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Mini Theme 2103 - E Bastard

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:25 am

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Not Known 15 wrote:
Welcome to my Mini Theme.

Rules:
1.Follow the Site Rules. This includes not talking about ongoing games.
2.You may have access to private threads (e.g. Mafia factional chat); you can talk about this game there, but you may not quote anything from them outside of the PT. You may not quote any game-related PMs without express permission by your game mod.
3.Play to win this game.
4.Lurking: You will be prodded after 2 days of no substantial contribution(no prod dodging). After 24 hours of an unanswered prod I will search for a replacement(unless V/LA). Four prods in total, or two prods in one day will result in an instant replacement. ASK FOR REPLACEMENT IN A PM.
5.Vacation/Limited Access: Tell me when you are going to have limited access. If you have limited access, you will still count as having a prod after 3 days, and you will be instantly replaced after 5 days in total.
6.Weekend: For the purposes of prods and nights, Sunday and Saturday count as 12 hours each.
7.CHEATING:Cheating(breaking site rules, posting while dead, quoting Role PM's without explicit permission, encrypting posts without explicit permission, editing/deleting posts without explicit permission) is forbidden. Don't do it.
Setup information:

8.Maximum length of day phases:7 days
9.Maximum length of nights: 2 days

10. Lynching:After 24 hours or more of the current day have passed everyone who has more than 50% of votes against them will get lynched. If the day ends without a majority lynch and at least two votes are currently on at least one person, then the person with the most votes - ties being resolved randomly - will be lynched. Otherwise, at the end of the day a random townie gets lynched. LINK TO CLARIFICATION POST

11:Hammer:As soon as the required number of people for a Lynch is reached, the game descends into Twilight.
12:Twilight:Alive people, including the hammered lynch target, may continue to post until the flip.
13:Flip: After the flip, if there is no one to replace, the game descends into Night.
If there is a replacement, the game will be locked(do not post). The game descends into Night after the lynch.
14:Daychat: Every evil faction has daychat.
15:Natural Action Resolution applies. Same priority cycles are resolved by making all actions of the same priority fail(e.g.Roleblocker vs Roleblocker, only both roleblocks fail).
16:Color and Vanilla Role PM:

Vanilla TownieYou have no special abilities

Win Condition:Remove all threats to the Town.

This is my ordinary mod color: #BF8080 . Do not use it.
This is the Text of Truth color: #0000FF . Do not use it.
Anything written in the Text of Truth color is guranteed to be correct unless I make a mistake(mod error)

17:Breaking rules can result in any kind of punishment. Do not break the rules.
18:I may add additional rules at my discretion. I will tell everyone via PM if this happens.
19:Backup Mod:popsofctown.
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:28 am

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Player list:
shos
Chickadee
Korina
Doctor Drew
PMysterious
nomnomnom
Iconeum
cyrus62
RCEnigma
Formerfish
Baezu

Vorkuta
Kelly Chen
gameplay506

Chemist1422

Alive:
Spoiler:
shos
Chickadee
nomnomnom
Iconeum
cyrus62
Vorkuta
Kelly Chen
gameplay506


Dead:
Spoiler:
Korina
RCEnigma
Doctor Drew
Formerfish
Baezu

PMysterious
Chemist1422
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Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:37 am

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All role PM's have been sent.
Waiting for confirmation...


Read the rules.
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Post Post #3 (isolation #3) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:28 am

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Enough people have confirmed their role PM's.
Now you have to confirm that you have read the rules.
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Post Post #4 (isolation #4) » Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:01 am

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Korina died Night 0. Role PM:
Spoiler:
[REDACTED]


Day 1 begins.


