cop. What's the point of that if town massclaims on day 1? It becomes a useless role, so if you balanced around that you really shouldn't have.
Second, mafia didn't really get to choose anything - either they kill both of the masons (and the bodyguard by extension), or they automatically lose the game. If there was an actual choice where a townie had a real crown power... why should mafia be driven into a corner by towns bad play?

Town mass claiming all of their roles on day 1 should put them in a position worse off than where they started. Instead, the opposite happened, and even though the entire town was outted with their roles, AND we lynched town, AND the crown power was very tame (neighborizor), AND we knew what the crown power was because it targetted mafia.... it still felt like we were the ones being cornered - and we were - because the setup was straight up broken.

Mafia had absolutely no answer to the entire town massclaiming on day 1 - that's a design FLAW, not a feature. That's not how setups are designed on this site generally, and yes mass claiming day 1 is, and really should be, bad play. I'd go as far as to say that a mass claim from town on day 1 should almost always result in a loss, so the fact that town wasn't hampered in the slightest, and instead seemed to have benefited from this is pretty bad and goes against a lot of the design principles I've seen on this site.

And you don't deserve to say that this is how you balance your games, from now on if you want to continue to design setups like this please say it's how you "make" your games - a small distinction, but you're not implying that you're looking out for balance, it's just how it is.


I want to address this when I have time, which is not right now. I think I should put the clarification that massclaim occurs very easily in minis/micros. You were a part of two micros where this occurred. This game and Ircher's micro normal where you were friendly neighbor. I think that is an inherent problem in micros though.

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Post Post #935  (isolation #48)  » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:27 am

In post 930, Oversoul wrote:
In post 924, Dunnstral wrote:There's so many things wrong with this statement it's shocking. I will go over all of them.

First of all, I'll point out that one of the mafia crown powers is a role cop. What's the point of that if town massclaims on day 1? It becomes a useless role, so if you balanced around that you really shouldn't have.

Role Cop can also see people's roles after Crowning. You are incorrect that it is useless, just less useful in the event of a massclaim.

Second, mafia didn't really get to choose anything - either they kill both of the masons (and the bodyguard by extension), or they automatically lose the game. If there was an actual choice where a townie had a real crown power... why should mafia be driven into a corner by towns bad play?
I acknowledge that the masons undercut many of the play elements that I wanted to incorporate. I do think that it was an issue to have mafia need to successfully lynch 3 out of the 4 VTs. That said, I do think that RCEnigma could have gotten killed if the scumteam pushed that way when he claimed.

Town mass claiming all of their roles on day 1 should put them in a position worse off than where they started. Instead, the opposite happened, and even though the entire town was outted with their roles, AND we lynched town, AND the crown power was very tame (neighborizor), AND we knew what the crown power was because it targetted mafia.... it still felt like we were the ones being cornered - and we were - because the setup was straight up broken.
Why should mass claim necessarily harm town? In my opinion, power roles are not meant to catch scum. They are meant to prevent mislynches.

Mafia had absolutely no answer to the entire town massclaiming on day 1 - that's a design FLAW, not a feature. That's not how setups are designed on this site generally, and yes mass claiming day 1 is, and really should be, bad play. I'd go as far as to say that a mass claim from town on day 1 should almost always result in a loss, so the fact that town wasn't hampered in the slightest, and instead seemed to have benefited from this is pretty bad and goes against a lot of the design principles I've seen on this site.
I would argue that town were harmed in this game because a mason died the first night. As I noted in the dead thread, scum would have been better off if the bodyguard was 1-shot or if they had a 1-shot roleblocker of their own.

And you don't deserve to say that this is how you balance your games, from now on if you want to continue to design setups like this please say it's how you "make" your games - a small distinction, but you're not implying that you're looking out for balance, it's just how it is.
I am sorry you seem so personally offended by this game. I apologize that you did not have fun. I do think it is only fair to point out that scum's own actions could have lead to a different result. You by your very nature have a lowkey, lurking style of play. That works in large games, but I do not think it works in smaller games, especially micros. It is unfortunate that your style of play in particular was punished this game.

That said, I think this game was doomed from the start. Even though EV states two ICs in 9p is scumfavored, I do not think this is true in practice. The type of mechanic I wanted to explore greatly benefits from a larger game mode and allows for different power roles to be used on both sides of the ball. It also makes the mechanic itself more interesting as choosing the IC to crown was essentially a waste of time for everyone involved.

I want to again say I apologize to the players in this game who expected better balance. In particular, I apologize to Chemist, Dunnstral, and Egduf. The game was ultimately not fair to your faction. Since this game turned out super townsided, I guess that means I have to make my next game super scumsided. :shifty: I promise for my next game I will be more diligent in examining the balance. I will probably not be running a game until Christmas time.

Thank you all for playing!



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