Mini Normal 2101 - Electronic Music Mafia [GAME OVER]


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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:55 pm

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VOTE: nom
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Post Post #19 (isolation #1) » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:36 am

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VOTE: pmysterous
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Post Post #87 (isolation #2) » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:46 am

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In post 29, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 28, Luca Blight wrote:Why might it be enticing?
Same reason why I voted tchill: awkward entrance. Call me crazy but I pay a lot of attention to wording. Tchill ending a sentence with "lol." makes me feel awkward, possibly because I've rarely seen someone put a dot after a "lol" which makes the post sound forced but I might be wrong.

Havo is more or less the same reason: the two posts gave me this feeling: "hi! Oh crap I forgot to vote like everyone else usually does HERE'S A RANDOM PERSON", which also sounds a bit forced.

Again, might sound crazy, but I've caught scum this way before so hey :P
Have you done this as scum before
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Post Post #144 (isolation #3) » Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:38 am

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In post 88, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 87, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 29, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 28, Luca Blight wrote:Why might it be enticing?
Same reason why I voted tchill: awkward entrance. Call me crazy but I pay a lot of attention to wording. Tchill ending a sentence with "lol." makes me feel awkward, possibly because I've rarely seen someone put a dot after a "lol" which makes the post sound forced but I might be wrong.

Havo is more or less the same reason: the two posts gave me this feeling: "hi! Oh crap I forgot to vote like everyone else usually does HERE'S A RANDOM PERSON", which also sounds a bit forced.

Again, might sound crazy, but I've caught scum this way before so hey :P
Have you done this as scum before
Well technically those are mishaps so you wouldn't want to do that intentionally. I do care about my wording sometimes as it can give away subconscious information though.
Sorry, i meant have you cased them as scum before

Idek if this is still relevant but im catching up now
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Post Post #145 (isolation #4) » Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:43 am

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I need to more closely look into rob vs azure
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Post Post #247 (isolation #5) » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:49 am

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As much as enjoy watching people make each other miserable my brain is too mush to try and discern alignments from it
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Post Post #289 (isolation #6) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:06 am

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I have to catch up

I remember skimming after the flip. The vote before vork's looked worse than vorks hammer
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Post Post #290 (isolation #7) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:10 am

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In post 277, Vorkuta wrote:You say that because you're implicated so :igmeou:
On the other hand what the hell is this
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Post Post #291 (isolation #8) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:10 am

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VOTE: vork
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Post Post #293 (isolation #9) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:42 am

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Im working on it

There's not much for me to make out of D1 tbh.

Nom wasn't making head on pants wrong posts which theyve done as scum before, but that's not particularly unveiling anymore.
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Post Post #306 (isolation #10) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:25 pm

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Shade vork then vote fall???
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Post Post #318 (isolation #11) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:03 am

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In post 307, skitter30 wrote:i dislike both of them
Is there more than one post that pings you?
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Post Post #324 (isolation #12) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:13 am

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If I were scum I'd lynch toxicity for the sake of not draining myself just to win a game
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Post Post #356 (isolation #13) » Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:20 pm

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I will get to this tomorrow
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Post Post #386 (isolation #14) » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:18 am

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Super interested in what pmysterious is going to have for reads
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Post Post #387 (isolation #15) » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:20 am

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In post 351, Havo wrote:@Flub. If Vork is scum who’s most likely his partner?

What’s your reads on Tchill and Rob?
I don't really look for associations w/o flips.

Let me iso those two.
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Post Post #388 (isolation #16) » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:26 am

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Tchill looks pretty town. I would have liked to have seen them do more than just two things D1 (azure placate & nom push) but I'm pretty sympathetic to why that isn't the case. They deff had a good effort to try and dig the game out of the situation it was in, and I believe them when they say they wouldn't do that as scum.
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Post Post #395 (isolation #17) » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:23 am

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The majority of rob's play D1 was an azure tunnel which deff doesn't ring town. Town does tunnel too so it's not lockscum but I wouldn't have much concern if a wagon sprung up here.

