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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:06 am

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Hi again to chickadee, jigglypuff, nomx3, RCE, Baezu, and chemist.
Nice to meet the rest of you.

Uh.... RIP korina.... except it wasn't written in the blue text of truth so idk what's up with that
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Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:05 am

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Right, let's begin digging through the bastardness
Is anyone here a double voter, compulsive hammerer, or some other ridiculous crap that we have to be aware of?
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Post Post #42 (isolation #2) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:40 am

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They're all RVS and NAI votes.
If anything, cyrus is all but guaranteed to not be the lynch today as a result
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Post Post #45 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:07 am

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I'm down for that, but I'm more interested in the bastard mechanics in this game and whether anyone has any insight as to what those may be
but in the interests of game progression and the slot's overall scumminess and 'overly-dramatic response' to a bunch of RVS votes

VOTE: cyrus @L-2 I think
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Post Post #52 (isolation #4) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:41 am

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In post 47, nomnomnom wrote:I don't think this is scum!cyrus
idk anything about scum!cyrus so your meta insight would be appreciated
In post 49, gameplay506 wrote:Gotta go back and dig that game up
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Post Post #58 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:58 am

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Before Baezu and Jigglypuff (PM) have even checked in yet?
You don't say
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Post Post #81 (isolation #6) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:23 am

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In post 75, RCEnigma wrote:Someone has an invisible vote or Korina is voting gameplay beyond the grave.
In post 71, Not Known 15 wrote:gameplay506 (1)??;
What the shit why did I miss that

Can anyone here kindly tell us if this is a bastard mechanic that they're not sharing with us or not?
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Post Post #83 (isolation #7) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:30 am

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In post 82, gameplay506 wrote:Not sure that whoever that vote belongs to is going to come forward and claim it
I'm asking politely either way
I also want to do the bare minimum of deduction and say it didn't come from the ~2 slots that didn't even post yet
In post 82, gameplay506 wrote:And even if someone claims it we can't really take his claim at face value
:igmeou:
dafaq
In post 82, gameplay506 wrote:so best to leave it as it is and let it resolve by itself
is this a townie answer?
do I buy this as a townie answer?
eh....
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Post Post #88 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:42 pm

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In post 87, RCEnigma wrote:Vork I might vig you instead tbh.
stop triggering me
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Post Post #90 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:48 pm

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VOTE: RCE
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also you're in effect scumclaiming by pulling this shit
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Post Post #95 (isolation #10) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:41 pm

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In post 91, RCEnigma wrote:How so?
you don't pull stunts like this as town
In post 92, nomnomnom wrote:Somehow this feels like scum!vork.
scum!vork would play around his former scum buddies
town!vork won't give 2 shits
but feel free to elaborate as to how I'm doing exactly the same thing I've done in cats or whatever it is you have hidden with your "somehow"
In post 93, gameplay506 wrote:a little insane :@
come now- it's only called EXTREMELY bastard
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Post Post #100 (isolation #11) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:31 pm

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In post 98, RCEnigma wrote:How is calling a vig shot outside of my townrange?
-4 pages in
-without having to out yourself as a vig

Don't get me wrong you like pretending to be a vig, but intimidating me by reminding me of past trauma is a scum!RCE move
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Post Post #104 (isolation #12) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:38 pm

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In post 103, Doctor Drew wrote:Asking for a friend.
Common courtesy dictates that you let us know lest you screw us over with it
Meta is to claim any and all negative utility ASAP I think
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Post Post #110 (isolation #13) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:36 pm

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Of course there's amazingly balanced garbage like "cultist recruiter enabler"
Hell korina might even get to be said cult leader when he rez's tomorrow or whatnot.

Kind of throws a wrench into the theory that korina is the one casting the ??? vote from beyond the grave but wtv
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Post Post #114 (isolation #14) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:39 am

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In post 111, RCEnigma wrote:Korina being cult was 100% a joke
Korina.... cult.... joke???
No waaaaaay
In post 112, Iconeum wrote:COME FORTH AND BE LYNCHED
Obligatory reminder that this could be a venge, lynchproof, or jester play
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Post Post #115 (isolation #15) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:45 am

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In post 55, gameplay506 wrote:viewtopic.php?f=23&t=80608 is the game I was talking about
So Cyrus, DDrew, and Baezu were also in this game.
Any intuition that you could bestow upon us?
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Post Post #117 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:59 am

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I unvoted and got the L-2 call wrong in the first place, so barring compulsive hammers or triple voters Cyrus looks like he's still alive
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Post Post #120 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:09 am

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In post 118, cyrus62 wrote:however whats with this cult
@Drew come clean so we can work out how to prevent the bastardness from spiraling out of control.
VOTE: Korina
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Post Post #121 (isolation #18) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:11 am

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I'm going to try and communicate- if that really is notdead!conftown Korina, kindly vote me back
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Post Post #123 (isolation #19) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:40 am

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I'm now trying to communicate- this is how I hopefuly grab his attention.

If he votes me back, then we'll have a lot of fun.

Although in the interest of simplicity, if the mysterious townie is NOT korina and is considerate enough to inform me that I should stop wasting my time with Crystal balls and tea leaves, then kindly vote like... Baezu (random person- I miss her and she has 0 votes on her)

And if you want to impersonate korina then :igmeou:
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Post Post #125 (isolation #20) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:45 am

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Where are my table flip emojis at

@Drew- (hypothetically... to the best of your knowledge... without confirming or denying blah blah blah) can you be "roleblocked" (or rolestopped or whatever the terminology is) to prevent this?
@All y'all- the guy came clean, so is there a universe where we don't give him rope for helping us?
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Post Post #131 (isolation #21) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:35 am

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In post 128, cyrus62 wrote:sounds like we have to find cult before it spreads so
In post 128, cyrus62 wrote:UNVOTE: doctor drew
this is too big of a contradiction for me to even process, but I'm trying to divine stuff here so I'll pretend it's my english
In post 129, RCEnigma wrote:we could be softlocked into a town loss
Oh boy did someone say setupspec?
13 => 9:3:1?

D1-> ML (8:3:1)
N1-> NK + Recruit (6:3:2)
D2-> ML (5:3:2)
N2-> NK + Recruit = (3:3:3)
D3 wtf is this even

9:2:2 is just as bad
8:3:1:1 (idk jester/SK/survivor/lynchee/idgaf) is also fun

10:2:1... idk maybe not
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Post Post #133 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:50 am

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In post 0, Not Known 15 wrote:Otherwise, at the end of the day a random townie gets lynched.
In post 0, Not Known 15 wrote:Every evil faction
In post 0, Not Known 15 wrote:ads (e.g. Mafia factional chat)
I refuse to believe that there isn't a dedicated scum faction in this game
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Post Post #137 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:57 am

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In post 134, cyrus62 wrote:my unvote is to state i only voted for rvs if i re vote its not rvs.
clarification- ok that's fair, but you lose me in
In post 134, cyrus62 wrote:however being bastard it could be town vs cult in which case killing doctor would prevent cult from growing. but we dont know how many are already in the cult
can you spoonfeed me why voting drew is bad (from a mechanical PoV and not "it's a dick move")
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Post Post #139 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:59 am

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In post 136, RCEnigma wrote:Could be 0. I'm assuming the cult starts at 0.
....
So in your universe (where there isn't a scum!faction), we have "13" townies and as a result we already won the game, HOWEVER day-by-day (technically by night but meh) the cultists grow in numbers and....

wtf is this even
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Post Post #141 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:03 am

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In post 140, cyrus62 wrote:but a no lynch results
@mod
- can you confirm that VOTE: No Lynch is not-kosher?

(Obligatory back to VOTE: Korina)
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Post Post #144 (isolation #26) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:13 am

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Indeed.

So jigglypuff can earn the tinest of town posts for the effort, but we're going to need something more substantial.
*ahem*

Why are we considering lynching cyrus again?
and wtf is
In post 140, cyrus62 wrote:lynch me so noo random town besides me
oh
you're under the assumption that there isn't a scum!NK/vig/anything else huh
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Post Post #146 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:18 am

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:facepalm:
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Post Post #147 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:18 am

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In post 143, Not Known 15 wrote:does not contain a rule enabling No Lynch.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:19 am

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In post 144, Vorkuta wrote:So jigglypuff can earn the tinest of town posts for the effort, but we're going to need something more substantial.
I retract this
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Post Post #151 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:27 am

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In post 150, PMysterious wrote:UNVOTE:
one more :facepalm: for good measure
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Post Post #153 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:32 am

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Not buying it. Sorry.

