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the thing I like about this Standard 2020 event on Arena is that I've been playing with the same ~54/60 cards for the past few months anyway (4 lands, Cast Down and tryin out some fun-ofs - sideboard is all rotation-proof) so I don't have to bother tinkering with a super new deck. mana's actually not too bad, despite ~9 ETB-Tapped lands, since usually turns 3 and 4 are casting 2/3cmc cards anyway. drawing one of em on turn 5 with a Bolas in hand still sucks tho, as does us not getting better fixing in Eldraine.
went down to only one 3cmc Chandra because the flashback is most useful (as I rarely get to rush a Bolas ultimate nowadays with the loyalty-0) and I never really want to draw two in the same game. decided to run a miser Drawn For Dreams instead for some more mid/mid-lategame tempo as the deck can kinda flounder sometimes. running Angrath's Rampage in Ranked seemed to bring out all the Tamiyos and token decks but it's done work in this event so far. and I'm running two Shimmer over Anticipate (because Teferi) or Discovery/Dispersal (Surveil 2/Draw feels clunky compared to seeing 4 cards and I've cast Dispersal maybe once). sideboard has two Duress, another Negate, some Noxious Grasps and Frys, two Ashiok, two Unmoored Ego, and some number of Disfigure/Elderspell/Flame Sweep. Aether Gust is under consideration, as is a second Ugin (either in side or replacing Lili).
despite it turning on your opponent's removal, I wonder if Grixis wants to try an Amass strategy, with Widespread Brutality (1BRR Amass 2, deal damage to creatures = Army's power), Enter the God-Eternals (lifegain definitely helps Grixis), Commence the Endgame (probably too expensive) and Callous Dismissal (only really for enchantments, Grixis can deal with most everything else). Dreadhorde Invasion and Lazotep Plating (1U Amass 1, you and your permanents gain hexproof til EOT) for the control matchups?If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Bant was insane with the amount of ramp, Jund was also fun. couldn't get the hang of the Esper deck to save my life.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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In post 7787, Inferno390 wrote:Actually what do you guys think of my current deck list in general? I’m still looking to fine tune a little bit. I think shock is kind of weak in the deck among other things.
this is what I've been messing around with in the 2020 event as well
3cmc Chandra, as much as I love her, is weaker in a deck without many instant/sorceries. could be useful in the sideboard because it's good against control? Cloudkin Seers can still pressure PWs and provide card advantage, and works well with Risen Reef/Awakener. Scampering Scorcher has felt awful for me against things like 2/2 zombies from Field and Kasmina Wizard tokens when I've drawn it in my deck, how does running the full four feel in yours?
Neoform has done work for me. obviously feels bad in Bo1 against counterspells though. I was going full Pod and trying out one-ofs like Skatewing Spy and Zegana due to the amount of +1/+1 counters that are used in this deck, but sometimes you can't rely on 4-6 Omnaths for removal so I'm begrudgingly runningonly30 creatures. also considered Cavalier of Gales again but Risen Reef/Cloudkin draw so many cards already, I'd rather re-draw an Omnath/Spark Double/Chandra.
writing this post I realized that maybe I want the 4th Druid over 4th Trailblazer yeah?If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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mine's more combo-aggro, I suppose
the deck's manabase can't afford colorless sources. shocks are too good to cut for tempo reasons, and the scrylands are just too good for setting up Risen Reef triggers and the like. even if its for stuff like gainlands and Gates. 2CCC needs 18 green sources and my deck runs 16, not counting the Leafkin Druids - if you count mana creatures as half-sources, it should be fine. plus druids can fix for GG pretty easily. plus sometimes it gets Neoformed for, although not often (unless I'm casting another Omnath anyway or something).
also Risen Reef seems pretty fully taken advantage of since you get a trigger for each Elemental and it seems that all of my creatures arechecks notesElementals. in FotD decks it sometimes cycles and eats a Shock, I'm more afraid of Circuitous Route unless they resolve two Reefs or something.