Vote Count 1.0shos (0)

Chickadee (0)

Doctor Drew (0)

PMysterious (0)

nomnomnom (0)

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62 (0)

RCEnigma (0)

Baezu (0)

Vorkuta (0)

gameplay506 (0)

Chemist1422 (0)

Not Voting (12)shos;Chickadee;Doctor Drew;PMysterious;nomnomnom;Iconeum;cyrus62;RCEnigma;Baezu;Vorkuta;gameplay506;Chemist1422;

It's 7 for a majority lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-10-12 16:02:00)
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Post Post #71 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:25 am

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Vote Count 1.1shos (1)cyrus62;

Chickadee (0)

Doctor Drew (0)

PMysterious (0)

nomnomnom (0)

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62 (5)PMysterious;Doctor Drew;RCEnigma;shos;Vorkuta;

RCEnigma (0)

Baezu (0)

Vorkuta (1)nomnomnom;

gameplay506 (1)
??
;

Chemist1422 (0)

Not Voting (5)Chickadee;Iconeum;Baezu;gameplay506;Chemist1422;

It's 7 for a majority lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-10-12 16:02:00)

The vote named ??, marked with a green color, comes from someone aligned with the town.
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Post Post #143 (isolation #6) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:08 am

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In post 141, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 140, cyrus62 wrote:but a no lynch results
@mod
- can you confirm that VOTE: No Lynch is not-kosher?

(Obligatory back to VOTE: Korina)
The rules post does not contain a rule enabling No Lynch.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #7) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:44 am

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Vote Count 1.2shos (1)cyrus62;

Chickadee (0)

Doctor Drew (0)

PMysterious (0)

nomnomnom (0)

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62 (3)Doctor Drew;shos;Iconeum;

RCEnigma (0)

Baezu (0)

Vorkuta (2)nomnomnom;RCEnigma;

gameplay506 (1)
??
;

Chemist1422 (0)

Not Voting (6)Chickadee;Baezu;gameplay506;Chemist1422;Vorkuta;PMysterious;

It's 7 for a majority lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-10-12 16:02:00)

The vote named ??, marked with a green color, comes from someone aligned with the town.
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Post Post #347 (isolation #8) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:17 pm

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Vote Count 1.3shos (1)cyrus62;

Chickadee (0)

Doctor Drew (4)Chickadee;shos;RCEnigma;gameplay506;

PMysterious (1)Iconeum;

nomnomnom (0)

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62 (1)Doctor Drew;

RCEnigma (0)

Baezu (0)

Vorkuta (1)nomnomnom;

gameplay506 (1)
??
;

Chemist1422 (0)

Not Voting (4)Baezu;Chemist1422;Vorkuta;PMysterious;

It's 7 for a majority lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-10-12 16:02:00)

The vote named ??, marked with a green color, comes from someone aligned with the town.
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Post Post #377 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:23 am

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Baezu has been prodded.
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Post Post #469 (isolation #10) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:48 pm

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Vote Count 1.4shos (1)cyrus62;

Chickadee (0)

Doctor Drew (4)Chickadee;shos;RCEnigma;gameplay506;

PMysterious (1)Iconeum;

nomnomnom (0)

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62 (2)Doctor Drew;Vorkuta;

RCEnigma (0)

Baezu (0)

Vorkuta (1)nomnomnom;

gameplay506 (1)
??
;

Chemist1422 (0)

Not Voting (3)Baezu;Chemist1422;PMysterious;

It's 7 for a majority lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-10-12 16:02:00)

The vote named ??, marked with a green color, comes from someone aligned with the town.
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Post Post #472 (isolation #11) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:57 pm

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In post 470, Iconeum wrote:
In post 465, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 0, Not Known 15 wrote:10. Lynching:After 24 hours or more of the current day have passed everyone who has more than 50% of votes against them will get lynched. If the day ends without a majority lynch and at least two votes are currently on at least one person, then the person with the most votes - ties being resolved randomly - will be lynched. Otherwise, at the end of the day a random townie gets lynched.
seee icon my isuse
the way i read this is simple: a majority vote to lynch can only be done after at least 24 hours. Once after that period, you have the majority votes on you you are lynched (just like in any other game).
HOWEVER, if no majority vote at end of day, the person with the most votes is lynched and ties are randomly solved.
In an extreme case where there's like almost no votes, a random town gets lynched.

