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I dont like that both jingle and tw like this wagon
I dont like how quickly it's built

generally w/o flips mid d1 it's considered better practice to just play the game than to shade wagons but up 2 u

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oh i just realized that tw slyly switched from egix wagon too

hmm

"slyly" pushed my other scumread when I was pushing Egix long before you

can y'all talk abt me w/o loaded language for a minute?

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Unpopular wagon? We hit the mark! He MUST be scum!

...Am i doing this right?

no

people are raising counterwagon against X wagon + not arguing that he is more likely town than scum but either bailing out of his wagon or saying it's not a good lynch

that's when you know you prob hit scum

♪＼(*＾▽＾*)／＼(*＾▽＾*)／
next step is just determining the motivation of the counterwagon and whether that's also on scum which we can do laterrrr

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hmm basically I sincerely don't think people have given me a fair treatment this game so I'm more reactive to weighted language used @ me than I usually am

you've actually been relatively earnest with your reads otherwise (sans manga)

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skitter is probs town dw

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the concept of sheeping the literal worst on townreading the incumbent Don Corleone scummy holder is funnier in theory than it should be

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np nibz but he was my scumread first k?

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I'll share my bragging rights with you.. >_>

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me too
the back & forth w me has been wolfier than the balance of his posting

I'm just lookin for his buds nkw

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1536 is why I've stopped stressing abt Norway
I think he gets more self conscious as scum here too it akshly feels like he's irritated at us

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Skitter as scum is great with tone but historically struggles with like... posting "momentum" unless she's tunnelling and I think she's skittering with increasing intensity!

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ffffffff how long is a piece of string

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I get stressed out more as town than scum but it isn't really an exclusive thing. More likely to get stressed late game. Currently tryna reclaim mafia as a fun hobby which I actually enjoy rather than chase that sexy win% so I'm a lot less likely to stress across the board atm

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I'm not trying to be hard to read. Plan of attack this game is roughly:
generate spicy content > analyse content for the scums > be readable

I literally don't need to be townread unless I'm here for lategame so putting energy into the first two is more funner

I get stressed out more as town than scum but it isn't really an exclusive thing. More likely to get stressed late game. Currently tryna reclaim mafia as a fun hobby which I actually enjoy rather than chase that sexy win% so I'm a lot less likely to stress across the board atm

Okay this is actually helpful I think ty

how so~~~

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what's got you nulltown on nips btw? I can't get him out of dead null

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It’s helpful bc I’m trying to decide if you riffing with me is something that you’d do as scum or not

yes

I’m nulltown on nips for the fact that I townleaned him early and he hasn’t really done much to make me wanna downshift him to straight null

can you show me what made you townlean him back then?

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hmm I'm not really sure specifically what you're looking for there so it's kinda hard to comment on my capacity for feeling that way if I were the scums

yes please, I'm a bit preoccupied irl

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@nibs I am not trusting you to be correct on anything but I feel faintly warm & fuzzy that we're getting similar feels

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you like that as much as you like DrDolittle and teacher?

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how engaged w this game do you feel atm

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your reads are outdated in a way that makes me anxious townreading you, I'd say Nor is your only progressive read tbh

kinda checks out w disengagement though so I'm kind of left like... passively uncomfortable but I'd rather murderify teacher egix and wicked

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2-3 of mena/nips/teacher is probs my worst case scenario solve but it's a whole thing

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it's ok Egix is still prolly scum o: just speakin my mind

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you've had one alt which i wasn't totally sure on

your english is really strong, mistakes like that are easy to make

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was it Rainn?

yeah the lack of "i"-ending username threw me and i think the avi was higher resolution than e.g. fumuki/yuurei

keen to meet this mysterious secret you~!

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by the way can i join speakeasy with an alt or...?

NO but you can transfer your main

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i'm pretty sure that my first avis had horribles one bc i tried to make them smaller in paint and it messed them up greatly, but was yuurei's one bad...?

it wasn't bad at all!! they were both cute, they were both just a little lossy i think?
yuurei

it's gone now :<

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wait, is this one bad in resolution too? can you get a good look in the avi/character?

this one & rainn are high res and lovely

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it's ok Egix is still prolly scum o: just speakin my mind

No

lol

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AP is exactly AP

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i wanna roll scum with you again nibs

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i'm enjoying casualness and reclaiming playing for fun, so far - can strongly recommend.