Have there been any precedents of a game without a dedicated scum!faction at all?
Do you not realize how broken this game is if that was the case?
I refuse to believe that this is the implementation.

And I'm going to be """scum"""reading you for thinking this way because like.... just.... no
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Post Post #165 (isolation #32) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:51 am

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In post 155, RCEnigma wrote:It's a bastard game and to go "ahhh probably 9:3:1" is asinine.
In post 6895, Not Known 15 wrote:Flavor/Mechanics:At least 50% of all players will get a bastard role. Other than this.. it could contain bastard and non-bastard mechanics.
There's "bastard" and there's "broken", there's "interesting mechanics" and "lolwtfRNG"
There's "insane cop" and "random cop"

I refuse to believe that we're playing a BS game, and knowing the mod there's gotta be some semblance of order and reason. (look at his adherence to rules to demonstrate this).

Thus, I'm scum reading you for side-tracking us with your BS. It's an excellent way to provide content while preventing town from accomplishing anything productive at all
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Post Post #166 (isolation #33) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:53 am

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In post 159, cyrus62 wrote:if said spy gets reculted by doctor then they tell us who is cult
-shit's random yo
-the spy's wincon changes so he has no more incentive to play ball
In post 164, RCEnigma wrote:No doc is well within reason to out his role for town to win.
+1
If drew dies now, he'll still be town (unless black-magic-fuckery retroactively turns his win-con into a survivor or some shit like that).
And he did the best he could with letting us know with what's up
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Post Post #169 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:57 am

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In post 168, RCEnigma wrote:Town isn't doing anything productive
We had serious discussion regarding cyrus and drew before you stepped in with your "hurr durr no scum faction" BS to distract everyone

also I'm still waiting for the next VC to try and summon the ??? person
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Post Post #172 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:01 am

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In post 170, RCEnigma wrote:You complained for 3 straight games about 9:4 setups after mini 2058.
:oops:

*ahem*
-was a newbie back then
-now I realize that we had enough town power to win
-we had an informed IC who didn't tell us what was up
-it was more about losing to FL than about the setup
-was an inexperienced newbie back then
-mastina designed that game, not NK
-last game I played with NK (Large 221) was 100% fine and balanced (aka we won)
only 3? I complained way more
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Post Post #173 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:01 am

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In post 171, RCEnigma wrote:Vork I'm shooting you tonight. You
In post 90, Vorkuta wrote:VOTE: RCE
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also you're in effect scumclaiming by pulling this shit
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Post Post #178 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:13 am

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@nom x3
cult!scum, or traditional mafia!scum?
a,k,a, are you acknowledging that a traditional mafia faction exists in this game?

@RCE
his spewing can be faked, and I don't like his drew reasoning in a few places
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Post Post #182 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:16 am

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@nom x3
but how can I be scum if there isn't a scum faction until drew indirectly recruits cultists?
/s


@RCE
It's for others who might actually buy your drivel on account of it being unopposed
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Post Post #183 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:17 am

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In post 181, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 180, RCEnigma wrote:I've scumclaimed no?
What
Him threatening me with the vig shot is a scumclaim directed at me.
town!RCE wouldn't invoke that
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Post Post #185 (isolation #40) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:19 am

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In post 182, Vorkuta wrote:but how can I be scum if there isn't a scum faction until drew indirectly recruits cultists? /s
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Post Post #187 (isolation #41) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:22 am

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In post 186, RCEnigma wrote:Except that one time
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AFTERWARDS. my argument isn't rocket science ffs so stop misrepping it

the trick worked once. bravo, very impressive, accolades, you got a sweep, congrats, great

The fact that you're doing it AGAIN is telling- you want to leash me and subtly brag about how you've got me in a vice.
The equivalent thing for me to do would be to claim multitasking fruit vendor to anyone who was in both games.
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Post Post #191 (isolation #42) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:26 am

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In post 188, cyrus62 wrote:it comes to either rce and vod are town or vod is scum and rce is town or rce is scum and vod is town .
your summary is very fitting
also who the fuck is vod? :P
In post 189, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Vorkuta
once more, for the
3rd
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By """acknowledging""" that I'm scum, you're also saying that your previous theory of "hurr durr there isn't a scum faction until drew gets cultists" is BS.
Which makes my point valid.

You literally can't have it both ways so which is it?
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Post Post #194 (isolation #43) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:36 am

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In post 192, nomnomnom wrote:Vork you reek of scum right now it's unreal
you say something similar almost every game and I've only rolled scum
against
with you once

And can you two please stop ignoring the brilliant logic of
>there is no scum in the game
>vork is scum
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Post Post #195 (isolation #44) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:36 am

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pedit
convenient once you've found a mislynch target
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Post Post #197 (isolation #45) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:52 am

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In post 196, nomnomnom wrote:This is the first time but feel free to refresh my memory.
Fucking effort

Mini 2076
In post 1641, nomnomnom wrote:I think vorkuta is actually good scum candidate whatever the flip is here.
Also home to some glorious phrases like
Spoiler:
In post 1647, nomnomnom wrote:THIS SENTENCE NOW ECHOES THROUGH THE NIGHT!!1!

VIGILANTE, HEED MY CALL!!!!!


Large 221: sure you replaced into a scum slot, but nice bit of shade at vork was your go to move there

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Post Post #199 (isolation #46) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:58 am

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:facepalm:
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Post Post #201 (isolation #47) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:06 am

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In post 192, nomnomnom wrote:Vork you reek of scum right now it's unreal
Point is- you don't have a good record of reading me either way, and it's more than plausible that you're earning points.
Although I actually think you might play around me as scum so I'll tentatively put you down as wrong!town and move on to other more interesting matters

Like divining
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Post Post #210 (isolation #48) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:38 am

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In post 203, Not Known 15 wrote:gameplay506 (1)??;
Goddamit. Won't or can't play ball
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Post Post #213 (isolation #49) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:40 am

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@shos
Is this your first time making this observstion, or do you have something to say?
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Post Post #217 (isolation #50) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:42 am

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In post 214, shos wrote:Who was the first to bring up cult in the first place, though? Did this happen before someone said they have a negative utility regarding cult?
Drew, was way back in
In post 103, Doctor Drew wrote:Totally random question, I have going back and forth on if I want to reveal, but if I have a role that more than likely is anti town....yet I am town......should I reveal?

Asking for a friend.
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Post Post #221 (isolation #51) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:45 am

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@gameplay
I'm 99% sure that the very early references were trollposts as this is korina's profile
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=31189

Drew's was the first serious acknowledgement IMHO
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Post Post #225 (isolation #52) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:47 am

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In post 218, gameplay506 wrote:Does 1 cult whatever and 1 cult recruiter who is town make sense?
no because there isn't a single member of the cult faction until drew begins his recruiting rite @RCE???
/s


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Post Post #228 (isolation #53) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:49 am

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In post 222, shos wrote:This is too setupspecy for me
:facepalm:
In post 105, Doctor Drew wrote:Well for now I will say.... there most likely is a cult.