That being said their D2 play looks a little better
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Post Post #397 (isolation #18) » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:32 am

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I have no memory of playing with you
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Post Post #398 (isolation #19) » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:33 am

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I get confused a lot with fluminator fwiw
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Post Post #399 (isolation #20) » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:34 am

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That meta works both ways though. Why is my activity grounds for putting me in your lynch pile?
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Post Post #402 (isolation #21) » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:55 am

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I don't remember beck tunneling

I just remember Jake from State Farm being dramatic

I guess I'll note it but that's some stale ass meta for me to be working with
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Post Post #403 (isolation #22) » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:56 am

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In post 399, Flubbernugget wrote:That meta works both ways though. Why is my activity grounds for putting me in your lynch pile?
This holds even more if youre familiar with my older games btw
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Post Post #422 (isolation #23) » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:06 pm

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In post 419, Robbnva wrote:Can we just consolidate onto vork? He’s criticized others for doing the same he has. His top scum read is omgus, he’s not explaining his reads and he certainly isn’t trying to sort people.
Sounds good

Pmysterious needs rope too
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Post Post #453 (isolation #24) » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:51 pm

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I'm going to look at this tomorrow
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Post Post #468 (isolation #25) » Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:57 am

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In post 431, skitter30 wrote:
In post 388, Flubbernugget wrote:Tchill looks pretty town. I would have liked to have seen them do more than just two things D1 (azure placate & nom push) but I'm pretty sympathetic to why that isn't the case. They deff had a good effort to try and dig the game out of the situation it was in, and I believe them when they say they wouldn't do that as scum.
Where do you think he tried to dig the game out of the situation it was in ????
The azure coaching would normally ring between nai and scummy, but coupled with how he was trying to investigate how people were reacting to azure looked pretty town
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Post Post #469 (isolation #26) » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:03 am

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VOTE: flavor leaf

Luca is correct.
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Post Post #503 (isolation #27) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:54 am

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Skitter,

If vork as scum can have issues with waning activity, why would they be playing into robb's tunnel so hard while the vork wagon dies down? Seems like a perfect opportunity to lay low
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Post Post #527 (isolation #28) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:43 am

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In post 525, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don’t have really thoughts and I was just blowing smoke on my entrance. I have trouble grasping games and getting reads when i replace in under fire.
This doesnt sound like you at all
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Post Post #549 (isolation #29) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:08 am

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In post 534, skitter30 wrote:
In post 503, Flubbernugget wrote:Skitter,

If vork as scum can have issues with waning activity, why would they be playing into robb's tunnel so hard while the vork wagon dies down? Seems like a perfect opportunity to lay low
he responds to pressure as scum iirc, when he isn't like ~needed~ he tends to fade into the background
That's what I'm saying though

It doesn't feel like it's needed here
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Post Post #550 (isolation #30) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:09 am

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In post 546, Robbnva wrote:All right guys and gals. Having surgery in the morning. Won’t be active much tomorrow.
Best of luck
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Post Post #581 (isolation #31) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:05 am

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Do you specifically want vork to answer? Cuz I've got two off the top of my head that seem obvious
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Post Post #585 (isolation #32) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:09 am

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You uhhh already hit the nail on the head

It makes townie noises w/o much effort, but also robb's stake in meta probs means he feels like he has to play like that as scum too
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Post Post #591 (isolation #33) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:17 am

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In post 586, Tchill13 wrote:townie noises? how is tunneling townie?
It's easy to fatigue people into reading the tunnel participants as null/town

At least that's what happens to me
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Post Post #592 (isolation #34) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:18 am

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In post 588, Tchill13 wrote:can anyone pushing robb determine what his scum tunneling looks like opposed to his town tunneling? because if you cant. his tunneling is NAI.
I will flat out admit I have no clue how to read Robb
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Post Post #594 (isolation #35) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:19 am

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Really doesn't matter
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Post Post #614 (isolation #36) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:00 am

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In post 608, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 395, Flubbernugget wrote:The majority of rob's play D1 was an azure tunnel which deff doesn't ring town. Town does tunnel too so it's not lockscum but I wouldn't have much concern if a wagon sprung up here.

