Open 81 - The New C9 - Game Over


Locked
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:23 pm

Post by armlx »

Yay, we have a smart vigilante playing. Keep up the good work.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:43 pm

Post by armlx »

I seriously hope it wasnt the vig you killed the doctor, If so, that vig needs to be kneecapped. And if you dont know what kneecapping is, it's when you take a lead pipe to someone's kneecaps.
Actually, who the vig killed is irrelevant, as more town directed kills is always good and it hitting a power role would simply be bad luck, though I'm pretty sure it was K7 for 2 reasons.

1) K7 fits the profile of someone who would be N0 killed. Lots of filler posts and what not.

2) Kill MO on dcorbe is typical SK kill MO.

Possible Cavebear was the kill as bludgeoning can be SK, but point 1 would say otherwise.

Again, as I said, this is pretty irrel.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:51 pm

Post by armlx »

Maybe we can figure it out when more people start posting.
Bad post. Basically amounts to digging for who the vig is.

Vote Iron Man
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #13 (isolation #3) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:25 pm

Post by armlx »

Blaming the vig for bad luck?
I actually dismissed that as him not knowing the logic behind N0 vigging.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #15 (isolation #4) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:01 pm

Post by armlx »

iron man is obviously town. obviously.
Why?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #28 (isolation #5) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:22 am

Post by armlx »

roflcopter wrote:
armlx wrote:
iron man is obviously town. obviously.
Why?
this is scummy. i'll tell you why when you're older.
:roll:

You realize that with no reason stating X is town on page 1 with no logic is actually an EXTREMELY anti-town move as there are 3 possible scenarios regarding it.

A) You are a cop claiming on page one. I currently doubt anyone would be dumb enough to do this.

B) You are scum trying to set up an "I told you so" or protect a scum partner with no reasoning. For this exact reason what you did gains you know town points under any circumstances.

C) You are a townie, and you have just looked like Group B.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #48 (isolation #6) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:38 am

Post by armlx »

What logic is that you are implying?
The short explanation:

1) On N0, if a game is balanced, killing off a random person should be even benefit on both sides. The vig doesn't kill themselves, so the pool is slanted towards the town's favor as there are (balanced number - 1 ) townies vs (balanced number) scum.

2) Vigilante kills after N0 are generally the same as more lynches. Which is good.
its a little thing called ROLEFISHING. and its what you proceeded to DO when you asked me that question.
Asking for reasonings behind an absolute statement is role fishing? Listen, its obvious you aren't a cop, no cop would be dumb enough to just out themselves in post 2. So, therefore, your statement was either based on A) a meta-read or tell of Ironman's I was unaware of or B) total bull shit. If the former I would be interested in listening, if its the latter I would be interested in lynching you. Its pretty evidently the latter.

Unvote, Vote roflcopter


Iron Man's self fulfilling prophecy point is valid. rofl's question was very close to a 100% pro-town question, but just off enough it was not.

The correct way to phrase it would be this, which I actually want answers to.

Which, if any, of armlx, strife, and roflcopter do you think are scummy? If you think more than one is, which one do you think is more scummy?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #51 (isolation #7) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:01 am

Post by armlx »

That's exactly what I mean. I haven't seen anything scummy yet and you and rofl pushing his lynch haven't shown anything that gives cause for his lynch at this time.
Where has IAUN pushed the strife lynch. He merely said he was scummier then me. This is the exact issue with rofl's question, it commits people to positions they aren't really pushing.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #53 (isolation #8) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:37 am

Post by armlx »

This is the part where I propose the masons out themselves. Discuss.
No.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #56 (isolation #9) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:46 am

Post by armlx »

armlx wrote:
This is the part where I propose the masons out themselves. Discuss.
No.
I should probably elaborate on this. Why would we want potential masons to claim now, especially with no doc. All that would happen is the mafia/sk would have the best kills possible if they want to kill confirmed townies, and eliminated suspects if they want to try to kill power roles.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #61 (isolation #10) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:43 am

Post by armlx »

Assuming there isn't is def the right play.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #69 (isolation #11) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:01 am

Post by armlx »

JUnvote


Rofl, there was no reason to out Iron Man. For future reference, just mason claim should be enough for D1.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #72 (isolation #12) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:05 am

Post by armlx »

armlx, it was stupidly, blatantly obvious who my mason partner was if i just claimed mason, thanks to you rolefishing for just that information.
Sigh, you accuse me of role fishing that info out when A) a large number of players pushed your wagon to claim and B) you volunteered the bread crumb.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #74 (isolation #13) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:10 am

Post by armlx »

The fake mason claim is a very crackpot theory. There is not reason to disbelieve the mason claims at this point in time, and likely for a VERY long time.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #76 (isolation #14) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:12 am

Post by armlx »

I will unvote you once I have a good reason to do so. Right now I do not.
Claimed masons is a good reason.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #78 (isolation #15) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:21 am

Post by armlx »

Vamparific wrote:i find armlx scummier for trying to take control of the game
vote:armlx
This post is notable.
FOS Vamparific
for what amounts to an vote for being active and participating, as well as latching onto rofl's "plan".
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #89 (isolation #16) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:36 pm

Post by armlx »

Vamparific wrote:argh i dont want to be on rofl's side
unvote
Why is that relevant?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #105 (isolation #17) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:36 am

Post by armlx »

You can't tell me masons outing themselves really hurts the town.
It does. Anything that gives the mafia more information in who to target at night is going to hurt the town, especially if the "pay off" for the town is getting 2 confirmed innocents who won't likely last long.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #112 (isolation #18) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:51 am

Post by armlx »

Korts wrote:
Vote: forbiddanlight


You're not willing to start a bandwagon, but will be jumping on it if it has momentum? Preemptively justifying any opportunism? Just die.
I concur with everything this post has to say except (partially) the last sentence.