And I may be helping the cult recruit.
In post 124, Doctor Drew wrote:In a nutshell, every night I am alive some one randomly(I have no say in the matter) is recruited into a cult. This happens the first two nights, and maybe the third. Also I cannot be one of the recruits.
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Post Post #230 (isolation #54) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:54 am

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In post 229, shos wrote:I kinda think this is a lie tho
I'd buy it tbh. I'd buy it even more if drew wasn't informed, but yeah.
Eitherway, it makes sense to look into the people who are all like "HANG HIM" without even taking a second to think about what other factions he could be when making this claim (*ahem* RCE, cyrus...)
In post 229, shos wrote:On another note, does anyone know why the game is called "E Bastard"?
Well when you signed up for this, it was called EXTREMELY Bastard no?
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Post Post #234 (isolation #55) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:59 am

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In post 231, gameplay506 wrote:The imputs from vorkuta make me puke a little in my mouth
namely?
In post 232, gameplay506 wrote:Cyrus basically said don't hang him and unvoted?
huh...... no.
In post 137, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 134, cyrus62 wrote:my unvote is to state i only voted for rvs if i re vote its not rvs.
clarification- ok that's fair, but you lose me in
In post 134, cyrus62 wrote:however being bastard it could be town vs cult in which case killing doctor would prevent cult from growing. but we dont know how many are already in the cult
can you spoonfeed me why voting drew is bad (from a mechanical PoV and not "it's a dick move")
In post 140, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 135, PMysterious wrote:Reading through now, and with the role that was claimed, things are looking interesting as it is. A cult where no one knows who gets recruited, and chances are there's a whole lot more. At this point, I just wanna no-lynch and see what happens in the game night, but I don't know if that goes against my win condition or not.
He unvoted for reasons that are completely unclear to me, but is saving the "we need to hang drew" attitude
UNVOTE:
lynch me so noo random town besides me dies or lynch doctor so the cult don't grow, but a no lynch results in one person dieing any way.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #56) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:06 am

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In post 233, gameplay506 wrote:How is hang him a bad response to someone claiming a role that is actively hurting town?
if even a shitty player like me can stop the kneejerk reaction to vote for drew because of
In post 114, Vorkuta wrote:Obligatory reminder that this could be a venge, lynchproof, or jester play
then you really have to ask why the other players are blindly calling for his head
In post 235, gameplay506 wrote:Yes,vorkuta?
yeah exactly

D1: (pulling numbers out of various orfices here)2 cultists, 1 recruiter (drew), (2 total cultists).
We miraculously lynch a cultist= 1 cultist and 1 recruiter remaining
N1: drew convertes
D2: We're back to 2 cultists and 1 recruiter.

Progress done = 0

We address the symptoms and contain the spread of this bastard infection BEFORE trying to find the source.
Cyrus is not even unvoting due to "jester" reasons, he's unvoting for.... "cult hunting" reasons, something RCE doesn't even think exists on D1.
All of this is concerning
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Post Post #240 (isolation #57) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:16 am

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In post 237, gameplay506 wrote:than dumbindicative what RCE is doing
perfect.
excellent.
we're on the same page

Personal respect/meta read.
I think RCE is too good a player to genuinely be this bad as town.
and I see benefit in scum!rce causing and creating this chaos and living in it.
We have players like shos who miss key posts every now and then, so it would suck completely if the first thing they see when they log-in is RCE's BS which, as it stands right now, I'm like the only one contesting.
I think this is a scum angle, ESPECIALLY considering his vig threats at me (but that's even more meta and between us)
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Post Post #244 (isolation #58) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:20 am

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In post 239, Doctor Drew wrote:It is heavily implied there already are cult members, or at least one cult member already.
i love you, thank you for giving this sacred and vital information so I can rub it in people's faces
In post 238, gameplay506 wrote:How is that better or even in any way comparable to RCE voting Drew for his cult recruiter claim
->drew: unvotes without a clear reason without realizing that this is literally "whack-a-mole" and where BEST CASE SCENARIO one cultist falls another will rise and WORST CASE SCENARIO we miss and the cultist tumor grows

->RCE: the dumbness of it was explained ^
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Post Post #246 (isolation #59) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:29 am

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In post 241, gameplay506 wrote:Vorkuta you go first
I've already probably made my position on this fiasco relatively clear, so I gladly transfer the privilege of answering to someone who needs to step it up activity-wise
hypothetical cultleader!baezu is now laughing like a maniac.

I like this reasoning but I think it's too surface level.
Cyrus buckled ridiculously under RVS pressure and I don't think it's that straighforward
In post 243, gameplay506 wrote:RCE has uncoted Drew so he isn't really pushing Drew anymore
scum!RCE found himself a
bigger threat
better mislynch target in yours truly
the fact that he isn't actively "pushing" drew has to do with activity/login-times (I had RTI with him for a while), but his position on him is clear (and contradictory but wtv)
quick refresher
In post 189, RCEnigma wrote:I'm cool with lynching doc tomorrow. 1 cultist but they may not be able to recruit without doc.
In post 243, gameplay506 wrote:His vig threats are something I see every game from at least one other player
*inhales*
*exhales*
In post 187, Vorkuta wrote:The fact that you're doing it AGAIN is telling- you want to leash me and subtly brag about how you've got me in a vice.
The equivalent thing for me to do would be to claim multitasking fruit vendor to anyone who was in both games.
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Post Post #248 (isolation #60) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:37 am

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In post 245, gameplay506 wrote:Whatever this was supposed to mean, it makes little sense
1- Drew: "sorry guys, I'm kind of responsible for cult recruiting"
2- Cyrus (who was RVS voting Drew): Unvotes
3- also Cyrus: "we should cult!hunt"
are there any problems with the watered down version of events (as I perceived them) so far?
In post 245, gameplay506 wrote:Your arguments on RCEscum are not exactly good either
TL;DR
-RCE is too good to honestly and genuinely buy the idea that this setup is "all town on D1 with 0 scum factions and no one is bad until N1 when drew recruits people"- hence this is scum!RCE trying to distract/gaslight/manipulate/misrep the setup as far away from reality as he could. I'm also the only one calling him out on this BS which is interesting
-RCE is trying to have it both ways with the following BS
>there is no scum faction
>vork is scum
-RCE is trying to intimidate/leash/subdue/reaction-test me with his
triggering
vig!shot threats and I see absolutely no reason why town!RCE would pull this shit

My watered-down version of events may have glossed over some of the more nuanced issues for the sake of transparency, but there you have it.
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Post Post #249 (isolation #61) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:45 am

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In post 247, gameplay506 wrote:My arguments/words seem to just drown there somewhere
I've rephrased my points and used different words to describe the same point like 50 times, yet you're the one displeased?
seems fair
In post 242, gameplay506 wrote:Cyrus is cult
Drew is their recruiter
Hence why Cyrus is reacting so strange to that claim and is happy to die in the place of Drew
DREW:
-50%: genuine town who got a sucky bastard role which brings major town utility
/s

-50%: jester/3rd play
0.1% next level scum gambit with 20 layers of WIFOM


CYRUS:
-33%: town who seems to get caught up in the dumbest/weirdest of situations
-33%: the 1 and only cultist on D1 who'll be playing alone against the world if drew hangs today
-33%: idk I can't think of everything but there's probably another explanation for this as well
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Post Post #252 (isolation #62) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:51 am

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In post 251, gameplay506 wrote:If you are selling bad arguments for something
Spoonfeed to me why you think they're bad.
I've literally given them to you in point form just now- your life should be easy if you GENUINELY have issues with them and are not doing this for show
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Post Post #254 (isolation #63) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:57 am

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In post 125, Vorkuta wrote:Where are my table flip emojis at
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Post Post #258 (isolation #64) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:26 pm

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In post 256, nomnomnom wrote:What kind of scum/cultist would go ahead and say all of this?
a jester
In post 257, nomnomnom wrote:is leading us to our doom in terms of scumhunting.
I 100% agree, and would like to present the person who is 99% responsible for said doom leading
In post 132, RCEnigma wrote:There's not guaranteed to be any mafia at all actually.
In post 136, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 134, cyrus62 wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 131, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 128, cyrus62 wrote:sounds like we have to find cult before it spreads so
In post 128, cyrus62 wrote:UNVOTE: doctor drew
this is too big of a contradiction for me to even process, but I'm trying to divine stuff here so I'll pretend it's my english
In post 129, RCEnigma wrote:we could be softlocked into a town loss
Oh boy did someone say setupspec?
13 => 9:3:1?

D1-> ML (8:3:1)
N1-> NK + Recruit (6:3:2)
D2-> ML (5:3:2)
N2-> NK + Recruit = (3:3:3)
D3 wtf is this even

9:2:2 is just as bad
8:3:1:1 (idk jester/SK/survivor/lynchee/idgaf) is also fun

10:2:1... idk maybe not
my unvote is to state i only voted for rvs if i re vote its not rvs. but doctor could be town . however being bastard it could be town vs cult in which case killing doctor would prevent cult from growing. but we dont know how many are already in the cult
Could be 0. I'm assuming the cult starts at 0.
In post 155, RCEnigma wrote:It's a bastard game and to go "ahhh probably 9:3:1" is asinine.

Thinking. There could be 4 sks and each get a designated night to shoot. Cult doesn't have to start with any members whatsoever if drew is a compulsive recruiter.

