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This would be awesome if I could afford it. MTGO is infinitly better than the free programs simply because of prize support and ability to do tournaments. Cockatrice, MWS, OCTGN, ect are all cool but no prize support so the competition is bad. I'm willing to play some people on MWS if they wanted to tho.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Mastermind of Sin wrote:Someone needs to start up the Mish Mash MTG tourneys through MWS again. Although it's been years since I played (last time I did a draft was M10), so I would probably suck even more than usual.
I'm all for this on cockatrice or mws, BUT I'm certain we lack someone willing to put the time in to properly mod one(which includes nagging players to actually play their games). This is among the long list of reasons I miss Yaw.
Also, I'm really not sold on what the format would be and if we'd have to mod two tournaments like in the past(sealed and constructed)Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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@Untrod: This is a great use for Draco too
I want to play some games with some people on here on something that isn't MTGO(cause I'm broke).
The angel is powerful but it won't see any play outside of standard. Any deck that cheats things out would rather have
I really want to try out that French Rites deck.
@Whoever said that RDW was the least interactive deck in some format: You're retarded. Attacking your opponent is interacting with them. Killing their creatures so you can kill them is interactive. RDW is always one of the more interactive decks in any format. Combo decks generally aren't interactive. Searching your library, pooling a shitload of mana, drawing a bunch of cards, then killing your opponent isn't interactive. Playing a bunch of creatures/burn spells and attacking/damaging them every turn for about 3-4 turns is very interactive.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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In post 80, bv310 wrote:Panzer, this is the most diverse Standard in years. U/W Delver, W/x Tokens, G/R Wolf Run (and the billion variants of all three), G/x Aggro, Haunted Humans, B/u Zombies, Birthing Pod, RDW, all place at tournaments relatively frequently. There's also a bunch of fringe-viable decks like Heartless (Grixis and U/B), FRites, Tempered Steel, Mono-B Infect, even some G/R Aggro-wolf decks can do really well.
Also, FRites, to me at least, is as one-dimensional as decks go. I know someone who played it for a while, then quit and made a Pod deck instead. He said it was too boring, and too vulnerable to Surgical Extraction to be useful right now.
I thought the end of the SoA-m10-ZEN-M11 season was incredibly diverse, right before Scars came out(Elfdrazi, Jund, Conscription, pyromancer, rdw, RUG, turbo fog) , but if all those decks are truly viable(last two events i looked up had 5/8ths Delver in the top 8) it will be worth checking out.
Also, I play legacy, so French Rites is right up my alley. Most Legacy decks are one dimensional.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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In post 104, xRECKONERx wrote:In post 102, PJ. wrote:Not at 1 am...I'm down anytime tomorrow though...depending on the set though...
I was thinking probably DII, or at least III.
Umm...is that like...Dark Ascension innistrad innistrad? Sorry I haven't looked at a set since the second set of Scars block, and that was vaguely.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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On Miracle: I think the Time Walk miracle could see play in legacy where you have Brainstorm, Ponder, Sensei's divining top, ect and can reliably get that effect. Maybe could bring back a countertop type deck. Miracle in standard won't be consistent enough and top players will quickly dismiss it. Remember the last time they reprinted a power 9 card? I do, it didn't amount to much at all. Time Reversal is poop, Time Twister is power 9. 2 mana big deal. So a card that will be useless occasionally will probably be a big deal.
I wanna build a casual deck around Arcane Melee though lol. Ramping up then playing arcane melee and throwing down huge spells over and over and over.
Browbeat is horrible for exactly why TSQ said. You're gonna get exactly what you don't want. The only time i can work out is like..I have 4 mana, you have 10 life and I have fireblast/lightning bolt in my hand. And you haven't got me on a one turn clock. cause if you take the 5 you're dead and if you give burn 3 cards, they'll get 5 damage out of it. But yeah outside of situations where both the 3 cards and 5 damage win the game, you're gonna lose.
I dig Howlgeist... but 7 mana for a 4 power "unblockable" isn't great. But i like the idea of it. If it was 5 mana it would be really good.
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In post 458, Thestatusquo wrote:http://www.channelfireball.com/articles ... in-legacy/
thoughts on this deck? I think the blue miracle finds a nice home here.