So it's not REALLY that different from regular lynching.
Clarification:
A majority vote is indeed enabled after 24 hours have passed each day.
If there is no majority vote until the scheduled end of the day, either:
-at least one person has two or more votes on them, then the person with the most votes gets lynched. If more than one person got the most votes then that tie between the people who have the highest number of votes is resolved randomly.
-no person has more than one vote on them, then a random townie is lynched, if possible.
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Post Post #582 (isolation #12) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:03 pm

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Timer stuck at 11 hours. Topic locked.
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Post Post #583 (isolation #13) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:46 pm

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Vote Count 1.LYNCH
korina(100000000000)
MODKILL
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shos (1)cyrus62;

Chickadee (0)

Doctor Drew (3)Chickadee;shos;gameplay506;

PMysterious (1)Iconeum;

nomnomnom (1)Vorkuta;

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62 (0)

RCEnigma (0)

Baezu (0)

Vorkuta (4)nomnomnom;Doctor Drew;RCEnigma;Chemist1422;

gameplay506 (0)

Chemist1422 (0)

Not Voting (2)Baezu;PMysterious;

It's 7 for a majority lynch.

Day 1 ends.



Korina has been revived, modkilled, and turned into a Survivor for breaking the rules.

Night 1 begins. It will end in (expired on 2019-10-15 16:47:00).
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Post Post #584 (isolation #14) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:27 am

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RCEnigma died Night 1. Role PM:
Spoiler:
Vanilla TownieYou have no special abilities

Win Condition:Remove all threats to the Town.


Vote Count 2.0shos (0)

Chickadee (0)

Doctor Drew (0)

PMysterious (0)

nomnomnom (0)

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62 (0)

Baezu (0)

Vorkuta (0)

gameplay506 (0)

Chemist1422 (0)

Not Voting (11)Baezu;PMysterious;nomnomnom;Doctor Drew;Chemist1422;cyrus62;Chickadee;shos;gameplay506;Iconeum;Vorkuta;

It's 6 for a majority lynch.

Day 2 begins. It will end in (expired on 2019-10-22 17:28:00) or when a lynch has been achieved.
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Post Post #693 (isolation #15) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:44 am

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Vote Count 2.1shos (2)nomnomnom;Iconeum;

Chickadee (0)

Doctor Drew (4)Vorkuta;Chickadee;PMysterious;gameplay506;

PMysterious (0)

nomnomnom (1)shos;

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62 (0)

Baezu (0)

Vorkuta (2)Doctor Drew;cyrus62;

gameplay506 (0)

Chemist1422 (0)

Not Voting (2)Baezu;Chemist1422;

It's 6 for a majority lynch.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2019-10-22 17:28:00) or when a lynch has been achieved.
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Post Post #695 (isolation #16) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:47 am

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Baezu has been prodded.
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Post Post #763 (isolation #17) » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:49 pm

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Vote Count 2.LYNCHshos (1)Iconeum;

Chickadee (0)

Doctor Drew (6)Vorkuta;Chickadee;PMysterious;gameplay506;cyrus62;nomnomnom;

PMysterious (0)

nomnomnom (0)

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62 (1)shos;

Baezu (0)

Vorkuta (2)Doctor Drew;

gameplay506 (0)

Chemist1422 (0)

Not Voting (2)Baezu;Chemist1422;

It's 6 for a majority lynch.

Day 2 ends.


Doctor Drew was lynched Day 2. Role PM:
Spoiler:
Town Unconvertable Strongwilled Compulsive Secretly Selective Cultifier
Every night, for at least the first two nights and likely for the third night unless you are dead, you will convert people into the cult(and you can't choose who you convert, and not everyone can be converted). Town being converted into the Cult is not good for the Town. You cannot be converted.Your actions cannot be stopped. You can't convert people if you are dead.



Win Condition:Eliminate all theats to the town.


Baezu is being replaced.
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Post Post #764 (isolation #18) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:02 pm

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Formerfish replaces Baezu.

Night 2 begins. It will end in (expired on 2019-10-22 07:00:22)
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Post Post #765 (isolation #19) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:03 am

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Formerfish died Night 2. Role PM:
Spoiler:
Vanilla TownieYou have no special abilities

Win Condition:Remove all threats to the Town.


