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I will probably crumb something but in a very subtle way
I think after last game you could also 100% get away with claiming to have neighbouriser me later
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Lmao what happened? Also yes I am a basic goonIn post 11, Datisi wrote:Oh yeah I think I played once with Chem but we don't talk about that game- Menalque
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I mean I think you can crumb anything if you’re smart enough about it
So long as it’s well done then I don’t think town are liable to notice what’s being done , and they’ll prob miss crumbs for anything else
So you could crumb multiple things so long as it flows naturally or is well hidden
Worst case scenario if town notices two crumbs then you either outright declare you wanted to fakeclaim omas a gambit or you claim coincidence- Menalque
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I’m wondering if they have an existing neighbourhood at start of day or just a neighboriser or both
I think we might be able to spot the neighbours in which case we probably wanna kill them unless we get added because I think people in neighbourhoods do tend towards TLs on each other
So if we’re in the neighbourhood it’s beneficial but if we’re not then it’ll prob be a bit harder to get either person to lynch the other
That also makes me think that again, unless we get added, it’s prob easiest if you just crumb neighbour enabler (prob just enough to crumb something to do with neighbourhoods, I think town would not wanna make it overly obvious what their specific role was, so they’d allude to the general power but maybe not the enabler part)
Or you could crumb something to do with neighbourhoods somewhere and something to do with enabling elsewhere- Menalque
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I think neighbour hunting is a good move because if we think their game is weak we might just wanna try to keep them alive, kill off more confident players and then bring someone unsure into 5p lylo and try to get them to vote the others first
But again, that would be win or lose because a flip in 5p lylo basically confirms the others
So I would lean towards neighbour hunt and then kill
I think town may be pretty low on power based on our lack of power
And I think that our long term gameplan is probably similar to the one from you and korina: to set the associatives so that if I take a lot of heat setting a particular mislynch then you’re in a position to win for us in 3p- Menalque
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I mean only if we think we won’t win the 5p lylo outright
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In post 13, Datisi wrote:Also if I'm gonna be fakeclaiming i need to set up some stupid crumbs because Icon knows how much I love stupid crumbs
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I mean I don’t know anyone by reputation so I’m not overly worried about that?In post 39, Datisi wrote:I'm actually pretty nervous because these seem like good players? But that probably means they can smell fear and that is bad
Plus we have two players who are known for being mislynchable/lazy so that seems like a good start- Menalque
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So RVS: there can be people thinking that buddies might to soft distancing early on so that’s a mild risk
But I tend to RVS whoever I like the most/have the best chemistry with unless I think of a joke
Tbf i have a good (read: incredibly bad) one for icon and I’ve also played with him so I might use that again if you’d prefer
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Yeah I like this if you can keep the posts sounding natural m, which I think you csnIn post 49, Datisi wrote:Tbh I was just thinking of like... Spelling you the word "neighbor" in like... The firat letter of the last word of my posts
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See, the thing is this is almost certainly what I’d do as townIn post 48, Datisi wrote:Like if you were planning on saying something like "haha datisi are you scum again" I'd rather not
But if referencing past games is your thing and not doing that would be even more sus then do it
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So, I don’t think trying to form a townbloc is a good idea because I think they tend much more to just emerge naturally
If we both do a good job and wanna avoid bussing an dfocus on scumhunting then one may very well emerge
But I think trying to curate the creation of a townbloc is something that is often scum read, certainly it’s something that would ping me- Menalque
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Also, idk if you know this but it’s prob best to avoid nullreading each other as much as possible
So put me towards the top of your townreads or the bottom of your scumreads once there’s some content but don’t pop me in the middle
I think people tend towards scunreading me early game then shift to TRing me as time goes on/as I effort the game more, if you wanna know what I think typical town trajectories are on me when I’m town- Menalque
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Last game I was particularly towny from early on imo, because I was pushed into being towny from early due to korina’s bad faith push
If there’s no pressure I normally just start off shitpsiting a bit then doing reads without loads of explanation and when pressure comes finally towning it up a lot
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This is the goalIn post 80, Datisi wrote:*make one post*
"oh god theyknow"
Also, you think we'll have the Mafia PT longer than the main game this time?- Menalque
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It’s weird, like when I started I really wanted to roll scum because I liked the idea of fooling people and not having the stress of trying to solve because I already had all the infoIn post 98, Datisi wrote:
Awwww I missed this the first timeIn post 90, Menalque wrote:I think the only thing that’s gonna keep me energised this game will be you
I'm sorry if you don't like playing scum, but I'll try my best to keep thr spirits up at least
But now that it’s been a few months I don’t really enjoy misrepping people I like/respect which makes it a lot harder for me to be scum, and although I’m still not what I’d consider a ‘good’ player I do think my ability to read has improved a lot and so I enjoy trying to solve a lot more — like there was a point where I didn’t understand people who said their favourite role is VT but now I totally do, as that means you can just focus on trying to figure out the game and don’t have to think nearly as much about your own behaviour and how it’s coming across- Menalque
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I don’t think the spotlight is on you so much as it’s on people reading you, so klick and ico
Let’s try to keep it there, discuss ico a bit more
Chem is unlikely to do that much (sorry if you’re reading this chem, but you know it’s true) on D1 so he’s a good option for a compromise lynch if no one is standing out as a good lynch target later in the day
Right now my thoughts are that klick/bella might be good options for that
Dong seems competent from initial impressions, good nk probably, although I think icon may well have softed neighbour/neighbouriser so if that’s true then we probably just kill him N1?- Menalque
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.....maybeIn post 108, Datisi wrote:I don't trust myself tho
Also are you confusing friendly neighbor with loyal neighbouriser?
I’m really bad at remembering what roles do okay, don’t judge me
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I think chem mindmelding me is quite natural, I think my thoughts on you/klick/ico are a good imitation of where my hea would be at as town so I can see chem having similar thoughts and thinking he’s mindmelding me based on that
But is also let’s me push being worried about him buddying me later if I want to, which is useful- Menalque
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Checking in real fast before I go to a movie, haven’t read the main thread
I think one thing we need to think about is lylo. I think a long term game plan is important, and we should work towards that. So we pick a townie who we think will vote another townie in lylo and then our entire game is getting to lylo with both of them there with us
That then dictates NKs, actions in thread etc
So if one good option is to bring one of klick/Bella to lylo, and we think song might vote them, then the play is to subtle buddy dong during D1 and 2 and push lynched on people who aren’t contributing
I’m not 100% that’s the plan, but I certainly think it’s viable.
As the thread picks up, we should figure out where we ideally wanna go long term tho, and then drive the game that direction. Of course, no guarantees, because mechanical stuff can always screw us, maybe we can’t get the lynches we want, but I still think win percentage goes way up when you know where you’re going and everything you do in thread is aimed toward that goal - Menalque
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