Vote forbiddanlight
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #114 (isolation #19) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:56 am

Post by armlx »

forb's post made me less inclined to lynch strangercoug,
Why? It affects me very little, as thats exactly the logic one scum would use in determining when to bus another.

This question only really pertains to the future, after we determine if forbiddanlight is scum or not.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #116 (isolation #20) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:11 am

Post by armlx »

Rofl, you just aren't going to stop OMGUSing me for starting the wagon that lead to your claim, are you?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #121 (isolation #21) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:53 am

Post by armlx »

armlx, you just aren't going to admit that making legitimate points against you like rolefishing and poisoning the well make this obviously not omgus, are you?
I don't think a single person here agrees with you on the role fishing part, as evidenced by the fact you were wagoned to claim after your posts about it.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #123 (isolation #22) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:03 am

Post by armlx »

nice job completely ignoring the poisoning the well thing though. trying to just push it under the rug?
No one has commented on that yet. I think I made a valid point as to why fl's action don't clear SC if fl is scum. You don't. Thats all there is for now.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #134 (isolation #23) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:26 am

Post by armlx »

he claimed because Lowell asked the masons to claim and he happened to be one.
In that case, he is just dumb for listening to Lowell.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #137 (isolation #24) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:36 am

Post by armlx »

It invalidates the connection, but not the point that he is seeing things that aren't there.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #141 (isolation #25) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:50 am

Post by armlx »

EBWOP: armlx, what connection are you referring to?
The relation between his claim and his being wrong.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #143 (isolation #26) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:27 am

Post by armlx »

Claim doesn't really help. Vote stands for now.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #149 (isolation #27) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:42 am

Post by armlx »

Masons are nothing more than glorified townies that can talk at night. Their vote is no more powerful than anyone else's. Now that the masons are outed (if they truly are masons) the odds are better for the town to lynch scum. So yes it does technically benefit the town to have them come out. We won't spend our time trying to lynch them. And it provides some cover for the other townies.
It benefits the town just as much as if rofl had A) waited till closer to lynch and B) not revealed his partner, and benefits the mafia less.
Also, I don't think I need to justify my intuition, but whatever.
But you do. Intuition is not valid reasoning.
It's pretty absurd that we've already had three claims at this point (albiet one of them involuntary). If everybody could stop doing that now, that'd be lovely.
Agree. No claims until L-2 people.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #151 (isolation #28) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:00 pm

Post by armlx »

Okay, good point. Guess I just kinda get used to going by my gut and I forget that not everyone thinks like that.
Yup. Just using intuition means

A) you saw something you thought was scummy and don't actively remember it. Upon reread you can probably find it and make a case.

B) You are working off bias. This is bad.

C) You don't have a reason and are trying to make one up. Also bad.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #162 (isolation #29) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:30 pm

Post by armlx »

forb + Iron Man, half does not matter. You should not claim until you are (Number of players in the game)/8 votes away from a lynch, also formated as (number of players required for lynch)/4 votes away from a lynch, rounded to the nearest whole number.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #164 (isolation #30) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:59 pm

Post by armlx »

Actually, 2 fixes:

Automatically round down fractions, not round.

And

7 or less: L-1
8 to 15: L-2
16 to 23: L-3
24 to 32: L-4

Towards the top of each bracket some FOS's and general dislike on top of the votes is also needed.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #173 (isolation #31) » Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:56 am

Post by armlx »

KortS has an argument against me? And you are dodging questions?

FOS GS


Also, agree with KortS' last post

FOS Sun Tzu


If I had 3 votes......
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #179 (isolation #32) » Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:04 am

Post by armlx »

Lowell, that might fly in a mini with another 2 or so town power roles and 1 mafia group, but not in a large with 2 killing groups. The mafia doesn't have to kill the masons for a while as 2 confirmeds isn't huge until late game.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #184 (isolation #33) » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:03 am

Post by armlx »

IAU was semi-in the right to vote. You not answering his question is definitely votable, but he didn't do it in the post he asked again, and instead waited till later, without you posting in between, to vote.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #187 (isolation #34) » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:15 am

Post by armlx »

Voting doesn't come into it. The question was simply asking which you found scummier.
I take issue with the question not having a neither option. If GS hadn't stalled on answering, I would 100% support him instead of being on both sides.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #200 (isolation #35) » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:00 am

Post by armlx »

Who said the question didn't have a neither option?
Statistical studies have shown that not stating a neither option is avaliable when it is a valid response leads to bias in the result.
And which stall are you talking about here, the stall on roflcopter's initial question, or the stall on my request for elaboration on his response to the former? Or both? (Or neither? Wink )
The one you voted him for.

