Micro 890: CultD3 [Game Over; Korina Rules The World]

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Korina

claimed cultist already

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Chemist

Woo! Left RVS on page one!

Not again...

[Chemist1422]

Oh, and VOTE: Chemist

why am I the default early wagon

[Chemist1422]

Oh, and VOTE: Chemist

why am I the default early wagon

Because you lurked really hard the last time I played with you. I found it rather frustrating + would like to either:
1. Force you to be more active to stop the lynch on you, or
2. Lynch you if you lurk again.

And an early wagon on me for no reason other than policy is supposed to help my motivation how?

[Chemist1422]

Well you DID also try and replace out of Fire's game earlier? Was it cuz they were rude or something?

I would rather not discuss that one if you don't mind

[Chemist1422]

Fine then

I welcome this challenge, annoying as it is

[Chemist1422]

EJ why are you keeping your vote on me

If you read the context of why I replaced out of that game you could probably find the reason but I would just prefer if it weren't to get brought up again for reasons

[Chemist1422]

WHAT UP BITCHES

oh boy but without any dread

[Chemist1422]

this is unproductive

this won't help you get any reads

and scum is going to hide in your noise

so, stop?

I'm curious why you think the noise won't help out scum?

help out scum not as in assist scum, but as in help reveal scum

[Chemist1422]

elsa, why isn't your claim something scum could make?

Because there's 2 slots for unrecruitable townie, but they only appear together. One PR CC and I'm dead instantly.

If you were CCed you have a route to back out though

[Chemist1422]

I do, but it seems unlikely I'd use it if I'm actually a UT and I'd stand my ground.

But if you’re scum you could

[Chemist1422]

elsa, why isn't your claim something scum could make?

Because there's 2 slots for unrecruitable townie, but they only appear together. One PR CC and I'm dead instantly.

???

[Chemist1422]

Should we be claiming UT/not UT?

[Chemist1422]

EJ is probably never the cult leader so I don’t wanna lynch there today

[Chemist1422]

We should probably be lynching people who are likely to be the cult leader

Not Elsa, not me, probably not EP

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: chemist

I'm just gonna sheep Pine while I sit here in the embarrassment of not knowing how a role worked.

Why not you?

Because...I'm town

I assumed you'll be on your own list

[Chemist1422]

Well you DID also try and replace out of Fire's game earlier? Was it cuz they were rude or something?

I would rather not discuss that one if you don't mind

...hhheeeyyy

Idk if you saw it but I left a super sincere apology after you got lynched.

Pedit: like mentally, sure, but I don't often write myself in on like reads lists and stuff that I post.

I totally did, there was a spectator PT that I responded to it to that had like 5 posts (all from me/fire) and probably got deleted but yeah no hard feelings

On the second point, that's a style thing I guess

While I've got you tho, also explain probably why not EP?

I don't think a role like CL just goes out and tries to push what essentially amounts to a policy lynch that early

It's not as confident as the EJ read but it's there

[Chemist1422]

bad direction to lead town towards, chemist.

A day 1 autowin is bad?

Or am I misunderstanding the mechanics of this?

[Chemist1422]

it's a very unreliable way to try to kill cult.

It has much larger benefits than playing it out normally though

[Chemist1422]

trying to kill cult leader also ironically takes focus away from scumhunting,

the one day we can reliably do it without justified paranoia,

and focuses on "who seems like cult LEADER" rather than "who is scum," which is pointless and bad.

Fair point

[Chemist1422]

you don't find scum by

forcing

stances out of them when they don't have any.

and why not

I'll get working on the readslist soon

[Chemist1422]

Hey yall
I find this game quite boring
But why are you all ignoring Elsa?

Why do you find it boring?

[Chemist1422]

Answer his questions.

HI CHEMIST.

hello

busy with homework rn but I'll get to reads later tonight I promise

[Chemist1422]

Town:
Chemist - hi

EP - A lot of their posts feel like they're genuinely trying to push for content to be created and the game to progress.

chk? - really just a gut/tone read

Null:
Pine/CJ/gameplay - don't really remember any of their posts and too tired to go back and look

Drew - not really getting pinged one way or the other

Scum:
L&L - A lot of their early posts seemed very commentative and didn't add to the gamestate really at all

Elsa - I keep going back and forth on this read but I don't really see the town motivation in their claim

[Chemist1422]

VOTE COUNT 1.4

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to lynch.

(expired on 2019-09-30 18:55:00) remain in the day.

Mod Notes

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What are your thoughts on a wingdings vc next?

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[Chemist1422]

L+L I keep seeing you commenting on people leading town down a bad path

So what's the good path to lead them down?