Both you and the article say that combo in legacy is meh right now, but every place I look I see Tendrils, Dredge, and Sneak Attack as Tier 1.
PEDIT: Looked through SCGs recent invitational results and have come to the conclusion that the reason those keep popping up is because it woudln't be very much fun to have the only decks listed be "Delver Tempo" and "Delver Aggro".
As far as Dream Halls is concerned, I had fun playing that deck before the blue miracle and it's just gonna be stronger and more fun with it. Do I think that makes it the best combo deck in the format? No, but that is probably irrelevant until something can win a tournament beside Delver+Countermagic.
Patting myself on the back to say that I called the Blue Miracle finding a home in legacy next to a playset of brainstorm.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Yeah you probably should of built for playing without the week rules, and then built for the week 2 rules once it was established you were using the rules.
/hindsight
Gonna dick around on MWS and see if I can get some worthwhile games with that Dream Halls list.
Edit: Played my first game with Dream Halls against Combo Elves. I think the other guy was bad, but I won both games without ever seeing Dream Halls. Didn't realize Show and Tell Progenitus beat elves...Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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4 Evolving Wilds
13 Island
10 Plains
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4 Devastation Tide
1 Dissipate
4 Entreat the Angels
4 Feeling of Dread
4 Temporal Mastery
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4 Cathedral Sanctifier
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3 Geist of Saint Traft
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Yes, there are cards that are block bombs that aren't great elsewhere, but the arguement was that miracle is shitty always, this deck proves otherwise.
@reckoner, dude, drawing a miracle everyturn sounds like a whole lot of fun to play. To play against, well all control decks are super annoying to play against.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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In post 581, bv310 wrote:Dram, most Standard decks are nowhere near expensive
This is not true. The Delver deck that just won the last SCG Open was $456.72. That is expenisve. Just because it's not as expensive as last standard/legacy does not mean it's not expensive. We are back to jund/mythic consciption prices.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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In post 697, bv310 wrote:Difference being, even bad planeswalkers are better than most mid-range non-planeswalkers.
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In post 744, Thestatusquo wrote:I think buying boxes is meh. Mythic rares have fucked the magic economy. Used to be you would be able to buy a box and have reasonable expectation of pulling your money back out of it. Now, I would be much more inclined to buy singles for a specific deck if I were to spend any money on cards. Or draft.
Essentially you get 4/5 mythics in a box. There are 16 mythics in innistrad, But only 3 of them are worth anything. I'm sure someone could do the math for you, but it's not in your favor to pull anything decent.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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In post 746, Thestatusquo wrote:isnt that kind of what I was saying? That, and also that mythics have sucked the money out of rares.
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In post 981, Sudo_Nym wrote:So here's a deck I'm thinking about, since I wanted a modern deck and I have a bunch of the cards already:
24x Swamp
4x Bloodghast
4x Gravecrawler
4x Butcher Ghoul
4x Geralf's Messenger
4x Blood Artist
4x Smallpox
4x Smother
4x Geth's Verdict
4x Inquisition of Kozilek
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4x Duress
4x Black Sun's Zenith
4x Doom Blade
3x Nihil Spellbomb
Inquisition instead of Thoughtseize for budget reasons, and no Liliana for the same reason, but the deck still feels "off" to me. Anybody with some insight?
First you want fetchs for bloodghasts. but that could be a budget issue.
Like most aggro decks, you get rolled by Martyr-Proc. How do you deal with KarnTron or Tron'd out Iona? Is duress/inquisition enough against Storm? How do you deal with Spltiner twin/Melira combo? I don't see you racing Affinity either. You fold to loam(outside of nailing all 3 seismic assaults with inquisition). Jund just outclasses you.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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In post 991, Shadow1psc wrote:So, I have 80% of a competitive dredge deck, I'm just missing Lion's Eye Diamond and City of Brass (the latter which I'll just pick up easy). Why is LED almost $100 x.x
Old and most of the good combo decks want it.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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In post 1292, bv310 wrote:Obviously it's Memory Adept.
