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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:53 pm

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In post 1074, Aristophanes wrote:Okay so my actual problem with "Deep Wolf" as a title is that is is a broad mafia term and it could be applied tk so many people in so many games. He did a great job, yes. He was not caught, yes. But is he the pinnacle of deepwolf play on MS? No.

Its like titling someone "obvtown". That would be a bad title. Literally the same logic applies.

I'm not saying we shouldn't title him, just not this.
dannflor has been in more games than just this
him being a deepwolf is somewhat of a meme at this point, i don't think alisae v pine was even the largest influence on this
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:33 am

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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:58 am

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In post 1075, Enter wrote:
In post 1074, Aristophanes wrote:Okay so my actual problem with "Deep Wolf" as a title is that is is a broad mafia term and it could be applied tk so many people in so many games. He did a great job, yes. He was not caught, yes. But is he the pinnacle of deepwolf play on MS? No.

Its like titling someone "obvtown". That would be a bad title. Literally the same logic applies.

I'm not saying we shouldn't title him, just not this.
dannflor has been in more games than just this
him being a deepwolf is somewhat of a meme at this point, i don't think alisae v pine was even the largest influence on this
Yeah, sure. But that doesn’t address any of ari’s points. It’s a meme title that’s not really special enough for what DANNFLOR (WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME) is. On an unrelated note, my phone now autocorrects DANNFLOR to be in all caps.
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:58 am

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In post 1074, Aristophanes wrote:Okay so my actual problem with "Deep Wolf" as a title is that is is a broad mafia term and it could be applied tk so many people in so many games. He did a great job, yes. He was not caught, yes. But is he the pinnacle of deepwolf play on MS? No.

Its like titling someone "obvtown". That would be a bad title. Literally the same logic applies.

I'm not saying we shouldn't title him, just not this.
*cough* "obvtown" is basically what these people titled creature *cough*
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:30 am

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RE:Dannflor title:

I like the avenue of discussion, but I want to air out the idea some more, get more feedback on honing in on the right title. It doesn't need to be perfect (perfection is the enemy of good, and all that), but I would still like time to refine what feels right.
In post 1057, Firebringer wrote:
nom dannflor for "dirty dan"

> deep wolf reference
> for doing Jingle dirty in Pine v Alisae
Of the ideas proposed, this is the one which most resonates with me, but I would like some more feedback before I pass it.

I'll say that I won't pass "Deepwolf", if the argument against dirty Dan is, "but I prefer deepwolf over it tho". The reason why is that I agree with Aristophanes.

Deepwolf is too generic, and doesn't encapsulate the meme effectively. It doesn't convey the story in of itself, and is a title not specific to Dannflor.

A variant title similar to Deepwolf based off the idea of Deepwolf? Sure, fine! Like pipsofctown pointed out, we titled Creature off of a variant of him being Obvtown. So a variant title off of Deepwolf is fine, (The) Deepwolf itself wouldn't be.
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:34 am

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I think the dirty dan title is good imo
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:08 am

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I’m not a fan. If anything, it conflicts with my image of Dann as a clean, tidy player, not prone to messy mistakes.
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:15 am

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In post 1080, TemporalLich wrote:I think the dirty dan title is good imo
I also think so; for me, it invokes Dirty Dancing, when Dann's main nickname as far as I am aware is Danceflor (or something similar to that at least), while also conveying the basic idea behind the meme of Dann = Deepwolf.

But like I said, while it's the title of the suggestions I most prefer, I want more feedback on the idea.
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:16 am

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Dirty Dancefloor
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:22 am

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Dirty Dann is 0/10
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:37 am

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Can we ban seals from this thread?
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:40 am

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Titles containing the person's username or a variation of it are almost always bad
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:40 am

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Postie!
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:57 am

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I agree that dirty damn is bad for reasons mentioned and others

I disagree that my response to ari doesn't address any of ari's points
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:00 am

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I still think Postie! is a good title for Postie despite the thingy
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:22 am

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In post 1088, Enter wrote:I agree that dirty damn is bad for reasons mentioned and others

I disagree that my response to ari doesn't address any of ari's points
Well, I disagree with your disagreement. :P

By which, I mean, I agree with Jingle. Deepwolf is a meme title which isn't really special enough for what Dannflor is.