Vote Count 3.0shos (0)

Chickadee (0)

PMysterious (0)

nomnomnom (0)

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62 (0)

Vorkuta (0)

gameplay506 (0)

Chemist1422 (0)

Not Voting (9)Chemist1422;Iconeum;shos;Vorkuta;Chickadee;PMysterious;gameplay506;cyrus62;nomnomnom;

It's 5 for a majority lynch.

Day 3 begins and will end with a majority lynch or in (expired on 2019-10-29 12:03:00).
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Post Post #906 (isolation #20) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:45 am

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Vote Count 3.1shos (1)nomnomnom;

Chickadee (1)Iconeum;

PMysterious (0)

nomnomnom (0)

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62 (1)Chickadee;

Vorkuta (0)

gameplay506 (0)

Chemist1422 (0)

Not Voting (9)Chemist1422;shos;PMysterious;gameplay506;cyrus62;Vorkuta;

It's 5 for a majority lynch.

Day 3 begins and will end with a majority lynch or in (expired on 2019-10-29 12:03:00).
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Post Post #970 (isolation #21) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:32 pm

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Vote Count 3.2shos (1)cyrus62;

Chickadee (1)Iconeum;

PMysterious (0)

nomnomnom (0)

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62 (1)Chickadee;

Vorkuta (0)

gameplay506 (0)

Chemist1422 (0)

Not Voting (9)Chemist1422;shos;PMysterious;gameplay506;Vorkuta;nomnomnom;

It's 5 for a majority lynch.

Day 3 will end with a majority lynch or in (expired on 2019-10-29 12:03:00).


gameplay506 has been prodded.
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Post Post #1015 (isolation #22) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:10 am

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In post 991, Chickadee wrote:I feel like I've been missing something for quite some time. Where did people find that at least 50% of roles will be bastard roles?
The information that these people are talking about can be found here, in the info about the game that you should have read before you signed up...
That information is true. At least 50% of all players got a bastard role.
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Post Post #1138 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:56 am

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Vote Count 3.3shos (2)cyrus62;nomnomnom;

Chickadee (0)

PMysterious (1)Vorkuta;

nomnomnom (0)

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62 (0)

Vorkuta (0)

gameplay506 (0)

Chemist1422 (0)

Not Voting (9)Chemist1422;shos;PMysterious;gameplay506;Chickadee;Iconeum;

It's 5 for a majority lynch.

Day 3 will end with a majority lynch or in (expired on 2019-10-29 12:03:00).


gameplay506 is being replaced.
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Post Post #1140 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:00 am

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PMysterious has been prodded.
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #25) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:22 am

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Vote Count 3.DAY ENDshos (0)

Chickadee (0)

PMysterious (4)Vorkuta;nomnomnom;Iconeum;cyrus62;

nomnomnom (0)

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62 (1)shos;

Vorkuta (0)

gameplay506 (0)

Chemist1422 (0)

Not Voting (4)Chemist1422;PMysterious;gameplay506;Chickadee;

It's 5 for a majority lynch.

Day 3 ends.


gameplay506 is being replaced.

PMysterious has been lynched. Role PM
:
Spoiler:
Mafia GoonYou are a Mafia Goon.
Once per night, you
must
kill someone.
[REDACTED]
Your win condition:
Control 50% of the votes and/or kill all enemies of the Mafia.

Twilight begins. It will end when gameplay506 has been replaced.
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Post Post #1239 (isolation #26) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:35 am

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Kelly Chen replaces gameplay506.


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Post Post #1240 (isolation #27) » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:40 am

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Chemist1422 has died. Role PM:
Spoiler:
Vanilla TownieYou have no special abilities

Win Condition:Remove all threats to the Town.


Vote Count 4.0shos (0)

Chickadee (0)

nomnomnom (0)

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62(0)

Vorkuta (0)

Kelly Chen
gameplay506
(0)

Not Voting (7)Kelly Chen;Chickadee;Vorkuta;nomnomnom;Iconeum;cyrus62;shos;

It's 4 for a majority lynch.


