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Post Post #194 (isolation #0) » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:34 am

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/in but give me a sec I have to catch up
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Post Post #195 (isolation #1) » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:16 am

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VOTE: Yea P009
VOTE: No P017
VOTE: Yea P025
VOTE: No P026
VOTE: No P027 The only way you're getting me to vote for a currency is if it does something and doesn't just exist to exist.
VOTE: No P028
VOTE: Yea P029
VOTE: Yea P030
VOTE: Yea P032
VOTE: No P033

I apologize for the computer logic.

P034: Lists now exist. Players may create or remove lists using proposals, or alter lists using motions and/or proposals.

P035:
Clause 1: Creates the Yea and Nay lists.
Clause 2: Any word or tag on the Yea list means "Yea", and any word or tag on the Nay list means "Nay".

P036:
Clause 1: Creates the Inactive Proposal List and Active Proposal List.
Clause 2: Any proposal not on the Inactive Proposal List is considered to be on the Active Proposal List.
Clause 3: Proposals, once on the Active Proposal List, cannot be put on the Inactive Proposal List.
Clause 4: Any proposal on the Inactive Proposal List is inactive. Any proposal on the Active Proposal List is active.
Clause 5: Inactive proposals cannot be voted on, only be debated and altered.
Clause 6: Active proposals cannot be altered, only debated and voted on.

P037: Amend P031 to say: "1a. All proposals
on the Active Proposal List
will have a time limit of 96 hours. If the 96 hours elapse and a decision has not been reached on the proposal, it will fail. 1b. If more time to decide on a bill is deemed necessary, any player may motion to extend the time limit. 2. Each player is limited to one current active or inactive proposal. They must either retract it or wait until is passes or fails to create a new one.
In addition, the total player body is only allowed to have seven proposals active at a time. Any proposals created beyond this threshold are automatically placed on the inactive proposal list.
"

A summary:
P034 allows for lists of information, that other rules can reference.
P035 allows for the use of alternate tags or words when voting, as allowed by the player body.
P036/P037 allows us to put ideas on the floor for debate while not having to vote for them and allows us to hammer out the kinks in the issues rather than just saying, "no, I don't like that." Then, when we have it worked out to a place where we like it, we can put it up for vote OR if we can't make it work we just retract it. Also provides for extremely large bodies; We are at 9 now so I think some way to further limit how many proposals are actively being voted on would be a good idea, just to limit how much crazy is going on. Note that the amendment says you can only have one proposal total, active or inactive. It is only the total number of ACTIVE proposals that is limited by this.
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Post Post #196 (isolation #2) » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:18 am

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And yes, I am aware the other three proposals *technically* can't exist or be voted upon yet, I'm just spitballing. I am only officially proposing P034. The rest are for your future consideration.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #3) » Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:30 am

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VOTE: Nay P035
Why you trying to obsolete my thing mate?
Besides, adding an extra thread will make it too hard to keep track of things
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Post Post #207 (isolation #4) » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:40 am

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Oh
Correcting my vote.
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Post Post #209 (isolation #5) » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:30 pm

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It's actually 4 different proposals.
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Post Post #211 (isolation #6) » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:36 pm

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Things being able to go through review is the eventual plan, yes.
I'm just doing it in smaller chunks so that we have structural stuff separate from the other stuff.
I'm not sure what good a "committee" would do us though. How would that work exactly? Is there even any structure in place for a committee?
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Post Post #213 (isolation #7) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:25 am

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We need an inactivity rule.
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Post Post #229 (isolation #8) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:24 pm

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Only P034 is on the table.
Would you like to vote for that, Skitter?
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Post Post #233 (isolation #9) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:40 pm

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Thank you, Skitter. Your vote is welcome and appreciated.
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Post Post #238 (isolation #10) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:06 am

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I just read R308
I motion to place the following in front of the body:

P036:
Clause 1: Creates the Yea and Nay lists.
Clause 2: Any word or tag on the Yea list means "Yea", and any word or tag on the Nay list means "Nay".

P037:
Clause 1: Creates the Inactive Proposal List and Active Proposal List.
Clause 2: Any proposal not on the Inactive Proposal List is considered to be on the Active Proposal List.
Clause 3: Proposals, once on the Active Proposal List, cannot be put on the Inactive Proposal List.
Clause 4: Any proposal on the Inactive Proposal List is inactive. Any proposal on the Active Proposal List is active.
Clause 5: Inactive proposals cannot be voted on, only be debated and altered.
Clause 6: Active proposals cannot be altered, only debated and voted on.

P038: Amend P031 to say: "1a. All proposals on the Active Proposal List will have a time limit of 96 hours. If the 96 hours elapse and a decision has not been reached on the proposal, it will fail. 1b. If more time to decide on a bill is deemed necessary, any player may motion to extend the time limit. 2. Each player is limited to one current active or inactive proposal. They must either retract it or wait until is passes or fails to create a new one. In addition, the total player body is only allowed to have seven proposals active at a time. Any proposals created beyond this threshold are automatically placed on the inactive proposal list."
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Post Post #240 (isolation #11) » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:28 am

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@Charles, you may want to vote for P034, as all of these are null and void without that particular proposition.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #12) » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:15 am

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Wahoo!
36-38 are also now available for vote, per my motion.
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Post Post #253 (isolation #13) » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:08 am

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We only need 1 more vote for 036-038 to pass
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Post Post #256 (isolation #14) » Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:28 am

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All players need to be able to update the wiki before I vote yes on this.
Once that happens, I’m in full support.
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Post Post #259 (isolation #15) » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:09 am

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I can’t.
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Post Post #261 (isolation #16) » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:01 am

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You is right. We're good.
VOTE: Yea P039
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Post Post #263 (isolation #17) » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:05 am

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Wiki updated.
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Post Post #265 (isolation #18) » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:10 am

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What did I mess up?
All I did was add your and my proposals.
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Post Post #267 (isolation #19) » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:04 am

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I *think* I fixed it. If there is something else missing let me know.
That should be reflected in your proposal, that the update has to be accurate at the time of the update.
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Post Post #271 (isolation #20) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:28 am

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Hell no I am here
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Post Post #282 (isolation #21) » Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:01 am

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Whoa.
If we have 8 active players, that means anything with 4 or more votes one way passes/fails
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Post Post #285 (isolation #22) » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:32 am

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Oh :P
I'm a stupid
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Post Post #288 (isolation #23) » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:06 am

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On it right now.
P009 fails.
P026 passes.
P030 passes
P033 passes.
P036-38 pass.

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Post Post #289 (isolation #24) » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:12 am

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Updated.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #25) » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:11 am

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P039:
Creates a Market list. Things can be bought at the market for Charlestons, by using a motion to place said thing on the list. Price must be included in the motion.
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Post Post #294 (isolation #26) » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:32 am

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Updated.
I award myself 2 Charlestons.
I have two Charlestons.
Perhaps there should be something noting this?
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Post Post #299 (isolation #27) » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:27 am

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VOTE: 41 Hell Freaking no
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Post Post #300 (isolation #28) » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:28 am

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Convince me on 40
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Post Post #310 (isolation #29) » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:39 pm

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VOTE: P040 Yes
Valid. Once we have an executive, we need to be able to elect him. Start working on that proposal and put it on the inactive list, so we can debate it?
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Post Post #312 (isolation #30) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:20 am

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I motion to extend voting on P040 by a week from today.
P040 dies on the floor due to not enough votes, along with pretty much anything else except P039, which passed.
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