Like, scumreading me for not assuming the setup is non bastard in a bastard game is a shit read.
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Post Post #261 (isolation #65) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:29 pm

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In post 259, Doctor Drew wrote:so it isn't 100% that someone is recruited
hold up
In post 124, Doctor Drew wrote:I am alive some one randomly(I have no say in the matter) is recruited into a cult
how is that compatible with ^?
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Post Post #267 (isolation #66) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:53 pm

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@nom- hi please get back to me on
In post 258, Vorkuta wrote:I 100% agree, and would like to present the person who is 99% responsible for said doom leading
In post 265, nomnomnom wrote:and think through this one rationally.
I think we're split 50/50 between "excise the cultist tumor" and "lol jester gonna jest"

@drew

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Post Post #274 (isolation #67) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:13 pm

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Post Post #277 (isolation #68) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:31 pm

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In post 273, RCEnigma wrote:Vork still misrepping anything he can to make his case.
In post 274, Vorkuta wrote:
Spoiler:
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In post 252, Vorkuta wrote:I've literally given them to you in point form just now- your life should be easy if you GENUINELY have issues with them and are not doing this for show
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Post Post #282 (isolation #69) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:42 pm

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In post 259, Doctor Drew wrote:so it isn't 100% that someone is recruited, but also no way to know if a recruit was successful or not.
still some confusion

Here's how I understand it
13 players (ok 12 with the NK, and 11 with korina dead), out of them ....."4" are ineligible to be recruited

QUESTION:
is there a GUARANTEED recruitment from the remaining 7 players
OR
is there a recruitment within the 11, but there's the possibility that one of the 4 ineligibles was RNG'd and the recruitment failed?
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Post Post #284 (isolation #70) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:45 pm

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In post 280, RCEnigma wrote:Stop pushing it like I'm telling everyone there's only town in the game.
I'm sorry that quoting your posts makes you feel misrepresented
/s
In post 280, RCEnigma wrote:It's a bad case, idk why you keep pushing if there is any chance you're town.
Because your alternate viewpoints are bad and detrimental to town cohesion.
case in point: you indirectly made chemist depressed with your horrible setupspec
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Post Post #285 (isolation #71) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:46 pm

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In post 283, Doctor Drew wrote:Pre Edit: Just stated that some people can't be recruited.
that's not what I asked
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Post Post #286 (isolation #72) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:47 pm

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In post 285, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 283, Doctor Drew wrote:Pre Edit: Just stated that some people can't be recruited.
that's not what I asked
Ah shoot

That probably means that you can't give us an answer
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Post Post #288 (isolation #73) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:51 pm

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So here's my little theory

If drew was a jester (or anything that wants to get lynched), I think he'd go big and "fudge" the details a bit.
Along the lines of "THERE ABSOLUTELY 100% WILL BE A RECRUITMENT AS LONG AS IM ALIVE"

The fact that he's still trying to the best of his ability to give us """honest""" (in a bastard game) information is telling IMHO
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Post Post #329 (isolation #74) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:29 am

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@Drew
Can you full-claim your role and all (or as many as you are willing/able to share) your modifiers so we won't have to play this game of chinese whispers?

inb4 modkill!gated
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Post Post #352 (isolation #75) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:16 pm

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In post 348, Doctor Drew wrote:Also, trying not to get mod smacked here so I can't really say much more specifically...but I think i should be kept alive.....at least until tomorrow.

JUST FUCKING TRUST ME OK
Hi it's vork here- I've been playing ball with you the most

So how do you reconcile this with the fact that you kind of "wanted" to be lynched earler today?
Did you finally realize something on the 50th reread of your rollPM?

And if not you, then who do you propose? Cyrus?
poetry
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Post Post #354 (isolation #76) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:35 pm

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So
TL;DR, killing you D1 is much worse than keeping you alive until tomorrow which guarantees a cult recruit
and your wincon is that of town.
yet you've fullclaimed your modifiers already
oh boy
In post 353, Doctor Drew wrote:And how about this, anybody who is scared of me being the jester should be looked at a bit more.
I mean give then half a second to process the new information and reconsider their read on you
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Post Post #355 (isolation #77) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:40 pm

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In post 347, Not Known 15 wrote:gameplay506 (1)??;
Whoever this is

Would you like to communicate with me?
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Post Post #362 (isolation #78) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:21 am

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In post 360, cyrus62 wrote:if i had to pick a person i thought was scum/cult it would be gameplay hence the text of truth saids ?? is town and ?? is voting game play.
sheeping an IC without any justification for the read is very :igmeou:
esp. considering that vote hasn't changed at all. it might be fixed and idk how I feel about that

ALSO
IMMA BE THAT GUY
Mod post said that text of truth is #0000FF
That's BLUE
??? is GREEN (#00FF00)

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Post Post #370 (isolation #79) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:43 am

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In post 367, Chickadee wrote:for this person to stay hidden
Yes
They can still move their vote and stay hidden while sharing information with us

But they aren't
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Post Post #381 (isolation #80) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:20 am

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In post 378, shos wrote:I don't see how this answers me
In post 221, Vorkuta wrote:@gameplay
I'm 99% sure that the very early references were trollposts as this is korina's profile
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=31189

Drew's was the first serious acknowledgement IMHO
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Post Post #385 (isolation #81) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:28 pm

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My 2 cents

I associate "bastard" with BS mechanics, not cult.
Like all the BS variants of a cop
hidden roles and modifiers
mod going like "rocks fall, people die"

not "cults"
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Post Post #388 (isolation #82) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:37 pm

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kindly clarify intended post recipient kthnx
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Post Post #390 (isolation #83) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:46 pm

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o shit

Yeah no, you're extrapolating way too far and you should know that I buy your full roll.
I'm just contributing my personal thoughts as I personally think jesters are worse/more imblanaced than cultists.

Also I'm concerned that
In post 246, Vorkuta wrote:hypothetical cultleader!baezu is now laughing like a maniac.
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Post Post #424 (isolation #84) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:58 pm

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There's no fucking way it's that simple- apparently for all we know it could be
In post 287, RCEnigma wrote:only recruit prime numbered roles.
but for the sake of supporting the initiative
+1 to "nothing in my roll PM"
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Post Post #429 (isolation #85) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:19 pm

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VOTE: cyrus
Horrible RVS response
Cult equity
Cheap deadline reminder points
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Post Post #483 (isolation #86) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:10 pm

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Cyrus and Jigglypuff slots grind my gears and I hate their posts

I'm 99% sure culling cultist spread is mechanically optimal, but I fear drew's "TRUST ME" to vote him

Shos should post more

Hi Baezu

I have made my slight displeasure with RCE and nom slots quite obvious but am probably not as likely to scum read them
Plus it would be suicide for scum!both to be like that

Chickadee has... presence in this game?
Idk doesn't chickadee usually have more presence?

Iconeum and gameplay can stay

scum/cult!Chemist being depressed is just an under-the-belt play IMHO so he can be town
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Post Post #484 (isolation #87) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:12 pm

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{Drew}
{ico, gameplay, chemist}
{RCE, nom x3}
{shos, chicka}
{Jiggly, Cyrus}

Baezu tier: Baezu
Dead tier: Korina
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Post Post #486 (isolation #88) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:14 pm

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:igmeou:

knock nom's slot down a tier
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Post Post #488 (isolation #89) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:15 pm

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Would you have preferred

"I buy Chemist's AtE and think it comes from "looming existential dread town"

instead?
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Post Post #489 (isolation #90) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:16 pm

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In post 487, nomnomnom wrote:Unfortunate slip.
:igmeou:

Kindly spoonfeed it to me
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Post Post #492 (isolation #91) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:22 pm

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So.... let's.... vote... RCE instead.....?

I'm referring to the debacle where the two of you piled up on me for shit and invalid reasons (and to think I JUST GOT RID of the aftertaste) together.
I don't think it was a coordinated play anymore.
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Post Post #494 (isolation #92) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:27 pm

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>hurrdurr vork slipped and RCE is his partner *kneejerk vote:vork"
>why vote RCE???

He's null if I forget his amazing "there is no scum!team in this game" shpiel and "dayvig:vork" garbage.

The 2 (convenient how I put my "scum partner" into your pair and not theirs but ok) grind my gears, but I'm not seeing a potential majority and don't think it's mechanically optimal.
The fact that you think you can get a majority and that it's more optimal to lynch yours truly is telling
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Post Post #496 (isolation #93) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:41 pm

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In post 197, Vorkuta wrote: Also home to some glorious phrases like
Spoiler:
In post 1647, nomnomnom wrote:THIS SENTENCE NOW ECHOES THROUGH THE NIGHT!!1!

