Micro 892: TemporalLich's Micro Normal [Game Over]

[TemporalLich]

VC 1.8

Iconeum (2) - Chemist1422, Bellaphant
Chemist1422 (2) - Locke113, Dongempire
Dongempire (1) - Menalque
Bellaphant (1) - Iconeum

Not voting: Vex Vience, Datisi, Klick

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-10-01 15:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

Menalque is V/LA until Wednesday evening.

As a reminder, remember that this is a game.

[Bellaphant]

UNVOTE:

Yeah, I just had the same thought process as klick

[Menalque]

UNVOTE:

Your play still sucks but I guess this does explain why you were behaving so flagrantly scummy without giving a shit

@locke it doesn’t work because the masons are conf town so they’ll be killed tonight and tomorrow

So if they were both alive by lylo you’d know that they were scum p much

I guess theoretically actual scum could not NK them in the hopes that they get through to 5p lylo and then try to sway the masons onto the other remaining townie but it’s a very, very long shot and if the scum get lynched on D1 or D2 before that then they have to start killing the masons or they’re at a major disadvantage in 3p lylo

[Donempire]

No apologies necessary

[Locke113]

fair enough, figured it wouldn't be a smart idea but couldn't help but wonder if its been tried before

[Menalque]

I need to reread/re-evaluate this whole game

I’m sorry it got as fired up as it did but I maintain that I don’t think I was misrepping you/setting up traps for you etc and I don’t see how you got there from my play.

Like I said I need to reread but if you wanna talk about it now that also works

[Klick]

If it's any consolation, I think you come out of the exchange looking fairly towny and we can now move on and lynch actual scum

[Donempire]

Kill me

[Klick]

If Heaven is scum, when is a more appropriate time to lynch them?
If Heaven is town and continues at this level of activity, how are we going to avoid mislynching them later?

I think Menalque is trying to control the narrative of the game in a way that is NAI at the moment. I felt a bit odd early on about him shutting down my Datisi townread, but his explanation for it was reasonable and I can see it coming from town. His push on you is logical. Overall he's giving lots of content we can use to help read him later on, and I don't have sufficient reason to want to lynch him today.

Curious about what you think I was doing up to that point that was trying to control the game narrative, particularly compared to others. Like I haven’t had enough time to post here to really try and control the narrative I don’t think.

Early on you tried to talk me down from an early solid TR on Datisi. And I'd consider your Dong vote/reasoning the only solid push in the game up to that point.
A fair bit of it is probably just my perspective, though - I get the vibe from reading your posts that you're more of a leader than others, particularly in this game. Regardless of whether that's something you're trying to do or not.

[Klick]

Chemist, how am I supposed to read you? Because I legit can't see a difference between this game and Ruby.

[Menalque]

If Heaven is scum, when is a more appropriate time to lynch them?
If Heaven is town and continues at this level of activity, how are we going to avoid mislynching them later?

I think Menalque is trying to control the narrative of the game in a way that is NAI at the moment. I felt a bit odd early on about him shutting down my Datisi townread, but his explanation for it was reasonable and I can see it coming from town. His push on you is logical. Overall he's giving lots of content we can use to help read him later on, and I don't have sufficient reason to want to lynch him today.

Curious about what you think I was doing up to that point that was trying to control the game narrative, particularly compared to others. Like I haven’t had enough time to post here to really try and control the narrative I don’t think.

Early on you tried to talk me down from an early solid TR on Datisi. And I'd consider your Dong vote/reasoning the only solid push in the game up to that point.
A fair bit of it is probably just my perspective, though - I get the vibe from reading your posts that you're more of a leader than others, particularly in this game. Regardless of whether that's something you're trying to do or not.