Lowell, vibes != proof or logic, therefore vibes = nothing unless you can back them with logic. As such, any vibe only based votes or alignment thoughts on people from you will be responded to with a "Please show your work" from me. Your incentive to do so will be my not bringing up memories of annoying math teachers once you start using logic.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #219 (isolation #36) » Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:58 pm

Post by armlx »

This is poor logic because there is 5 scum compared to 15 town. So even if you eliminate 1 town (the vig himself), it's still only a 5 in 19 chance of hitting scum, with a decent chance of hitting a town power role.
I will be happy to argue the logic behind N0 vigging outside the thread some other time, but for now no one should bring up the subject any more as it will give away who can't be the vig if people agree/disagree.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #225 (isolation #37) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:59 am

Post by armlx »

iamausername wrote:
Korts wrote:
armlx wrote:
This is poor logic because there is 5 scum compared to 15 town. So even if you eliminate 1 town (the vig himself), it's still only a 5 in 19 chance of hitting scum, with a decent chance of hitting a town power role.
I will be happy to argue the logic behind N0 vigging outside the thread some other time, but for now no one should bring up the subject any more as it will give away who can't be the vig if people agree/disagree.
And with that, you've just given away that you're not the vig. Good job.
roflcopter, this is what rolefishing looks like.
Unvote, Vote: Korts
Yup.

Unvote, Vote KortS


I have a suspicion fl is just newbie wagon bait in general.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #247 (isolation #38) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:09 am

Post by armlx »

And actually, now that I re-read armlx's reasoning, I realized I read it wrong the first time, as in armlx didn't deny being the vig in any way. Ah well.
This is the exact danger of your post, and hence the reason I am voting you.

I could also get behind an SC lynch. Pretty shameless wagoning. Rather lynch KortS first though, as theres a connection there now that would reveal info.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #251 (isolation #39) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:50 am

Post by armlx »

@armlx: you are trying to prepare multiple lynches. Not good. Real bad. And what is this connection that you speak of?
SC defending you.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #255 (isolation #40) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:10 am

Post by armlx »

Right, yet you fail to draw the same connection between forbiddanlight and me. Strange.
I've already stated why I'm starting to believe fl isn't scum. I still believe that, and hence did not feel the connection there was relevant.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #260 (isolation #41) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:13 pm

Post by armlx »

Vamparific wrote:oh i got lotsa votes...lol
Good posting......

I strongly suggest we ignore a vamp lynch however. People list him are optimal vig targets as their lynches rarely polarize people.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #262 (isolation #42) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:06 pm

Post by armlx »

Again, this isn't much of a point against armlx, I just don't see why armlx keeps arguing against the masons claiming when they already have.
Its relevant to Lowell's townieness later on.
First, changing history, the "wagon to claim" thing. Not all that scummy by itself, but it not being correct invalidates the argument, yet armlx keeps pushing the point it should serve to strengthen.
I had assumed in reading this was the reason rofl had claimed, although it was admittedly early for a claim by wagon. Given rofl's post, the cause of his claim was fairly ambiguous IMO, so my posts on the topic are hardly "changing history".

Also, nice job misordering the 2 quotes to make it look like 2 incidents.

So your case now amounts to something you admit is only minorly scummy and something you admit is biased by OMGUS.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #277 (isolation #43) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:08 am

Post by armlx »

dear vigilante,
please kill vamp tonight for the good of the colony
I agree with rofl here, as per my post a page or so ago.
its like every time somebody has brought up scummy things armlx has done, he chooses the one he thinks he can most easily refute and says jack squat about the rest of the points in the case.
Except I responded to every point on the case.....
armlx, you have contradicted yourself. You said that roflcopter was bandwagoned to the point of claiming mason, which Korts said he was not. You then bring Lowell into this, implying that you knew that he asked for a mason claim. Said claim request is actually why I currently think he's scummy (remember that I was VERY hesitant to clear roflcopter of my suspicions), but other issues have come up since. Some of them involve you. So without further ado:
Of course I knew about Lowell's statement, but in no way did I assume that was the reason rofl claimed for 2 reasons: 1) he had a growing wagon on him and 2) It was one of the dumbest ideas ever.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #279 (isolation #44) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:13 am

Post by armlx »

Nice way of ignoring the points that actually made me vote you. Read the last paragraph. Setting up Day 2 lynch, ignoring possible forbiddanlight-Korts connection despite having the same basis as the SC-Korts connection.
Setting up D2 lynch only applies if the person we lynch today is scum, as obviously there is no connection if you are town.

I explained the lack of caring about fl because I think fl is town now, so why would a connection to you matter?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #281 (isolation #45) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:09 am

Post by armlx »

You miss the point completely. Why would I be attacking someone I think is town based on one point? SC not only has the defense of you, but has been on actually every other wagon up till now besides yours. Why the exception?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #283 (isolation #46) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:58 am

Post by armlx »

armlx wrote:
@armlx: you are trying to prepare multiple lynches. Not good. Real bad. And what is this connection that you speak of?
SC defending you.
Where does it say only SC did it.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #285 (isolation #47) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:10 am

Post by armlx »

You are misrepresenting me. In no way, shape, or form, did I ever say only SC defended you, as you are implying here
Since your point was only that SC believed me
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #291 (isolation #48) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:55 pm

Post by armlx »

Who would you say is scummier, Korts or SC? Personally, I'd say SC, in which case, we should lynch hm first to test the connection, and really consider Korts for the next lynch if SC turns up scum.
I'm leaning KortS if only because I'm unsure on whether this is SC's standard behavior.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #295 (isolation #49) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:22 pm

Post by armlx »

And you're sure that this isn't my standard behavior?
From what I have seen, I am sure.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #299 (isolation #50) » Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:09 am

Post by armlx »

Where did you refute the connection?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #336 (isolation #51) » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:48 am

Post by armlx »

You seem awfully willing to give up your case for being convinced I am scum KortS. The fact you just jump on rofl's other suspect is pretty sketchy too.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #340 (isolation #52) » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:40 am

Post by armlx »

Wow. So pointing out a (valid) tell is definitely only to buddy up to rofl. Bravo!
1. The tell isn't that strong.