[Chemist1422]

Hmm interesting case. I do notice that I posted about hunting scum over cult leader and now Light and L apparently likes me.

this post actually bothers me a lot

There’s not really any reason to not bring this up before the case was posted so now it just feels like bandwagoning

[Chemist1422]

And your opinion of the case is...?

The case makes sense but their reaction is really weird

Instead of trying to break it down they just try to discredit it which doesn’t make sense if they’re trying to look towny

Then again I could be overthinking it and they could be reacting opposite to what they got pressured for in the first place on purpose

[Chemist1422]

Oh and why the fuck are you still voting the mod?

I think we've all seen enough to dump a vote SOMEWHERE.

I forgot about that lol

VOTE: ceejay

[Chemist1422]

Mobile vc 1.6
Light (4, L-1) - chk, ep, elsa, ceejay
Chemist (1) - pine
Ep (1) - drew

Not voting - anyone else not listed

Deadline sometime, in like 8ish days.

@mod

I voted ceejay

[Chemist1422]

Hmm interesting case. I do notice that I posted about hunting scum over cult leader and now Light and L apparently likes me.

VOTE: Light and L

yeah this is really not good progression

[Chemist1422]

Hmm interesting case. I do notice that I posted about hunting scum over cult leader and now Light and L apparently likes me.

VOTE: Light and L

yeah this is really not good progression

Looks fine to me, I just forgot about that first post.

What's your qualms with it?

Like I mentioned earlier it brings up something that should have been brought up before the case so the timing makes it feel like an excuse to sheep if the case gets support

[Chemist1422]

Mainstream Micro I - Cult Leader: JacobSavage
Mainstream Micro III - Cult Leader: TheIrishPope
Mainstream Micro IV - Cult Leader: Wisdom

The 2nd micro isn't linked correctly in my wiki or I'd have that one up as well.

The general synopsis of cult in micros is to look TOWN AS FUCK so that they don't get lynched. Now,

my micros

are only different in the sense that cult leader starts 100% alone and doesn't speak among its members (because there's no cap to real cult [sorry not sorry mod] so daytalk would potentially make them too powerful a force). Eliminating that, though, and you have a very small sample of what your average player does when given the role to simply grow and survive.

What is Light and L doing?
71 - Offering advice in regards to my silly push on Elsa Jay and the grandstanding EJ did with DD.
161 - Pushing discussion to go the way of "find scum" over "find the cult leader" (which I've already outlined is bad)
all six or seven posts defending the chemist wagon - it's easy af to just come in and white knight the policy lynch to look town
the domino theory - it places them at the lead of town and allows them to take charge and "sort" their three dominoes while leading town wherever they want

This is all well-orchestrated attempts at looking AS TOWN AS POSSIBLE while setting themselves up to lead us down the path.

Not only no, but FUCK no.

Lynch Light and L. They're the cult leader.

@pine

[Chemist1422]

Mainstream Micro I - Cult Leader: JacobSavage
Mainstream Micro III - Cult Leader: TheIrishPope
Mainstream Micro IV - Cult Leader: Wisdom

The 2nd micro isn't linked correctly in my wiki or I'd have that one up as well.

The general synopsis of cult in micros is to look TOWN AS FUCK so that they don't get lynched. Now,

my micros

are only different in the sense that cult leader starts 100% alone and doesn't speak among its members (because there's no cap to real cult [sorry not sorry mod] so daytalk would potentially make them too powerful a force). Eliminating that, though, and you have a very small sample of what your average player does when given the role to simply grow and survive.

What is Light and L doing?
71 - Offering advice in regards to my silly push on Elsa Jay and the grandstanding EJ did with DD.
161 - Pushing discussion to go the way of "find scum" over "find the cult leader" (which I've already outlined is bad)
all six or seven posts defending the chemist wagon - it's easy af to just come in and white knight the policy lynch to look town
the domino theory - it places them at the lead of town and allows them to take charge and "sort" their three dominoes while leading town wherever they want

This is all well-orchestrated attempts at looking AS TOWN AS POSSIBLE while setting themselves up to lead us down the path.

Not only no, but FUCK no.

Lynch Light and L. They're the cult leader.

@pine

Yeah I don't buy this shit at-fucking-all, and there's probably scum on the wagon. Starting with Chemist (still).

oh my god

I’m not even on the wagon

[Chemist1422]

Shocking, espresso+chk push scums agenda im truly shocked.

fun tip: saying the people pushing you are pushing scum agenda does not make you more credible and just looks like you're omgusing

shocking I know

[Chemist1422]

yeah okay chkflip is town sweet

[Chemist1422]

Pine's town

Chk's scum

And Espresso is a scumlean

I also will assume chemist is town

So wait

You had me as one of your slots that was most important to solve

Why are you just making an assumption instead of reading me?

