Mini Normal 2107 (Game Over)

[Saudade]

I am mason tho

[Saudade]

Hardclaiming big dik mason this game

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I will hammer whoever reaches L-1 without announcing it.

I do not like Day 1, because I've got literally nothing to work with.

VOTE: wake88

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Literally scum mentality

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Fucking hell how did you slip on your first post lmao

[Saudade]

What a legend

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I swear to god this is the first time i catch scum based on their first post

[Saudade]

And it feels amazing

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Sure thats a given

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But you have to admit that this just might be the worst opening post ever made

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Bro tries to openwolf into a quickhammer and get away with it lmao

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So bad that scum are probably going to be hesitant to say it perhaps?

I know lots of people dislike early days, and this seems like one of the more blatant ways to bring attention to it. I'm not eager to have a wagon lolhammered but I think usually Day1 ends up being a compromise lynch also. So it likely won't have a big impact even if it happens.

Wanna guess what other person I know said the exact same line he did and turned out to be scum?

[Saudade]

Why are you defending him before he defended himself anyway

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Im not advocating for a quick wagon into a hammer either

[Saudade]

Just sit in the corner and let me carry this game is already won

[Saudade]

So bad that scum are probably going to be hesitant to say it perhaps?

I know lots of people dislike early days, and this seems like one of the more blatant ways to bring attention to it. I'm not eager to have a wagon lolhammered but I think usually Day1 ends up being a compromise lynch also. So it likely won't have a big impact even if it happens.

Wanna guess what other person I know said the exact same line he did and turned out to be scum?

Well that's interesting. Enlighten me.

Well, myself.

[Saudade]

You said the exact same line?

More or less

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Ahh profi you'll be my shining light in this dark game

[Saudade]

This is going to be a long game.

We already have one scum why u say this

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VOTE: wimpy

This is agood vote

[Saudade]

Vork's 100% nonbiased and accurate readlist volume #1

{papa-mason, profi}
{wimpy}
{plank, elly}
{wake}

People who need to post more and I'm going to bug in a bit
{salad, Zote, Looker, almidia}

This is a good read list

[Saudade]

why do people think quick hammers are bad? Like why is wake getting shit for that statement?

Hmmmmmmmmm how many games have you played so far

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I like vorkuta the most this game so far

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I like profi too tbh

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Elements is alright'ish...

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Plus my mason buddy who i townread......

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I think we are going to lynch both scum back to back boys

[Saudade]

I'm gonna go back here
VOTE: wimpy

תmy vote is better than yours

[Saudade]

Just ignore wimpy you are not going anywhere with this

[Saudade]

Literally going in circles

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I - voted the wrong person

VOTE: Vorkuta

for the time being i disapprove of this vote heavily because vorkuta just so happens to be my good #1 townread

[Saudade]

Wanna guess what other person I know said the exact same line he did and turned out to be scum?

This is also why I am voting - I caught someone saying the exact same line.

Umm how many times has someone said the exact same line but turned out to be town vs scum?

@Saudade, answer this q as well please.

in my experience only I have said it and I rolled scum that game.
so one to zero

[Saudade]

in my experience only I have said it and I rolled scum that game.
so one to zero

But town does it also.

That makes the action null.

What else besides that do you have to scum read wake? You should have something better.

That's not my experience, no.

[Saudade]

to be honest I really dont want to talk to you Wimpy, the way you interacted made me feel very sorry for Vorkuta because he had to chew down everything to little pieces for you to understand and then you still didnt understand it.

[Saudade]

THE WAY YOU INTERACTED WITH VORKUTA*

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And no I'm not going to teach you how to play the game, that's what newbie games are for

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Other than this you seem like the best candidate to be a counter wagon to the scum im trying to lynch so please... stop defending him...

[Saudade]

That's not my experience, no.

That’s a very narrow minded way to play.

Plus I just provided examples so while that doesn’t tie into your personal experience, it’s Information you should consider if you are town and genuinely trying to find scum.