VIGILANTE, HEED MY CALL!!!!!
Pet theory round 2

scum is fine with the cultist threat and are probably willing to roll the odds
hell, in every wiki page out there, scum can't even be targetted by cult
+
nom seeking to get rid of someone who's shared an amazing scum game (and 35 pages of scum!PT worth of insight) with them
+
low tier armchair psychology that nom KNOWS doesn't apply (based on said ^ pages)
+
selective, picky, choosy, and AGENDA-DRIVEN, application of said slip
(i.e- RCE, and not 1 of {jiggly/cyrus} or {gameplay/ico} for the exact same reason)

Where are my gifs at?
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Post Post #498 (isolation #94) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:46 pm

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oh so the slip is scum!both now, instead of my making pairs with my reads
convenient

but I liberally use that term so.....
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Post Post #501 (isolation #95) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:48 pm

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In post 491, nomnomnom wrote:this is how I caught a scum instantly categorizing me as a serial killer
wait

is your ""slip"" the fact that I didn't cover myself and say "third party/cultist/scum!both"?
Because I'm pretty damn sure that was self evident....
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Post Post #506 (isolation #96) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:52 pm

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In post 500, nomnomnom wrote:yet said scum/cult!chemist
In post 483, Vorkuta wrote:scum!both
huh
your claim has merit now

it's wrong, but valid.

*insert obligatory "was following different trend of thought, came back after tea, finished writing shit down, pressed submit without caring about precise wording" story here*
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Post Post #511 (isolation #97) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:54 pm

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In post 87, RCEnigma wrote:Vork I might vig you instead tbh.
In post 171, RCEnigma wrote:Vork I'm shooting you tonight
oh no he didnt say "day"
my argument lies crumbling
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Post Post #516 (isolation #98) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:57 pm

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.....
telling my scum partner.... who i've slipped.... to shoot me....

nom, listen to yourself
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Post Post #517 (isolation #99) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:58 pm

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In post 514, RCEnigma wrote:You're literally misrepping my posts to throw shade and feign indifference
In post 284, Vorkuta wrote:I'm sorry that quoting your posts makes you feel misrepresented
/s
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Post Post #522 (isolation #100) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:00 pm

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goddamit the logic is actually decent and I'd actually buy it if it were literally anyone else :igmeou:
In post 506, Vorkuta wrote:"was following different trend of thought, came back after tea, finished writing shit down, pressed submit without caring about precise wording" story
but this is factual

also if we're completely beyond caring about cults, VOTE: nom x3
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Post Post #526 (isolation #101) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:02 pm

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In post 521, RCEnigma wrote:There's a meme here somewhere.
bruh

you know I like my flair, dramaticness, being facetious, and fudging a detail for the sake of the story
but if you think that half my argument against you falls apart simply because you didn't threaten to "DAY"vig me then.... like....
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Post Post #530 (isolation #102) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:03 pm

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In post 524, nomnomnom wrote:your completely absolutely categorically resolute neutral pool.
In post 492, Vorkuta wrote:(and to think I JUST GOT RID of the aftertaste) together.
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Post Post #537 (isolation #103) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:06 pm

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This is the part where nom goes on a crusade and ends up being wrong because nom's crusades are 50/50 at best, and 0/100 when in my direction but ok

I invoke the same 35 page long PT chat where nom should know that scum!vork doesnt slip like this
also their selectivity in voting me first and then my alleged scum!partner
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Post Post #538 (isolation #104) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:07 pm

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In post 531, nomnomnom wrote:Vork you should have mixed up your distancing and AAARGH techniques from when we did it in cats buddy
+1
if you think I wouldn't watch myself and play around you after that game.... then....
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Post Post #542 (isolation #105) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:11 pm

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It's funny because it's not a slip.
That's the best part

The entire point as that BOTH of you (nom & RCE) can't be in the same scum faction together, and I've made it clear that I think this is 9:3:1 or 9:2:1

Whereas chemist just plain outright cant be in an anti-town faction.

And the fact that nom is ignoring the substance to "CRUSADE" this is BS.
Like announcing the fact that "I GOT A SLIP" already makes you much more credible than you actually are, and you're using that momentum to drown out my voice.
A scum (or scum/cultist!nom play, if we're being pedantic) play
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Post Post #543 (isolation #106) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:11 pm

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In post 534, RCEnigma wrote:What argument?
In post 252, Vorkuta wrote:'ve literally given them to you in point form just now-
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Post Post #546 (isolation #107) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:13 pm

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I thought nom had a knee-jerk "HE SLIPPED" play without actually understanding what slip nom was referring to, so I knee-jerk replied "blow me"

Now that I understand VERBATIM what it is, I can confidently say that it's not a slip
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Post Post #550 (isolation #108) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:18 pm

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tbh it's more optimal to hang nom first

nom green!flip would lend actual credibility to their case, and it'd be a "two-for-one" play if it were true
however nom flips red (or purple) as you can literally see how giddy nom got when the word "slip" was invoked
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Post Post #552 (isolation #109) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:19 pm

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In post 547, nomnomnom wrote:(literally the one and only)
:igmeou:
In post 548, RCEnigma wrote:or anything based in fact
for the 50th time, I'm sorry that quoting your posts directly makes you think I'm misrepping you
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Post Post #553 (isolation #110) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:23 pm

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We have 2 paths to choose from

>cult path (drew & cyrus)
>scum path (which is the current nom v vork (+RCE?) 1v1)

and it's approaching the deadline.

Considering you know this
you don't care about the cultist threat
and you're literally parading the "slip" to gain momentum HARD

This is not a good-faith-town-play.
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Post Post #555 (isolation #111) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:25 pm

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In post 554, nomnomnom wrote:I would only vote Drew in a situation where I know nothing else can get a majority but here I was a massive slip to support my case
Thank you for repeating my argument
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Post Post #556 (isolation #112) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:26 pm

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In post 330, Doctor Drew wrote:Town Unconvertible Strongwilled Compulsive Secretly Selective Cultifier
Who the fuck hallucinates this shit up as a jester?
all they'd have to do is slip hurr durr
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Post Post #559 (isolation #113) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:32 pm

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In post 557, nomnomnom wrote:You from the past doesn't seem to agree with you lol
:igmeou:
learning from one's mistakes is a foreign concept
In post 557, nomnomnom wrote:Also you decided to vote Cyrus during that time period as well
In post 483, Vorkuta wrote:but I fear drew's "TRUST ME" to vote him
In post 557, nomnomnom wrote:all your arguments right now are emotionally driven
-and yours don't come from the euphoria that comes from "FINDING A SLIP"
-which wasn't even a slip now that I've explained it
-k
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Post Post #563 (isolation #114) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:42 pm

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I don't care because my fate is already set

I've seen too many games to know that once someone starts parading """SLIP""" there's nothing anyone can do to
it's a shame that I genuinely left for tea and came back to write my thoughts so wording isn't something I was concerned about (esp as town- where I have the luxury of not giving a fuck)

Based on our scum!PT stories, I think faking a slip on someone and "oopsie'ing" after it in D2 is well within your scum!range
But this feels genuine with you invoking "first time evar" so idk
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Post Post #567 (isolation #115) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:46 pm

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considering the heat you'll be under for when I flip green.... yes
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Post Post #570 (isolation #116) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:52 pm

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In post 568, nomnomnom wrote:super
hot
super hot super hot super hot
In post 569, cyrus62 wrote:what if cult in this game means you die to join
I promise to not leave the game if I RIP and be flashy if there's literally anything I can do when dead
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Post Post #573 (isolation #117) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:59 pm

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In post 571, Doctor Drew wrote:Can you?
In post 563, Vorkuta wrote:Based on our scum!PT stories, I think faking a slip on someone and "oopsie'ing" after it in D2 is well within your scum!range
But this feels genuine with you invoking "first time evar" so idk
If you give me a day to cool off and decide whether that was a scum play or whether nom is just overzealous!town

*looks at deadline*
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Post Post #576 (isolation #118) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:02 pm

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>Town!N0vig
>"hmmm who to shoot"
>lawl korina = cult MWAHAHAHAAA

Oh wow if that's what happened then....
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Post Post #586 (isolation #119) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:29 am

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@Drew
so now that D1 has passed- any insights into anything?
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Post Post #588 (isolation #120) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:38 am

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ayt
no more cancer
VOTE: drew
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Post Post #589 (isolation #121) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:40 am

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Quick observation-
the very last VC did not have our elusive "???" on gameplay's (or anyone's) slot.