That being said their D2 play looks a little better
I thought tunneling was townie?
It's a cheap way to try to look town
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Post Post #628 (isolation #37) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:24 am

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Uhhh how am i lonked to vork regardless of alignment
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Post Post #629 (isolation #38) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:25 am

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Linked
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Post Post #646 (isolation #39) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:00 pm

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I don't see an issue with those tchill votes
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Post Post #647 (isolation #40) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:01 pm

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Posts not votes
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Post Post #706 (isolation #41) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:58 pm

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Not lynching Luca or Tchill today

I know I'm town. So I really just need one more person I'm comfortable not lynching to start thinking about this
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Post Post #707 (isolation #42) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:59 pm

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In post 686, Luca Blight wrote:Tchill directs the invest onto Flavor, meaning it will be wasted when Flavor is night killed. He also has motive for killing Flavor as they are familiar with each other’s game.
You're saying tchill investigated flavor then killed them?
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Post Post #708 (isolation #43) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:02 pm

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In post 700, Havo wrote:
In post 688, Luca Blight wrote:Not to mention Flavor’s only specified SR was Skitter, if I recall correctly.

Everything is pointing towards Skitter, Havo and Tchill being the scumteam, provided there really is three scum.

Its possible I could be wrong on either Robb or Flubs so I’ll look into them shortly.
A scum team of myself, Tchill and Skitter makes sense how?

I’ve all but outright defended Tchill and had Skitter as a top TR.

Have any of us even FOSd the other?

You think we would make it that obvious?
All of those points sound like perfectly normal scum play. Esp the fos thing
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Post Post #745 (isolation #44) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:55 am

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In post 730, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 706, Flubbernugget wrote:Not lynching Luca or Tchill today

I know I'm town. So I really just need one more person I'm comfortable not lynching to start thinking about this
why wouldnt you lynch me???
I've town read you to some extent for most of the game and i cant say that about most other players

This isn't obvious?
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Post Post #746 (isolation #45) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:56 am

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In post 724, skitter30 wrote:the third one i get,
i wasn't aware that he was tr'ing tchill that hard tho
Is this in reference to me not wanting to lynch him today?
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Post Post #747 (isolation #46) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:01 am

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Hmmm

So now the dont lynch list has hard confirms

Luca/PM/Robb(???)
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Post Post #748 (isolation #47) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:03 am

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So lynch pool is

{Me, skitter, tchill, havo}
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Post Post #749 (isolation #48) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:05 am

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I suppose I need to start towntelling huh
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Post Post #763 (isolation #49) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:20 pm

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I'm here

Have to think about the setup
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Post Post #904 (isolation #50) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:01 am

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Im vt

Catching up
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Post Post #905 (isolation #51) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:05 am

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In post 793, Luca Blight wrote:Tchill’s looking like desperate scum atm.
I had like no reads this game and the strongest TR i had in the game is now shading conftowns

I normally don't play well, but shit, I really do feel bad here
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Post Post #906 (isolation #52) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:09 am

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Game feels broken by massclaim w/ skitters joat claim
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Post Post #907 (isolation #53) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:10 am

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In post 795, Robbnva wrote:
In post 258, Skygazer wrote:Azuresky (6):
Robbnva
, Luca Blight,
Fallsoul
, Tchill13,
Azuresky
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Vorkuta
In post 677, Skygazer wrote:Vorkuta (5):
Robbnva
, skitter30, Havo, Tchill13, Luca Blight
so just on the surface, one of tchill and luca are scum. Sure it could be an all town wagon but those are rare.


I need to look at the NKs and see who each of those guys were suspecting to see if I can get anything from that.
Luca is conftown soo
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Post Post #908 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:11 am

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In post 812, skitter30 wrote:
In post 809, Robbnva wrote:
In post 807, skitter30 wrote:Did you even claim yet
no, and I won't be
Well this is a dumb hill to die on
Didnt someone conf robb
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Post Post #912 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:23 am

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In post 821, Robbnva wrote:Image

you said there are multiple claims already, so you don't really need mine.