4 Druids/3 Trailblazer is working slightly better, especially since Trailblazers are more of a lategame boost/Awakener target (with a counter on it from Overgrowth/Omnath). [edit] doing math over manabases after checking the above article again, not sure if I wanna cut a dual for a basic. UR for G might be pushing it, but UG for R might be better. gonna cut a Temple of Mystery for Mountain for nowIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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if you're looking for more 'what can I do to get better at the game' type advice, since you mentioned 'happening to encounter' things to get better, I'd say just read up on some articles about general game advice and consume some MtG-related content in your off-time (Twitch streamers, podcasts, etc.) if you canIn post 7809, Psyche wrote:having no trouble meeting people beyond the sense that they prefer to play w people who already know enough of the game for play to feel fun to play with
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I've been a fan of Reid Duke for a while, and a quick google brought up this giant list of articles from a few years back. There's the classic Who's The Beatdown and the decade-later update. Frank Karsten's mana article is also great when you start tinkering with your first budget deck(s), the latest update is here.
for other MtG content, I can vouch for Limited Resources. Here's a buttload of episodes. Mostly based off draft and sealed, a lot of advice obviously carries over into general play. I highly, highly recommend the podcasts explainingRottyandQuadrant Theoryeven if you don't plan on playing Draft or Sealed. TheCABSepisode is great specifically for Limited as well, and you can generally poke around from there. for more general content to absorb, I used to watch a lot of pro players (Reid Duke, LSV, Marshall Sutcliffe) draft Cubes and whatnot, and that helped me learn a lot over time even though formats like Cube can be a lot to take in when you're still learning a bit. and I'll always vouch for LoadingReadyRun - they just did a PRE-pre-release on Twitch for the next set coming out if you wanted specifically to look at the new cards for the new set. definitely recommend going to the prerelease coming up regardless.
depending on your LGS, I suggest netdecking a solid budget Standard deck in about a month from now once the new metagame forms post-set rotation, assuming your LGS has decent turnout, and then go from there. otherwise research budget options for the applicable format (Modern, Commander, Pauper, etc.). especially if they have a decent Standard crowd, you could draft in the meantime to build your collection. either way, once you win prizes, I suggest taking your rewards in store credit and buying singles instead of taking prize packs, if possible, and then everyone else said the other important stuff.
definitely save all your gold in Arena to draft the new set - two weeks after it comes out on Arena I think? you can also just straight up buy Eldraine packs to rush wildcards if you'd rather use Arena to practice Constructed, but even though I prefer Constructed, Limited really does teach you a ton about the gameIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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been jamming Grixis Fires and haven't had too many problems against FotD decks (although Game 1 is probably harder than post-sideboard), you just have to rush a Bolas/Lili ult game 1 - Circuitous Route is a preferred Thought Erasure target because you really don't have time to fuck around and can ignore Teferi/Krasis etc for the most part. postboard gets a lot better, but you're dead if you don't keep a hand with much interaction game 1 for sure, which is awkward when the deck wants to keep 4-land-hands and runs so many 5/6-drops.
Unmoored Ego is pretty decent if you can draw it before they drop a Field, but even if they do, with 3x Ritual of Soot, 3x Cry, and 2x Chandras in the 75 you can usually stall lategame til you ult a Lili or Bolas, since a sweeper lets you get off two planeswalker abilities even if a bunch come back next turn. Unmoored Ego is also great at hitting Agent post-sideboarding because it's particularly good against Fires decks, so it still does a decent job. Narsets help block off Hydroid Krasis/Growth Spiral/Teferi minus, Angrath's Rampage can choose sac an artifact to take out Golos, and I've even won off Bolas -> Elderspell targeting 2 PWs -> Bolas ult post-SB.
two spicy options I've considered are Role Reversal to steal FotD (meh. cute in the mirror though cuz Narset doesn't block Drawn from Dreams or other Narsets so you can trade your 1-loyalty ones for better things) or Revenge of Ravens (this one I'm seriously considering). not sure if making space for one in the 75 is better than adding a third Ashiok cuz honestly the mill plan is viable post-board if you keep the board clear and Narsets can lock down draw after threats are removed (Hydroid Krasis for 7 still dies to Murderous Rider and fastens the mill clock). each mills for 20 and you can usually keep them off pressuring it til it gets through each activation.
idk if it's a favored matchup or by how much, but I've rarely felt completely screwed when up against Field outside of nut draws game 1.
also Grixis Fires stumbles against RB aggro and gets dunked on by Simic Flash (which is a miserable matchup that I may have won once or twice) so there's that
my 75, two Unmoored Ego out of shot. also 1x Island needs to be a Castle Vantress or Fabled Passage #3. haven't decided which. probably Passage. I also fiddled with Cavalier of Gales as a fun-of again, because Brainstorm on a stick with those two lands is cute, but I don't think the deck needs it.