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omg pllsssss <3

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i don't think it matters too much bc it's still in signups but probs best not to discuss team strategy too much amongst teams :shrug:

can't see myself playing a large anytime soon though

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mind = blown

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VOTE: bungle chooo chooooo

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c'mon skitter come with me it'll be fun

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wicked, nibs, come with us!

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this wagon in my mind is like

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fixeded

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the thai pronunciation for 5 is H̄̂ā so they use 5555 as shorthand for laughing it's great

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I think my whiplash trajectory on bungle might have finally broken skitter D: I'm sorry

PAGETOP YES

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my main issue w your push on me/bungle was a tp/groupscum read which I consider blatantly scumsiding by pushing if you think you're right; I separately to that realised you're probs town and you aren't intending to scumside - I think your reasons for wagonojg Bungle are good (projecting my ow reasons slightly as well)

Don't think I've grown cold on him exactly, just been more interested in others slots - Egix is adequately tickled now where if he goes back into lurkmode it's gna be real obvious - wagoning nips is stupid - teacher will generate content on his own with or without pressure - this is a good place to push

also I know your tp/maf read is wrong which means for me it's entirely +ev to just ignore that town!you has that read and wagon Bungle anyway!

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btw if bungle is scum he's taken his vote off a lulsy legacy wagon

VOTE: TW

Im on a comp now for anyone who wants to chat while I try to actually make some headway with the game.

and slam dunked it into the toilet

I'm feeling this for RN.
VOTE: FlippyNips

which means the PoE is probably fairly good

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btw if bungle is scum

if teacher is scum** sry

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I had a bunch more that I wanted to say tonight, but didn't get the chance with my computer updating.

Pre-emptive TL-DR for tomorrow is that I don't like the Egix bandwagon. I think the case is pretty weak, not a huge fan of Nibbui/Norwegian's votes in particular and I even felt like some of Egix's responses today felt slightly townish. I feel like people took some very minor things and are acting like it's suddenly super compelling evidence.

Starting to feel good about Almost50 too.

get over onto this bungle wagon then

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yeahhhh wicked is scummy

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i'm trying to boss people who i think might have w/w equity with bungle into voting bungle
you're town so i'm happy to leave you alone on your separate glorious adventure

but if you'd like to become skitter30 & my third adventuring pal, we'd welcome you to the party

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you're also welcome to the party!!

obv a50 is travelling w us as well but he's kinda like an npc whose movies we don't know yet :U

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basically yeah, like

jaws

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duuuu-DUNUN-DUNUN

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have i really just got this glorious opportunity to grab the pg. 69 pagetop?
cjv i bet you're jealous rn

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i endorse the egix wagon wholeheartedly
he's only left out of my jaws picture bc i didn't want his fur to get wet

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omfg i love that

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hoi

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release date???

yesterday : ]

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the thai pronunciation for 5 is H̄̂ā so they use 5555 as shorthand for laughing it's great

the chinese pronunication for 5 is wu so they use 5555 as shorthand for crying it's great

The ducky pronunciation for 5 is quack. OK.. that's probably not true. Ducks only have 4 digits per foot

i was gna say yeah, we avoid counting to 5, if we do it's "ugh where did i put my other foot"

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I think Emps rn is acting vig-worthy btw

nips is virtually unreadable d1, he's firmly not worth viggin. vig just needs to work thru the bottom of the POE as per usual
nips is definitely coppable

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Thing is, I actually don't have all that much meta with tw (he was a lategame sub in Op748 and there's also EIACR2 which I guess kiiiiinda counts?) but I know he knows who I am so I would have expected him to talk things out with me before starting a push on me.

why do u expect this lmao

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stop scumposting.

yea

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1) i'm not auro.
2) i don't like playing by meta atm.

i don't know if this is your town meta
i don't give a shit if this is your town meta
i can't be bothered putting in the time to work out what your meta is
you look like scum this game
bye scum

why should i have some weird onus to go and refresh myself on your playstyle and engage you on that when you aren't doing anything that makes me think you might be town?

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i caught them b4 u nibs ):

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ok..fine
i guess you being all cute this game kinda inspired me to crack out ms paint again so we'll call it even

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HI NORTHSIDEGAL!!!!!!! <3

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anyways when i skimmed back then i came out thinking that norwegian and egix were pretty solidly town, and scumleaning the worst

bye nsg >:c

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@nsg i don't think i've seen egix take any strong stances here except that i'm scum after i heavily prompted the exchange. :/

I just realized something.