[Chemist1422]

Intent to hammer chennis because this day isn't going anywhere anyway

[Chemist1422]

Since were clearly not getting anything not sarcastic from Pine

VOTE: chennis

glgl

[Chemist1422]

Interesting

[Chemist1422]

He also hard defended Chenn.

VOTE: Pine

He's doing the same with Elsa today. My guess is that's who was recruited last night.

VOTE: Pine

That’s the only reasoning you can think of?

[Chemist1422]

I can't envision a world where the cult leader didn't consider hiding in the wagon, so I can't say without a doubt that it's Karnage (though I do see his flailing posts). I have to take a third look back at interactions.

Mmmmm

Scenario time.

A) It's Pine. They hard defended their cop buddy, culted the obvious fake claimer (who happened to be another PR), then they orchestrated this "It isn't Pine because I tracked Pine" story. Ez peezy lemon squeezy.

B) It's Karnage. gameplay lurked to stay under the radar and got replaced by someone who is flinging mud everywhere to see what sticks. Though I will admit that seeing a cult cop flip did make me go HMMM about Elsa.

C) It's Chemist1442. They hammered to appear more town, bussing via scum read with no actual committal to the chennis wagon until the very end where they didn't feel they had much of a choice.

It very obviously isn't myself or Elsa.

I can't think of any other viable scenarios currently.

How confident are you that it's within these three

[Chemist1422]

i would say elsa and EP, and maybe chemist, are the dominoes. if you're a domino your job is to be cooperative and make it easy for you to be townbinned, and play with the goal of figuring out how scum is trying to manipulate the topping of the dominoes (aka - how they're trying to manipulate your interactions.)

I don’t think EP is the cult leader just because of this post

I don’t think chennis puts that much focus on their leader

[Chemist1422]

Elsa being CL who recruited the tracker (probably Pine) last night is possible but pretty tinfoil

[Chemist1422]

Saying one can't be CL but the other can, when both are named in the post, doesn't make sense. At work rn but my next post will be the case.

Yeah I'm not saying it's likely it's just a thought I brought up

I probably should've made that clearer

[Chemist1422]

chk where’d you go

[Chemist1422]

Alright I’ve been going back and forth on this but I’m the rolestopper and targeted Elsa last night. He and Pine are clear.

[Chemist1422]

Its still sluggish for me. 10-ish seconds to load a page. Might be because I'm a poor mobile user, but still.

Nah I'm on a chromebook and it's struggling for me too

[Chemist1422]

Yeah I know

But I thought I had a solid chance of getting recruited anyway, and I think we have a higher chance of winning today than me winning as cult, or even as town, after a Pine mislynch

[Chemist1422]

Intent to hammer

I have a PoE of Karnage/EP so yeah I'd be down for a Karnage lynch

I also recognize I'm probably going to lose if this flips town in which case gg

[Chemist1422]

yeet

VOTE: karnage

[Chemist1422]

It’s always fun to be forced into a position where you have to gamethrow

[Chemist1422]

WAIT I COULD HAVE JUST ROLESTOPPED EP OR DD I AM ACTUALLY THE DUMBEST PERSON

[Chemist1422]

Well that wouldn't have stopped you from getting converted, friend. But the fact you claimed Rolestopper fucked up Drew's ability to claim it now. So I thank you for that.

Yeah but I could’ve stopped your track

[Chemist1422]

Well no real way of weasiling out of this one(korina, why couldn't this be more bastard so I make up a role like I did in the other game lol).

Korina said he will be gone for a few days so might as well have some fun.

AMA with the cult leader.

I will not reveal who has been recruited, obviously, but I will answer any question you want. Up to you guys to determine how truthfull you think I will be.

I’ll join in as well for funsies

[Chemist1422]

Can we just double vote Drew and Chemist out at once since they both admitted it? Let's call it double jeopardy, Korina.

You could do that

Or you could leave me alive until LyLo to haunt you for your past mistakes

[Chemist1422]

Can we just double vote Drew and Chemist out at once since they both admitted it? Let's call it double jeopardy, Korina.

I'm fine with this happening as long as I get the following things:
- At least three town and two cultists, (preferably Drew and Chemist since this affects them the most), agreeing to it in PMs.
- Any night actions that anyone may posses for the next two nights.
- The lynch order.

- A photo of a dog.

I'm gonna say no, that's boring

[Chemist1422]

Rude.

You just wanna stall out tommorow and talk to your buddy like a chump.

I just wanna stall out tomorrow and making y’all suffer for making me lose

i am the ghost of your past mistakes oOoOoOoOoOoOoOo

[Chemist1422]

quick day nonono

there's literally no benefit to lynching me today as opposed to tomorrow

you get more accidental spew and I get to meme around more

[Chemist1422]

oh right I forgot I had that

ok

[Chemist1422]

surprise I was town

[Chemist1422]

Oh hey I won