2. You seem to be much more convinced I am scum.

Put these 2 together with the fact the person you have been following most of the game had adder as his other suspect, and you get the impression of opportunistic buddying.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #344 (isolation #53) » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:27 am

Post by armlx »

armlx, show me how I've been doing nothing but following rofl.
Well, that + wagon. You have voted most recently his top 2 suspects, after chasing every wagon to that point (Vamp, fl) and flipping around on those sometimes as well.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #346 (isolation #54) » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:47 am

Post by armlx »

Korts wrote:So?
Buddying up to a confirmed townie after wagoning massively isn't scummy?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #348 (isolation #55) » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:50 am

Post by armlx »

The point being, me having been on every wagon (with valid points having been stated) proves me following rofl how?
Its mainly the shift to me once things calmed down, then the shift to his second once his first target was "No, ur wrong"'ed.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #380 (isolation #56) » Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:57 am

Post by armlx »

Nothing has changed. Liking my vote, GS is being GS, SC hasn't made any posts that would make me think anything else about him.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #389 (isolation #57) » Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:28 pm

Post by armlx »

Everyone needs to STFU about the vig right now as to not narrow down who it could be.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #398 (isolation #58) » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:53 am

Post by armlx »

(Note: I don't object to your saying we shouldn't discuss the vig, as I tried to avoid talking about it as well. What I object to is the way you said it.)
What IAUN said, and it definitely got everyone to stop talking about it, am I right?
Vigs are useless anyway. There, I said it.
Will discuss post game.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #400 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:24 am

Post by armlx »

@Arm: re your list of three reasons, it's also possible he's a townie playing in the BJ/JDodge manner. More people should do this, actually, so that cops can feel free to breadcrumb.
Yeah, but the issue is often people are wrong about their logic and doing that is just harmful. Those people can get away with it because they know what they are doing.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #408 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:24 am

Post by armlx »

3. I have admitted to bandwagoning, so it makes some sense.
Not valid reasoning. Just saying "I band wagon" and doing it does not give you a free pass to do so.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #412 (isolation #61) » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:27 pm

Post by armlx »

So, why is a single person directing the vig kill (when a 'majority' has essentially been decided) pro-town?
It isn't. If we want to direct the vig, it should be a full town decision aka second lynch once we already decide on the first.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #414 (isolation #62) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:52 am

Post by armlx »

I hate those kinda posts. I think they are detrimental to the town, and i will say so. Sue me.
Will do. If its a large post saying nothing, its scummy for being active lurking, if its a large post thats relevant, grow a pair and read.
Sure, but what's wrong with expressing an opinion on who needs to die? It's not like the vig is bound to listen. The only real problem i see with it is that if everyone expresses an opinion on who to vig, the vig basically has to either lie, or gives himself away by his choice. For instance, if, say, armlx says that Greasy Spot would be a horrible vig choice, and the vig then kills GS, it's pretty obvious it isn't armlx, isn't it?
Or the chance the vig listens to people who aren't really playing for the town's best interest.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #430 (isolation #63) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:54 pm

Post by armlx »

It's not ongoing for me.
Irrel, still don't.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #434 (isolation #64) » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:14 am

Post by armlx »

I'm saying he'll panic if he's scum, that's all.
But by saying this it negates the point of the wagon.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #438 (isolation #65) » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:32 pm

Post by armlx »

roflcopter wrote:so, guys, which of {armlx
BlakAdder
The Fonz (Enlight_Bystand)
Greasy Spot
iamausername
JordanA24
Korts
Lowell
silence
StrangerCoug
strife220
Sun Tzu
-TinVision-
Vamparific } are we lynching today, and which of them is getting vigged tonight? these are important questions, and i need the rest of the pro-town majority to help me answer them.
Fixed.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #464 (isolation #66) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:54 am

Post by armlx »

The wagon on me seems to boil down to SC trying hard to connect to me, as far as I see.
That, shameless wagoning, role fishing with the vig issue, and more.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #487 (isolation #67) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:38 am

Post by armlx »

If you're going to vig on N0, then spite is as good a reason as any.
No, spite is only good as a tie breaker among the people least likely to be useful.

That said, if SC is lying, there is no reason to counter claim or lynch her. Real vig just NK's.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #488 (isolation #68) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:38 am

Post by armlx »

EBWODP: Her = him. Me = apologize.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #490 (isolation #69) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:44 am

Post by armlx »

dcorbe was unlikely to be useful. sc made an informed spiteful decision.
I definitely agree with this, though of the N0 deaths he was second on the least useful list (K7 being the "winner")
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #492 (isolation #70) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:48 am

Post by armlx »

roflcopter wrote:and k7 was knifed. so the vig didn't want an idiot rampaging around with ridiculous theories (dcorbe), while the sk didn't want a lurkfest from k7. both make a degree of sense in terms of offing people who are annoying and often unreadable.
This is true.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #497 (isolation #71) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:08 pm

Post by armlx »

How do we know killa seven was SK'd?
Knife = more SK MO then bludgeon.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #504 (isolation #72) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:51 am

Post by armlx »

This is standard Lowell behavior. Korts is a better lynch.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #508 (isolation #73) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:29 am

Post by armlx »

I will vote: armix. This is standard armix scum play.
It is? What games are you basing this on?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #513 (isolation #74) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:46 am

Post by armlx »

SC, I would heavily favor you vigging who ever you feel is the best target and not listening to everyone else on that topic, barring a full majority saying you should vig a certain person.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #515 (isolation #75) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:48 am

Post by armlx »

Lowell wrote:
armlx wrote:This is standard Lowell behavior. Korts is a better lynch.
Now
I see why people get annoyed with my "town vibes" accusations. It's a douchy, backhanded compliment. It's basically "Oh, I own this guy. Because I'm so much more awesome than him and can read him like a book, I can confirm he's town."

