Open 765: Haunted Village (Over)

[Something_Smart]

I don't think scum resorts to emotional outbursts like these.

If he thinks he'd do it as town, why not?

[Something_Smart]

Ech. RCE could be scum too.

[Vorkuta]

Ok Vork who are you proposing is scum in either scenario? Well mostly if you think he wasn't hammered because all scum was on board and they couldn't get town to push it through.

I legit don't know- I thought it was UiT based on how he jumped on and off the wagons at EoD1 but he responded quite townily when I pointed it out.

I'm tinfoil afraid of it being a coordinated thing from GE and OG-PP, especially considering that their presence D2 has been.... unimpressive.
However that would mean my core!townblock has been infiltrated and I don't like making such assumptions

[Vorkuta]

why not?

Because uh.... like....
Emotions and shit

I just think it's suboptimal and would be "below-the-belt" to pull this

[Something_Smart]

It's not below-the-belt to do something you'd do as town, as long as it's within the rules.

[Unstuck in Time]

@Vork - how well would you rate your ability to read Chennis?

BP

0- I've mentioned several times that I'm used to a very passive/lurky/"doesn't leave too much of an impression/"mod-prod-him-already" Chenny
This Chen (by own announcement) is power-playing in this game so that's new to me.

I'm reading him based on what I think scum-optimal play would be- not chen-specific mafia play

I think that was genuine and outside his scum range

I don't, why?

I don't think scum resorts to emotional outbursts like these. It was quite heated at the moment.
Let me put it like this: if chen does flip scum after that, I will lose a lot of respect for him considering the shit he staged.

So when you said it was outside his scum range is that because you think in general he's a good player? I'm just confused by your word choice of outside his scum range then saying that the read was based on optimal scum play.

BP

[Vorkuta]

It's not below-the-belt to do something you'd do as town, as long as it's within the rules.

Still feels really icky.
Like I've played with A50 so I know where the line is and what happens when it's crossed, but my personal read on Chenny is that he won't pull this as scum

So when you said it was outside his scum range is that because you think in general he's a good player? I'm just confused by your word choice of outside his scum range then saying that the read was based on optimal scum play.

I think he's a solid player with a bag of tricks for each alignment.
I BOTH think that his outburst
-is suboptimal for any scum!player
-chenny doesn't have this move in his scum!repertoire

[Baezu]

Vote Count 2.4

With 10 players it takes 6 to lynch

Platinum Phoenix (5) L-1 ~

Unstuck in Time, Something_Smart, PenguinPower, norwegianboyEE, RCEnigma

NaCl (2) ~

Hoptic, Vorkuta

Unstuck in Time (1) ~

Platinum Phoenix

norwegianboyEE (1) ~

NaCl

not voting (1) ~

Gamma Emerald

Mod Notes

Gamma Emerald V/LA indefinitely.

deadline:

(expired on 2019-09-30 08:55:00)

[Vorkuta]

*sighs*

fake-PP

, please claim ur shit

[NorwegianboyEE]

I thought a L-1 would re-energize the town. But apparently not.

[Platinum Phoenix]

vt

norwegian is scum

S_S is scum

look at PP and vork

cya

[Something_Smart]

S_S is scum

u w0t m8?

[Platinum Phoenix]

also GE is town

[Platinum Phoenix]

hi opportunistic, im chennis

[Something_Smart]

You think I killed Beta after 1375?

[Something_Smart]

Also you literally weren't a wagon until I voted you. How's that opportunistic?

[Platinum Phoenix]

a wagon does not consist only of votes

smarty you should know this. that took me 5 seconds to type it should not be that hard

[Something_Smart]

...I've never heard that before. Maybe we're using the terms to mean different things.

I'm using it to mean "a bunch of people all voting for the same player," which as far as I know is the only way it is used.

[Platinum Phoenix]

im using it to mean "the concerted and deliberate effort to get someone lynched."

[Platinum Phoenix]

and this can mean a bunch of townies going "yeah he needs to die, he's scum" or it could be scum manipulating the gamestate so someone gets lynched. and i think it's the latter.

[Platinum Phoenix]

the wagon on me mysteriously disappears D1, then it reappears D2. and both times it was with norwegian

[NaCl]

Eh, I'm kind of changing my mind on Norwegian now, starting to have doubts.

Because if he's scum and you're town, why would he get back on the wagon? I mean, he didn't give a reason...let's see, if you're scum then it's still RCE who's one of your scumbuddies.

But if you're town, does scum need to push you up here right now, with so much time remaining on the clock? I would think they could be more cautious...if a counterwagon isn't forming, what would their advantage be to push you up so early?

Ugh, but now I'm having second thoughts. Because there is scum on the wagon if you're town. And Norwegian is my highest suspect on that. Could be green-PP.

S_S hasn't really given a reason, but the point about Beta Sapphire is something. And as for UiT, I agree with what RCE said earlier, that he could have gone after you yesterday instead.

[chennisden]

You think I killed Beta after 1375?

This isnt how town thinks

[Something_Smart]

Sure it is. If someone dies, in the absence of PR bullshit, people they were strongly townreading probably didn't kill them.

The fact that their strong townread was me was not what spurred me to connect this logic; it is logic that should be done anyway, and in this case it happens to correctly point toward me being town.

[Something_Smart]

Could this be a scum slip? Undertale is the only game I've played with ss so saying from that game he thinks I play the same as either alignment he must have a town game of mine to compare it to ie this game where scum!ss knows I'm town.
- Phoenix

Okay mini 2099 is over so I don't have to pretend to have no response to this anymore. Obviously you knew I read you correctly in that game so why would you post this?