Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)


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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:34 am

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Xayah (3):
AaronFrost, rb, Sirfetchd
Billy Pilgrim (3):
Xayah, Luca Blight, skitter30
Kerset (2):
Flubbernugget, nomnomnom
AaronFrost (1):
Kerset
rb (1):
PMysterious
PMysterious (1):
Wooper

Not Voting (3):
Sujimichi, Billy Pilgrim, Something_Smart

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.


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(expired on 2019-11-03 00:30:00)
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:46 am

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Players are subject to prods if they go 72 hours without posting.

In post 1274, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Hey y'all, sorry about my inactivity this whole game and particularly the past couple of days. My moods been off and it's been difficult to focus on playing. I dont want to replace out so I'm gonna keep trying. I will get a catchup post within 24 hours.
Do not discuss replacing out. This is against the rules.
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:57 am

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VOTE: Billy
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:40 pm

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I have to say that 72 hours per prod seems too high, especially when prod dodges are seemingly allowed.

I’m a little confused as to why Frost is so against the Billy lynch. I think even independent of meta he looks very suspect due to the way he is approaching the game, and the fact this is far from his usual town play style supports this. Do you have any reason to think Billy is Town?
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:00 pm

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I am really against letting Xayah get away with the brute force defence for the exact reason that we are likely to be in this sort of position. The wagon composition also feels like it was accurate, hence the increased difficulty of pushing it through.

Billy's wagon composition on the other hand feels very convenient making it seem like the preferred misslynch of the day. That said, I will compromise on it if I have to. But I really would rather not.
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:03 pm

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Actually looking at the wagons, Xayah is at pseudo six votes (assuming Wooper/Luca/Billy can all move there) while Billy is on pseudo 5 (assuming I move there). Nah make it six I think I remember noms being pro xayah. So even wagons.

:/

Ok. Everyone NOT on Xayah or Billy get on either Xayah or Billy.
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:17 pm

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In post 1265, skitter30 wrote:Separated because the submit button disapears for me if the post becomes too long on mobile

Wooper - pm is being awful, i agree, but i dont think that's the best vote with the amount of time left. We ought to be consolidating

Luca is being obvtown

Sirfetched - why are you scumreading me, exactly?

Ok this has been a Jumble Of Thoughts (tm) and is roughly what i'm thinking now. I hope to be around tomorrow night before deadline
Your stream of consciousness is regularly inaccurate or at least I think it's inaccurate, and you have said extremely little with the highest post count which says to me that you are saying very little.
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:24 pm

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Sujimichi has been prodded for inactivity.
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:44 pm

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In post 1278, Luca Blight wrote:I have to say that 72 hours per prod seems too high, especially when prod dodges are seemingly allowed.

I’m a little confused as to why Frost is so against the Billy lynch. I think even independent of meta he looks very suspect due to the way he is approaching the game, and the fact this is far from his usual town play style supports this. Do you have any reason to think Billy is Town?
It's not so much that I think Billy is going to flip town but more that I think the case against him is weak and mostly meta-based. If I had to make a list of lynch candidates he'd probably be like fourth on the list. If someone were to make a strong case against him then I could be convinced but right now I'd prefer Xayah or Kerset over him.
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:45 pm

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Also I agree with 72 hours being too high for prod timers, especially when deadlines are 10 days. I think 48 is perfectly reasonable.
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:49 pm

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In post 1281, Sirfetchd wrote:
In post 1265, skitter30 wrote:Separated because the submit button disapears for me if the post becomes too long on mobile

Wooper - pm is being awful, i agree, but i dont think that's the best vote with the amount of time left. We ought to be consolidating

Luca is being obvtown

Sirfetched - why are you scumreading me, exactly?

Ok this has been a Jumble Of Thoughts (tm) and is roughly what i'm thinking now. I hope to be around tomorrow night before deadline
Your stream of consciousness is regularly inaccurate or at least I think it's inaccurate, and you have said extremely little with the highest post count which says to me that you are saying very little.
I think skitter hyper posts like this as either alignment tbh.
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:49 pm

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Yes, and...? Does that make Sirfetchd's point invalid?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:51 pm

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No, but I wouldn't really use that as a reason to push scum!skitter either.
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:38 pm

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Are you saying you wouldnt push scum!skitter?

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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:38 pm

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i also agree with sirfetchd and would like to see us consolidate on either xayah or billy since we're 24 hours off
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:07 pm

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Yes, everyone who hasn’t voted either Xayah or Billy please do so. Let’s not leave this until the last minute.
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:08 pm

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il vote billy if it's that or no lynch
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:20 pm

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I dont like the fact that s_s came but he did not bother to vote at all. We are <24.

For me VOTE: billy
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:37 am

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VOTE: billy

going to bed, work tomorrow and won't be back until just before deadline
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:01 am

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I'm the type who votes at 15 minutes, not 24 hours. It's all the same in the end.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:04 am

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Lol, just realized this game's deadline falls at 1:30 am... but
which
1:30 am?
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:43 am

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I notice Suji’s been active onsite since his prod and yet hasn’t even bothered to check-in here.
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:53 am

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I’m starting to wonder if it’s a deliberate tactic to a) avoid being lynched and b) fly under the radar during the N1 actions, as people are going to be less likely to target someone they believe has flaked.

Whatever his alignment, it sucks.
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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:52 am

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In post 1294, Something_Smart wrote:I'm the type who votes at 15 minutes, not 24 hours. It's all the same in the end.
Thats selffish. At this point we need to see other people preferences to determine majority. With several people like you and lurkers, we would end up with nolynch.

Day will end according to countdown, I don't get your question.
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:43 am

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If the consolidation options are me or Xayah I'm picking Xayah. After my last post, I liked the reads list, but I think that both before and after the reads list, she is shading the people that's she's either saying she's ignoring (like rb) or that she's town reading (like fetched). I think this is giving her alot of room to flip back over if need be so she can show that consistent progression of reads like she mentioned earlier.

Again, sorry about my level of activity, and if I make it to tomorrow it will get better, but i think theres a good chance we're down to two scum tomorrow.

VOTE: Xayah

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