Never in my life did I read previous/other games while playing a current one and I'm not going to start

[Saudade]

Something tells me I have a higher winratio than you as both town and scum so please dont lecture me

[Saudade]

in my experience only I have said it and I rolled scum that game.
so one to zero

But town does it also.

That makes the action null.

What else besides that do you have to scum read wake? You should have something better.

Why should I have something better? have you read his posts?

[Saudade]

He continues in the same set of trend.

[Saudade]

Also!

[Saudade]

Lets not forget

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I am mason

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Suppose its null, he still havent expressed ANY intention to game solve, that alone is good enough for a viable wagon.

[Saudade]

And no I'm not going to teach you how to play the game, that's what newbie games are for

Tbh if you are actually town this game you need to learn how to play not me.

saving this for later

[Saudade]

Wimpy do you want to make a deal?

[Saudade]

Please do not make wagers regarding things outside the game, like sigs (as per rule 2)

[Saudade]

Chicken

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bawk bawk bawk

[Saudade]

Okay lets move on from Wimpy to Wake88


WAKE88 HELLO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WIMPY DEFENDING YOU LIKE THIS?
DO YOU THINK HES TOWN?
DO YOU THINK HES SCUM TRYING TO POCKET YOU?

DO YOU THINK AT ALL WAKE88??

[Saudade]

Antagonism will not help us.

I would ask for that to cease.

Answer the questions posed in your direction

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you can ignore, the last one, for sure.

[Saudade]

Alright this has been productive

[Saudade]

time to go to my mason meeting be right back!

[Saudade]

Okay, you guys stop it now and move on.
The last 10 pages of content are literally useless (well almost, its only use is for townreading wimpy but thats very narrow)

WHERE ARE THE OTHER PEOPLE

[Saudade]

I think zote is hilarious

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Also you are spending so much energy arguing with wimpy but it doesnt bring us an inch closer to our goal, so, again, vorkuta!!! Focus child

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Its not about who is right in this argument its about making sure we lynch scum d1 and then do it again tomorrow

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Oh my god stop

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Now is the time to talk to different people on the table

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No wimpy i wont talk to you, go talk to someone who isnt me vorkuta or profii

[Saudade]

Im not even pushing my vote lmao its literally just there and i want the gameplay to be more than just between us 4 people

[Saudade]

If the day ends now hypothethically i know ONLY what 4 people think
4!!!!!!!!

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Stop talking to me jesus christ

[Saudade]

Please be civil

[Saudade]

Please be civil

[Saudade]

If this is a troll account its brilliant and I salute you

[Saudade]

Wimpy has requested replacement

Town rep out

[Saudade]

Did we just bully wimpy into leaving?

He did it to himself tbh

[Saudade]

Anyways now that hes not exhausting us we can move this game forward

[Saudade]

Wake88 you gonna say anything this game or nah

[Saudade]

I have limited time since I'm on my work break. At end of page5 right now.

I'm inclined to think that Wimpy is probably town and there's scum somewhere in the pile-on that occurred on him.

It seems really odd to have such insistence that Wake is scum by multiple people, to then have some of this group switch focus to someone else. It feels as if the collective focus is not really to find scum, but to appear like they're trying to find scum.

It makes me think there's scum out of Elements/Vork/Saudade.

Bad post

[Saudade]

Eesh I just finished page7 and I have to go back to work.

The hubris in this game is already exhausting. Going to put my vote down and come back to the game after work.

The best read I have so far is actually that Alimidia is probably town. Wimpy is defending themselves a lot, but I find it hard to read much through their frustration yet.

VOTE: Vorkuta

Followed by an even worse vote

[Saudade]

Wimpy has requested replacement

Town rep out

Could you explain why you find his replace-out townie, cur?