Someone once told me that if the lynch is on somewhere other than where you’re voting at the EoD then you did your job wrong as town or as scum

Now, I’ve done my job wrong plenty as both according to that criteria, but I always try to make sure the lynch is where I want it to be regardless of alignment. Based on recent feedback (newbie 1951 I think, maybe 1953) I am trying to get better at compromising when needed, but that behaviour is still there. If that’s trying to control the gamestate/frame the narrative then yes, I absolutely do that

I also think datisi is much townier now based on her continued efforts to solve, I just didn’t like how early she was being placed as town when I think she’s very good at making early town-sounding content earlier in the game. I think she struggles to keep that up as well as time goes on, I just didn’t see it last game because I was tunnelled and then dead. Although like I said, I need to reread everyone this game, including you klick

[Chemist1422]

hold up we have HOW much longer

crap uh

VOTE: VV

I don't really know where else to go and it feels like they weren't pushing their reads and were going with the flow more than I'm comfortable with

[TemporalLich]

Due to site issues, the deadline has been extended by a day.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-10-02 15:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

[Donempire]

Just let this day end please

[Iconeum]

I’m a little bit done with being the go-to D1 lynch tbh

VOTE: icon

I feel like they’ve been very overdefensive all game. I’ll have to go meta them to see about Klick’s point about the empty reads tho

Can you at least show where you think i was overdefensive?

This wagon on me is incredibly lazy and everyone knows it but no one wants to admit it

Do you consider your wagoning of me high effort opposed to being incredibly lazy?

Alright im claiming town masons with ico.

UNVOTE:

ico confirm please

It's almost true

UNVOTE:

okay so it's this kind of game lol

ftr i fully believe that claim because of

reasons

UNVOTE:

Yeah that's what I was pointing to. I thought in a game with masons, lovers weren't terribly far fetched. I still believe there's other masons out there for what it's worth. Or people with a PT other then scum at least.

Full disclosure: I'm in a PT with Dong, NOT confirmed town

Sorry bro there's no reason to lie about this. There's a decent chance Dong is just scum for the simple reason of overly townreading me despite not actually being confirmed in PT by power role. It feels very pockety, but I didn't wanna persue that on D1.

Allow me to be the lightning rod for N1 actions. My role PM description didn't end when it said I was in a PT.

[Iconeum]

VOTE: menalq

Dong isn't inherently scum for claiming what he did, he even talked about it in the PT. However, the single easiest way to see if he's scum or not is lynch Menalque

[Datisi]

It's almost true

...what?

Full disclosure: I'm in a PT with Dong, NOT confirmed town

...what?

VOTE: Dong

Dong isn't inherently scum for claiming what he did, he even talked about it in the PT. However, the single easiest way to see if he's scum or not is lynch Menalque

He did? And if Mena flipped Town (which I rn think is more likely), how would that confirm Dong?

[Donempire]

Yeah at least now i know icon is certainly town. Im fine with getting lynched today.

[Donempire]

Also its kind of a reason ive been trying to end the day early.
Whatever, i hope this gave you enough information. I talked with ico about a scenario like this and im happy i wasnt wrong about my townread.
You'll see what i actually am once i flip, and you'll see why i didnt hesitate for a moment to claim mason.
VOTE: Dong

[Bellaphant]

Sorry, were you trying to get yourself lynched in your chats with menalq?

I hate chemists latest post, it feels incredibly fake. And bothers BN me for -reasons-. I want to leave the dong/icon nonsense for tomorrow and just lynch probable scum, instead of messy.

[Bellaphant]

VOTE: Chemist

[Bellaphant]

For clarity - Unsure what 'bn' is doing in that post. Also, my -reasons- aren't the same as icons.

[Klick]

...

Tbh I think Icon is the type of player who would just roll with it and not kill Dong at night if he were scum here. Not certain on that but I guess I'll leave this bullshit for tomorrow.

I'm around basically all day to place a vote but idk what I want to do with it yet.

[Vex Vience]

chemists vote on me is bad.
im fine with lynching dong, however, site issues might just slow down stuff even further.

VOTE: dong

L-1

[Chemist1422]

Yeah uh

What