Ducky, how closely do you read games you mod/comod?

mmm it's not consistent.

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I followed that game moderately closely

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I will say that there has to be a scum in the active posters, a point most people are overlooking. I have only been in one other game that reached any kind of this length on D1, and scum were quite active. It makes rereads really challenging

sorry if i'm talking more than i need to
do you mean starcraft?--there's an interesting parable there

nothing in particular i want from you; just whatever's making you fire up. the more interested you are the better

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uncertain

at a meta level his alignment makes no sense til later in the game IME

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Hot take: duck should be townreading me.

why's that?

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Wicked is pretty obvtown by fogey standards.

Would you be able to expand on this? I've spent the last ~1.5 hours looking through his ISO and I still can't get a good read on him.

wait you spent an hour and a half looking through his ISO and... had no original thoughts at all worth sharing with the class? you keeping a note pt or something? (if so nice work but you still need to post itt!)

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I also thought NSG replaced into this game

I endorse this pithy remark and/or service.

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quote

you can hit pm in old threads and cut out the quotes to save a bit of time (and keep your name in there without messin w bbcode)

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I'll b around for ages reading and (likely silently) judging to see whether you produce some more AI content teacher - I don't have an issue w your activity level - I have an issue w the fact it feels like you're more interested in producing quirky-sounding reads than tryna find the scums & convince us on them - your hot takes have felt off-beat and hard to follow (e.g. iirc wicked town, hunt in the active posters--ok why?) rather than nuanced and original with believable trajectory

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the questioning thing is like.. pro town as well but I'm sure you appreciate it's hard to tell if it's also *town*

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duck are you perhaps a genius and i never noticed it???

absolutely not!! my brain is the size of an apricot

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allowing that wicked's rvs vote may be AI (we disagree there; I think people regularly spew their alignments in rvs without intending to and unfortunately don't think wicked did)

he voted on an established wagon at maybe ~2-3 votes. he nakedvoted which either comes from awkward scum or town who don't give a toss about how they're viewed

he didn't really present any read/stance until like a few dozen pages later - this reads as awkward to me and enforces my read on it being an awkward vote. so I don't personally really see how you come out townreading that vote.

if your comment re. active posters was a precautionary gamestate read that's fine; that doesn't really help me sorting you tho because like maybe this is my failing but I don't really have a strong op. on that atm

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Hey Norway, how on gods green earth did you think I was ducky?

just musing about this I think the misnaming might have been town indicative as well; I know it's a pretty odd mistake to make but it feels like he's been digesting game info and how he ~feels~ but not necessarily facts. I think scum tend to do this backwards and have a tendency to be better at regurgitating facts but less consistent with how they feel/felt abt stuff

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I think you read easy via intent and I think you intend to solve this game so I'm townbinning you.

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@teacher fair. sorry if me jumping on stuff is ruining your method. let me know if you'd rather silent judgement, my intention was to further the conversation not overfocus on reads you don't feel as strongly about. that's my bad.

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you just have to believe in nibbui~!
reading him is like a spiritual journey
it might not make sense but it's very rewarding

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I'm not using a notes app this game so I'm probs due a reread >:c blegh

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do u like her reasoning for the Egix townread? :< it makes me very nervous

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was that the game where someone pretended to be nsg in a game nsg was modding

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Scum are pushing the Norwegian wagon but like... ok

You have strong associations with Norway. I noted it last page and again now (i.e., on p.15). Why do you think he's town, other than confusing the two of us.

I kinda just have townread him for a long time and haven't seen a reason to stop. I think he's made some optically poor posts v early which might be made by more experienced scum but the mindset behind them checked out to town the more I thought about it later - I don't really feel like towncasing him tbqh but he's just been holistically engaging + providing believable original thought + consistent in a way that makes me believe it's a trajectory

"it's a town ISO" would be my lazy explanation ig

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Scum are pushing the Norwegian wagon but like... ok

You have strong associations with Norway. I noted it last page and again now (i.e., on p.15). Why do you think he's town, other than confusing the two of us.

and follow up - in 384 you listed the wagon, and asked me if I noted who was the scum. Who did you think it was?

was fishing, sorry - I didn't have a strong feeling and didn't think the wagon was particularly scum motivated

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bro you're in France the decision is already made

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Nibbui suspected Egix SO MUCH that, because I disagreed with the wagon, now I am scum and he is town. And DDL suspected Egix SO MUCH that I am now scum for disagreeing with it (but oh now he’s not so sure anymore).