If he was scum he'd be doing a good job because he inspired a 7 page festival of nonsense, you are not likely to rep out if you are doing a good job

[Saudade]

Yeah wakes posting followed by this string of useless posts... I dont think illl be changing my vote

[Saudade]

Yoink, I find it scummy that Saudade focuses on either wimpy or wake, just judging the other people on who they side with. Plank, why did you vote Vork?

Bro you made 4 posts I wish I could assess you but i cant

[Saudade]

reading UltimatePlank - seems more of a annoyed town than scum? I could be wrong though.

Looker: scummy, can't quite put my finger on why, prob gut and post #272 as well as the other posts being fluff

Sadalaman: I'm not happy with his contributions so far.

I just woke up and 10 pages appeared, Timezones, amirite?
I didn’t like the TvT clash between sausage and wimp, (yes I tr both of them). About vork, I can see why he would be scum but last time I’ve seen scum!Vork, he was too obvscum to be scum and won the game that way.

Yoink, I find it scummy that Saudade focuses on either wimpy or wake, just judging the other people on who they side with. Plank, why did you vote Vork?

Down to wagon on: Looker, Sadalaman, profii depending on his answers.

@Saudade - Can we get on one of those wagons? Idt Wake88 wagon is going to give us more information, regardless of the flip


Also, I looked through Wake88's games. He hasnt played a game in a long while and the last few he has played he didn't say that D1 shit.
So... still a null point.

Im lynching wake because hes scum not because otll give us information

[Saudade]

He tried to gambit and it will backfire on him

[Saudade]

This day gave me two solid townreads in vorkuta and wimpy and maybee profii.. im satisfied tbh

[Saudade]

My wagon is better than yours

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You guys arent going to believe who my mason partner is

[Saudade]

Your last quote is uninspiring

[Saudade]

Lets get some more votes on wake maybe we'll squeeze some content out of this baby

[Saudade]

who are your townreads saladman

[Saudade]

Scenes when i announce wake as my mason partner and you've all been baited

[Saudade]

Looker: scummy, can't quite put my finger on why, prob gut and post #272 as well as the other posts being fluff

Trash, also known as unsubstantiated garbage.

Right now I think Saudade is town. I don't much care for his minimalistic posting style, but he seems to want to progress the game along and get us away from the pointless discussion that has clogged the past few pages.

I don't see this. Can you point me to a post where he was progressing the game as opposed to spamming the thread? I'm trying to determine whether my distrust of him is based on alignment or personality.

Okay, you guys stop it now and move on.
The last 10 pages of content are literally useless (well almost, its only use is for townreading wimpy but thats very narrow)

WHERE ARE THE OTHER PEOPLE

Also you are spending so much energy arguing with wimpy but it doesnt bring us an inch closer to our goal, so, again, vorkuta!!! Focus child

Its not about who is right in this argument its about making sure we lynch scum d1 and then do it again tomorrow

Whether or not he's successful in progressing the game along remains to be seen, but the point is that there an attempt/desire to move the game past the shenanigans of the previous pages. I don't think these wretched scum would make these posts.

I reluctantly concede.
UNVOTE:
I just really wanted him to be scum so that we could lynch him and cut the page count moving forward in half. I'm sorry for my selfishness.

Precept Twenty-Three: Identify the Foes Weak Point. Every foe you encounter has a weak point, such as a crack in their shell

or being asleep

. You must constantly be alert and scrutinising your enemy to detect their weakness!

This made me smile and laugh out loud.

---

I haven't read Wake yet, but I will. I do remember enough to understand the irony of this situation, though.

This post... Rubs me the wrong way.. in multiple places at once..

[Saudade]

We should probably stop the quote quoting

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What the fuck

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I was about to rethink my read on you

[Saudade]

But then I saw your join date

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You will eat rope today wake88 if you are town might do your best now, d1, to find scum for us if it aint you

[Saudade]

Off you go then start the scumhunt

[Saudade]

The irony

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At least you didnt vote any of my townreads so thats not too bad

[Saudade]

Whats the timer until day end

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Yeah lets chill

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Cant wait for your input wake88

[Saudade]

Just try not to speedhammer the poor guy please

[Saudade]

Im giving you plenty of space and opportunity to make reads.
However Im not letting you read me as easily as you'd like.

