VOTE: PenguinPowerIn post 41, PenguinPower wrote:I think that would irritate me...good thing I'm not in danger of that pretty much ever
He is simply too powerful
VOTE: PenguinPowerIn post 41, PenguinPower wrote:I think that would irritate me...good thing I'm not in danger of that pretty much ever
(1): From what I know of his meta this seems relatively par for the course townie. But it does seem like he's juicing the "I'm a scummy player" flavor of the account more than normal. I suppose it throws up some yellow flags. I do still think he genuinely believed his own logic on RC could have been received as "towny" regardless of his alignment.In post 226, Dannflor wrote:(1) Can you answer this:
In post 103, Dannflor wrote:@eth0s, do you have a read on BS based off these first few pages? Or are you not finding anything AI based on these first few pages. If not, reads or vague gut feelings on anyone else?Anything else to say about the last several pages besides a naked vote?
Not interested in answering this right nowIn post 268, Banakai wrote:ok I appreciate you posting now, and in general I liked your review of the game so far, but mind explaining more about why pick pine? the only thing you said was he jumped onto BS. Considering he only posted twice so far, what makes him your lynch vote, and not the other 2 people you would lynch?In post 260, eth0s wrote:VOTE: pine there are 3 people I am willing to lynch today and Sheep is no longer included in that list.
I want this question to stand out because I think the answer is important.In post 259, eth0s wrote:In post 159, sheepsaysmeep wrote:i disagree but i like this read from youIn post 155, Gamma Emerald wrote:There’s the fact he didn’t vote there though. I feel like heIn post 119, sheepsaysmeep wrote:what i meant was that if i was a wolf theres no way i'd make a rash decision in calling to lynch rc for no game-specific reason off the batwouldhave voted RC had he gotten support. That part seems wolfy to me.@sheepwhy do you disagree with this?
Which one of your playbooks?In post 271, PenguinPower wrote:Nice...a response straight from my playbook.
I thought this was a goodbye postIn post 276, PenguinPower wrote:Thanks for the setup.
but what if I'm scum and I accidentally turn to the "town" section? Then I would accidentally obvtown myself!In post 278, PenguinPower wrote:Why would you keep separate playbooks? Break it into chapters and index it. Geez...efficiency first.In post 277, eth0s wrote:I'm confused. You use the same playbook as town and scum?
In post 273, eth0s wrote:I want this question to stand out because I think the answer is important.In post 259, eth0s wrote:In post 159, sheepsaysmeep wrote:i disagree but i like this read from youIn post 155, Gamma Emerald wrote:There’s the fact he didn’t vote there though. I feel like heIn post 119, sheepsaysmeep wrote:what i meant was that if i was a wolf theres no way i'd make a rash decision in calling to lynch rc for no game-specific reason off the batwouldhave voted RC had he gotten support. That part seems wolfy to me.@sheepwhy do you disagree with this?
Penguin, I am very confused on what your read on Dann is supposed to be.In post 321, PenguinPower wrote:Is he advocating for RVS votes though? People placing votes and seeing how the wagons develop is useful when looking back. I don't see how encouraging it is scummy.In post 320, Banakai wrote:even 200 posts in he's still advocating for RVS votes. Why do you want people to vote so bad? idk seems kinda scummy to me. Usually town wants to hold off lynching someone until close to the deadline.
why am I redIn post 357, PenguinPower wrote:You can be my new Vedith:In post 287, Dannflor wrote:Speaking of, we getting a rainbow reads list after Pine posts, Penguin?
Spoiler:
although I agree with this coming from town more often I'm pretty sure I got fooled by a scum doing it recentlyIn post 355, Psyche wrote:banakai actually clicking BS's meta links alone suggests to me that he's actually trying to sort scum
I asked this before I got to the readlist.In post 397, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:I think that’s pretty damned obvious.In post 393, eth0s wrote:Penguin, I am very confused on what your read on Dann is supposed to be.In post 321, PenguinPower wrote:Is he advocating for RVS votes though? People placing votes and seeing how the wagons develop is useful when looking back. I don't see how encouraging it is scummy.In post 320, Banakai wrote:even 200 posts in he's still advocating for RVS votes. Why do you want people to vote so bad? idk seems kinda scummy to me. Usually town wants to hold off lynching someone until close to the deadline.