All because I had him as null 30 pages ago? And even though I am not the only one who disagreed with the wagon?

And Nibbui don’t pretend like you have an understanding of my scum tells. Everything I’m being accused of in this game I have been accused of in previous town games. You’ve never played with me and if you’re town, you’re really lousy at reading me.

I had limited time to post last night. The priority was expressing my disapproval of the Egix wagon because he is the one who got to L-2 and for very weak reasons. What the hell did I need to say about teacher and Bingle? Give me a friggin break. This whole game people have been assigning a scum motive to every single thing I do because I’m not playing the way that they think I am supposed to play. Like I’m just an awful scum player who can’t help oozing scum tells with my every post.

I once played in a game where mastin-Town was so certain I was scum that she said “there is no universe” where I was town and she tore apart my every post. Well I was Town in that game and I’m Town in this one too. It feels like half my posts are being misconstrued, nobody is reading a damn thing I say, and voting first/asking questions later (or not asking any questions at all). Nibbui isn’t making an effort to sort me, he has jumped to this wrong conclusion and hasn’t made any effort to question me and he’s ready to lynch me.

~

I have put more effort into this game than it deserves. I’m stressing about it more than I should and need to step away.

Mod: I am V/LA for today and tomorrow.

Scum team feels like TW/Nibbui + maybe Flippy or teacher

Unvote. Vote: Nibbui

Every accusation you’ve made towards me has been awful awful awful

also mobile I'm just v quick

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bro you're in France the decision is already made

??

that was @menaphos sorry. his wine vs. sleep decision is already made via his being in France. :p

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I dont think wicked's last post/vote were made in good faith

why not?

The whole thing reads like he's angry at being wagoned by ninbui so he got annoyed at him and then decided to vote him out of spite sort of

I like to think my earnest engagement kind of locked him out of voting me there without guilty conscience - I think scum!wicked has to vote nibbui there but I'm not sure how town!wicked acts

pedit: seeya later

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thats twice Ive seen menaphos instead of menalque -- am I missing a story?

not really, I'm a runescape nerd and menalque is hard to say out loud so I muddle em up sometimes

pedit: oh it is~? hehe~

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wicked in that post is either "frustated town" or "scum trying to fake it bc doesn't know how else to react" and i'm /keenly waiting him get back to the game to see more

^ this exactly

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can I just say that regardless of what alignment anyone flips I really enjoy playing w/ the 3 of you

I enjoy you lots too Mr. Menaphos.

interesting you use the "regardless of what alignment" qualifier--feeling guilty?

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is nsg known for being particularly good as scum as well as town or just as town?

v v v good at town
not bad at scum, for sure: but if you know her towngame well, the two are pretty far apart

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is nsg known for being particularly good as scum as well as town or just as town?

IIRC, she is known for town more so than scum, but is more than capable as both. I think the absence is RL and NAI.

correct but I also don't like her stance/reasoning on Egix - if she's feelin that it should be extremely easy to back up with ingame quotes/meta - so I don't want to let her slide!!

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if in doubt run w nsg's read, she never misreads me.... when I'm scum

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jeez ducky you gotta keep up

I'm TRYING to look UNALIGNED gosh mena

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told u guys a50 wasn't part of the party

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i'm trying to come up with a hydra name for you guys. i haven't read the immoralist but i can see why this character speaks to you mena.

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also this pl is seriously awesome

qft

open queue squad back in actionnnnnnn

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hmm teacher's tone is moving in a way i v much don't associate with his scumgame but i don't think his content quality has neared his ceiling yet and i think the read on nor is really surface and misguided (some things he says ""sound scummy"" but i get pure intent the more i think about him).
wicked/me/nor as a solve is like...pretty horrifically misguided but i don't know if it looks good enough to be a scum fakesolve

help i might be townreading teacher possibly

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i think that's a pretty classic misread and don't understand how it's scummy, nibbui.

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hot take: nsg needs to be introduced to the scumpool, but should absolutely not be touched today.