[Saudade]

Im going to be busy this week i'm still reading but ill do some analysis with 3 days to go so we'll still have plenty of time

[Saudade]

Its okay that you pressure looker

[Saudade]

Let me remind you all that just because your points may be correct and make sense, that does not mean that the case you've built will yield scum at the end of it

[Saudade]

After rereading the game and focusing on Looker's posts,
well

guy posts like a robot

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I had UltimatePlank marked as scum in my mind but now I feel otherwise

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Wake's gameplay hasn't improved at all

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I like Zote's posting as well..
it seems like I'm piling up a lot of townreads...

You could dig out scum in wake88, looker and elements for roughly the same reasons more or less

[Saudade]

I don't know how to read alimdia at all

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Dont you dare hammer the day now

[Saudade]

Looker its your time to shine baby

[Saudade]

I think someone on that wagon should unvote

[Saudade]

No you dont

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If wake88 flips scum Looker is scum as well

[Saudade]

Lynch wake get two scum, enough of this horseshit

[Saudade]

If wake88 flips scum Looker is scum as well

pls explain btw

Cant you figure it out?

[Saudade]

The person who claimed hes hammering whoever gets to l1 first, then doesnt hammer him.
Its because its his scum buddy

[Saudade]

A lot of you are getting lost in wall of text arguments like this and get lost in word soup and start hitting on each other because you dont relate one to one, well duh you never will

[Saudade]

Get back to lynching wake

[Saudade]

Most of you have expressed decent intent to solve the game this should be easy

[Saudade]

The person who claimed hes hammering whoever gets to l1 first, then doesnt hammer him.
Its because its his scum buddy

bro he was on the wagon he can't hammer

Pretty sure he had le hammer at a point

[Saudade]

Anyways wake is scum here regardless of what ya'll be saying
Hes completely out of the game in a typical scum way to be

[Saudade]

Well for a typical weak scum player

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You're just tunneling on wake at this point

I think hes scum yeah,but i was in favor of pursuing other things and you ended up with looker
Who is a far worse candidate for scum than wake

[Saudade]

Disregard my point if wake is scum so is Looker

[Saudade]

Do not let this kid hammer lmao

[Saudade]

You literally only post if you're being mentioned
You're blatant weak and reactive scum with zero active actions done this game

[Saudade]

VOTE: reveals his minigun and shoots wake88 in the face

[Saudade]

Disregard my point if wake is scum so is Looker

What about other way around?

Hang on 1 second
You think wake is scum like 90% right?
So that means looker is also 90% scum? (90%*100%)
By your logic voting out looker is the same as wake for you

Please dont be stupid

[Saudade]

Like.. i dont have the strength in me to chew out logic flow charts for you

[Saudade]

This looker wagon is made out of players mostly having a hard time getting into the game who were awfully silent in the first 10 pages, odds are its a bad lynch and my wagon on wake is far better

[Saudade]

Im also mason so sheep me

[Saudade]

I also happen to be the best player in the table so sheep me

[Saudade]

Thank you for your two useless posts which have already been addressed beforehand

[Saudade]

I also happen to be the best player in the table so sheep me

So good that you can barely get a wagon on the player you want.

Intent to hammer Looker.

if you hammer Looker now you're going to eat rope tomorrow

[Saudade]

Sigh why are you on this wagon profii

[Saudade]

profiii unvote and vote wake my boy

[Saudade]

Looker, Saudade has claimed intent.

We need you to claim please.

i cant believe you let this slot live

[Saudade]

honestly any wagon that doesnt have neither me vorkuta or eibirn on it is just a bad wagon

[Saudade]

I'm not sold on Saudade being Scum.

Being incompetent isn't indicative of alignment.