So conf!town korina will not be rejoining us from beyond the grave?
I'm also assuming that he broke a mod clause (not a rule like "dun discuss other games" or "dun post roll pm")- maybe he changed his vote or something along the lines
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Post Post #593 (isolation #122) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:08 pm

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Also hot take

RCE is/was the only VT in this game.
Discuss
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Post Post #597 (isolation #123) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:02 pm

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Jigglypuff has been whining about being confused. and awed. and blahblahblah
I don't think this is his VT play.
And I wanted to take it to the next level by making said blanket statement.
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Post Post #604 (isolation #124) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:44 pm

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In post 600, nomnomnom wrote:He definitely broke the rules. Text of truth.
*sighs*
I'm not talking about post #0 rules
Here's a roll where you get modkilled if you misplay.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Semi-Priest
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Post Post #615 (isolation #125) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:53 pm

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Ooh- I also speak 'auto-correct off'
In post 614, Iconeum wrote:who's Theresa
'There is a'
So something resembling a scum!team/SK, on top of cults thats capable of performing NKs

A VI is an amazing town player who provides nuance and quality discussion, contributes analysis and reads, and all that.
Alternatively "village idiot"

Aaand shos is expressing sorrow and how they're "quite" annoyed that a helpful and active slot like RCE's was killed.
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Post Post #617 (isolation #126) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:49 am

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In post 616, Iconeum wrote:there's no reason to assume there is no scumteam
You must have missed all of the 50 posts where I gave RCE shit for trying to pull "there's no mafia in this game"

I'm just assuming that this is multiball where somePRs might not get honest results and that's it.

Yeah- Drew goes today
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Post Post #620 (isolation #127) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:56 am

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In post 601, cyrus62 wrote:imm confused why wasn't their a lynch
Typically (oh no I'm looking at the wiki to get my information!!!) If you get modkilled, the day either ends/continues to punish your faction
Mafia modkill = day continues so town gets an extra lynch opportunity
Town modkill = day ends

This is in-line with my working theory of korina being the ???
In post 602, cyrus62 wrote:also rce saide he would shoot vork and hes dead any ideas?
-He threatened to shoot 2 other people as well IIRC- like chickadee
-your subtle attempt at throwing shade is bad and you should feel bad
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Post Post #623 (isolation #128) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:19 am

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In post 621, PMysterious wrote:and/or was unable to unvote after voting
I agree
But like wtf is that role
I'd like to think that players (korina) was rational enough to do the optimal thing for town.
Maybe there was no chance of getting rez'd...?
In post 621, PMysterious wrote:Being a Semi-Priest wouldn't be possible in these circumstances
Nom was being dumb so I had to find a roll that could be modkilled as part of its mechanics and this is the first thing that came to mind
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Post Post #650 (isolation #129) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:06 pm

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In post 641, cyrus62 wrote:@vork you been to concend about roles this game insted of realy scum hunti
Yes... God forbid I care about mechanics... in a game filled with them.
*ahem*
But yeah- I think understanding the setup outprioritizes conventional scumhunting- especially how weak dayplay is in a Bastard game.
I also think it's compete BS that you bring this up considering I have a nice read list where you know my position on literally every player here.... but ok.

Also- if you think yesterday's "slip" wagon in me was going through then.... :facepalm:
I think you're OMGUS-ing because I said early on that you have cult equity.
In post 390, Vorkuta wrote: Also I'm concerned that
In post 246, Vorkuta wrote:hypothetical cultleader!baezu is now laughing like a maniac.
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Post Post #655 (isolation #130) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:33 pm

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In post 652, cyrus62 wrote:you fool
1- sure let's ignore the rest of my post
2- rocket scientists like you need to be put in your place
Spoiler:
In post 583, Not Known 15 wrote:
Vote Count 1.LYNCH
korina(100000000000)
MODKILL
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shos (1)cyrus62;

Doctor Drew (3)Chickadee;shos;gameplay506;

PMysterious (1)Iconeum;

nomnomnom (1)Vorkuta;

Vorkuta (4)nomnomnom;Doctor Drew;RCEnigma;Chemist1422;

Not Voting (2)Baezu;PMysterious;

It's 7 for a majority lynch.

Day 1 ends.



Korina has been revived, modkilled, and turned into a Survivor for breaking the rules.

Night 1 begins. It will end in (expired on 2019-10-15 16:47:00).

3 on Drew, 4 on me- I vote Drew in self preservation, it becomes a 50/50 tie so my lynch isn't guaranteed.
you fool

And if you think I'm incapable of rallying literally anyone to lynch the cult-recruiter
or at leastvmy scumbuddy/ies hurr durr
then... like... :yawn:
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Post Post #661 (isolation #131) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:48 pm

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Can't get behind nom- I've decided on
In post 563, Vorkuta wrote:But this feels genuine with you invoking "first time evar" so idk
+
Nom' s lack of followup
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Post Post #767 (isolation #132) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:24 am

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In post 765, Not Known 15 wrote:Formerfish died Night 2.
Looks like it
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Post Post #768 (isolation #133) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:26 am

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VOTE: cyrus

All y'all who were like "drew is a jester" have cult equity.

Also I'm assuming we're in Lylo so lets think about the massclaim
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Post Post #774 (isolation #134) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:04 am

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In post 770, gameplay506 wrote:Why are we in LyLo?
What takes more effort- ISO'ing me to find the post where I do the math or actually doing the math? :P
Anyway
13 players- 9:3:1
D1= 8:3:1 (rip Korina)
N1= 6:3:2 (NK + Cult)
D2 = 7:3:2 (rip Drew)
N2 = 6:3:2 (rip FFish)

Now my issue is that I refuse to believe that Drew was the ONLY role that is useful to the cult.
Such a setup would be quite broken with a D1 kill of their only recruiter.
Also there could be an actual third party (survivor? jester? idk)
That's why I'm going to put a "wild-card" role which could be literally anything but town

D3= 5:3:2:1 => idk but not good IMHO
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Post Post #775 (isolation #135) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:07 am

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In post 772, shos wrote:and let the other scum kill cyrus
why would.... *scratches head*
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Post Post #778 (isolation #136) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:40 am

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In post 776, shos wrote:a game with a cult cannot have 3 mafiosi
I'm just mathing out the worst case scenario for today.
"hope for the best, plan for the worst" or whatever the exact wording of that inspirational quote was

Could be 2 scum
Could be just 1 SK ( :igmeou:)

And you'd be surprised at what this mod may considers to be "balanced" in his NORMAL GAMES
ok fine mini 2058 was mastina's setup but still
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Post Post #779 (isolation #137) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:44 am

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In post 777, shos wrote:obviously because cult know their partners and are thus more likely to vote scum than townies?
can you spoonfeed and ELI5?

In the 5:2:2 setup
The 2 cultists have just as much knowledge as the 2 mafia- they each have a 2/7 (voting their own team *smh*) chance of crossfiring

oh that's what you mean
town: 2/9 chance to hit scum, 2/9 chance to hit cult
scum: 5/7 chance to hit town, 2/7 chance to hit cult
cult: same as ^

and for those statistical reasons alone...?
*scratches head*
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Post Post #780 (isolation #138) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:46 am

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fuck did i get my math wrong and forget to factor in selfvoting?
sloppy.
tired.
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Post Post #782 (isolation #139) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:16 am

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nom is hunting for another slip I see.
As is tradition
In post 776, shos wrote:we are now at 5:2:2
In shos' hypothetical 5 town, 2 scum, 2 cult scenario...
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Post Post #784 (isolation #140) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:19 am

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UNVOTE:
fuck
forgot quick/lol hammering might've been a thing
I hammertested and hit positive
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Post Post #785 (isolation #141) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:20 am

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In post 783, nomnomnom wrote:I'm completely in the dark here
Btw, this goes without saying, but I absolutely love town!spew attempts like these and nom has scored many townpoints with me by coming clean and saying this to all of us
/s
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Post Post #787 (isolation #142) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:26 am

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ha. ha. haaa. no
Especially considering how you were obv!wrong with your """slip"""" D1, and "Drew is jester", you have infinitely more 'bad faction' equity than I do,

cyrus -> jigglypuff -> nom -> chickadee -> shos -> gameplay -> ico -> chemist
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Post Post #789 (isolation #143) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:28 am

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Remind me again when shos became my scum partner.
Was it before or after RCE died?
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Post Post #795 (isolation #144) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:26 pm

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In post 794, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: icon
Unvote before we have a mess on our hands
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Post Post #809 (isolation #145) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:04 pm

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In post 800, Chemist1422 wrote:why am I last I've done nothing to clear myself
As I've mentioned somewhere else, I bought your "depressed with the Bastard game setup" as town-spew and think it's a below the belt move for you to pull that as scum/cult.
Ofc IIRC that's the post where I "slipped" so It's understandable that people forgot about that detail in the ensuring chaos
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Post Post #816 (isolation #146) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:34 pm

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@cyrus- are your reads ever going to evolve past past surface level OMGUS or....?