{bingle, egix, wicked} are the best wagons

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actually you both kinda dragged the 1v1 out

i felt similarly when i was engaging him like we weren't really getting anywhere particularly valuable but i actually feel like he believes what he's saying :U

don't think he's lying about misreading your post there.

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hard to say; i feel like i made a mistake by engaging him on needless stuff too fwiw

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i don't think solving the game in a different way to us is necessarily scummy tho, sorry if that sounds snarky, but the slow-paced solve isn't feeling particularly scummy to me. he's not correct, like at all, and i haven't really seen a case from him i buy. but i don't feel like he's making shit up

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i def don't think so and i've no idea about what you mean from "tone" tw.

*what* tone?

his posts are mostly either questions or logical arguing as far as i can see

there's a kind of audacity to his recent posting which i kinda vibe with
he doesn't feel the need to be townread by us and doesn't feel that he's lynchable
idk it's hard to explain, it doesn't feel like a guilty conscience

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how good are you on reading teacher usually

only lurking his games + marathons

bc i remember you having no experience and i don't get how you can talk about his scum read if you've no experience?

exclusively lurking his games
i'm not hard meta'ing him here

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let's reevaluate when we've both had some thinking time.

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oooo me me me me

1) lynch scummy people

check

2) meme scummy people

always

3) don't be a scumfuck yourself

check

4) be a justice crusader in this foreign wasteland

started like 8 glorious crusades in this very thread

5) rip scum apart with your holy sword posts

i shall doubly whet my blade in your honour captain nibs

6) Accept me giving you a heroic name.

deal

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a noble cause. i shall prove my worth. (if i'm in the mood)

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you just have this like naturally justice-ey energy you know?

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I shall say a prayer to my foreign gods, northsidegal and radiantcowbells

a reserve prayer is being held for skitter30, goddess of lylo. just in case it's needed.

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sidebar: ducky, skitt and I still need that hydra name for us

god I'm hopeless at names but I'll keep thinking
what do you guys even have in common?

Nib/teacher on this page was SILLY

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the proper use of contractions

Is always delivering a baby! Yes??

asdfghjkl;'

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I would rather read NSG by what she posts than to try angleshoot-y by her activity in such a short time

Even as town I think nowadays NSG has more of ~peaks~ of activity instead of a constant flow of posting.

A50, are you trying to distract from the teacher wagon (i don't remember you talking much about the convo unless for puns) or are you not used to NSG's changed meta?

yes all of this

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Bungle I need that explanation of why I shld be townreading you my friend you've kinda ducked the subject and you look like scum

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Bungle I need that explanation of why I shld be townreading you my friend you've kinda ducked the subject and you look like scum

My early game here was EXACTLY my early game in the game I linked. You were reading that game. Why are you not?

Should I townread an imitation? Should I not take context into account? Do you think this is outside your scumrange?

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arrrr

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Should I townread an imitation? Should I not take context into account? Do you think this is outside your scumrange?

I don't think my scumrange and townrange are different, with the caveat that I won't outright break the game for the opposite faction.

This isn't an imitation, and the contexts are pretty much the same. The parallels are very obvious, and if you think I'm doing this to fool specifically you, you're kidding yourself.

in that case to be candid i'm not seeing what you think i should be seeing
sorry

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i wish i was scum w teacher
i do think i might've been overthinking my read on him yday

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i'm town~!

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enjoy the v/la skitter

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not reading for SK:
skitter is town
so if bungle is town yeah

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im not particularly interested in lynching sk-potential today at all.

that's what i mean; i'm not reading for a SK until we have red flips.

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Now let me ask you one thing: You said the optimal play for the SK here is to pick BP. The question I am asking now though is what would YOU pick as SK?

BP. It's not even a choice.

The odds of a cop are = the odds of a vig. The odds of a scumkill being present are 100%. If an SK is investigated by a cop, they can still try to argue they will townside and shoot for a win that way. There is no chance for an SK who is killed to win. If an SK is false cleared by a cop, the scum team inevitably shoots them.

this post is intensely ding ding

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this post is intensely ding ding

Why?

That's an intensely NAI post from me. It's mechanics, which I don't lie about optimization of as a rule (Which I'm like 90% sure you know). It's scum choices, which I usually avoid talking about period. And it's in the past.

objectively correct, not alignment indicative
just saying i sincerely agree mechanically

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OH ding ding is like "ding ding! we got a winner"; not pingy!!

