Micro 890: CultD3 [Game Over; Korina Rules The World]

[ceejayvinoya]

Hey yall
I find this game quite boring
But why are you all ignoring Elsa?

Because the cold never bothered us anyway.

Why don't you say what you think is wrong with Elsa and then start a discussion?

[ceejayvinoya]

Why are you even replying to that and not my actual question

It was a valid question.

Why did you even state it then

[ceejayvinoya]

Who here has experience with cults?

I fail to see how useful this information would be to us.

[ceejayvinoya]

you

posted "i'll let you lead town because you have a lot of posts,"

NOT

me.

sigh.

But I didn't say she should lead town.

I said she was the de facto leader by nature of her post count.

Those aren't the same thing.

You're pretty much letting him lead.

It is the same thing.

[Pine]

Zzzzzzzz

Waiting for this to settle down and become interesting

[EspressoPatronum]

@Drew - recall the parameters I requested of you: No null reads, sort everyone.

Town
Chemist - I was initially wary about potential lurkiness, but he's really stepped up to my request. I find myself agreeing with most of his reads. He's proactively giving information instead of reactively waiting to be prodded.

Elsa Jay - I don't like that he revealed as UT, but he has a respectable stance as to why he did it + it seemed town motivated. He has also been very active.

Townlean
Gameplay - on memory alone, none of gameplay's posts stand out. I recall gameplay helping us out Elsa though, so that's worthwhile and shows town initiative to solve.

Chkflip - probably my weakest townread. Chk seems to be involved in discussion and questions though, so I'm happy with a weak townlean for now.

Scumlean
Ceejayvinoya - nothing really standout from ceejay. Not a lot of activity due to the late start. I recall ceejay's entrance being kinda meh, but I can't remember any of the posts off the top of my head.

Light and L - haven't seen much from Gamma, but I'm not liking chenn's content. Chenn started coming after me once I voted Drew. He was also twisting my words into conclusions that I did not make.

Pine - Pine has been a bit lurky this game. He did the same thing in Ruby Mafia. He did give us warning that he was busy with work in that game, but I don't think it detracts from his willingness to lurk as scum.

Scum
Doctor Drew - before I started prodding him, all of his posts looked like attempts to blend in. After prodding him, he's been extremely reluctant to provide reads, citing his reactive playstyle as the reason.

you

posted "i'll let you lead town because you have a lot of posts,"

NOT

me.

sigh.

But I didn't say she should lead town.

I said she was the de facto leader by nature of her post count.

Those aren't the same thing.

You're pretty much letting him lead.

It is the same thing.

Sorry but I have no intention to surpass his activity rn.

Since you're so critical of that, how about you try taking the lead?

[EspressoPatronum]

Whups, didn't mean to quote my whole reads list.

[EspressoPatronum]

Spoiler:

@Drew - recall the parameters I requested of you: No null reads, sort everyone.

Town
Chemist - I was initially wary about potential lurkiness, but he's really stepped up to my request. I find myself agreeing with most of his reads. He's proactively giving information instead of reactively waiting to be prodded.

Elsa Jay - I don't like that he revealed as UT, but he has a respectable stance as to why he did it + it seemed town motivated. He has also been very active.

Townlean
Gameplay - on memory alone, none of gameplay's posts stand out. I recall gameplay helping us out Elsa though, so that's worthwhile and shows town initiative to solve.

Chkflip - probably my weakest townread. Chk seems to be involved in discussion and questions though, so I'm happy with a weak townlean for now.

Scumlean
Ceejayvinoya - nothing really standout from ceejay. Not a lot of activity due to the late start. I recall ceejay's entrance being kinda meh, but I can't remember any of the posts off the top of my head.

Light and L - haven't seen much from Gamma, but I'm not liking chenn's content. Chenn started coming after me once I voted Drew. He was also twisting my words into conclusions that I did not make.

Pine - Pine has been a bit lurky this game. He did the same thing in Ruby Mafia. He did give us warning that he was busy with work in that game, but I don't think it detracts from his willingness to lurk as scum.

Scum
Doctor Drew - before I started prodding him, all of his posts looked like attempts to blend in. After prodding him, he's been extremely reluctant to provide reads, citing his reactive playstyle as the reason.