Also casual reminder that korina got modkilled to prevent my lynch.
Or are we backtracking on that theory?
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Post Post #820 (isolation #147) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:33 pm

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In post 818, cyrus62 wrote:hiding behind that now are we
Your theory, not mine.
Hence the question.

I never seriously acknowledged it
In post 818, cyrus62 wrote:you both sticking together proves im right.
Since d1, back when I was scum with RCE. BUT ok
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Post Post #829 (isolation #148) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:18 am

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In post 826, Iconeum wrote:this game has been advertised as BASTARD, and you think you know the exact number of PR's vs VT?
Yes
Cyrus is obviously speculating out of his backside, but I have some """"insight"""""
In post 6895, Not Known 15 wrote:Flavor/Mechanics:At least 50% of all players will get a bastard role. Other than this.. it could contain bastard and non-bastard mechanics.
6 VTs & 7bastard roles
Ez
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Anyway "at least" is amazingly ambiguous.
Scum could have a Bastard roll and a noBastard roll or whatever combination
Let's do the math after the MC
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Post Post #840 (isolation #149) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:08 am

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I swear he selectively reads what captures his interest and ignores the rest
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Post Post #850 (isolation #150) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:33 am

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In post 847, cyrus62 wrote:i did read all you said
In post 796, Chickadee wrote:But if you'd been paying attention I don't think you'd need my claim.
In post 838, cyrus62 wrote:then there's no vt left.
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In post 0, Not Known 15 wrote:
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2.You may have access to private threads (e.g. Mafia factional chat); you can talk about this game there, but you may not quote anything from them outside of the PT. You may not quote any game-related PMs without express permission by your game mod.
3.Play to win this game.
4.Lurking: You will be prodded after 2 days of no substantial contribution(no prod dodging). After 24 hours of an unanswered prod I will search for a replacement(unless V/LA). Four prods in total, or two prods in one day will result in an instant replacement. ASK FOR REPLACEMENT IN A PM.
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Post Post #869 (isolation #152) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:49 pm

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I dont understand half of what I'm saying after I finish typing it and look over it again :good:
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Post Post #879 (isolation #153) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:04 am

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In post 870, cyrus62 wrote:im going do a popcorn as i am sick of waiting. i am vt . popcorn to vork
In post 871, cyrus62 wrote:come on y are you and shos delaying the mass clime
These posts were 2 and a half hours apart.
I love it.

Anyway it's @shos seeing as you all but claimed already back in
In post 822, cyrus62 wrote:besides my self
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Post Post #883 (isolation #154) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:47 am

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Urge.... to... use... Beetlejuice tell..... must... resist....

Anyway- let's see how many more VTs show up before we start wagons as quickhammers suck
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Post Post #885 (isolation #155) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:50 am

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In post 829, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 6895, Not Known 15 wrote:Flavor/Mechanics:At least 50% of all players will get a bastard role. Other than this.. it could contain bastard and non-bastard mechanics.
6 VTs & 7bastard roles
Ez
/s


Anyway "at least" is amazingly ambiguous.
Scum could have a Bastard roll and a noBastard roll or whatever combination
Let's do the math after the MC
Purely for math reasons- best case scenario, we know how many liars there are
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Post Post #890 (isolation #156) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:31 am

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Ayt time to bookeep

shos- VT #
PMysterious- VT #
nomnomnom- VT #
Iconeum- PR #823
cyrus62- VT #
Vorkuta- ??
gameplay506- ??
Chemist1422- ??
Chickadee- ??

---Dead----

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Baezu/FF- VT #
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Post Post #891 (isolation #157) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:32 am

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Anyway, we're already over our "non bastard roles" quota
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Post Post #893 (isolation #158) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:00 am

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Shos' popcorn turn
also pls take the hint
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Post Post #900 (isolation #159) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:48 am

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In post 899, Iconeum wrote:on at least 50% of power roles
*bastard roles
Traditional (without Bastard modifiers) PRs fall under the VT quota.
I'm also assuming that normal scumroles (i.e not godfather) fall under said quota.

So in shos's 5:2:2, assuming 1 goon, we're even worse off in terms of liars.
I now thing we should've done like "bastard/not-bastard"
But nom just wanted to do literally anything without properly thinking it through so here we are
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Post Post #901 (isolation #160) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:49 am

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In post 900, Vorkuta wrote:I now thing
Phoneposting
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Post Post #908 (isolation #161) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:08 am

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Would scum!shos pull something this dumb and obvious?

and we're waiting on gameplay to check in anyway so.... like....
also can we not put anyone in quickhammer range? kthx
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Post Post #910 (isolation #162) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:21 am

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So ignore my genuine attempt at a read and call it deflecting. Cool.

Or were you referring to "hey lets wait for gameplay"?
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Post Post #921 (isolation #163) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:34 pm

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In post 920, nomnomnom wrote:tight time limit as well.
In post 906, Not Known 15 wrote:4 days, 11 hours, 30 minutes.
In post 908, Vorkuta wrote:waiting on gameplay to check in anyway
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Post Post #927 (isolation #164) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:26 pm

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In post 924, nomnomnom wrote:think there's one scum in shos, vorkuta and cyrus.
>9 players remaining
>(cult + mafia) = 4~5
>pick 3 players at random
>proclaim that there's 1 scum in them
>math checks out

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Post Post #931 (isolation #165) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:37 pm

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In post 930, cyrus62 wrote:hey i'll help you lynch me if you think im scum
Ngl, I wanna see this
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Post Post #933 (isolation #166) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:55 pm

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༼つ◕_◕༽つ @mod giff prod

inb4 scum!gameplay is panicking trying to decide how best to fakeclaim
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Post Post #936 (isolation #167) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:51 am

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In post 890, Vorkuta wrote:Ayt time to bookeep

shos- VT #
PMysterious- VT #
nomnomnom- VT #
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Chickadee- ??

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Post Post #941 (isolation #168) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:19 am

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In post 938, shos wrote:ISO 45+.
I'm dumb- whats this?
In post 939, nomnomnom wrote:town!vork would have already lost his mind with you
Have you ever seen me do that?
I lose my mind with rocket scientists and obstructionists all the time sure, but gameplay isn't even here so why bother raising my blood pressure?
In post 940, shos wrote:Here's an idea: YOU choose who goes next!
Nom prolly wants me to go so let's not give nom TOO much power :good:
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Post Post #943 (isolation #169) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:44 am

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shhh sweetie it's ok
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Post Post #948 (isolation #170) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:32 pm

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this is my contribution
In post 933, Vorkuta wrote:༼つ◕_◕༽つ @mod giff prod
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Post Post #952 (isolation #171) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:35 pm

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In post 429, Vorkuta wrote:Cult equity
oh yes *ahem* I can answer this

I think cyrus is our starter cultist
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Post Post #957 (isolation #172) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:44 pm

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In post 954, Chickadee wrote:Look at me engage.
I buy this AtE- the reengage attempt feels more or less genuine, and I'll be butthurt if scum!chikadee has this in her scum repertoire
In post 956, nomnomnom wrote:I'll request you don't answer that
there's a reason why I half-assed that post without more quotes, so we're on the same page.