Turnabout hurts.

Also, armlx is NOT town.
Do you have reasoning behind that statement? I do behind mine, 2 games where you have acted as such and flipped town (Elemental Mafia and an ongoing).
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #523 (isolation #76) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:15 pm

Post by armlx »

Pretty sure Silence is lurky in general and the lurking here is null. The others I'm not sure of.

507 is obv a joke, seems pretty standard for GS.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #527 (isolation #77) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:00 pm

Post by armlx »

armix, you never answered my question. You neither, Korts. I'm not seein your respective cases.
Sorry, here is why: Korts has been all over the place vote wise, and kept digging at the vig issue.

SC, Greasy does things like this. I don't get why, but he does.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #532 (isolation #78) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:00 pm

Post by armlx »

Blarginoid wrote:im new :P so idk wat 2 do :oops:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8208
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #534 (isolation #79) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:36 pm

Post by armlx »

Vig Iron.
Where is this coming from? Vig claimed mason N1 seems poor.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #536 (isolation #80) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:51 pm

Post by armlx »

IAUN, more likely mafia then SK, but same diff.

Just assuming rofl is being dumb and IM is being lurkish is a better idea for now then vig testing.

The rest of Muerrto's stuff is good tho.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #539 (isolation #81) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:57 pm

Post by armlx »

Muerrto, you forgot C. The SK tests them for us or the mafia kills them because we assume/know they are town.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #540 (isolation #82) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:59 pm

Post by armlx »

That said, I still think Korts is scummy, but Blak could use a lynching as well.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #542 (isolation #83) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:29 pm

Post by armlx »

Mafia usually is forced to kill masons later though due to sheer numbers. And SC dying isn't so clear cut.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #545 (isolation #84) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:17 pm

Post by armlx »

This is all 'standard lowell behaviour' ???
Pretty much, except the mason thing which is simply a scenario I haven't seen him in before.

Lowell is an easy lynch because his play style is naturally scummy. Encouraging light wagoning isn't that bad usually, but can be.

fl's post is a straw man I think.

Agree with strife's points on the masons.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #547 (isolation #85) » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:40 am

Post by armlx »

Muerrto, if anything, your behavior has created a self-fulfilling prophecy in that now that the mafia know there is doubt in the town about the masons they will act around said doubt.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #555 (isolation #86) » Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:48 am

Post by armlx »

Rather leave Muerrto around for now. While I do find the mason comment out of character for him, I don't think its enough for a lynch on its own.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #557 (isolation #87) » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:00 am

Post by armlx »

the main point against him is gut feeling.
Epic fail. Gut feeling is the weapon of people who have no desire to analyze, whether out of sloth or being scum.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #560 (isolation #88) » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:17 am

Post by armlx »

I analyzed you. I didn't get proof.
That is why you fail.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #586 (isolation #89) » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:00 pm

Post by armlx »

There is no reason scum would claim masons here Muerrto, especially right into a potential 2 for 1 counter claim.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #589 (isolation #90) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:12 am

Post by armlx »

StrangerCoug wrote:
Muerrto wrote:
StrangerCoug wrote:
Muerrto wrote:No mason would claim in his first post IMO but hey...
roflcopter claimed mason on his ninth post.
He said IM was obv town in his first post. That's his claim.
If the ridiculously lame (and I really do mean ridiculously lame) term "obvious town" can be called a claim at all, then it's a soft claim. The only difference I know between that and a breadcrumb is that the former implies "hint, hint" and the latter involves planting information to be discovered later.
SC, the absurdity of that statement in the first post of the game is going to lead to the outing that happened here, so its more or less a claim.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #606 (isolation #91) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:42 pm

Post by armlx »

armlx wrote:
I will vote: armix. This is standard armix scum play.
It is? What games are you basing this on?
GS, this question is unanswered. Please do so.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #631 (isolation #92) » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:35 am

Post by armlx »

BlakAdder isn't a terrible lynch.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #634 (isolation #93) » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:18 am

Post by armlx »

forbiddanlight wrote:
orangepenguin wrote:
unvote silence
,
vote:BlakAdder
- He has contributed nothing to the game, jumping on several big wagons, and post things irrelevant to the game, and doesn't even back up his posts when he does post anything significant.
Good choice...but I can't help but wonder if you are attempting a bus. Also, what other suspicions do you have in this game? Seriously, everyone has done at least SOMETHING scummy. I wouldn't mind seeing a more wide range of thoughts so we can have an idea of your stance.
I like the idea of this post, not the execution (ie. Post more details = good).
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #640 (isolation #94) » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:23 pm

Post by armlx »

FOS Fonz


For someone who likes lurker lynches so much, your posts have been fairly sporadic.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #647 (isolation #95) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:02 am

Post by armlx »

The Fonz wrote:
armlx wrote:
FOS Fonz


For someone who likes lurker lynches so much, your posts have been fairly sporadic.
14 posts in 13 days, including a five-day period I was v/la. That's hardly lurking, arm.
I did not realize you were v/la. I just saw there were 2-4 day periods without your posts between conversations with people.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #649 (isolation #96) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:29 am

Post by armlx »