@Chenn

EP
Chemist
Elsa
Gameplay
Chk

Ceejay
LightL
Drew

Put simply, the list means this: I will lynch anyone at the bottom and nobody at the top.

I'm not pretending my reads are perfect. This is my perspective on the gamestate as it is rn + am happy to work with people to lynch my scum pool and solidify my town pool. If you're town, you should be willing to do the same.

[chkflip]

Who here has experience with cults?

I fail to see how useful this information would be to us.

I fail to see how, in a cult-based game, asking about people's experience with them isn't useful information to us. I've built three or four micros, a mini, a large theme that has completed and a large theme that I'm about to run. So when people say "that doesn't seem like a cult leader" or "how can we hunt cult leader instead of simply scum" I'd like to know where they're basing their opinion.

Crazy, I know.

[Gamma Emerald]

VLA For like 2 weeks, just got a concussion yesterday and need to do a brain break which includes reduced screentime

Noted.
-Kor

[Elsa Jay]

I've seen gamma and Chen post way more then their hydra. What fun.

[ceejayvinoya]

Sorry but I have no intention to surpass his activity rn.

Since you're so critical of that, how about you try taking the lead?

I was just surprised how apathetic you are towards his planned leadership.

I'm not asking you to take the reins and become leader, though the way you thought that interests me.

I'm asking why did you let him or why you didn't care. Though now that I'm thinking about it, it's not very important.

[ceejayvinoya]

Spoiler:

@Drew - recall the parameters I requested of you: No null reads, sort everyone.

Town
Chemist - I was initially wary about potential lurkiness, but he's really stepped up to my request. I find myself agreeing with most of his reads. He's proactively giving information instead of reactively waiting to be prodded.

Elsa Jay - I don't like that he revealed as UT, but he has a respectable stance as to why he did it + it seemed town motivated. He has also been very active.

Townlean
Gameplay - on memory alone, none of gameplay's posts stand out. I recall gameplay helping us out Elsa though, so that's worthwhile and shows town initiative to solve.

Chkflip - probably my weakest townread. Chk seems to be involved in discussion and questions though, so I'm happy with a weak townlean for now.

Scumlean
Ceejayvinoya - nothing really standout from ceejay. Not a lot of activity due to the late start. I recall ceejay's entrance being kinda meh, but I can't remember any of the posts off the top of my head.

Light and L - haven't seen much from Gamma, but I'm not liking chenn's content. Chenn started coming after me once I voted Drew. He was also twisting my words into conclusions that I did not make.

Pine - Pine has been a bit lurky this game. He did the same thing in Ruby Mafia. He did give us warning that he was busy with work in that game, but I don't think it detracts from his willingness to lurk as scum.

Scum
Doctor Drew - before I started prodding him, all of his posts looked like attempts to blend in. After prodding him, he's been extremely reluctant to provide reads, citing his reactive playstyle as the reason.

@Chenn

EP
Chemist
Elsa
Gameplay
Chk

Ceejay
LightL
Drew

Put simply, the list means this: I will lynch anyone at the bottom and nobody at the top.

I'm not pretending my reads are perfect. This is my perspective on the gamestate as it is rn + am happy to work with people to lynch my scum pool and solidify my town pool. If you're town, you should be willing to do the same.

This is a dumb question but are your reads open to change? Because you did not mention that.

[ceejayvinoya]

Who here has experience with cults?

I fail to see how useful this information would be to us.

I fail to see how, in a cult-based game, asking about people's experience with them isn't useful information to us. I've built three or four micros, a mini, a large theme that has completed and a large theme that I'm about to run. So when people say "that doesn't seem like a cult leader" or "how can we hunt cult leader instead of simply scum" I'd like to know where they're basing their opinion.

Crazy, I know.

I thought the role of cult leader was not complicated enough to affect its approach towards the game.

Simply put, I don't see how a cult leader would post differently from other people.

[ceejayvinoya]

Get well soon gamma. That sucks.

[Doctor Drew]

Who here has experience with cults?

I fail to see how useful this information would be to us.

I fail to see how, in a cult-based game, asking about people's experience with them isn't useful information to us. I've built three or four micros, a mini, a large theme that has completed and a large theme that I'm about to run. So when people say "that doesn't seem like a cult leader" or "how can we hunt cult leader instead of simply scum" I'd like to know where they're basing their opinion.