However

shos said he's gonna ignore you

so.....
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Post Post #959 (isolation #173) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:53 pm

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as much as I hate you and don't have any beef with shos

I concur

@shos- stonewalling the MC? ok sure fine wtv
Outright IGNORING nom? not cool
Like at least milk it and hope that nom "slips", or accidentally outs partners, or whatever.
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Post Post #967 (isolation #174) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:25 pm

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In post 948, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 933, Vorkuta wrote:༼つ◕_◕༽つ @mod giff prod
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Post Post #968 (isolation #175) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:25 pm

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In post 965, Chickadee wrote:Vork I want you to claim next.
1- cute
2- pretty much already did
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Post Post #972 (isolation #176) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:11 pm

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In post 969, Chickadee wrote:Could you just play along.
nonbastard PR- crumbed it

popcorn to gameplay HURR DURR
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Post Post #973 (isolation #177) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:13 pm

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or chemist can officially full claim VT if he wants to
it would give me a nice post # for bookkeeping reasons

also rip me at night
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Post Post #975 (isolation #178) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:31 pm

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nom, darling, like...

You understand that I'm going to play this differently depending on whether I think today is proper Lylo or not.
And that kind of heavily depends on the math

shos's 5:2:2 vs my 4:3:1:1/4:2:2:1
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Post Post #977 (isolation #179) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:53 pm

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In post 976, nomnomnom wrote:It still makes no sense to think that there was a cult in the first place
Hence 4:3:
1
:1 (town-scum-cult-3p/wildcard) being one of my options.

6:2:1:0 is being waaaay tooooo naive IMHO.
Plus (casual reminder) we've already used up our non-bastard role quotas so people are lying.
I MIGHT buy "oh I'm not actually VT, I just have a bastard negative utility roll" from some people as an excuse for not being honest, but that's the beauty of bastard-quota: it's NAI.
In post 976, nomnomnom wrote:You still think shos is not scum?
Considering our most recent game together (robb in EMM- also what I was referring to in spoilers baaaaack then) and the death tunneler's flip, I'm forced to reconsider how I treat blind tunneling and its AI implications.
shos' play so far has been quite anti-town for sure, but he's built up decent goodwill back in D1 and D2 so at best I can demote him to just null.
Spoiler:
In post 197, Vorkuta wrote:And of course there's something you should know but neither of us are allowed to discuss
In post 199, Vorkuta wrote::facepalm:
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Post Post #979 (isolation #180) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:12 pm

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2 game days and 800 posts ago so I'm pretty sure the relevance has expired but it was a supporting argument in blanket statement of "you say I'm scum in every game we have out of principle, thus people- take nom's preaching with a grain of salt"
We've moved past that now.
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Post Post #980 (isolation #181) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:20 pm

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Ayt time to bookeep volume 2

---not-Ded---
shos- VT #
PMysterious- VT #
nomnomnom- VT #
Iconeum- prolly bastard-PR #
cyrus62- VT #
Vorkuta- prolly not-bastard-PR #
gameplay506- ??
Chemist1422- basically VT #
Chickadee- VT #

---Dead----
RCEnigma- VT #
Baezu/FF- VT #
Korina- ??? (modkilled, but I'm assuming ???) (Bastard role)
Doctor Drew- recruiter # (Bastard role)

---Verdict---
Best case scenario of 6non/7bastard (casual reminder that this is the BARE MINIMUM from the mod's wording- 2 non-bastard roles and 11 bastard roles also satisfies the "at least 50% wording)

Now the question- are people "lying" intentionally, or because the mod lied to them as well?
Discuss
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Post Post #981 (isolation #182) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:21 pm

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Like hell
I'm willing to consider the possibility that my roll might be bastardizedf/tampered with
That's still too many VTs
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Post Post #982 (isolation #183) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:24 pm

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{Chika, Chemist}
{shos. nom}
{cyrus, jigglypuff}

I think this is how I want to play it
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Post Post #984 (isolation #184) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:32 pm

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VT read list
{town}
{null}
{scum}

It'd be great to determine whether anyone had a 180 personality shift after being recruited after D1
or what the recruitment criteria EVEN WERE (7:1:1 anyone? :P) but yeah
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Post Post #988 (isolation #185) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:34 am

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I take some responsibility for discouraging wagons due to quickhammer fears.
But now..... :/
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Post Post #1001 (isolation #186) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:52 am

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In post 991, Chickadee wrote:Where did people find that at least 50% of roles will be bastard roles?
It was advertised as such- the quote below links you to the game signup post
Spoiler:
In post 829, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 826, Iconeum wrote:this game has been advertised as BASTARD, and you think you know the exact number of PR's vs VT?
Yes
Cyrus is obviously speculating out of his backside, but I have some """"insight"""""
In post 6895, Not Known 15 wrote:Flavor/Mechanics:At least 50% of all players will get a bastard role. Other than this.. it could contain bastard and non-bastard mechanics.
6 VTs & 7bastard roles
Ez
/s


Anyway "at least" is amazingly ambiguous.
Scum could have a Bastard roll and a noBastard roll or whatever combination
Let's do the math after the MC

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Post Post #1003 (isolation #187) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:07 am

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He thinks it might be 5:3:1
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Post Post #1005 (isolation #188) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:25 am

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In post 1004, Chickadee wrote:I'm just gonna throw a wild theory out there. The sign up post is not in the truth of text color.
@mod

Can you kindly confirm that the information in the signup thread was honest?
In post 6895, Not Known 15 wrote:/
In to mod:


Game Name:Extremely Bastard

Flavor/Mechanics:
At least 50% of all players will get a bastard role. Other than this.. it could contain bastard and non-bastard mechanics.
Your Experience:
Link
Current Modding Commitments:Co-mod for a Large Theme(Planned)

Reviewed By:
Nobody
Back-Up or Co-Mod:
Nobody(yet but I will not actively search someone)
Number of Players:
13
Hydrae:
Will you allow hydra to sign-up?
Yes.
Restrictions:
Are there restrictions for who can play your game?
No.
Is it possible your game has any of the following bastard roles or mechanics?
cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game

Yes.
Obviously.
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Post Post #1006 (isolation #189) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:26 am

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In post 1004, Chickadee wrote:So I want Vork to completely and fully claim or eat rope.
gameplay comes back, claims
VT
bastard/non-bastard, I decide my next steps and proceed with what I think should be optimal.
I'm not picky- I can fullclaim before ico
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Post Post #1008 (isolation #190) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:43 am

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It depends on wincon wordings

Town is "all threats"
Mafia is typically "(nothing can prevent) reaching majority" but also can be "all other factions ded" https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... _Condition
Cultist is (looking at the CultD3 open setup) is the same as ^

Plus I want to plug my wildcard theory a few more times.

Also come on- how many "12p" Mini games last until D4 where town doesn't lynch (or vig or smth) a single scum by then?
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Post Post #1009 (isolation #191) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:46 am

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*with a modkill that punishes town
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Post Post #1017 (isolation #192) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:29 am

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In post 980, Vorkuta wrote:Now the question- are people "lying" intentionally, or because the mod lied to them as well?
Discuss
No- first time :igmeou:
But ok- we have >2 VTs who are actually..... what?
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Post Post #1021 (isolation #193) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:55 am

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In post 1018, shos wrote:Any chance this is a townslip?
I'd love that :good:
But full disclosure- the mod has in in post 0
In post 0, Not Known 15 wrote:Win Condition:Remove all threats to the Town.
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Post Post #1023 (isolation #194) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:00 am

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have I cult slipped in this game as well?
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Post Post #1026 (isolation #195) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:58 am

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VOTE: Jigglypuff
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Post Post #1027 (isolation #196) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:59 am

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clarification
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #197) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:09 am

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cyrus just.... no :facepalm:
In post 472, Not Known 15 wrote:then that tie between the people who have the highest number of votes is resolved randomly.
RANDOMLY

not "one scum and one vts the vt will die"
RANDOMLY

50-50
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Post Post #1033 (isolation #198) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:15 am

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In post 472, Not Known 15 wrote:no person has more than one vote on them, then a random townie is lynched, if possible.
This is probably what you're referring to

But that would literally require.... you know... 0 or 1 votes on literally everyone
Which won't happen by deadline
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Post Post #1039 (isolation #199) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:02 pm

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In post 1036, Iconeum wrote:IF THERE IS ANYBODY TOWNREADING CHICKADEE, SPEAK NOW AND DISCUSS PLEASE.
Town-spew back when game was dead and "rolled VT 18 times in a row" read as genuine
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