idk I think I can fiddle with like 5 slots here. Legion's End doesn't pull as much work as I want but it's good in many matchups, Aether Gust has been fine between other Fires decks/Gruul Aggro/etc, was running Mystical Dispute for Simic Flash but switching to Negate for now. counterspells are still great in these matchups but obviously they're awful post-Fires (but then again, so are sweepers in the mirror game 1, so idk).Last edited by InflatablePie on Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:23 am, edited 1 time in total.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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I also seem to have a great matchup against Jeskai Fires but Sarkhan can be annoying to deal with. also Teferi bouncing Fires. Fires mirrors are pretty fun regardless - my opponents on Arena always seem to concede in sideboarding tho. :(
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think after Field of the Dead ban (assuming) we're either gonna see an surge in Oko decks or aggressive decks (Adventures) so I'd hedge out of the lategame stuff as much and go for more early/midgame development, especially in Bo1
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because the deck runs Ugin's Ascendant, Simic Ascendancy, Karn's Bastion and Shambling Suit
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fair points on the Colossi and Rams. I'd swap the two Narsets for Realms then, and would probably still go with 2nds of Angel/Teferi over Bontu/Henge. Teferi also lets you cast Gates Ablaze on EOT; I kinda forget the +1 does stuff sometimes
maybe a third Teferi if you have them tbh but idk what I'd cut - aside from a 4th Colossus just because you have enough card draw and it recurs itself, I'd imagine resolving one maybe two can close out a game.
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-3 Boros Guildgate
-1 (-2) Breeding Pool
+1 Stomping Ground
+3 (+4) Gateway Plaza (common)
idk how often the extra one mana hurts when the deck's already slow but I feel like the mana fixing on Plaza is better than four Boros Gates and also I don't have the motivation to check this list against Frank Karsten's thing for mana (+1 Stomping Ground is a guess so you can for-sure turn 3 Ablaze against aggro a nonzero amount of times).
[pedit] Plaza technically makes T3feri 4 mana in a roundabout way
if we're getting singleton janky, does Angel and Plaza give you enough life to run a miser Command the Dreadhorde? or Agent of Treachery (with T3feri bounce). idk if they're good; might be too slow.
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oh I'll definitely give it a spin once I get another Fae or two on Arena, Planewide Celebration can also win with Bolas out of nowhere
I imagine it's better in Bo1, depends how much space you dedicate to a wishboard in Bo3 though.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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and there's the Field ban
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still tweaking Fires a bit, probably dropping my Bedeck//Bedazzle and Cry mainboard, then the sideboard needs work. Ego and Ashiok are less necessary, probably replacing with a Cry and Noxious Grasp, another Duress, then idk. could also use ~5 slots for a Wishboard and try two Fae of Wishes main. Angrath's Rampage gets slightly better main now too I suppose.
meanwhile til the ban goes through on Arena I'm pivoting to the other deck I was working on upgrading - Flash
as no Simic Flash player seems to jam the same 75, here's my take:
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is it the cat oven matchup
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oh whoops <_< I was thinking Grixis Fires and that it dodges Cry and I don't see the deck enough to really sideboard for it but it's a pain in the assIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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monastery swiftspear, skullcrack, bomat courier, eidolon of the great revel, soul-scar mage as real mono-red cardsIn post 7903, panthaleon wrote:You get censor, quench, disallow, dovin's veto, and sinister sabotage as real countermagic.
You get thoughtseize, collective brutality, and duress as real discard.
You get assassin's trophy, abrupt decay, fatal push, and murderous rider as real kill spells.
You get supreme verdict, settle the wreckage, and languish as some real sweepers.
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got to mythic with Simic Flash heck yeahIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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two players played Temur Reclamation in the recent fandom legends if you wanted ideas of how to upgrade/brewIn post 7905, Micc wrote:Opened Arena for the first time in many months over the weekend. Been making my way up the ladder with temur reclamation.