Seriously though, that deck looks solid. My only idea would be to cut the two Think Twice for either 2 Dissipate or Syncopate.
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In post 1398, esuriospiritus wrote:In post 1396, Thestatusquo wrote:In post 1394, hasdgfas wrote:Pack Rat is very, very good in Limited. If you open a Pack Rat, you're in black now.
I don't think there is a magic player in existence who does not know this.
I didn't, but I'm new at this.
Also TIL I hate rancor.
Rancor is pretty legit, it used to be pretty decent in legacy, I think it might of even made a comeback with Infect.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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In post 2964, Thestatusquo wrote:Legacy is not expensive. In the long run legacy is far far far far cheaper than standard.
As Fate alluded to, i'd need to buy playsets of dual lands to compete. That's multiple playsets of 150 dollar cards. Also If I'm playing blue, I need Force AND Jace. Green needs Goyf. It would literally take me 4-5 months to build any competitive legacy deck, and while I understand the format doesn't rotate and your cards don't necessarily lose their value very fast but it's still an expensive format to get started in.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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http://magiccards.info/query?q=!Rakdos+Pit+Dragon -> the only dragon in original Dragon Stompy. Dragon Stompy was a trinisphere-Moon aggro control deck that killed with ArcSlogger, Pit Dragon and Tauren Mauler.
I think it has werewolf flip guys and Thundermaw Hellkite in it now.
Also yeah I'd have to test with someone on lackey to see if I even like Legacy as a format after seeing what's been placing in the SCG tourney's.Seems like a bunch of tempo decks. UWR Delver, RUG Delver, Shardless BUG, BUG Delver. Good Creatures + force and Daze.dec seems to be every deck. And the combo decks seem super fucking boring now. Omni-Tell. I see some Tendrils which is decent, but no dredge(which I know that's a lightning in a bottle deck), no belcher, No High tide, no elves, No reanimator, no cephalid breakfast.
It's seems like all these major Legacy tournaments is like, Tempo and Deathblade wins, sometimes Tendrils or a Show deck sneaks in, no aggro ever.
Also, what every happened to those old Dark Depths-Vampire hexmage decks from extended, not strong enough for Legacy? Especially when it incorporated the Thopter Foundry combo it seemed liek that was a deck that had some serious potential for Legacy.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Do they do super saver shipping to aussie land?In post 3344, Oman wrote:Aussie shipping is about $10 per order, obviously size doesn't matter in the quantities we're talking.
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In post 3461, Thestatusquo wrote:You used the new art for browbeat. How could you?Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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In post 5090, hasdgfas wrote:Yaw and I used to play EDH on OCTGN pretty often (and sudo would join us sometimes as well). It's not actually that bad if you don't try to use the "features" they have for magic.
I remember this, this was super fun.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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On extended: to he fair, the last official extended season only had one standard deck(faeries). The reason that format sucked had more to do with the fact that three combo decks(depths, thopter, hypergenesis) dominated the format to an unreasonable degree which later become a field of 2 once depths and thopter became 1 deck.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Is abzan the clear best deck?
Is playing Online worth the money it cost? I don't really have time to try to chase PTQs and stuff and a lot of FNM type stuff runs later than my bed time on my work nights so I'm not sure if paper magic wouldn't really be even close to worth it(and I work weekends so major events are basically out of the question) but I've had the itch to play. Is there enough prize support online to make my time worth it? How are the Legacy and Modern scenes online?Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Are there bigger events online? What is the prize for winning dailies? Just a couple tickets?
Free magic is typically not fun magic.I used to play when MWS was a thing but there was a lot of cheating and a lot of arguing about rules. It was basically pick up basketball. Also didn't cocktrice die a long time ago?Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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I would basically never agree to a red raft under any circumstances. If I knew it was happening before the draft, I wouldn't play and if I somehow missed that it was happening and ended up playing anyway, I'd walk out if my Rares were any sort of valuable and never come back.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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So if one was interested in getting back into magic, and did not want to deal with Standard and didn't already have force/duals, then modern is the place to be? What is good in Modern? I know twin and birthing pod are weirdly gone. And apparently they just had to kill eye of ugin because eldrazi too good, but now whats goodm
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