it's just a part of it. You went from liking my catch up and more or less agreeing with me, thinking my thoughts on BS were valid, to voting me. And given the context of 393 (as I was catching up on the last few pages chronologically) I think it was pretty obvious that I hadn't seen the readlist yet. Just felt like a snide remark with the hopes of discrediting me, even if only a little bit.In post 402, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:What? How am I’m being “flip floppy”? And how is this even remotely “aggressive”? I obviously didn’t know you hadn’t seen the readslist when you posted that. Why so defensive?In post 400, eth0s wrote:I asked this before I got to the readlist.In post 397, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:I think that’s pretty damned obvious.In post 393, eth0s wrote:Penguin, I am very confused on what your read on Dann is supposed to be.In post 321, PenguinPower wrote:Is he advocating for RVS votes though? People placing votes and seeing how the wagons develop is useful when looking back. I don't see how encouraging it is scummy.In post 320, Banakai wrote:even 200 posts in he's still advocating for RVS votes. Why do you want people to vote so bad? idk seems kinda scummy to me. Usually town wants to hold off lynching someone until close to the deadline.
What are you getting so flip floppy aggressive on me all of the sudden for anyway?
why does someone need to "sell you" on voting on someone other than someone that you "just feel weird about idk"?In post 401, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:In post 398, sheepsaysmeep wrote:i would v read if he confidently defended instead of backing up saying his w read isn’t confident he just wanted to post itIn post 390, Dannflor wrote:Sort of think scum!Banakai just goes with the consensus reads instead of defending thisSell me on Banaki over Ethos.
Considering my posts were referencing things in posting order and my next post was referencing the readlist, I thought it was pretty obvious.In post 406, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:A) That was prior to Psyche replace in and B) I’m not or ever claimed to be a goddamned mindreader, so why do you think I should know it was “obvious”? You’re basically calling me a liar here, so if anyone is doing any discrediting here, it isn’t me.In post 403, eth0s wrote:it's just a part of it. You went from liking my catch up and more or less agreeing with me, thinking my thoughts on BS were valid, to voting me. And given the context of 393 (as I was catching up on the last few pages chronologically) I think it was pretty obvious that I hadn't seen the readlist yet. Just felt like a snide remark with the hopes of discrediting me, even if only a little bit.In post 402, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:What? How am I’m being “flip floppy”? And how is this even remotely “aggressive”? I obviously didn’t know you hadn’t seen the readslist when you posted that. Why so defensive?In post 400, eth0s wrote:I asked this before I got to the readlist.In post 397, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:I think that’s pretty damned obvious.In post 393, eth0s wrote:Penguin, I am very confused on what your read on Dann is supposed to be.In post 321, PenguinPower wrote:Is he advocating for RVS votes though? People placing votes and seeing how the wagons develop is useful when looking back. I don't see how encouraging it is scummy.In post 320, Banakai wrote:even 200 posts in he's still advocating for RVS votes. Why do you want people to vote so bad? idk seems kinda scummy to me. Usually town wants to hold off lynching someone until close to the deadline.
What are you getting so flip floppy aggressive on me all of the sudden for anyway?
Anything I could link you could be selective and I could just play by/against whatever meta it is to influence how you see me though? Like why don't you just look for it yourself?In post 408, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:@Ethos, @Banaki, can you please link me to some town and scum games of yours? Tyvm.
I don't know. I lean yes on believing you as I doubt you would really drag out such a conversation if it was a snide discrediting remark.In post 413, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:I said I didn’t know you hadn’t seen Penguin’s readlist. Do you believe me or not?
see bold underlines.In post 414, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:WhyIn post 410, eth0s wrote:Anything I could link youIn post 408, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:@Ethos, @Banaki, can you please link me to some town and scum games of yours? Tyvm.be selective and I could just play by/against whatever meta it is to influence how you see me though? Like why don't you just look for it yourself?couldit be “selective” if you’re town? And because it’s less work.would
it should link you to all the threads I've been apart of. See my last post for why there's no point in me putting in the legwork for youIn post 415, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:I asked you for a town and scum game and you link me you’re ISO? I don’t need a link to that.