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this one uses Irencrag Pyromancer and seems dope tbh
this one uses Adventure creatures and Escape to the Wilds
very tempted to netdeck that Pyromancer list on Thursday after the FotD 4x wildcard refund cuz all I'd need to craft are 3x Expansion/Explosion and 2x Fabled Passage (idk how but I've pulled 4 Pyromancers) so that's really not a huge waste of wildcards tbh
or if I pull an Oko or Questing Beast I can craft Simic Food but that seems boring
[edit] I also have 4x Escape to the Wilds. huh. no Bonecrusher Giants though. still...If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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said screw it and joined a game with a tweaked Pyromancer list to try it out: 2x Temple of Mystery over 2x Passage and 2x Escape to the Wild over the 4th Exp/Exp (will craft on Thursday) and the Once and Future
also went -1 Mystical Dispute, -2 Aether Gust, +3 Shock. sideboard is -3 Lovestruck Beast (I have them but what matchup is that for?), +2 Dispute (4 in the 75), +1 Aether Gust
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just play Karn it turns off Marvel
while you're playing artifacts though, how about some copies of Marvel. and t3feri to help and bounce Rogue Refiners. and while we're casting spells for free, let's talk about our friend Golos...
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delays t2 Oko on the play and counters Fires if you have protection for it... with God's Willing in the format, I'd keep an eye on it if Theros brings back any sort of Heroic deck by chance
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whoops fixed
with 6 Elementals, Omnath usually grows itself. could make some cuts for more. ten targets for Guildmage Forum - maybe cut the Merfolk Skydiver and/or Stonecoil Serpent? also could throw in a Neoform potentially. may make room for Biogenic Ooze cuz that seems like it could get out of control.
had a bunch of stuff for a wishboard for Vivien til I realized it's not explicitly allowed in Commander formats. she's still solid with the counters and fight abilities given the theme.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Theros: Beyond Death (major) spoilers
I actually gasped when I saw the basics for this set. if there's any of this set that I buy in paper it's these beauties:
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also WotC announced 5 new Commander precons with the new set Ikoria (tied to the plane a la Eldraine/Brawl precons), two more in Zendikar Rising, and a draftable Commander set called "Commander Legends"
tangentially related because I mentioned Brawl, BW Sorin is really fun. Charming Prince drives the lifegain bus to valuetown (Angel of Vitality, Twinblade Paladin, Ajani's Pridemate/Bloodthirsty Aerialist), with minor stops throughout Spiritville (Afterlife triggers, Teysa, Ethereal Absolution) and Angelburg (Bishop of Wings, Seraph of the Scales, Divine Visitation). then just add all the good removal and sweepers and go from there.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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artisan event on Arena is pretty fun, was brewing around with a few different things until I settled on this
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it'd be more fun in Bo3 with sideboarding imo
fiddling with that list, thinking you can also run -1 Spectral Sailor, -1 God's Willing // +1 Unsummon, +1 Elite Guardmage; Sailor only really gives you game against control whereas another Guardmage is more flexible (Cloudkin's really great on 3 in lieu of Eagles or else I'd run 2 Seer/4 Guardmage) and a single Unsummon is close enough to God's Willing with upside of bouncing random tokens/your own Seers/Guardmages(/Miscreants??). Healer's Hawk is also fine, could run some amount in the main by going to 2-3 Loyal Pegasus, but the deck overall just wants to race to a big Rally the Wings swing as the main game plan so I'd rather run other 1-drops. seeing Dovin pop up too which I'm not sure is worth it but could be interestingIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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speaking of Pioneer bans, also Veil of Summer
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Temur Reclamation wasn't quite ticking the right boxes for me (fun though! Escape From the Wilds is actually a decent one/two-of after all btw) and DN mentioning Dance was getting me in a combo deck mood
then I found this:
Spoiler: GB Clover Knights
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given that Incubation isn't only Innkeepers/Adventures/etc numbers 5&6, it's also effectively OuaT 5&6, you're not wrongIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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it does have a second card attached too, but don't think it's worth splashing blue for because the card gets sided out pretty often
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arena event giving everything Cascade coming up soon
so I'm just running Temur Elementals
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yeah OuaT seems busted in this event
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spoilers: RW Knights (feat. Tajic/Aurelia/Venerated Loxodon/Embercleave) performed way better than either
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and just lost to him in Diamond 1In post 7812, InflatablePie wrote:I've been a fan of Reid Duke for a while
my Gruul Adventures list (can post later, still working out the sideboard) versus his Golgari Clover deck. lost 1:2, kept a slow hand game 2 and turns out doubled Beanstalk Giant is brutal
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been jamming Temur Clover for a little while now
went up against Seth Manfield and his UG Flash deck from Mythic Champs
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thanks!! I was like "huh this person is rank 33 I wonder if they have an mtggoldfish account or anything"
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"... oh. and he's streaming.