Day 4 will end in (expired on 2019-11-07 15:40:00) or when a majority lynch has been achieved.
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Post Post #1241 (isolation #28) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:40 am

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Sorry. That was a mod error. The thread should have been unlocked.


Day 4 has a new countdown. It will end with a majority lynch or in (expired on 2019-11-08 06:42:00).
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Post Post #1386 (isolation #29) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:36 am

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Vote Count 4.1shos (2)cyrus62;nomnomnom;

Chickadee (0)

nomnomnom (1)shos;

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62(0)

Vorkuta (0)

Kelly Chen
gameplay506
(0)

Not Voting (4)Kelly Chen;Chickadee;Vorkuta;Iconeum;

It's 4 for a majority lynch.


Day 4 will end in (expired on 2019-11-07 15:40:00) or when a majority lynch has been achieved.
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Post Post #1609 (isolation #30) » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:55 am

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Vote Count 4.FINALshos (0)

Chickadee (0)

nomnomnom (4)Iconeum;shos;Kelly Chen;cyrus62;

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62(0)

Vorkuta (0)

Kelly Chen
gameplay506
(0)

Not Voting (3)Chickadee;Vorkuta;nomnomnom;

It's 4 for a majority lynch.


Day 4 ends.

nomnomnom has been lynched. Role PM:
Spoiler:
Mafia GoonYou are a Mafia Goon.
Once per night, you
must
kill someone.
[REDACTED]
Your win condition:
Control 50% of the votes and/or kill all enemies of the Mafia.


Night 4 begins and will end in (expired on 2019-11-10 12:55:22)
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Post Post #1610 (isolation #31) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:42 am

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Iconeum died Night 4. Role PM:
Spoiler:
Town MediumAt night, you may be contacted by dead people. You will have dreams according to their choice if they contact you.
Win Condition:Remove all threats to the Town.


Vote Count 5.0shos (0)

Chickadee (0)

cyrus62(0)

Vorkuta (0)

Kelly Chen
gameplay506
(0)

Not Voting (5)Chickadee;Vorkuta;shos;Kelly Chen;cyrus62;

It's 3 for a majority lynch.


Day 5 begins and will end in (expired on 2019-11-18 12:39:00)
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Post Post #1611 (isolation #32) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:42 am

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Unlocked.
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Post Post #1778 (isolation #33) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:38 am

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Vote Count 5.GAME ENDshos (0)

Chickadee (3)Kelly Chen;shos;Vorkuta;

cyrus62(0)

Vorkuta (0)

Kelly Chen
gameplay506
(1)cyrus62;

Not Voting (5)Chickadee;

It's 3 for a majority lynch.


Chickadee has been lynched.
Role PM:
Spoiler:
CultistYou are a cultist.
Your win condition is to gain Majority with other cultists. There might be other win conditions. You only need to complete one of them.


A win condition has been achieved.

The mafia has gained control of 50% of all votes.
Endgame reached.
Shos, Secret Death Miller(Cult) , has been endgamed.
Cyrus, Secret Death Miller(Day:Mafia Goon, Night:Vanilla Townie) has been endgamed.



GAME ENDS; MAFIA WINS, CULT LOSES, TOWN LOSES.



The lone converted cultist, Chickadee, failed to survive to endgame and loses(their only applicable win condition(and a secret win condition))

Vorkuta, Mafia Goon, and Kelly Chen, Secret Death Godfather(Vanilla Townie), survive and win.

nomnomnom, Chemist and PMysterious were Secret Death Millers(Day:Mafia Goon, Night:Vanilla Townie), aligned with the town, and lose.

Iconeum and Doctor Drew were Death Masons, but the rest of their flips was correct. They lose.

The medium only recieved nightmares and good dreams, and only if a majority of dead people would have ever voted for a combination via PM which... never happened.(Yes, you all didn't read precisely, did you? It says "if the majority
agrees
" right there.

The flips of Baezu and RCEnigma were correct, they were the only true Vanilla Townies.

