Micro 892: TemporalLich's Micro Normal [Game Over]

[TemporalLich]

VC 2.7

Vex Vience (3) - Saudade, Klick, Iconeum

[L-2]

Saudade (2) - Vex Vience, Menalque

Not voting: Bellaphant, Datisi, Dongempire

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2019-10-11 11:05:00) or when a lynch is reached.

[Iconeum]

I think I prefer this but I need to do rereads too

VOTE: saudade

why is saudude better? gotten to reread yet?

why is vex a bad lynch?

[Saudade]

Idk man i was puzzled too

[Saudade]

Still waiting on that beautiful saudade case from vex which is totally not fabricated and forced

[Datisi]

This feels... wrong. I'm not sure if scum!Vex basically gives up this easily, he wasn't playing like this in our game together.
VOTE: Saudade

[Iconeum]

ok datisi fair enough

and why is saud scum?

[Datisi]

At this point, PoE? Like if it's between Sau and Vex, I think Sau has better odds of flipping Red

[Klick]

I think Vex's current level of effort is NAI - he's already said he has something more important that he's paying attention to over this for right now.

[Saudade]

Datisi with the fear lynch teeheee

[Iconeum]

At this point, PoE? Like if it's between Sau and Vex, I think Sau has better odds of flipping Red

why

[Iconeum]

I think Vex's current level of effort is NAI - he's already said he has something more important that he's paying attention to over this for right now.

can you talk about the AI stuff then? Like his terrible readslist i quoted a while back?

[Datisi]

At this point, PoE? Like if it's between Sau and Vex, I think Sau has better odds of flipping Red

why

because it just feels off. scum!Vex jumps on any opportunity to argue with people/start a 1v1. he enjoys it. him barely even addressing your attack is not giving me a good vibe about his flip

[Iconeum]

So you think he's town despite him literally saying you are playing to your scum meta from previous game and still town binning you?

That's a town conclusion?

[Klick]

I struggle with obtaining a non-PoE read on Vex. I think I just struggle with obtaining *scumreads* in general (see last game lmao). Vex/Korina plays significantly differently from the average site user that I don't really know how to go about reading him on his own.

That being said, the one thing that's really pinged me about Vex was his lazy Dong vote at the end of D1. I originally let it pass as something he did because he thought there were only a few hours left before deadline, but then he argued for it. The reasons he used felt super baseline in a way that seemed like he hadn't actually thought about whether what he saw made Dong scum.

PEdit: Datisi, do you think if Vex is scum in this situation but also super busy with a group project, he's more likely to ignore his project to engage with the game than if he was town?

[Iconeum]

i mean i don't have a strong townread on Saud so I don't really feel like stopping his lynch but you guys are ignoring Vex i think

[Donempire]

Fuck it

[Klick]

{myself}

{mena}

{datisi, bella}

{dong, chem, klick}

- Null

{ico}

{locke}

{}

heres where im at with reading. ill post my catchup in a bit, but:
mena seems townie from the last game we played.
datisi seems townie, but i cant shake the feeling that datisi is playing scum like last game
bella i came around to tring later
dong ive been shifting reads on, and im currently leaning null-town
chem i cant read in general, kinda thinking hes town-ish.
klick im hovering around null on. im not really getting pinged strongly one way or another
ico pinged me as scummy early on and with them just lurking now it hasn't really changed
locke i need to read more deeply, but at the surface, its pinging me as scummy.
im obviously

town

cult.

Can we also talk about this readslist? It's actually kinda bad...

Puts Datisi on top of townlist DESPITE Datisi 'playing scum like last game'??
Hedging reads on Dong and Klick
He can't read chemist but still, townread.

Incredibly surface level reads all over, with not a single one explained how he got there.

He also put both myself and then Dong back to back to L-1...

Vex, what was scummy about Locke (your D1 scumread that you never voted), and your D2 scumread in Saudude?

Tbf Vex did say his Chemist townlean was for reasons he couldn't talk about.
But the surface-level feeling you're seeing is kinda similar to what I saw towards the end of D1 with his Dong vote. Not exactly the same, but similar.

[Donempire]

Heres the plan: we abandon both vex and saudade wagons, give saud more time to play the game as i was townreading locke spot, i make a case on menalque, we close the book on that chapter. Townbloc, what are your thoughts?

[Datisi]

I kinda read it as "a cautious Townlean"? Like - they think I'm Town, but are aware that scum!Datisi is potentially able to fake that? I'd kinda found it more concerning if they busted in with a strong TR on me.

PEdit: Datisi, do you think if Vex is scum in this situation but also super busy with a group project, he's more likely to ignore his project to engage with the game than if he was town?

Uhhh... I would say yes, honestly. Though I'm not sure how likely that is in the first place.

I know he has playstyle differences/alignment preferences between the two accounts, but I just struggle to see scum!him be

this

passive.

[Iconeum]

give saud more time to play the game

have you played with saudude before?

[Menalque]

I think I prefer this but I need to do rereads too

VOTE: saudade

why is saudude better? gotten to reread yet?

why is vex a bad lynch?

VV felt like he was making a good faith effort to interact with me earlier in day

sau just hasn't really done anything

haven't reread yet idk if I'll get to. I mean I'll compromise on VV if you don't think sau!scum is likely, but I kinda still feel like that's happened too easily without anyone arguing for why it's specifically sau/VV rather than possibly klick/VV or klick/sau

[Menalque]

well, other than klick but that doesn't exactly help

[Saudade]

Im not going to abandon my vote

[Menalque]

I think Vex's current level of effort is NAI - he's already said he has something more important that he's paying attention to over this for right now.

can you talk about the AI stuff then? Like his terrible readslist i quoted a while back?

the one where he included you at the bottom? I don't think that's a scum!VV mood

like, this is the account he plays more seriously on, so I kinda don't think that's him memeing and I don't think vulnerable scum!him fucks up that badly bc he prefers scum from what I remember and probs puts more effort in bc of that

[Saudade]

Im also not in the mood to tutor players this game so you guys will have to get good by yourselves