No offense but what exactly do you think you're contributing by answering a question for someone else?In post 420, sheepsaysmeep wrote:the most recentIn post 418, eth0s wrote:see bold underlines.In post 414, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:WhyIn post 410, eth0s wrote:Anything I could link youIn post 408, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:@Ethos, @Banaki, can you please link me to some town and scum games of yours? Tyvm.be selective and I could just play by/against whatever meta it is to influence how you see me though? Like why don't you just look for it yourself?couldit be “selective” if you’re town? And because it’s less work.would
If I'm scum I can show you whatever I want you to see. If I'm town then I show you which games exactly?
In post 422, sheepsaysmeep wrote:i want to see your most recent games
that still doesn't answer why you scumread me in the first place though. Because it kinda feels like you're just trying to force a scumread on me.In post 429, PenguinPower wrote:I think that's a bad argument for why you are not scum.In post 427, eth0s wrote:You think I would pay less attention to the game if I were scum?
I didn't vote psyche, I voted Pine.In post 433, PenguinPower wrote:Your entire ISO is devoid of actually doing anything but trying to seem busy...Asking questions when the answers are readily available, saying something is important but not really pressing it or doing anything with it (299), voting Psyche but not engaging with him at all, not really pushing anyone really...even your catchup was a regurgitation of the game state and not really your stances. What are they by the way? You said you would be willing to lynch 3 players but didn't actually take the time to say who they were.
And, sorry - why are you voting Psyche again? And, I swear to god, if you say opportunistic in your answer I am going to GIFslap you so hard.
I never thought thatIn post 437, Dannflor wrote:Hey, eth0s, you still think Psyche is the best lynch for today?
it's changed alreadyIn post 438, Dannflor wrote:Also, I'd like if you outed who these three people were.In post 260, eth0s wrote:VOTE: pine there are 3 people I am willing to lynch today and Sheep is no longer included in that list.
yea this is scumIn post 440, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:Well for one thing, they’re being over the top defensive about everything also a bit of a gutread. Granted it’s not strong. They’re entire play just seem kind of off to me. Also ditto to what Penguin already said.In post 416, sheepsaysmeep wrote:nothing; the first post is an overall statement of dislikingIn post 411, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:In post 367, sheepsaysmeep wrote:yeah banakai's dann read is kinda ass but my hesitancy is that it's so against the general consensusIn post 398, sheepsaysmeep wrote:i would v read if he confidently defended instead of backing up saying his w read isn’t confident he just wanted to post itIn post 390, Dannflor wrote:Sort of think scum!Banakai just goes with the consensus reads instead of defending thisWhat happened in those almost 7 hours to change your mind?
talk to me about ethos? i could be convinced either way theyre somewhat under my radar
1: Citation needed.In post 433, PenguinPower wrote:Your entire ISO is devoid of actually doing anything but trying to seem busy...,(1) Asking questions when the answers are readily available,(2) saying something is important but not really pressing it or doing anything with it (299), not really pushing anyone really...even your catchup was a regurgitation of the game state and not really your stances.(3) voting Psyche but not engaging with him at allYou said you would be willing to lynch 3 players but didn't actually take the time to say who they were.(4) What are they by the way?
And, sorry - why are you voting Psyche again? And, I swear to god, if you say opportunistic in your answer I am going to GIFslap you so hard.
Die scumIn post 471, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:No one is tr your enthusiasm for your blatant attempt at trying to mislynching me. If I wasn’t already sl you, I’d be convinced you had no clue how to scumhunt but then I wouldn’t want to get into trouble for insulting yourIn post 465, eth0s wrote:yeeeeeeeeeeetintelligenceability to play mafia properly.
This isnt my scum game yeetIn post 476, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:Ethos’ spamming up the thread with multiple posts of blatantly faked enthusiasm, really clinches it for me. Out of nowhere, he decides to drive a mislynch on me as a extremely thinly veiled OMGUS. I don’t know whether to be amused or smdh that he seriously thinks everyone has suddenly gotten lobotomies.
But I’ll humour him anyway just for the lulz.