And because I am the title fairy, that puts extra weight behind my point. :P

I won't pass Deepwolf, The Deepwolf, Deepscum, or The Deepscum for Dannflor. Trying to convince me to is a waste of time which should be better spent coming up with a title I WOULD pass.

If you don't think that Dirty Dan is a good title, but you do want to title Dann off of the deepwolf idea, feel free to suggest something!

With the amount of valid points against the title, as is right now, I am leaning towards not passing dirty Dan (but could easily be swayed back, so if you really want that, present your case!), so I am incredibly open to ideas here.

Like I said, I want there to be more talks about the title idea.
Of the suggested ideas thus far, dirty Dan has been the one I've thought was the best, but given the reasons why not to give that title, I probably won't give it.

So if the best idea thus far is one which I won't pass, we now need something even better which I WOULD. It doesn't need to be perfect, but it does need to be better than what we've had suggested thus far.
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:28 am

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In post 1090, mastina wrote:
In post 1088, Enter wrote:I agree that dirty damn is bad for reasons mentioned and others

I disagree that my response to ari doesn't address any of ari's points
Well, I disagree with your disagreement. :P

By which, I mean, I agree with Jingle. Deepwolf is a meme title which isn't really special enough for what Dannflor is.

And because I am the title fairy, that puts extra weight behind my point. :P

I won't pass Deepwolf, The Deepwolf, Deepscum, or The Deepscum for Dannflor. Trying to convince me to is a waste of time which should be better spent coming up with a title I WOULD pass.

If you don't think that Dirty Dan is a good title, but you do want to title Dann off of the deepwolf idea, feel free to suggest something!

With the amount of valid points against the title, as is right now, I am leaning towards not passing dirty Dan (but could easily be swayed back, so if you really want that, present your case!), so I am incredibly open to ideas here.

Like I said, I want there to be more talks about the title idea.
Of the suggested ideas thus far, dirty Dan has been the one I've thought was the best, but given the reasons why not to give that title, I probably won't give it.

So if the best idea thus far is one which I won't pass, we now need something even better which I WOULD. It doesn't need to be perfect, but it does need to be better than what we've had suggested thus far.
To be clear, I'm not supporting the deepwolf title. I'm simply opposing a particular set of reasons Ari has proposed as a counter to the argument that "deep wolf" is a good title for damn floor. I personally don't like either title, and while the title I proposed is --ahem-- far from optimal, the method I employed to reach such a conclusion as that is one I am a rather large proponent of, at least a size greater than that of either of the other two titles produced.
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:35 am

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i still think still waters or still waters run deep alludes to the deepwolf idea while also proverbially alluding to exactly what pine said regarding dann's image
In post 1081, Pine wrote:I’m not a fan. If anything, it conflicts with my image of Dann as a clean, tidy player, not prone to messy mistakes.
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:48 am

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I won't support still waters makes me think of a quiet, secretive person, and that doesn't fit my image of dann.
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:49 am

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I'm not gonna oppose it either, though.

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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:17 am

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In post 1084, RadiantCowbells wrote:Dirty Dann is 0/10
Oh be fair. It’s at least 2/10
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:19 am

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don't think i associate still waters with being secretive; more being calm/collected. i think that resonates with dann. he's not a reserved or secretive person, but he's got that actor energy you know? he rarely misses a beat, and while he is pretty open and v fun, it's pretty rare that he's ruffled.

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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:33 am

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In post 1095, Pine wrote:
In post 1084, RadiantCowbells wrote:Dirty Dann is 0/10
Oh be fair. It’s at least 2/10
Agreed. The image of Dann as a cast member of Footloose is worth at least one star, as is the alliteration.

Wolf in Wolf's Clothing? As a reference to the fact that somehow every game he's called out as the deepwolf and then still ends up winning the game as a deepwolf.
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:16 pm

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You people have such a strong tendency to look a good title in the face and reject it for silly reasons. You want them to be this thing gypsy encompasses a player in every aspect when historically titles were not like that and very few players actually have such a unique title that captures everything about them. You fool heartedly chase perfection.
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:22 pm

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In post 1098, Oversoul wrote:You people have such a strong tendency to look a good title in the face and reject it for silly reasons. You want them to be this thing gypsy encompasses a player in every aspect when historically titles were not like that and very few players actually have such a unique title that captures everything about them. You fool heartedly chase perfection.

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Deepwolf is a fine title for dann
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