Scummies Nominations 2019

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Can I nominate someone to be my representative so they can nominate people on my behalf for different categories?

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I don't feel like I have a good sense of who should get nommed for what things.

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It seems odd that best mechanical play is only allowed for town, since scum can have PRs too. So can third party. Was coming here to do a mech play nom but I guess not.

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My inherent shyness is doubled when such lawlessness is involved

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Master Strategist
October 17,2019	popsofctown	Lady Lambdadelta	Anime uPick Heart of Shadow	Lady Lambdadelta rolled "Role-janitor", a very weak night action for a stacked role madness large theme. But she identified it to be at its strongest if a player were to soft or hard claim a role planning to rescind later, and went to use "every part of the buffalo", engaging in a gambit that would be riskier if she didn't also note her role had resilience to roleblocks. She fakeclaimed masons with another player, identifying a townie that would be interested in a temporary relief from pressure, and the townie corroborated. Then she killed the corroborater (which did not in and of itself imply a desire to hide a lack of mason ability, since all players had multiple abilities) using the role-janitor. She was then "confirmed" town, which won her faction the game.

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I Am Insurrection

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I changed "role" to "night action" to clarify that her role PM was powerful when passives are taken into account.

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Nth lld dc

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I played with him in newbie 1951, where there was an argument to be made that town won the game in spite of him rather than because of him. But the features of his towngame that may have been a problem in 1951 seemed to drop off like vestigial appendages in Alisae V Pine (where he similarly didn't dominate control of the popular wagons, but became less frustrated and continued to clear his own slot and generate readable interactions), and improvement and positive y axis trajectory is what the category is about, as I understand it. Nth.

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I feel like you should have to start in the bottom 50% of players to qualify for Rising Star so skitter doesn't qualify

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No one or virtually no one gets statistically relevant sample sizes in a year. Subjective assessments like the one RC is making seem worthwhile over straight W/L.

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Creature getting a scum play nom

tempi cambi

Bold your nths

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LLD for DC, I'm just not smart enough to write it up.

RC promised us a spicy DC nom

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I was thinking the other day that the problem with trying to come up with modfather nom is the modding experiences I've liked haven't come from prolific mods and the prolific mods have let me down some.

Oversoul just nommed someone even though they're not prolific and that kinda makes sense

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I don't know how many games nsg modded this year, Oversoul mentioned she had fewer than the other nom so I assumed it was low.

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Mad Scientist
December 16, 2019	popsofctown	Something_Smart	Undertale Semi-Open, Undertale Semi-Open 1.1	The May Open Setup Design Contest was stacked with strong entries. Yet Something_Smart won the contest and it wasn't even close. The reason was because his setup was a truly innovative concept that added new angles to mafia without subverting the informed minority dynamic. Undertale Semi-Open is both "vote for town" and "vote for scum", allowing players to dynamically swap between those choices, unlike other setups that have presented "vote for town" before. It also features a kill-immune neighborhood for "vote for town" nominees, which can have social deduction implications. The features of the game's endgame change based on how much "vote for town" and "vote for scum" was used. Undertale Semi-Open was put into practice twice, and the paradigm shifts and endless possibilities suggested by the concept were by and large realized. The endgames are balanced enough that players frequently disagree which one is best. This can shift further when the gamestate favors a certain route due to the dayplay, or when the randomized PR incentivizes one of the routes. The first run featured scum!volxen making the case for pacifist being the best route for town while privately admitting otherwise, before going on to win the pacifist route. The second game featured PR!mastina making a post that seems intended to manipulate town into her PR's favored route The spared neighborhood is a sort of build-your-own masonry, and it can hide information from scum and be powerful. In the first run of the setup Elements conjectured chennisden might be a viable mislynch, but found out later chennisden had pretty effectively cleared his own slot in the privacy of the spared PT. Again, this "masonry" has NK immunity, but town has to pick out actual townies to put in it themselves. The amount of town agency involved in building the spared PT is another fascinating feature, sparing chennisden is considered a reason town almost won the first run of the setup, and failing to spare him for similar play in the second run of the setup was believed by some to be a reason the game was almost lost. Last, but definitely not least, presenting the opportunities to reach innocent verdicts or guilty verdicts side by side creates gameplay scenarios that I can't imagine paralleled in traditional mafia. The second run featured a death-lynch being lolhammered by a player who was very concerned about the accuracy of the heal-lynch and wanted to "counterwagon" it. Here are the pertinent posts: post 790 post 791 post 797 I became a first time mod after eleven years of staying away from it just because the concept behind this setup was so innovative and impressive. While I did some design work with regards to balance and did the modding here, I had absolutely no hand in the core innovation of sparing and endgame routes and there is no self-nom to this (note this is Mad Scientist, not Rube Goldberg).