This is the most protown thing you've said all game

[Saudade]

man idk anymore but wake wagon is not better than looker wagon

gonna need more than "wakemanbad"

what OTHER wagon do you want saudade

honestly id vote saudade over wake at this juncture

Yeah?? You think im scum baby??

[Saudade]

Come dance with me elaborate on that beautiful read of yours

[Saudade]

Sorry I've been gone a while. I found a great beast in the depths of Hallownest and slayed it with my weapon, 'Life Ender!' I will catch up soon.

thoughts on wagons?

I am opposed to the Looker wagon. I think he is going to flip town.

VOTE: Ultimate Plank I still don't like this slot.

Why dont you think wake88 will flip red?

[Saudade]

honestly if saudade continues playing this pathetic id lynch him today as well

actually worse than a prod dodger

REEE WAKE BAD LYNCH WAKE BECAUSE WAKE BAD REEE

do something else

Try

[Saudade]

Well isnt this lovely

[Saudade]

We should no lynch due to the no kill,

[Saudade]

Mathematically its optimal.

[Saudade]

Sadly wake88 seems unlikely to be scum now ):

[Saudade]

We should no lynch due to the no kill,

Mathematically its optimal.

Or we could lynch the next scum...

Or we could play optimally and not be stupid

[Saudade]

we should be no lynching today.... ~_~

[Saudade]

Specifically Saudade, you said if wake is scum then so is Looker.

In that case, what about the other way around?

I retracted that read please read the game,
the read was based on the assumption that Looker was at L-1 and wake didnt hammer him, but wake was already on the wagon.

[Saudade]

Mathematically its optimal.

Not when there's basically almost confirmed town...

????

[Saudade]

Let me give you an actual answer:

Saudade asked me to unvote so looker wasnt at L-1. I considered this to be reasonable. That's all there is to that.

As for not rejoining the wagon you should find that I am always wary of the day 1 "low charisma" mislynch. This game is a popularity contest, especially day 1. If you read my back and forth with Looker I tried to give him every opportunity to talk his way out of his lynch because I thought yall were whipped up into that mob mentality fervor over someone who wasn't doing a good job of being liked.

I wanted an opportunity to read someone under pressure. You all wanted a flip. *Big shrugs*

So.. you found my request to unvote reasonable so you unvoted but now that it flipped scum suddenly its unreasonable and therefore im scum asking for votes off my scumbuddy?

lol do you even know what my meta on this website is

[Saudade]

not that it matters what my meta is your statement alone is rather dim

[Saudade]

ok wake if you're town which i think you are, you have to wonder why saudade was so hellbent on flipping YOU first and saying 'if wake scum then looker scum'

and when multiple people asked why he wouldn't just want to do it the other way around, he resisted it SOFUCKINGHARD

scum would not wanna go 1v9 on day2 and this is a fucking nailed up coffin for saudade as far as im concerned. i will never unvote this slot ever. wake is very likely town after that flip and the person playing the absolute poorest around those wagons was 100% saudade

not just that: does fucking nothing all game except complain that wake is scum

lynch saudade and omegalaff at scumteam thx

This is a blatant misrep, are you scum?

[Saudade]

Meh i think im not reading this game well at all

[Saudade]

I still townread vorkuta eibrin and profii, anyone thinks otherwise?

[Saudade]

No they havent

[Saudade]

The idea that i would try and protect my partner like this is laughable

[Saudade]

Whats the point of pressuring me anyway, you want me to claim? I am mason

[Saudade]

Vortuka barely mentions Looker in his ISO.
He said can somoene TL;DR the case just before Looker hit L-1 the first time
Then after that wagon dipped he said he still didnt get it.
It then picked up again, Vortuka said intent to hammer and then someone else did it approx 20 hours later with no further posts from Vortuka.

I'm not sure if this is someone so focussed on Wake and didnt care about Looker or trying not to get involved in the looker wagon for scum reasons at the moment...