The Fonz wrote:That's not uncharacteristic of my posting habits though... busy for a couple days, only get chance to make a few quick posts, then get a day off and do some hardcore catching up.
Fair nuff, its possible I've never payed attention to your posts early so they look more spread out.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #655 (isolation #97) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:33 pm

Post by armlx »

roflcopter wrote:i agree with this guy called chamber whose custom title is "cases are scummy"
*facepalm*
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #658 (isolation #98) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:13 pm

Post by armlx »

L-2, claim and/or die etc etc.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #667 (isolation #99) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:59 am

Post by armlx »

Korts wrote:The fact that he's being of little help to us and you (the vig, or so you say) don't vig him isn't going to get him NK'ed, since there's no other pro-town killing role. I don't understand your logic unless you're actually the SK.
That line of discussion gets us nowhere and only sets up for poor decisions. SC's alignment will be discovered tonight regardless of him living or dying, end of story.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #670 (isolation #100) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:53 am

Post by armlx »

He hasn't posted on site in a week, which is probably worth a
Prod Blakadder
.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #720 (isolation #101) » Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:27 am

Post by armlx »

Ting: Where did I "go for GS"?

BA is definitely the lynch about now.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #725 (isolation #102) » Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:37 pm

Post by armlx »

SC, stop listening to what other people are saying about who you should vig, unless we can all come around and do a second full vote on it. Taking 3-4 opinions is not going to help.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #729 (isolation #103) » Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:11 pm

Post by armlx »

SC surviving the night proves that either he's the vig, or we don't have a vig.
3 kills last night proves we have a vig.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #736 (isolation #104) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:54 am

Post by armlx »

Fonz also makes a good point beyond the 2-3 opinions is easier to influence as scum one I was talking about.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #739 (isolation #105) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:18 am

Post by armlx »

The Fonz wrote:A lot of people keep trying to portray mildly incorrect linguistic choices as scum slips.

Can't say I'm a fan.

QFT
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #743 (isolation #106) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:45 am

Post by armlx »

If my opinion's important to you in any way, SC, I'd suggest you vig tin orangepenguin in the event of BlakAdder turning scum, otherwise there are quite a lot of contestants.
See the top of the page.

And I forgot to vote post claim. Time to end this.

Vote BlackAdder
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #746 (isolation #107) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:02 am

Post by armlx »

Korts wrote:Armlx, your point being?
Welcome to the wonderful world of vig direction?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #748 (isolation #108) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:36 am

Post by armlx »

BlakAdder wrote:Deadlines make things lame
Fixed.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #758 (isolation #109) » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:24 am

Post by armlx »

IAUN kept following armlx's reasoning and protected him on the vig issue.
You mean the vig issue that we should be killing every night, which is mathematically proven better?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #760 (isolation #110) » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:29 am

Post by armlx »

But armlx is looking worse right now, I think.
Sorry to ruin your day, but 1) infi people agreed on the vig thing and 2) scum barning someone is no where indicative of a connection. Protecting yes, and the GS attack then back of yes, but barning like that is more commonly associated with "buddying", where a scum player tries to garner the favor of someone who is active in town discussion to avoid their suspicion.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #764 (isolation #111) » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:29 am

Post by armlx »

It is associated both with "buddying" and "partnership." Sorry. I'm voting for the latter.
Why? Do you have any logical reason outside of this supposed connection to believe I am scum?
No, I mean when I called you out for what I thought to be claiming non-vig, he immediately jumped on me.
Your point?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #774 (isolation #112) » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:59 am

Post by armlx »

'SC, why did you target Lowell?'
Does that matter? SC is confirmed vig now.
D1 when everyone was pushing the Vamp vig, IAUN pulled the "GS would also make a good vig..."
Good call.

FoS Muerrto

FoS Korts
for the reasons from yesterday and the crap logic push today. Not sure which is the better vote though.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #776 (isolation #113) » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:20 am

Post by armlx »

Hm. Now I've had a good think about it, it may be buddying up, you're right. I'm not comfortable myself going by mostly gut, which this basically is, aside from IAUN protecting you.
ORLY? Not comfortable going by gut? Your vote D1 was 100% gut, until you hopped off to vote BA.

Vote KortS
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #781 (isolation #114) » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:03 am

Post by armlx »

Also, armlx, I hope you're not starting with the capitalized S at the end again.
Oh, sorry. I blame Cephrir.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #789 (isolation #115) » Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:25 pm

Post by armlx »

Um, yes it is?
Its buddying actually.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #810 (isolation #116) » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:14 pm

Post by armlx »

FoS: roflcopter
Rofl is p much confirmed town. This is worthless.

I also forgot GS completely dodged my question when I asked him what "standard armlx scum play" was.

Strong FoS Ting
, with possible vote moving later.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #822 (isolation #117) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:09 am

Post by armlx »

That does not give him the right to commit scumtells and be generally unhelpful to the town.
No, it does not, but placing FoS's is not the right way to deal with it. Proving him wrong is.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #839 (isolation #118) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:19 am

Post by armlx »


He's was harping on and on about IAU from July 3 until July 16 - nearly two weeks. I would have stopped attacking someone way sooner than he had if it was clear that a wagon was clearly not going to build.
Who, GS? I didn't think he had a post between those two to harp on with.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #862 (isolation #119) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:32 pm

Post by armlx »

Nice leading question Rofl.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #865 (isolation #120) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:46 pm

Post by armlx »

do you think he's trying to make you his pet townie?
This one.