Korina cheated and broke the site's game rules about not communicating outside the game(they communicated via changing their location in their profile).
Oh, and they lost - obviously.
Their original role was this:
Town Delegate Of the Dead Death Mason
Bad news first.
YOU DIED NIGHT 0! You were backstabbed out of nowhere.
No one alive knows what you were.
Now the good news:
You can use all your abilities while being dead!
You have access to a Dead PT here. And to a Dead Mason PT here.
You can, once per day, send me a PM with a vote. The person you select will get one vote against them, named
?
or
??
. This vote counts as a town-controlled vote for win condition purposes, and counts - for the vote threshold to lynch with Majority.
Three times per game, when you send me that PM with a vote, you can mark this vote green. Then, your vote will be mod confirmed(Text of Truth) to come from the Town. as
??
. Otherwise, it will be marked as
?
(if you don't mark it green or exhausted your attempts).
You will be informed about a 4 players LYLO(LYLO=Town must lynch non-town or lose).
Win Condition:Remove all threats to the Town.


Needless to say, it was an uphill battle for town when their only strong power role who wasn't supposed to be removable got themselves modkilled - with consent of the list mods of course - and it broke part of the game because the dead were no longer able to influence the game until the end of the game, which they otherwise would have.

I am also sorry for the error in judgement I made - I should have planned to tell you that there's dead interaction from the beginning. Not that it influenced the game this much....
And... if you play a bastard game, or indeed, any game that isn't a normal game read things, especially mod PM's and the rules... carefully. Otherwise... you might miss something!
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Post Post #1780 (isolation #34) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:52 am

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No, they were a townie who would have flipped Cult upon death(shos). All death millers were aligned with the town.
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Post Post #1781 (isolation #35) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:52 am

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In post 1779, Kelly Chen wrote:Was I supposed to know anything about being a godfather? Vork and I were not sure how we would flip if lynched.
Well it says "SECRET Death Godfather"
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Post Post #1783 (isolation #36) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:03 am

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The public wincon of the cult was indeed gain majority.
The hidden wincons were two:
One for a team of 2+ converts, control 50% of the vote with mafia dead
One for a lone convert, survive until endgame.
The lone convert was not considered a threat to town or mafia, two converts were.
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Post Post #1785 (isolation #37) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:11 am

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The Cult could only recruit death millers, and the death miller(cult) only if that one was the only applicable one.
And the Cultifier WOULD if possible, recruit every night until game end(or running out of death millers), actively targeting only recruitables, so it was right to lynch them.
So yes, Chickadee was one of the five original death millers(NK:VT lynch:Mafia Goon)

The obvious bastard roles were the six death millers(one for Cult, 5 for Mafia, but only at day) and the Cultifier.
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Post Post #1786 (isolation #38) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:15 am

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In post 1784, Kelly Chen wrote:I have long foreseen town/cult were going to be really mad about this game
and probably... korina. Well, I am mad about that, at least. That clear-cut chase of cheating by korina - as the most powerful role of the entire game, aligned with the town, supposed to be able to influence the game until the end... - obviously distorted the game.
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Post Post #1788 (isolation #39) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:21 am

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In post 1787, Kelly Chen wrote:The bad thing here is that if Drew's optimal play is supposed to be to get lynched then, jester concerns aside, one should not expect any cult to be recruited in this setup.
which would have left you with a very slightly townsided setup, probably.
After all, the power of the Medium was limited to be known by the dead as Town(so the Medium claim was confirmed town for them), and to recieve thoughts o f the dead about alignment.
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Post Post #1790 (isolation #40) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:25 am

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In post 1789, Doctor Drew wrote:So what was the point of the dead Mason PT?
korina.
You were confirmed to korina as town. You were able to assist the Delegate of the Dead(here:korina) as confirmed town. The Delegate of the Dead who was supposed to have one vote from the grave, one time per day, until the end of the game.
.... MODKILL....

but that didn't happen.