Crazy, I know.

I thought the role of cult leader was not complicated enough to affect its approach towards the game.

Simply put, I don't see how a cult leader would post differently from other people.

I disagree, and actually somewhat agree with Espresso here.

I would imagine cult leader would err on the side of lurky non-aggressiveness.....even if unconsciously done. This is why I do scum read Elsa a little, but not as cult leader.

Now that this game has had a couple days I believe(and I know no one has been crazy active) we need to focus more attention on those who have barely made an appearance.

Pine, never had the pleasure of playing with you. Instead of commenting how boring this game is, would you care to maybe makes things more interesting?

[EspressoPatronum]

Sorry but I have no intention to surpass his activity rn.

Since you're so critical of that, how about you try taking the lead?

I was just surprised how apathetic you are towards his planned leadership.

I'm not asking you to take the reins and become leader, though the way you thought that interests me.

I'm asking why did you let him or why you didn't care. Though now that I'm thinking about it, it's not very important.

You're probably right that it's not very important. I can't pass up a chance on a bit of theory though, so I'm diving in anyway.

First:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/dictionary ... h/de-facto

That link isn't meant to be patronizing or condescending in any way. I think the root of your problem with my post comes from how I used de facto, so I'm hoping the link puts us on the same page.

Imo, there isn't a decision for town leadership... it happens naturally when people start to take control of the conversation. I'm sure there are several ways to do this, but the most common (and probably easiest tbh) way of doing that is posting more than everyone else.

By posting more than everyone else, you can control the flow of the conversation. (Note - this is why some of the most dominant players post so much). If you looked to Elsa at the time of my de facto comment, you'd see that Else had 40ish posts when everyone else was at or below 20ish.

____

I liked your question regarding why I don't care about Elsa's plan for leadership. I'm not actually sure tbh. It's probably because I townread Elsa and I'm happy with my lynch pool.

[EspressoPatronum]

Spoiler:

@Drew - recall the parameters I requested of you: No null reads, sort everyone.

Town
Chemist - I was initially wary about potential lurkiness, but he's really stepped up to my request. I find myself agreeing with most of his reads. He's proactively giving information instead of reactively waiting to be prodded.

Elsa Jay - I don't like that he revealed as UT, but he has a respectable stance as to why he did it + it seemed town motivated. He has also been very active.

Townlean
Gameplay - on memory alone, none of gameplay's posts stand out. I recall gameplay helping us out Elsa though, so that's worthwhile and shows town initiative to solve.

Chkflip - probably my weakest townread. Chk seems to be involved in discussion and questions though, so I'm happy with a weak townlean for now.

Scumlean
Ceejayvinoya - nothing really standout from ceejay. Not a lot of activity due to the late start. I recall ceejay's entrance being kinda meh, but I can't remember any of the posts off the top of my head.

Light and L - haven't seen much from Gamma, but I'm not liking chenn's content. Chenn started coming after me once I voted Drew. He was also twisting my words into conclusions that I did not make.

Pine - Pine has been a bit lurky this game. He did the same thing in Ruby Mafia. He did give us warning that he was busy with work in that game, but I don't think it detracts from his willingness to lurk as scum.

Scum
Doctor Drew - before I started prodding him, all of his posts looked like attempts to blend in. After prodding him, he's been extremely reluctant to provide reads, citing his reactive playstyle as the reason.

@Chenn

EP
Chemist
Elsa
Gameplay
Chk

Ceejay
LightL
Drew

Put simply, the list means this: I will lynch anyone at the bottom and nobody at the top.

I'm not pretending my reads are perfect. This is my perspective on the gamestate as it is rn + am happy to work with people to lynch my scum pool and solidify my town pool. If you're town, you should be willing to do the same.

This is a dumb question but are your reads open to change? Because you did not mention that.

Yeah, they're always subject to change.

Fair question btw. I can see how 'solidify' gives the impression that they're not subject to change.

[Korina]

VOTE COUNT 1.4

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to lynch.

(expired on 2019-09-30 18:55:00) remain in the day.