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/in

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i feel weirdly zen abt this game as well fwiw
reasonable chance i'll be lynched; it's kinda w/e
our poe is quite good and i'm having like adequate amounts of fun

we'll win or lose by the awesomeness of the lategame town


nibs is v v town but yeah his exchange with you was

SILLY

that's right, i used the s word

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I should have a few hours here and there throughout the day to devote to this game.

Did you get trapped in Egix's amazing ISO for 1.5 hours too?

Me trying to join Nibbui's justice crusader:

Spoiler:

^^^^ both of these made me lol

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don't have a firm one rn
nibs/skitter/nor are clearly town
drdolittle/menalque are probably town
egix is explicitly scummy but i think can be solved via sorting nsg
nsg is scummy but sortable
wicked/you/a50/teacher/nips are the wildcards

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is teacher scum for all these pagetops UGH

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actually successfully pocketing skitter is best done as a medium/long con
you basically have to spend d1 with your fingers crossed reeeeeeeeaaaaaally tight

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as your designated policy scumread i'd like to help you get excited for this game~ \o/
i think ddl is kinda towny
i'm starting to get worried about that read

the things he's posting are towny but it's not like, how i expect to read ddl
he's always quiet and withdrawn and i'm starting to get worried he's posting the things he's posting because he wants to look like town

either that or it's an intuitive thought process and he's just more interested than usual

i'm not really in the mood to check rn

what do you think?

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i think skitter has kinda ~broke singleball scumrange

pedit; o hi

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i mean when she came out and cased me i started to feel that i really strongly believed she believed what she was saying - i think she got bored of talking to me abt the same time i realised the dialogue was quite town indicative for her

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"disingenuous" is probs not entirely unfair but it's a heavily weighted choice of words
i definitely allowed my paranoia to run rampant => was aware that even if skitter was scum, she probably wasn't conspiring to the extent i was accusing her of

but i do think calling her out on falsifying her reads was like, extremely valuable so
:shrug:

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sorry, I think 2319 is basically my stance on that - I don't really resent myself for pushing her slightly harder than it made sense to - yes indeed her reaction was town indicative

what do you think scum!duck is trying to do here? I'm missing something between your observation and your conclusion

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hats!!! <3

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Sure, I'd appreciate that a lot more.

I also might not be expressing myself as clearly as I could. Everything I've pushed skitter on has been a genuine consideration I've had in the heat of the moment - the difference between that and a more like, new-tw push, is that I didn't slow down to evaluate the probability or her being scum at an holistic level. I'm probably playing somewhat closer to my mid 2018 playstyle effort/reaction wise.

So I can see why you find it disingenuous: it is exaggerated. But it's an earnest push, and I've dropped it entirely because that's when I've changed my read.

I see why you're confused but have no idea why you come out thinking I'm scum.

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Could you link the Egix game you're hot metaing off? I wouldn't mind having a read if I feel like efforting something.

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This might sound a bit silly but I think I embraced my silliness on the 8th of November 2015.

When I'm engaging skitter in mb I kind of ask myself what she's posting in the scum pt, hypothetically. Regardless of her partners she's a logical scum player. I can't picture how she would be diarying through our conversation and I think the pacing indicates her frustrations were very earnest. Don't think scum!skitter has a tendency to dive into these conversations without evaluating what she gets out of it.

+ singleball I have a ~tell~ on skitter but it's spiritual and v hard to communicate. it also doesn't really work for multiball.

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fair

If I was doing effort atm I'd try and determine mindset tells for Egix because I think this game has him in a certain state, not sure why I'm talking about this, I'm not going to do it anyway.

re. interactions/low presence I agree I'm not outside of my scumrange but again don't see how my contributions equal me being net more likely scum than town.

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I'm mulling over the "defending from skitter's attack" thing -- I know it's not valid and I have a suspicion skitter/I are aware that I could manufacture a more valuable read on her than this -- but I'm also not sure if I'd expect you to think that

not a disrespect thing; very specific past game experience

I'm diving down the self meta hole smh maybe I am scum irl.