If you want to policy lynch me go ahead but I don't care about dying. Probably would be doing me a favor.
Town loses if they get policy lynched here

Scum doesn't. Makes more sense for a policy to be a favor in this scenario
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Post Post #913 (isolation #56) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:24 am

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In post 829, skitter30 wrote:Luca's vt
Wait W H A T
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Post Post #914 (isolation #57) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:25 am

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In post 833, Luca Blight wrote:The reason I had thought Robb was Town was because I received a Mod pm saying PM is Town and I thought the mod had sent the cop’s result to me by accident. When everyone but Robb had announced suspicion of PM I assumed Robb was cop, but this theory is no longer relevant given PM’s claim, hence the retracting of my stance on Robb.
Oh. For some reason i thought you claimed cop
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Post Post #915 (isolation #58) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:30 am

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Okay I need sense of the claims right now bc I'm obvs missing stuff

Skitter has a clear on luca, who recieved a clear from pm

Havo is motion detector but has no clears

Skitter, who was your second investigation?

What else am I missing?
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Post Post #916 (isolation #59) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:32 am

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In post 911, skitter30 wrote:I think my preferred lynch rn is tchill
Down for this or a robb lynch rn
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Post Post #947 (isolation #60) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:37 pm

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Lol
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Post Post #952 (isolation #61) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:54 pm

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I mean

I had to come to conclusion that I have to survive in order to win today

Scum knows that from D1
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Post Post #954 (isolation #62) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:56 pm

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Also, azure died d1, noone could sort rob, and I didnt follow up like there was something wrong with pmysterious's reads because there really wasnt
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Post Post #979 (isolation #63) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:59 pm

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In post 976, Havo wrote:Because I can read him. And no there’s nothing specific I can point too to convince you he’s town. Just my experience from playing with him.
How many games have you two played together?
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Post Post #981 (isolation #64) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:02 pm

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...what? He was just 80% town
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Post Post #984 (isolation #65) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:05 pm

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Ugh, if all we have pr wise is joat and motion detector havo is probabaly town
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Post Post #985 (isolation #66) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:05 pm

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In post 983, Havo wrote:
In post 981, Flubbernugget wrote:...what? He was just 80% town
Look again Flub.
Lmaoooo
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Post Post #986 (isolation #67) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:07 pm

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In post 984, Flubbernugget wrote:Ugh, if all we have pr wise is joat and motion detector havo is probabaly town
No there's the fn too shit
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Post Post #987 (isolation #68) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:08 pm

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Makes sense for robb not to submit a kill since hes unanimously unreadable
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Post Post #1042 (isolation #69) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:25 am

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I think we missed a chance to confirm cuz idk if the mod would count that with the misspell
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #70) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:18 am

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^^agreed

Though from a balance perspective scum probabaly shouldnt feel cornered this close to a perfect game for them?
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Post Post #1046 (isolation #71) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:19 am

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Idk cuz the setup still seems mostly balanced
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #72) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:19 am

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I'd want to lynch through robb/tchill and then havo if we're looking at a third
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Post Post #1048 (isolation #73) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:20 am

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Robb and tchill arent in any particular order
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Post Post #1063 (isolation #74) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:34 am

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In post 1057, Tchill13 wrote:having a bajillion ppl conftown in a possible lylo defeats the purpose of the game as scum or as town.
Not really
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Post Post #1066 (isolation #75) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:41 am

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I did the math on this.

Assuming a random lynch town is still in a bad position.

Lynch pool is {me, tchill, havo, robb} with 7 alive.

So chance of town winning with a random lynch is (3/4)*(2/3)*(1/2) or 25%

Towns do worse than random on top of this
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #76) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:42 am

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In post 1060, Tchill13 wrote:i could argue conftowns make the game easier for scum.

all you gotta do is manipulate the conftowns. nobody else.

when theres not conftowns youre manipulating the group in general.
Then why the hell are you complaining about this in the first place?
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Post Post #1069 (isolation #77) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:45 am

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In post 1064, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1047, Flubbernugget wrote:I'd want to lynch through robb/tchill and then havo if we're looking at a third
I want tchill or havo today
Why havo today? Do you think 3 scum?