BTW, when I use the phrase "Nice <action here>", sarcasm is implied.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #867 (isolation #121) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:05 pm

Post by armlx »

i thought it was valid because, from his pov, he's either really a townie or pretending to be a townie, and can answer the question as such
Except that description is true of everyone (though not specific to the role townie). If he is really a townie, that phrasing doesn't apply as it implies he is scum buddying.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #869 (isolation #122) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:32 pm

Post by armlx »

armlx please stop protecting the fonz by making me feel stupid
I like how you used feel instead of look here.
and what i was implying is that fonzscum wants to coddle muerrtotown so that muerrtotown votes with fonzscum in later, more important lynches.
Again, your question leads Muerrto down the path of Fonz being scum without stating a basis in that assumption, which sets up for misrep etc.
its especially good for scum to buddy up to townies who are not gonna get nightkilled due to having been under heavy suspicion.
This is semi-true as the scum can just not night-kill someone anyways.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #871 (isolation #123) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:38 pm

Post by armlx »

i like how you don't deny protecting fonz
I'm not denying it in any way, only I would like to add I'm protecting Muerrto just as much. Not only does your question set it up to look like a Fonz wagon has more support, it sets Muertto up to be called out as contradicting himself if he later retains his current stance on Fonz.
but if muerrto (or someone under an equally high level of suspicion at any point) is not nightkilled, no one is gonna turn around and go huh, i wonder why the heck the scum didn't kill that guy?
Usually looking into scum NK's too much just leads to bad things anyways, as there are so many lines of logic that lead to the same decision from different points of origin.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #875 (isolation #124) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:58 pm

Post by armlx »

it can get wifomy, but trying to figure out what the scum were thinking when they killed someone can really be helpful, if for nothing else than for orienting your own thinking.
Except each individual person values so many different things when deciding on a kill as scum, not to mention how each specific grouping would value things, its hard to get a read on what is going on.
for example, if i think scum killed player x because player x would have gotten them lynched, i won't necessarily say so because someone will just go 'lol wifom what if they just wanted us to think that,' but it will make me start looking for other evidence against the person player x would have gotten lynched.
Fair nuff.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #877 (isolation #125) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:17 pm

Post by armlx »

The only thing Tin did that irked me was the lurker vote, but its not an especially scummy action given the varying opinions on the subject. The rest of his posting was decently productive.

From Penguin's posts the one thing that interests me is the automatic assignment of "suspect" to me based on your question, but again its not something scummy.

Basically, I see nothing terribly swingy scummy, and some pro-town productiveness.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #879 (isolation #126) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:29 am

Post by armlx »

This game is due for a player-by-player reread. Will do sometime this week.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #889 (isolation #127) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:50 am

Post by armlx »

If you really must know, I killed Lowell, and it looks to me like sun tzu and iamausername killed each other. But that's a question I don't like.
This is true.

Silence, this set up uses distinct kill MO's for each group. We definitely aren't outguessing the mod here.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #892 (isolation #128) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:21 am

Post by armlx »

Korts is right here. Without a tracker/watcher or RB the mod would not need to keep track of who is doing the killing.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #900 (isolation #129) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:36 pm

Post by armlx »

Was no one else bothered by this line? 'Let's just hurry up and end the day with a mislynch already'. No one commented on it.
I would have agreed if you hadn't tried to slip in the "mislynch" part. So close, yet so far.

Muerrto should know better then to run subtle appeals to emotion. This makes me want to consider voting him.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #903 (isolation #130) » Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:49 am

Post by armlx »

So how's it an appeal and how is it a tell either way?
Its an appeal to emotion in that you are baselessly saying you are town, which plays off fear of a mislynch. Just saying you are town does not make it true.
@Armlx: What do you think of Silence?
I don't see anything terrible. The low posting is on par with the last game I played with silence.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #905 (isolation #131) » Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:35 pm

Post by armlx »

I never expected it to. But in that situation it would be a mislynch so I stated as such. I'm not seeing your point here at all.
You are calling it a mislynch, which is illogical in the abstract as we have no real evidence of your alignment at the moment.

I'm not talking about lurking. I'm talking about lurking then popping in and basically saying 'why haven't we lynched him yet?' without contributing anything to the discussion or mentioning anything about what had happened in earlier posts.
Where is silence doing that?
@Armlx: How is what Silence is doing any different from what Vamp did?
Vamp was using BS logic or lack of logic to wagon hop. Silence is at least responding to issues at hand.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #914 (isolation #132) » Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:46 pm

Post by armlx »

Can we get a
Vote Count
? Please?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #923 (isolation #133) » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:09 pm

Post by armlx »

Silence popped in, mentioned nothing about any of the recent posts, and asked if we could just lynch me.
I see a reasoning as to why you are scummy before that, which makes the play acceptable given silence's posting level.
Um...can you quote that? As far as I can tell Vamp used NO logic. He just popped in and voted people. Where's the BS logic?
Vamp wrote: i find armlx scummier for trying to take control of the game
argh i dont want to be on rofl's side
Those qualify as attempts at logic.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #931 (isolation #134) » Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:08 am

Post by armlx »

I'm convinced by the OrangePenguin post. Waiting on the VC to vote though.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #935 (isolation #135) » Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:37 pm

Post by armlx »

Muerrto: wrote: He's a better player than this and I've never seen him go for a case this weak.
Thats a lie. We played Elemental Mafia together, 50% of that game was weak cases. and you think the case on you is weak?
strife wrote: I say the same thing as town and scum
I've noticed most experienced players don't say it as town.