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I was thinking the other day that the problem with trying to come up with modfather nom is the modding experiences I've liked haven't come from prolific mods and the prolific mods have let me down some.

Is this the problem behind the scummies lacking nominations where people think someone must be prolific in order to nominate them?

Because uhhh...nowhere in the scummies does it say a user must be prolific to receive a nom?

If you see something nomworthy, regardless of the user, then nom it. Doesn't matter if someone won Paragon last year, you can nom them again this year. Ditto don corelone. Similarly, you can nom someone as a rising star even if they've won one, or both, of paragon/don corelone at some point. And the vice-versa is true as well. Doesn't matter if they're a total unknown--if they do something which you think is award-worthy, then nominate it!

1. Yeah I was kind of thinking aloud "oh yeah maybe I should stop caring about prolific".
2. I feel positive RC is the Don Corleone of 2019 but he said he doesn't want to be in the pool of nomination because he's already won the award .

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Will he be barred from judging the category if he's nominated?
I'm guessing he'd vote "no" on his own DC.
I don't know how any of this works

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But then RC will be mad @ me and I like RC :/

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Should I decline the paperback nom and run for office of flavor judge so I have an excuse to read a bunch of flavor posts


DC is a body of work category RC is actively seeking to judge btw

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Do siteflaked users stay in consideration for things they got nommed for?

Instinctively I feel like they should.

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im sry o.k.

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I noticed a lot of people referring to Starry Night over and over again later in the year like it had become prominent in consciousness or something
I wasn't in gay dance or masquerade to know if they became even bigger
I can't really be the person to nom that game though I am maximum salt wounded

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Yes
RC gets Don Corleone every year
that's the universe I want to live in

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Don't ask how many paragons you don't wanna know

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You should link the third game.

RC's start in Magical Girls UPick was mislynch town, vig agreed with one of his reads and vigged scum, put town at L-1 day 2 but clear it because of the claim. I don't know how that is "RC had scum correctly pegged on day 1".

Oh maybe you flip flopped magia record and magical girls?

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It should say that instead, then, that's not an equivalent statement. They're both very positive statements. It's not necessary to exaggerate the truth to demonstrate you play well as town.

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How many nths does it take for a nomination to be in consideration?

Asking for a friend who wants to keep her support for RC paragon informal to better stay butthurt about losing a game.

But really I am kind of confused about the nthing dynamic since some categories like White Knight seem like they might not have enough people familiar with the performance to nth it even if it deserves to win, so I would hope they're not required, but Ali posted "bold your nths" a bunch of times so it must be important.

Are they used when a category gets crowded enough it'd be too much work to judge them all?

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Who are the judges?

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"Whatever they did, if they worked to improve the site

outside of the Mish Mash or Mafia forums

, this is where they belong."
Assuming "Mafia forums" means Road to Rome+Coney Island etc, Plotinus can only be judged for "how to setup and mod a game" thread for Community Contributor, not the act of modding a jillion newbies himself.

I would kind of rate all that modding as a community contribution, though, when good mods jam up the newbie queue it keeps, uh, less good mods out, probably the site retained 1-2 long term users from Plot modding instead of the generic replacement though you'd never be able to say which one. New users can be the most important. I think if my first game was modded as poorly as

Death List

I likely wouldn't be here, but since it was my 34th game it's not going to shake me away.

It is kind of a poor fit to modfather in the sense that there were no special considerations like heavy neighborhood management or setup design.

Can we make up an award called the Plotinus award and give it to Plotinus? Because I don't like either category >_<

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The OP should be updated with the new banners, Datisi did a really good job with them!

Ank won Starry Night and Guns and Roses one but I think there's too much focus on whether games were won or lost overall vs. playing well. I think playing well and losing should matter more than coasting to a win with weak play.

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ok pops
please give me games
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Do you mean games she played well even though she lost?
I don't really understand Ank's towngame and am not at the front of the line to nth it but I felt like I liked her play more in AvP than Starry Night.