I'm kinda conflicted bc the motion detector reads green w/ three scum and red w/ two. We have that mislynch to go after havo in the latter case
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #78) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:45 am

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Do I need to cross yet
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Post Post #1071 (isolation #79) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:46 am

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VOTE: tchill
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Post Post #1074 (isolation #80) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:46 am

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Nobody is jumping on shading a conftown LMAO
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #81) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:49 am

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How do you expect people to hop on shading a conftown when the site panders to town by your own admission holy shit
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Post Post #1081 (isolation #82) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:51 am

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In post 1076, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1074, Flubbernugget wrote:Nobody is jumping on shading a conftown LMAO
thank you for presenting the case as to why i am town.
If you are town this site needs to pander harder because that gambit is as dumb as a suggestion box for the PAP
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #83) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:54 am

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I'm towning it up fine now calm yourself
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #84) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:56 am

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I'm actually in a very specific positon where it's more important for me to look town than it is for scum to do so and if you had a problem with that you would have said something when I first brought it up (or maybe the second time too)
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Post Post #1096 (isolation #85) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:00 am

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Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1089, Flubbernugget wrote:I'm actually in a very specific positon where it's more important for me to look town than it is for scum to do so and if you had a problem with that you would have said something when I first brought it up (or maybe the second time too)
a very specific position after poor to low activity on days 1 and 2.

quite convenient.
Incredibly!

I already said something about that.
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #86) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:02 am

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Like again, I throw the game if I'm lurking as EITHER alignment as is, but moreso as town
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Post Post #1102 (isolation #87) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:03 am

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Why do you think there's only two scum?
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Post Post #1109 (isolation #88) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:08 am

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In post 1107, Tchill13 wrote:yes you caught havo/tchill on what is a gross misplay of scum.

pat yourself on the back robb.
The first time I was ever scum was offsite and this was pretty close to the exact post i made when i was called out
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Post Post #1196 (isolation #89) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:48 am

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That's...unexpected
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Post Post #1206 (isolation #90) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:48 am

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In post 1201, Havo wrote:The Only way town loses here is if town lynches TOWN, Havo or Tchill, then stupidly lynches the other one the next day.
This means you know there's two scum?
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Post Post #1296 (isolation #91) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:41 am

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In post 1281, Tchill13 wrote:did flubb EVER explain why he ever had me as a DO NOT LYNCH?
Motherfucker YES
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Post Post #1297 (isolation #92) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:45 am

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In post 1265, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1194, Luca Blight wrote:You know what, I actually think Flubs is the most likely of anyone to flip scum right now. Nothing about his iso makes me feel like he’s Town.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Flubbernugget

I’m happy enough to Lynch any of these three but I think this is my slight preference.
Uh how do you go from tchill/havo/flubb like this?
Of the 3 i still vastly prefer tchill i think
Why did you settle on flubber here
Tchill has more patience than me to repeat himself over and over and it's starting to affect luca's gut
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Post Post #1298 (isolation #93) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:50 am

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For those following at home

Tchill freaked out during massclaim, tried to shade a conftown, than made a TRANSPARENT ass lie to cover himself that robb ripped into for about three pages

Havo slipped knowledge of there being two scum while having a power that makes perfect sense for a scum pair given the other pr claims

And I'm at L1 for lurking
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Post Post #1299 (isolation #94) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:53 am

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I guess if there's 2 scum I can get lynched today and then you can all lynch tchill/havo the next two days

But I really dont trust that happening at this point
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Post Post #1317 (isolation #95) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:58 pm

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In post 1300, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1296, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1281, Tchill13 wrote:did flubb EVER explain why he ever had me as a DO NOT LYNCH?
Motherfucker YES
then refresh our memory.
Stop babbling for babbling's sake and do your fucking homework

It was you who asked in the first place but good work showing us you're just making noise for its own sake
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Post Post #1334 (isolation #96) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:08 pm

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In post 1302, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1298, Flubbernugget wrote:For those following at home

Tchill freaked out during massclaim, tried to shade a conftown, than made a TRANSPARENT ass lie to cover himself that robb ripped into for about three pages

Havo slipped knowledge of there being two scum while having a power that makes perfect sense for a scum pair given the other pr claims

And I'm at L1 for lurking
PM and vorks play is objectively weird regarding pms n1 action.