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well I'm glad I got those Clover/Innkeeper styles today"
simic flash is such a good matchup tho so it was fine. his sideboard was correct for game 3, idk what he was running Kenrith's Transformation for. I'm running a full wishboard, some lists run extra Disputes/Negates/Return to Nature
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Also I just beat crokeyz on RB Aggro with Clover on stream but apparently the vods are only available to subs so you can't see me go t2 Clover into his Angrath's Rampage two games in a row (and holding it til turn 4 game three - and he Rampages the Fae I played t2 instead), so settle for a screenshot
am I a skilled MTG player yet
[edit] also I thought I was gonna lose game 2 cuz math is hard and I'm still having coffee (why you gotta pin me against pros first thing, Arena?) but I Wished for a Flame Sweep when he had 2x Midnight Reaper and 3 other creatures and was at 10 life and that was so satisfying
[edit2] I put a 4 instead of For in my tag, again; coffee
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also I never posted my list but my untapped.gg is here
fiddling with some changes today (notably 3ish sideboard changes, going down to 3 Innkeeper, and adding Nissas as haymakers) but it's a hybrid between the Innkeeper version I first saw on r/spikes and the version on mtggoldfish/brought to Mythic ChampsIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Spoiler: Historic Artisan
haven't seen anyone else running Vampires and this deck is stupid tbh, turns out having two lords and token generators in a format with significantly less removal is great, who knew. also Adanto Vanguard being a pain + Forerunner/Zealot giving you good game against any control decks. basically just set up a board, some lords, then Cruel Celebrant/Vindictive Vamp for protection and the final damage push.
could maybe cut 1-2 token gen card(s)/1 4-drop lord/1 Dusk Legion Zealot/1 Dire Moon for flex slots. deck is pretty tight on mana and might want a 23rd land. the Ascend flying guy could be decent but deaththouch+lifelink on the black one-drop is too good especially since that's our only removal aside from two Cast Down. Inspiring Cleric and Pitiless Pontiff didn't do enough IMO (the former would be great SB in Bo3 for this format). maybe make some number of cuts for 2-3 Bloodthirsty Aerialist as a flier that'll usually be at least a 3/4.
anyway feel free to steal and tinker with if anyone's playin the event, lmk how it does
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mono-B is comin' back y'all
4x Yarok's Fenlurker
4x Ayara
4x Murderous Rider
4x Dread Presence
4x Deathless Knight
4x Gary
~12 more cards with some number of Cavalier of Night and Castle Lochtwain seems like a stock start before we get more Theros spoilers. Oathsworn Knight maybe for pips but idk. Probably some Rankles? Lilianas? Midnight Reapers?
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well I pulled an Erebos and two Nightmare Shepard from the 2x Sealed and rewards I got to do, so let's do this
Spoiler: MonoB Devotion
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finally able to mostly craft something Esper
Spoiler: Esper Doom
should also revisit Grixis once I get more of the scrylands, Ashiok is dope.
also ran into two interesting decks the last few days. one was mono-U with Corridor Monitor and Kiora to untap Nyx Lotus, then stuff like Arcanist Owl, Thassa, Agent of Treachery... was neat and I got bodied on mono-B
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sealed was super fun from what I got to play of it, excited to draft it on Arena once it's up for non-Gems
new format as a whole has felt super sweet so far. Esper Stax is fun but I got dunked on from Plat 1 to low 4 so moving on from ranked play on that for a bit. still kinda want a third Oath of Kaya but did pull a Treacherous Blessing and really like the sideboard choices:
Spoiler: stax
mono-B though has been performing much better and I've made some changes:
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after testing stax, Devotion, Simic Ramp (sans Thassa), Gruul, and Temur Clover (which was fine! testing with 2x Purphoros' Intervention in the flex slots and it was great), it looks like we're back to Esper because I discovered I had four copies of Hero of Precinct One just hangin out
also because with 5 basics/9 non-golds in the 75, it's a very pretty deck
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think the jankiest deck I built was this pile in SOM -> AVR standard (aka when I started)
Primal Surge flips the whole deck and you stack draw card triggers in some order. rune-scarred demon to grab Surge, Lab Maniac's the win condition protected by Asceticism and Avacyn
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dumped some WCs into Historic to grind out gold for draft and went with the classic Izzet Blitz.
and people keep just... not blocking my Kiln Fiends? surprisingly it hasn't gotten old yet.
every time I can hear, "sure I'll take one or two. why block? I mean, what if they have a combat trick?"
