Micro 898 | Forest Fire | Over

[PenguinPower]

But uh, I'm not.

Spoiler:

[Dannflor]

VOTE: sheepsaysmeep

Can you answer this:

@eth0s, do you have a read on BS based off these first few pages? Or are you not finding anything AI based on these first few pages. If not, reads or vague gut feelings on anyone else?

Anything else to say about the last several pages besides a naked vote?

[PenguinPower]

If PP’s noise comment was in reference to me

It wasn't.

[PenguinPower]

As scum he tends to be mostly useless.

I like to think this only applies to Larges but...eh.

[PenguinPower]

Oh cool...I got the pagetop.

[Dannflor]

I currently feel like sheep's town read on me is more an attempt to appease me than a genuine town read buuuut that might be verging into conf-biasy thinking.

[PenguinPower]

I townread you, Dann.

[eth0s]

VOTE: sheepsaysmeep

(1) Can you answer this:

@eth0s, do you have a read on BS based off these first few pages? Or are you not finding anything AI based on these first few pages. If not, reads or vague gut feelings on anyone else?

Anything else to say about the last several pages besides a naked vote?

(1): From what I know of his meta this seems relatively par for the course townie. But it does seem like he's juicing the "I'm a scummy player" flavor of the account more than normal. I suppose it throws up some yellow flags. I do still think he genuinely believed his own logic on RC could have been received as "towny" regardless of his alignment.

(2): Not really. I sheep your reasoning and his comments since your vote don't make me feel any better about him. I will admit I don't feel very good right now and am more or less just here to ensure I don't get prodded. I'll probably come back with some deeper analysis before too long.

[Dannflor]

I townread you, Dann.

That's good, since I also think you're one of the townier slots right now.

I have some measure of a town read on Gamma and BS too. I got some slight town vibes from Banakai's entrance.

Otherwise I'm having trouble forming town reads and I'm attributing that to a lack of people trying to do anything. Like looking at the VC we have 5 people not voting which makes for a really stagnant game state. I suppose I should just be patient for the weekend to end and people to be more active. The lack of RVS votes is just odd.

pedit: okay eth0s, feel better

I also noticed BS has been leaning into his "scummy" persona in a way I find rather forced. But it's hard for me know whether that's really scum indicative for him given his lack of scum meta to pull from.

When you get back I'd like to know where you're at with your town reads

[Dannflor]

Oh, Pyrrha, can you expand on your sheep town read for me?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Oh, Pyrrha, can you expand on your sheep town read for me?

I have never seen sheep play like this as scum and I’ve played with him numerous times as both alignments. He also gets mislynched a lot.

As scum, he’s been super scummy (really off and fake) - re: MBOS (Mystery Box of Silver 1)
Death tunnelly - ND (No Deadlines)
Coasting - UtS - Under the Sea

But here, he’s really efforting in a very clearly townie way.

[PenguinPower]

Oof - alt using meta.

Need Pine to post so I can take him out of my pool. Need eth0s to do what he promised to do. Need Dann to be town and not a deepwolf (endgame matter). Need sheep to use real words.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

what are your thoughts on my v reads rn

Spoiler: My thoughts

bs is twtbw

dann's content is well thought out and some of his content is honestly just.. like too good to be fake

Um...have you met Dann?

I have a theory that might make sheep’s twtbaw theory actually make sense. On the chance that I’m right, BS might not be the best lynch today.

Spoiler:

I’d rather not elaborate but it’s directly connected to the setup.

[PenguinPower]

Could you just tell me what twtbaw means?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Could you just tell me what twtbaw means?

Too wolfy to be a wolf

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Oof - alt using meta.

Need Pine to post so I can take him out of my pool. Need eth0s to do what he promised to do. Need Dann to be town and not a deepwolf (endgame matter). Need sheep to use real words.

I’ve only played one game on this account and no one on this playerlist was in it if I remember correctly, so I obviously can’t have meta reads based on that. You get a cookie.

[PenguinPower]

Could you just tell me what twtbaw means?

Too wolfy to be a wolf

I don't agree with this as an accurate read outside the Newbie queue (and even then, in limited circumstances).

[Pyrrha Nikos]

VOTE: Pine

Do something.

[Dannflor]

But here, he’s really efforting in a very clearly townie way.

Sort of a strange thing to say without elaboration given a stated reason for my scum read on him is that I thought he

wasn't

efforting in a clearly townie way.

What is he doing specifically that you see as townie? Was it his engagement with you or something else?

PEDIT: agree re: the twbtw argument

I find BS' play itself not that indicative,

especially

if he has a history of roleplaying his "blatant scum" persona

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Could you just tell me what twtbaw means?

Too wolfy to be a wolf

I don't agree with this as an accurate read outside the Newbie queue (and even then, in limited circumstances).

If this setup was mountainous, I’d be in favour of powerlynching him but it’s not and that’s what’s giving me pause.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Pine

Do something.

Do you think voting a slot that is already not doing something encourages them to do something?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

But here, he’s really efforting in a very clearly townie way.

Sort of a strange thing to say without elaboration given a stated reason for my scum read on him is that I thought he

wasn't

efforting in a clearly townie way.

What is he doing specifically that you see as townie? Was it his engagement with you or something else?

PEDIT: agree re: the twbtw argument

I find BS' play itself not that indicative,

especially

if he has a history of roleplaying his "blatant scum" persona

Why is it strange, because I disagree with you? I have meta on sheep and this looks like his towngame to me.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

VOTE: Pine

Do something.

Do you think voting a slot that is already not doing something encourages them to do something?

If he’s town this might light a fire under him to make himself more readable.

If he’s scum, that would also hopefully became more obvious.

Either way, I need him to be more readable - ergo beetlejuicing him

[Dannflor]

Pyrrha, if BS is the Firefighter than he would claim it at L-1 and we would lynch elsewhere. Same as every other slot in the game. Why does the existence of that PR give you hesitance in going after a slot that would otherwise be a "powerlynch?"

Why is it strange, because I disagree with you? I have meta on sheep and this looks like his towngame to me.

No, not because you disagree with me. Because you didn't address the fact that I made the exact opposite point. I understand you have meta on sheep. I have meta on sheep too, and this looks like his scumgame to me.

What exactly about his play

in this game

do you find to be townie efforting? Just quote a few specific posts or talk about something specific he did. Meta aside please.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Pyrrha, if BS is the Firefighter than he would claim it at L-1 and we would lynch elsewhere. Same as every other slot in the game. Why does the existence of that PR give you hesitance in going after a slot that would otherwise be a "powerlynch?"

Why is it strange, because I disagree with you? I have meta on sheep and this looks like his towngame to me.

No, not because you disagree with me. Because you didn't address the fact that I made the exact opposite point. I understand you have meta on sheep. I have meta on sheep too, and this looks like his scumgame to me.

What exactly about his play

in this game

do you find to be townie efforting? Just quote a few specific posts or talk about something specific he did. Meta aside please.

Okay, I see your point but he seems a lot more waffley and off in that game - coasty like UtS. If he starts making any suspicious pushes, I’ll re-evaluate.

Because I’ve seen tprs try to play scummy to avoid being NK’d but you do have a point. He should probably claim ff, if that is the case.