What was the lie?

robb voted outside of tchill/flubb. if havo "slipped" on his knowledge what do you call what robb did voting outside the crossvote in a potential lylo scenario? seems to me most ppl think there's only 2 scum. i've went into detail and explained why theres only 2 scum.

do you disagree with my setup theory?

you're at L! for not bringing anything to the game. besides, you're supposed to be "towning it up" and you just admitted you're still lurking.
You lied saying your push on PM was to see who would follow you. And then you town read the person that followed you. Again, this was not a small thing that happened. It was discussed AT LENGTH.

I don't see what's slipping about voting outside a cross esp. if he hits another scum.

I disagree with your theory. Probability only works with repetition. We're playing one game and only one game so it's a crock of shit to talk about how likely a role is. Also robb pointed out you're cherry picking your numbers anyway so that argument can get double fucked.

And no, I'm not *still* lurking and it's self evident
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Post Post #1345 (isolation #97) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:20 pm

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Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1334, Flubbernugget wrote:You lied saying your push on PM was to see who would follow you. And then you town read the person that followed you. Again, this was not a small thing that happened. It was discussed AT LENGTH.

I don't see what's slipping about voting outside a cross esp. if he hits another scum.

I disagree with your theory. Probability only works with repetition. We're playing one game and only one game so it's a crock of shit to talk about how likely a role is. Also robb pointed out you're cherry picking your numbers anyway so that argument can get double fucked.

And no, I'm not *still* lurking and it's self evident
never seen havo call pm scum :]

i was just saying obv robb doesnt think that theres 3 scum or hed vote in the cross vote. ever give thought that itd also be ok if robb was actually scum?

so meta is a crock of shit too since we're only playing one game? which means skitter has no good reason to tr you.

not very evident. youve interacted with 2 posts. keep going though.
*sigh* I'll have to dig through posts later

I just said I can see town voting outside of a cross and you're doing the repetition thing again

Meta has no bearing on probablility...like what

I'm posting a LOT more than I was the previous day phases and I'd love to see you contort what an interaction looks like to you to say I've only done it twice
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Post Post #1349 (isolation #98) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:37 pm

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In post 1341, Robbnva wrote:Havo didn’t call pm scum but he absolutely backed off and was considering him as scum.

Why?

Cause tchill’s “push”.

You got somebody to slip yet you ignore it when you wanted somebody to slip.
Thank you for saving me the time
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Post Post #1351 (isolation #99) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:46 pm

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In post 1346, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1345, Flubbernugget wrote:*sigh* I'll have to dig through posts later

I just said I can see town voting outside of a cross and you're doing the repetition thing again

Meta has no bearing on probablility...like what

I'm posting a LOT more than I was the previous day phases and I'd love to see you contort what an interaction looks like to you to say I've only done it twice
but you can see scum voting outside of a cross also correct?

meta goes against the logic of "one game" so for you to rule setup spec out entirely on that premise but to accept meta as any excuse for anything is shit. like im trying to have a convo with you regarding setup that you just shut down entirely.

its whats in the posts not the post themselves. its not hard to post a LOT more than you have up until now. im not impressed.

i think its obvious PM and Luca are locktwon.

how would you react to a havo town flip?

how would you react to a tchill town flip?
I can see scum voting outside a cross too. What's your point?

And yes I do shut down dumb arguments when I see them. You can check my *gasp* meta on me doing it as town.

The only way I could really see probability being used to crack a setup is for EV ish stuff because that is something some mods use to think about balance.

Why do you really want to bog the game down on the philosophy of how to interpret probability anyway? To make more noise perhaps?

Also, I didnt rule out setup spec.

I'm not an active poster and I've never been one. Still readable, and always pushed when scum needs an easy out.