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actually I think wagonpanic survivalism is probably an outdated scumtell on me. after lylo in undertale I try and keep it in check more, but anyway. I can see how you've reached a meta scumlean. I'll let you you do more exciting things now :p

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honestly, at the moment I'm not sure I'd bother engaging with skitter d1 if I was scum here. I think we have sufficient experience that I could delay the inevitable real-time interactions until other slots had done scummier stuff. being lolwagoned early d1 is less alarming for me now than it used to be so... probably nothing? but I haven't done much more than nothing, so don't think I should be excluded from it.

I'm not sure it's really material whether slots should start high or low on a readlist. I think you've started null and shifted from there which is how I do it as well. I wanted to try and see what struck you as scummy from me; I don't think the lack of towntelling is particularly pertinent given some of the other slots in this game.

I *believe* what you're saying which is nulling out what originally made me concerned about you. I'm neutral about whether you're right or wrong on Egix, if you ever feel strongly at a meta level I'll likely sheep you.

I don't think you're like. glowing town but you're no longer someone I'm actively concerned about. I also think you're on trajectory to towntelling which at a meta level is town indicative for you. I'm getting dizzy.

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there's something about "i could manufacture a more valuable read on her than this" that bothers me. maybe this is kind of a misguided "slip-seeking" newbie way of thinking, but it feels wrong to me. are you saying that you could manufacture a read on skitter that would be more realistic than your (presumably) actual real read, or what exactly are you saying?

I could like.. do something that advances my slot in a more favourable way than I have.

options include
1) deciding on a read/trajectory before I engaged with skitter which preferably actually signals that I'm trying to sort her
2) just leave it alone until later

but this is pushing into "why would I look so scummy as scum?" territory which is kinda boring; I don't think my interactions with skitter are particularly telling but I can see why they may have pinged you.

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I suppose "hey skitter let's sort each other d2 *does noisy things at other slots*" is a trick I've now successfully used so maybe I'd need something more profound to get around rolling against skitter?

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I suppose I don't really know what I'd do. But I will help my self esteem if I say I hope it would be more impressive.

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she hasn't sorted him yet I believe Nor :c

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unfortunately he's probably a better late sort; better to have a baseline for the slots he's talking about than trying to develop a quick baseline for him.

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Norwegian is absolutely transparently town.

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I like 1477 as well actually.

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DDL is probably fairly easy to have an opinion on, of those left in your null list. I was just wondering why I like Menalque as well.

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Ah, pacing

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w h o l o v e s m u l t i b a l l ? ! ? !

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so kinda shitty to ask but we've established I'm scum irl and yolo
you wanted to replace into a50's slot?

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pretty annoying honestly that there's a 50/50 chance of only being two groupscum

I have a pretty strong gamestate read but it's shitty to out and I'll only do it if nobody will respond

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ah, ok
he's close to rand yeah

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of course, conclusions > reasoning here anyway
I think we're in a high T count setup and I think we have a SK

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I'll still be around for a bit; gotta water my pet rock

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i think she's covered that it's largely hot meta, nor
i see another reason to like nibs off the last like, two pages

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@volpe I'm off the table sorry. A50 is off the table. teacher or Bungle and I'd strongly encourage the later.

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VOTE: Bingle L-1
i thought my vote was here a long time ago

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isn't that how pisskop always reads?

pedit: i kinda think you're towny here, but i wouldn't call myself capable at it

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same here. :c I just already knew one of the scums.
fyi if you'd gone for volpe I would very likely have joined you

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when we release a special edition of this game we should include a hidden alternate ending of us finding each other and defeating evil.

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volpe/mena/chem you guys around for a shoot on tuesday for the alternate ending

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nah I just need you to say "arrgghh nooo I thought I'd get away with it!" while falling

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thanks Nor now I need my brain cleaned.

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I don't 100% get the ref but I appreciate what you guys are getting at. Nor wins open 768 post-game banter

pedit:

nah I just need you to say "arrgghh nooo I thought I'd get away with it!" while falling

Can we do a scooby doo unmasking scene?

mena close second place
we definitely can

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I'm still your biggest fan wick.

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HAHAHAHA that would have been golden! We'll include a bloopers real in the alternate ending. Which will be mostly my actual posts. We could call it the Woopers reel.

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If that isn't the bungle/wick/wooper hydra idk what is

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that's why I just post shit all the time :c

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I'm happy losing to a mafia pt that long :U

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Let's be scum together next time. It's nigh impossible to shut me up.