Fair ill think about it

[Saudade]

The idea that i would try and protect my partner like this is laughable

The reason I asked was because I've seen you play like this before - if I hadn't I'd probably say 'no one is going to get over the idea you were trying to balls out protect Looker so better remove this untrustable slot now or never'

You saw me protect my partner like this before?

[Saudade]

Post the game im intrested

[Saudade]

Post the game right now profii or i award you with my glorious vote

[Saudade]

Profiiii where are youuuuu

[Saudade]

Vorkuta what do you think about looker flipping scum and wake turning more town by the pages?

[Saudade]

Post the game right now profii or i award you with my glorious vote

Do me this prof

[Saudade]

The idea that i would try and protect my partner like this is laughable

The reason I asked was because I've seen you play like this before - if I hadn't I'd probably say 'no one is going to get over the idea you were trying to balls out protect Looker so better remove this untrustable slot now or never'

You saw me protect my partner like this before?

no the opposite you dope.

I've seen you play as town and just be like "lynch X guys" "come just lynch him" "guys guys come on just lynch"

just like insistent without really putting any meat on the bone... can't remember if you were right or wrong, I dont think it matters.

Oh okay thats more genuine

[Saudade]

Honestly i dont like Eibirn more than I dont like UltimatePlank

[Saudade]

But Eib was wimpy who had a strong townrepout uhhh

[Saudade]

Yeah I know which is why Eibirn pings me

[Saudade]

Vorkuta disappearing also pings me

[Saudade]

I have no opinion about saladman, who is that

[Saudade]

You think theres only two scum?

[Saudade]

Like.. one now..

[Saudade]

It would make sense if last scum is the flame guy who just burns everyone after x turns

[Saudade]

Otherwise its a bit imbalanced...

[Saudade]

Well i guess we shouldnt nl now

[Saudade]

Due to an unintentional reveal, this is setup information is being given to all players. This was the only information revealed.

25. Mafia have daytalk and

2 members

.

...

Oops

[Saudade]

Yeah its the flame guy i bet

[Saudade]

Thats why theres no kill hes gonna torch us all

[Saudade]

Ill poo on your forehead

[Saudade]

It's either Saudade, Profii, Salad, or Zote.

...

...

Let's kill them all.

You townread Vorkuta?

[Saudade]

Yeah you need to make a smaller lisr

[Saudade]

If its indeed the fireman in 5 mislynches town will be lit on fire

[Saudade]

If he lights properly he could win in 3 mislynches

[Saudade]

Anyway hypothesis aside

[Saudade]

Yeah idk who i want to vote here vork and salad need to talk

[Saudade]

Eibirn talk too just voting me because i asked you to unvote on the scum wagon isnt good enough

[Saudade]

I dont know if it is but what other role would fit balance wise here?

[Saudade]

Well it doesnt matter what role is the last scum

[Saudade]

Thanks there's a lot for me to analyze from the above post

[Saudade]

VOTE: Saudade Plank’s null to me now. I chose saud over vork based on his interactions with looker and last time I played with scum!vork he did SvS (is that right?) with his partner, unlike here where he never interacted with looker.

Great, what interaction between me and looker pinged you?

[Saudade]

Or have you chosen me because vork didnt interact with looker, which means you havent read me at all and just hopping on the wagon

[Saudade]

Interesting that traitor is included in normal.

Also, Looker's role PM was shown, and it said nothing about traitor?

VOTE: Vorkuta

Once again, giving Saudade to claim or withdraw his claim of mason.

I am big dick mason and you will deal with it as such

[Saudade]

Huh

[Saudade]

Half these votes are pretty null

[Saudade]

VOTE: saudade
L-1

You will eat rope for this

[Saudade]

So whats the point of putting me at l-1 here?

[Saudade]

Wheres the pressure

[Saudade]

Feels like everyone were like, meh, imma park my vote here and fucked off the thread as soon as they voted