You were a Death Mason because, of course, you had to lynch yourself at some point(and the pt had knowledge about you being bad for town), so as compensation, you were supposed to be able to influence the dead vote of the delegate greatly

....MODKILL....
but that didn't happen.
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Post Post #1792 (isolation #41) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:39 am

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In post 1791, Chemist1422 wrote:meanwhile I don’t even get told what my role was
Sorry. You were one of the death millers(nightkill flip:VT, lynch flip: MGoon)
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Post Post #1797 (isolation #42) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:52 am

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Post Post #1810 (isolation #43) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:43 am

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In post 1806, Korina wrote:Ok, NK15, no offense to you, but that role fucking sucked. Like, there is no way that role is remotely fun.
In post 1807, Korina wrote:Literally I'm a restless spirit that can vote once per day, with the option of confirming myself as a town voter?
In post 1808, Korina wrote:That's a fucking bullshit role. That isn't bastard by any meaning of the word. It's simply unfun.
Well, you could have talked with the other people as soon as there were dead people. You could have had lots of influence.. especially at the end of the game.
It's just that this role didn't suit YOU and your playstyle. Sometimes you get RNG'd a role you don't like. This happens. And when it happens....
it's NOT the right reaction to
cheat
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Post Post #1814 (isolation #44) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:48 am

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In post 1811, Korina wrote:Do I regret doing what I did to get myself modkilled? Kinda, but not really. Looking at it with the entire setup in mind, I do because it costed town the game, but from the information I had at the time of the modkill? No. Not at all. I put ?? as my location when I think Vork brought up to look at my profile. I figured at that point, it wouldn't really hurt that much because it was pretty much established that I was the ?? voter. What does the game get from seeing that confirmed? That I'm town, and I'm the ?? voter, which they pretty much already had figured out.

On top of that, I literally couldn't replace out of the slot. While I could, it'd be a huge dick move to whoever takes the slot. I don't wanna do that, so I have to play with that bullshit role. And, don't get me wrong here, behind-the-scene roles are fun as hell to play, but only if executed correctly. This is an example of one that isn't executed correctly. If I had more abilities, more shots per day, or even been alive at the start but later committed suicide or something, that'd be different. It'd still be a bullshit role, and probably closer to the realm of bastard, but it'd certainly be more bearable and more fun to play.
Stop making it worse. Your modkill was explicitely agreed to by the list mods. Stop calling cheating something acceptable.

Well, I normally don't design roles I wouldn't want to play and this role is NOT one of the exceptions.
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Post Post #1817 (isolation #45) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:55 am

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In post 1815, Korina wrote:I'm not calling it acceptable. I'm saying my thought process about it. I know what I did was wrong. We can agree on that point. But I don't regret my actions. That doesn't mean I see it as acceptable. And also, when I design roles, I try to see if it'd be fun to actually play. If it's arguably not fun to play, (like my role), then I try to change it to make it fun, or remove it.
I'd find that role fun to play... just saying. Are you someone who likes to make lots of posts?
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Post Post #1822 (isolation #46) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:02 am

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In post 1818, Korina wrote:Yes, I do. I tend to be one of the top posters in the game.
Yeah, that role is definitely more suited for those who post less. It's basically a role that allows you to post an anonymous vote once per day only, but with confirmability... influencing the game by few, but potentially very powerful actions, especially at the end of the game when that vote decides the lynch.
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Post Post #1845 (isolation #47) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:54 pm

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In post 1844, Vorkuta wrote:@modperson

-Is there a particular reason you wouldnt share our wincon with us?
-I couldn't find drew's recruitment criteria? Random? Any restrictions?
-Initial confusion. The flips showed your real wincon btw.
-they were picking a death miller that 1. wasn't dead 2. wasn't about to be dead(target of the nightkill) 3.wasn't the cult-flipping death miller if another one was recruitable 4.was randomized amongst all remaining applicable death millers.
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Post Post #1847 (isolation #48) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:53 am

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In post 1846, Kelly Chen wrote:Did you prepare text for Iconeum dreams or would the text have come from the players sending them?

Was trying to think what would be the worst role-related danger of letting Iconeum live to the last day and NKing Shos/Cyrus instead. It seems like there was no risk like that, except I'm not totally clear what's the maximum info Iconeum could have received that night.
"You had a nightmare about Vorkuta"

"You had a pleasant dream about nomnomnom"

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