Mod - Fixed Tags.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #938 (isolation #136) » Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:59 am

Post by armlx »

Vote Muerrto


That is all. Vamp was pretty much null, but the IAUN connection alone is a solid case.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #946 (isolation #137) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:36 am

Post by armlx »

That said, this man is clearly town. Just the arrogant way he is playing feels like a trip down memory lane for me.
Spoiler: He claims mason.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #952 (isolation #138) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:04 pm

Post by armlx »

And the case about IAUN 'protecting' Vamp is complete crap and those pushing it know it.
Instead of just saying this, prove it.

Self meta is the ultimate WIFOM.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #956 (isolation #139) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:23 pm

Post by armlx »

The reason is its him trying to set me up for a lynch on the basis of me saying a true thing.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #958 (isolation #140) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:32 pm

Post by armlx »

I agree with the above post.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #960 (isolation #141) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:22 pm

Post by armlx »

Just so you know,
I will be away from Thursday till Sunday
.

Still like my vote where it is.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #965 (isolation #142) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:11 am

Post by armlx »

Claims? So do i take it that you don't believe him?
No, I definitely do. Claim is the generic term for saying your role in thread.

I'm willing to wait for a final analysis from Muerrto before a lynch.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #967 (isolation #143) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:19 am

Post by armlx »

Except I used it as a descriptor of his actions in thread.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #970 (isolation #144) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:11 pm

Post by armlx »

to what end?
Mainly as a joke, partially to get you to move along past things that were determined a long time ago
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #975 (isolation #145) » Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:54 am

Post by armlx »

and, also, why do you want to wait for a final analysis from Muerrto, when you seem to be his top suspect?
I have issues other then self-preservation on my mind? I'd rather not go into why and how a game analysis pre-lynch is relevant until after he posts it, but is there a reason I shouldn't want it posted other then him thinking I am scum?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #977 (isolation #146) » Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:04 am

Post by armlx »

If you are town, self-preservation should be an important enough issue in itself.
This is where you are wrong. Self preservation is second to finding the scum as town, if not further down the line.

I'm interested why you are so assured that both of us are town, as that is the only scenario in which your concern applies.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #989 (isolation #147) » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:27 am

Post by armlx »


The assumption of Muerrto being town was inferred by you, and your intrigue into his suspicions. The assertion of you being town was a scenario used to portray why i felt your comment was far from in the interest of the town.

Furthermore, i don't believe i ever said that self-preservation is more important than finding scum. But then, given Muerrto has already outlined his suspicions quite succinctly, the only real impact i can see of him providing more analysis would be to the end of proving you are scum. Which, unless you consider YOURSELF to be scum, cannot be considered encouraging scumhunting.
As for the assumption of Muerrto = town, I did not assume anything of the sort. I left the door open in case it is true, that is all.

As for the only impact his analysis could bring is suspicion on me, you fail to understand the concept of people being able to think multiple people are scummy.
Armlx, however, seems to be doing the exact opposite-by encouraging a case on himself, he is not only NOT SCUMHUNTING but he is also setting HIMSELF up as a lynch candidate.
If my actions were legitimately scummy enough to warrant a case, they would be noticed later. What does it matter if the case is now or later? Its probably even better if the case is made now, as any refutations and responses I make now are less likely to be lost in a flood of other behavior, and tunnel vision is less likely to happen.
if Armlx was going to refute said case against him from Muerrto, he would already have done so.
If he had posted one, I would, but his only attack so far is "You are too good to be voting me right now".
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #992 (isolation #148) » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:47 am

Post by armlx »

armlx, I don't follow your train of thought. How does a case being presented now prevent the development of tunnel vision?
Someone does a reread. They see behavior X early, and as such assume I am scum through the reread and frame all my actions in a scummy light.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #1000 (isolation #149) » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:53 pm

Post by armlx »

BM wrote: My point was not that Muerrto shouldnt analyse Armlx, but that Armlx encouraging him to do so seemed odd.
You may think it odd, but is it even possibly a scummy action.
Korts wrote: I took armlx to be waiting for a general analysis on the game, a kind of finger-pointing post.
Korts wins the prize of knowing what I'm talking about.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #1003 (isolation #150) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:41 am

Post by armlx »

Secondly, I wasnt aware that Armlx was not already voting for Muerrto.
Actually, I am.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #1029 (isolation #151) » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:15 am

Post by armlx »

BM wrote: You are voting for him, and seem content enough with his lynch today. Why then would you want his comments UNLESS you thought he was town?
Why wouldn't I want his comments if he is mafia? I see no loss here if he comments.
As i pointed out earlier, blindly encouraging participation is certainly scummy.
How so, assuming it is not used as a cover to avoid participating yourself?
SC wrote: I still think it's Muerrto. I haven't decided on a vig target, but I think it's a better idea to pick one based on the alignment of the eventual lynchee.
Beating a dead horse here, but no one besides you should be picking a vig target at this point (though its ok to agree with someone's analysis as your reasoning behind the vig, don't just listen because a group says so).

Fonz's last post is pretty much what I want to say about the BM thing.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #1039 (isolation #152) » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:17 pm

Post by armlx »

given that muerrto is probably telling the truth about being town (no reason to lie post mortem) i think that makes fonz and armlx much more likely to be scum.
Why?
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
User avatar
armlx
armlx
Most JDTay-like
User avatar
User avatar
armlx
Most JDTay-like
Most JDTay-like
Posts: 13500
Joined: February 25, 2005

Post Post #1043 (isolation #153) » Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:31 pm

Post by armlx »

Bah, go town.
Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
Locked

Return to “Completed Large Normal Games”