Pikmin Mafia - Game over

[Kison]

The first time I've ever played with a bomb was in the MafiaScum chat, and I was told I was a townie, yet when mafia killed me, they died along as well. So I believed there was a vig or some kind of secondary killing group. At the end of the game, I was told I was a bomb who wasn't told he was the bomb.

I can't recall who moderated it, or the participants (maybe Ether?). But that was my first experience as a bomb.

Since then I haven't played with a bomb.

Why are you lying?

[Claus]

The cool thing about scum chat and real life metas is that there is no way at all to check them.

I'm already wary of meta self-justifications, scumchat-based meta justifications are even worse.

[armlx]

Basing assumptions about setups and roles on ScumChat is pretty much a bad thing. I'm willing to consider behavioral metas from it, but game design on there is a far cry from game design in a forum.

[mikeburnfire]

Vote Count!
With 12 alive, it will take 7 to lynch.

4 JamesThePhox (armlx, Claus, dcorbe, Greasy Spot)
1 Greasy Spot (skitzer)
1 The Jester (Gorrad)
Not Voting: GhostWriter, JamesthePhox, Kison, Nightson, The Jester, Xdaamno

I'm back, 'Min!

[The Jester]

So, we're not talking, what are we waiting for?

[Kison]

Vote : JamesThePhox

After his last response contradicting what he said earlier, I no longer feel he's being truthful about this.

[Claus]

So, we're not talking, what are we waiting for?

For you to vote JtP

[armlx]

L-2, anything else to claim JtP?

[The Jester]

Vote: JtP

There, L-1. If he wants to add more, he can.

[JamesThePhox]

"Since then I haven't played bomb... online" I think that should say.

But uh, if the enemy wants to hammer me, go for it.

[Claus]

So, JtP, if you are so sure you are a bomb, if I unvote you, would you vote yourself so that I can hammer?

Afterall, you claim to find me scummy...

[JamesThePhox]

Also final last words: Look at Claus' posts from prior days, specifically his reasoning to lynch me and Kison ALONG with his apathy towards windkirby when he was being lynched (and when it was clear that he was mafia).

I would like to point out that even in towards the end of that Day, Claus' main focus was on me, at one point needing armlx's approval before voting windkirby. Kison appears townie to me, since he was willing to hear what I had to say before lynching me, whereas Claus just jumped on the wagon (along with armlx, mind you).

I wouldn't call it armlx and Claus buddying up, because armlx seems townie mainly because of his interaction between windkirby Day 3. But what I saw between windkirby and Kison is exactly what I see between Claus armlx.

Vote: Claus

[Claus]

Okay. You voted me. If you think you are a bomb, you would let me hammer you and kill a scum. So, how about that?

[JamesThePhox]

Uh. I'm not saying I'm a supersaint. (I've mentioned this before.)

I'm saying that White Pikmin may have the ability to kill an enemy, if killed at night by consumption. Nothing to do with Lynching during the day.

This role is usually designed

to kill anyone who night kills it

, and

also whoever casts a final lynch vote.

I hope that makes it easier to understand. Since I don't think a death for final casting a lynching vote would fit the White Pikmin flavor. (White Pikmin killing other Pikmin? Doesn't make sense).

So anyone is free to hammer without fearing a death (based on my assumptions). But uh, my final wish is for town to get their asses in gear and to look up the things I have said, because I think they are VERY RELEVANT.

[Gorrad]

I continue to say that, based on the claims if NOTHING else, this lynch is incredibly stupid.

[Xdaamno]

Sorry, sorry, chronic lurking indeed. This game is on my to-do list.

...

No, really, it is.

[Xdaamno]

The cool thing about scum chat and real life metas is that there is no way at all to check them.

I'm already wary of meta self-justifications, scumchat-based meta justifications are even worse.

After reading, I'm tempted to hammer.

I continue to say that, based on the claims if NOTHING else, this lynch is incredibly stupid.

Why so? Are you implicating Nightson instead?

[JamesThePhox]

No, he's saying, that based on the role claims, having 2 white pikmin seems more reasonable than having 6 red pikmin (2 dead + 4 claimed).

[armlx]

No, he's saying, that based on the role claims, having 2 white pikmin seems more reasonable than having 6 red pikmin (2 dead + 4 claimed).

Yes, but based on your actions we don't think you are a white Pikmin....

[Gorrad]

This is a completely idiotic wagon, and you're jumping on him for speculating about a role in a game that we already know has some freaky mechanics. Now find a claimed red and vote them! I know you Armlx, you're not an idiot. Stop acting like one.

[armlx]

a game that we already know has some freaky mechanics.

It does? Seems pretty clean cut to me.

[The Jester]

He speculated his role could be things he wasn't told. How is this an okay thing?

The mechanics have been straightforward. Pikmin are stupid, do stupid things on their own. So taking less to lynch, voting ourselves. That's wacky, but it was told to us. JtP is saying it like it isn't his role, as stated before.

[JamesThePhox]

In any case, I'm going to ask the mod afterwards to see if I was right or not. Because if I was, I will laugh in all your faces.

[Kison]

JamesThePhox, how certain are you that you have a bomb-like ability? Give me a %.

[Kison]

Also, rank the players from scummiest to least summy. Brief commentary on each would be great.

Do you think the claimed Red Pikmin is a good place to look for scum?

Do you think armlx is Town? What do you think of his Windkirby push yesterday?

What do you think of Greasy Spot?