I also crafted monoR Storm which is a fantastic pile of nonsense that sometimes wins a game
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if I was on a budget I'd probably jam Silverquill Aggro tbh
if you have a chunk of Uncommon wildcards or a few dece pulls so far
off the top of my head I'd goldfish something like this and see how it feels:
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4x Clever Luminancer - 0/1 Magecraft +2/+2
4x Eyetwitch - Flying 1/1 Learn-on-Death
4x Thunderous Orator - copies most keywords
4x Killian, Ink Duelist - Lifelink Menace 2/2
4x Shadewing Laureate - Flying 2/3 cares about fliers
2x Elite Spellbinder (R) - Flying 3/1, hand disruption
Leonin Lightscribe is dece at Rare (2/2, Magecraft give ur creatures +1/+1) but I think Thunderous Orator is fine given all the keywords.
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2x Professor's Warning - indestructible at instant speed
2x Vanishing Verse (R) - removal for non-gold-cards
4x Humiliate - turn 2 hand disruption + put a counter on your one-drop
2x Study Break - take out pesky blockers
3x Umbral Juke - removal for slower decks or a 2/1 Flying that still triggers Magecraft.
3x Silverquill Command (R) [if you pick the target creature option, Killian makes this WB instead of 2WB]
could also run Lash of Malice as a Shock or way to push more damage w Luminancer/Shadewing Laureate/most other creatures after 1 Counter.
I prefer Study Break for better game against midrange decks and easier Learn triggers (you have Menace/Flying on most things sans Luminancer tho)
and Professor's Warning to protect your creatures seems better than Lash to remove theirs
but there's also other options:
you could also run Mage Hunters Onslaught for BB Sorcery Removal w Killian out
Closing Statement at Uncommon (1WB with Killian or during End Step, plus a counter!)
or Baleful Mastery at Rare (1B Removal but opponent draws a card... or 1B Removal w Killian Out... at Instant, too)
there's 2-3 flex slots on the spells. feel free to fiddle.
Land (22) - as many rarelands as you wanna craft, maybe a Campus or an Access Tunnel. (but low curve means tapland/colorless land is less good)
Lesson Plan (7) [Eyetwitch death trigger, Study Break]:
Inkling Summoning (bonus flier)
Reduce to Memory, Necrotic Fumes (removal w downsides?)
2x Expanded Anatomy (this costs 1 w Killian out)
2x Introduction to Prophecy (for when games go long)
Pest Summoning is fine and Into to Annihilation is a bit pricey but also fine. think seconds of Anatomy/Prophecy are probably better than 2x Inkling Summoning?
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but yeah something close to like, 54 of this 60 is what I'd run
just remember it's 50 gold for 3 Uncommons going 3Win/2Loss, 200 Gold for 3 Uncommons at 2W/2L, 100 Gold Profit at 4W/0-1L
before you get too into tossing Rare wildcards in case there's some broken deck no one thought of because Block Constructed
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if it's Bo3 not Bo1 then add 2 Fracture (removes artifacts/enchantments) just in case
the Lashes if you don't run em maindeck (like, 2-3)
then 3-4 cards to fill the sideboard
Go Blank can work; Mind Rot is fine in Block plus GY exile upside
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welp time for the occasional set that ropes me back into Magic
I feel like RB, GB, and UR all seem strong, but for limited it really depends on the commons.
lots of pretty solid multicolor uncommons though; if anyone else has been wanting to make a Peasant cube for years like me, here's some decent power coming IMO. Sacred Fire, Hungry for More, Fleshtaker, Faithful Looting, Arcane Infusion, and Join the Dance, among others.
Bladestitched Skaab and Vampire Socialite are also pretty neat for Tribal synergies
we have DelverandThermo-Alchemist in Standard coming so definitely looking at brewing something janky/budget there
Spoiler: there's a new UG Commander that has some neat combos
and then we also have our usual Innistrad creepy art blue cards like Grafted Identity or Curse of Surveillance
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wait, bluegreendelver???
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might try something more like:
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