Mod Notes

:
- Remember: Flavor is just flavor. Don't use it to make arguments.
- I will be shitposting flavor intermittently with the vote counts.
- If you want me to post non-paint VCs, please let me know.
- I'm also gonna change fonts for basically every vc until I get bored, and then switch back to comic sans.
-

What are your thoughts on a wingdings vc next?

- Upon further thought, using wingdings for a vc is technically encrypting the text, therefore I'm not gonna do it.

[Chemist1422]

VOTE COUNT 1.4

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to lynch.

(expired on 2019-09-30 18:55:00) remain in the day.

Mod Notes

:
- Remember: Flavor is just flavor. Don't use it to make arguments.
- I will be shitposting flavor intermittently with the vote counts.
- If you want me to post non-paint VCs, please let me know.
- I'm also gonna change fonts for basically every vc until I get bored, and then switch back to comic sans.
-

What are your thoughts on a wingdings vc next?

- Upon further thought, using wingdings for a vc is technically encrypting the text, therefore I'm not gonna do it.

[Light and L]

Spoiler:

@Drew - recall the parameters I requested of you: No null reads, sort everyone.

Town
Chemist - I was initially wary about potential lurkiness, but he's really stepped up to my request. I find myself agreeing with most of his reads. He's proactively giving information instead of reactively waiting to be prodded.

Elsa Jay - I don't like that he revealed as UT, but he has a respectable stance as to why he did it + it seemed town motivated. He has also been very active.

Townlean
Gameplay - on memory alone, none of gameplay's posts stand out. I recall gameplay helping us out Elsa though, so that's worthwhile and shows town initiative to solve.

Chkflip - probably my weakest townread. Chk seems to be involved in discussion and questions though, so I'm happy with a weak townlean for now.

Scumlean
Ceejayvinoya - nothing really standout from ceejay. Not a lot of activity due to the late start. I recall ceejay's entrance being kinda meh, but I can't remember any of the posts off the top of my head.

Light and L - haven't seen much from Gamma, but I'm not liking chenn's content. Chenn started coming after me once I voted Drew. He was also twisting my words into conclusions that I did not make.

Pine - Pine has been a bit lurky this game. He did the same thing in Ruby Mafia. He did give us warning that he was busy with work in that game, but I don't think it detracts from his willingness to lurk as scum.

Scum
Doctor Drew - before I started prodding him, all of his posts looked like attempts to blend in. After prodding him, he's been extremely reluctant to provide reads, citing his reactive playstyle as the reason.

@Chenn

EP
Chemist
Elsa
Gameplay
Chk

Ceejay
LightL
Drew

Put simply, the list means this: I will lynch anyone at the bottom and nobody at the top.

I'm not pretending my reads are perfect. This is my perspective on the gamestate as it is rn + am happy to work with people to lynch my scum pool and solidify my town pool. If you're town, you should be willing to do the same.

i'm not saying "what does your list mean" - i know how a list works.

i'm saying that a list obfuscates the

accuracy of your reads to everyone,

including yourself if you're town.

[Light and L]

your lynchpool consists of people who're telling you you're playing anti-town and your townreads on people are because they're entertaining your bullshit, espresso.

i dunno if it's because of the bastard element of this game or the fact that this setup is just for the lulz. but you're really fucking adamant about YOUR way of doing things and the type of content YOU want to see from people and you have a disgusting lynchpool that looks lazy, half-hearted, and scum motivated.

if you're town please take a step back, realize that though you may have good intentions you're leading town down a really bad path, and start playing with the nuance and good-will that i've seen in your other games.

[Chemist1422]

L+L I keep seeing you commenting on people leading town down a bad path

So what's the good path to lead them down?

[EspressoPatronum]

L+L I keep seeing you commenting on people leading town down a bad path

So what's the good path to lead them down?

+1+1+1+1+1
Bless you, Chemist.

[Light and L]

mafia is a game of dominoes. solve a few crucial slots, look at how they've approached other slots (and how other slots have approached them) and you've got a good portion of a gamesolve.

stressing on cult leader, shallow reads, forcing interactions, etc etc is distracting. we have one day to play this game of dominoes before the inherent mechanics of cults makes all our progress worthless. wasting your time on a lynchpool,

or even finding someone to vote,

does not help.

topple the dominoes.