I don't know how I'd react to either of you flipping town and I'm not letting you get in my head to start entertaining the idea either.
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Post Post #1352 (isolation #100) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:47 pm

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In post 1347, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1308, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1299, Flubbernugget wrote:I guess if there's 2 scum I can get lynched today and then you can all lynch tchill/havo the next two days

But I really dont trust that happening at this point
why not? if you flip green one of me or havo is autolynched.

robb is already pushing both of us, as a team or as pocketing the other, he keeps changing it.

luca voted me and havo b4 voting you.

pm voted me.

skitter would rather me be lynched today.

your green flip is the best way to catch tchill/havo scum 4 good (or one of tchill/havo scum, because we could be pocketing one another but we could be scum together also - ToxicTunneler247)

you're not gonna flip green though, thats your issue with it.
also please respond to this.
My issue is that too many people on this site like to make hero plays so it really doesn't matter what logic you lay out cuz glory is going to overshadow it anyway
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Post Post #1364 (isolation #101) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:09 am

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In post 1354, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1349, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1341, Robbnva wrote:Havo didn’t call pm scum but he absolutely backed off and was considering him as scum.

Why?

Cause tchill’s “push”.

You got somebody to slip yet you ignore it when you wanted somebody to slip.
Thank you for saving me the time
id like you to answer your own questions

if your capable.
There was no question here and citations aren't the workings of town; theyre a chore
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Post Post #1365 (isolation #102) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:11 am

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In post 1357, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1351, Flubbernugget wrote:Also, I didnt rule out setup spec.
seems like you have.

ive pointed out why if someone has an issue with the prs and setup skitter would be the least likely.

i have no issue with the setup. i believe all the claims.
A two shot cop, friendly neighbor paired against a two man scum team w/ a motion detector sounds like a good setup to me
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Post Post #1366 (isolation #103) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:15 am

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In post 1362, Robbnva wrote:Flubber still hasn’t done anything
You still think this? :(
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Post Post #1368 (isolation #104) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:24 am

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Fair
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Post Post #1377 (isolation #105) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:56 am

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how is that relevant to this game we are playing now though
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #106) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:22 am

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But if it never happened before it could still be possible

Blah. That's why these number games are dumb
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Post Post #1380 (isolation #107) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:24 am

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I just don't see in what realm 4 pr's has anything to do with this.

Unless you're hiding something with your lack of claim the setup as is makes sense
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #108) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:04 am

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In post 1382, Luca Blight wrote:Has anyone ever encountered a Town JOAT similar to Skitter’s claim in a normal game? I can only remember Joat’s with three abilities, and the visitor ability is weird. Why would the mod not just make it a one shot cop?

It would also be a strange fake claim, but obviously the benefit would be that if Skitter were tracked to Flavor then it would give her an out. Something is making me feel wary/paranoid about this slot.
I'm pretty sure if skitter could confirm another townie it would put the game close to (if not completely in) auto
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Post Post #1415 (isolation #109) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:02 am

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Robb/havo is the only pair that can make sense fmpov I think
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Post Post #1418 (isolation #110) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:03 am

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@mod I think the deadline is still set for d3
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Post Post #1419 (isolation #111) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:03 am

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In post 1417, Havo wrote:
In post 1415, Flubbernugget wrote:Robb/havo is the only pair that can make sense fmpov I think
So are you willing to lynch Robb?
Probably

Are you?
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Post Post #1424 (isolation #112) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:06 am

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Lynch robb with me then
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Post Post #1441 (isolation #113) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:19 am

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In post 1437, Havo wrote:
In post 1436, Robbnva wrote:VOTE: havo
Scum confirmation here.

Voting in LyLo before everyone has checked in. Lol.
You have nothing to lose by crossing
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #114) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:48 am

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skitter30 wrote:I mean it's still kinda hard to believe that there are 4 town prs
You mean havo being MD?
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Post Post #1469 (isolation #115) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:02 am

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In post 1466, Robbnva wrote:What if it’s flubber/skitter?
Scumclaim
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Post Post #1471 (isolation #116) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:03 am

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Shoulda stayed bussing havo then pivoting to me tomorrow
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Post Post #1584 (isolation #117) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:40 am

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In post 1492, skitter30 wrote:Scum have to have some powerful prs, to make up for 9:2

It would kinda make sense for the md to be scum and for one of the vts to be lying

If both robb and flubb are scum they need to be prs in some way to make up for the balancing and then neither kill or act on the night havo was on each of them, which feels unlikely
But at the same time there's like no failed night actions or...anything
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Post Post #1585 (isolation #118) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:45 am

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In post 1521, skitter30 wrote:I still dont know what the fuck the point of loyal visitor is. I guess to interact with you somehow.
I think it functionally makes PM a cop

Which is SUPER fucking overpowered in this context though
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Post Post #1586 (isolation #119) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:47 am

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In post 1531, skitter30 wrote:Yep, brilliant plan if i'm scum here, i agree, clearing like a 1/3 of the potential lynch pool
Well you're close to a prefect game as scum so the dividends clearly paid off.

Tchill said something entertaining you as scum. I need to find it.
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Post Post #1587 (isolation #120) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:48 am

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In post 1537, Robbnva wrote:@flubber - what are your thoughts on havo v skitter.

Who do you think is scum out of the two?
Havo is for sure scum and needs to be lynched today.

Still 95% sure skitter is town
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Post Post #1588 (isolation #121) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:52 am

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In post 1585, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1521, skitter30 wrote:I still dont know what the fuck the point of loyal visitor is. I guess to interact with you somehow.
I think it functionally makes PM a cop

Which is SUPER fucking overpowered in this context though
No I got friendly neighbor and visitor backwards jfc
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Post Post #1589 (isolation #122) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:53 am

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Skitter, is your visit compulsive?
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Post Post #1592 (isolation #123) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:55 am

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In post 1287, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 875, skitter30 wrote:Also luca is conftown to me
If he says pm is conftown to him why would i not be believing that here ?

If luca's trying to pull some shitty gambit and we lose because of it then i'll blame him for the loss but otherwise i see no reason not to believe him rn
In post 920, skitter30 wrote:
In post 915, Flubbernugget wrote:Skitter, who was your second investigation?
I'm a joat, my second shot was a loyal visitor, which i used on fl last night.

I dont exactly have any useful information on the outcome of that tho
for skitter to fake an invest and crumb it on luca n1 then to have a friendly neighbor later conftown n2 luca is just incredible luck if skitter is scum. (luca and PM are conftown due to how luca's PM read changed from d2 to d3)

now that i think about it skitter should never be pushed as scum here. this is a situation where if skitter is scum she played well enough to deserve the win then got lucky enough to make it impossible for her to lose.

the fact that you'd even provide a scenario where skitter is scum is a scum claim in itself.
Hmmmmm
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Post Post #1593 (isolation #124) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:56 am

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In post 1591, Robbnva wrote:
In post 1585, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1521, skitter30 wrote:I still dont know what the fuck the point of loyal visitor is. I guess to interact with you somehow.
I think it functionally makes PM a cop

Which is SUPER fucking overpowered in this context though
how does it make pm a cop? He can only tell people he is town, he doesn't know if the people he is telling is town
Thought it was loyal friendly neighbor in skitter's post ifu
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Post Post #1606 (isolation #125) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:22 am

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In post 1596, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1589, Flubbernugget wrote:Skitter, is your visit compulsive?
Nope
Hmmmm

That visit is a chance to give havo a free kill on a pr.

Why did you decide to even use it?
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Post Post #1615 (isolation #126) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:28 am

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In post 1607, skitter30 wrote:I didnt exactly know there was an md at that point

What do you mean by 'a chance to give havo a free kill on a pr'?
If I was scum and detected motion I'd probabaly consider that a good nk
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Post Post #1616 (isolation #127) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:29 am

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In post 1607, skitter30 wrote:I didnt exactly know there was an md at that point

What do you mean by 'a chance to give havo a free kill on a pr'?
I know you didn't know there was an md but you had to have thought even before daystart "hmmm loyal visit is super weird why would I use this"?
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Post Post #1643 (isolation #128) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:53 pm

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Gg all thanks for hosting mod :)
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