Okay @Ethos, what exactly do you find scummy about my play and be forewarned, I refuse to accept “YEET” as a valid answer.
and I still don't understand the point of posting this right after voting me? it's like shading me for not seeing something? absolutely what would I have to gain as scum not seeing penguins readlist yet?In post 397, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:I think that’s pretty damned obvious.In post 393, eth0s wrote:Penguin, I am very confused on what your read on Dann is supposed to be.In post 321, PenguinPower wrote:Is he advocating for RVS votes though? People placing votes and seeing how the wagons develop is useful when looking back. I don't see how encouraging it is scummy.In post 320, Banakai wrote:even 200 posts in he's still advocating for RVS votes. Why do you want people to vote so bad? idk seems kinda scummy to me. Usually town wants to hold off lynching someone until close to the deadline.
pretends to care about meta enough that she has asked like 3 people for examples of their meta yet won't even take 2 minutes to find it herself. probably because she doesn't really care about it and is scum anyway.In post 415, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:I asked you for a town and scum game and you link me you’re ISO? I don’t need a link to that.
this is just a weak thing to point out like seriously. last scum game I played I linked my most recent games when someone asked. I never ask people for examples of their own games because it's so fucking easy to find myself, and I didn't feel like pyrrha was asking in good faith and she confirms it through later behavior.In post 441, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:This too kind of pings me. Because when I get asked this as town, I usually just look for the most recent ones, when scum, I am obviously a lot more careful. I wouldn’t have read into anything specific regardless of which games you had linked.In post 418, eth0s wrote:see bold underlines.In post 414, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:WhyIn post 410, eth0s wrote:Anything I could link youIn post 408, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:@Ethos, @Banaki, can you please link me to some town and scum games of yours? Tyvm.be selective and I could just play by/against whatever meta it is to influence how you see me though? Like why don't you just look for it yourself?couldit be “selective” if you’re town? And because it’s less work.would
If I'm scum I can show you whatever I want you to see. If I'm town then I show you which games exactly?
In post 476, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:Ethos’ spamming up the thread with multiple posts of blatantly faked enthusiasm, really clinches it for me. Out of nowhere, he decides to drive a mislynch on me as a extremely thinly veiled OMGUS. I don’t know whether to be amused or smdh that he seriously thinks everyone has suddenly gotten lobotomies.
But I’ll humour him anyway just for the lulz.
Okay @Ethos, what exactly do you find scummy about my play and be forewarned, I refuse to accept “YEET” as a valid answer.
In post 478, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:I still think you’re scum here fr but I really want to see if any towngames actually exist where you are seriously this bad at mafia. Probably more scum flailing than dumb town but eh?In post 463, eth0s wrote:1: Citation needed.In post 433, PenguinPower wrote:Your entire ISO is devoid of actually doing anything but trying to seem busy...,(1) Asking questions when the answers are readily available,(2) saying something is important but not really pressing it or doing anything with it (299), not really pushing anyone really...even your catchup was a regurgitation of the game state and not really your stances.(3) voting Psyche but not engaging with him at allYou said you would be willing to lynch 3 players but didn't actually take the time to say who they were.(4) What are they by the way?
And, sorry - why are you voting Psyche again? And, I swear to god, if you say opportunistic in your answer I am going to GIFslap you so hard.
2: are you really suggesting that I had no purpose with that? Or that perhaps the answer given didn't do anything to progress where I was going? Weak point.
3: I really thought the reason I voted pine was pretty self-explanatory
4: what are yours? I remember a readlist with no explanation and some side commentary but.. that's about it
penguin can be scum with pyrrha tbh
this bit just irks me because pyrrha is basically talking down on me this whole time, assuming I'm just bad and insulting me multiple times then trying to tell me not to insult everyone's intelligence?!In post 496, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:A) I didn’t “flip out”. B) You tried to drive a mislynch on me. Stop insulting everyone’s intelligence already.In post 490, eth0s wrote:Pyrrha flipped out really hard when I voted her. Like that reaction is a yikes
you can keep calling my play horrendous as much as you want but it doesn't change the fact that your push on me is bad and lazy because I'm an easy target. There's literally no resistance to my push and if you're town then you're thinking about my slot in a really shallow manner.In post 521, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:Spoiler:
Yeah, you’re damn right, I’m not respecting your play here, because you’re either open wolfing or absolutely horrendous town and I’m kind enough of getting tired of this but hey don’t let that stop you.
and why might that be?In post 524, PenguinPower wrote:You're not that easy though...people are talking about voting you but are not.
i'll come back to thisIn post 524, PenguinPower wrote:And - I mean - you completely left out what I said about your play which is accurate.
"three people I wanted lynched" isn't a true representation of my view. however the three people I was originally willing to lynch today were pyrrha, banakai, or BSIn post 524, PenguinPower wrote:How hard is it to give us the three people you wanted lynched originally
I'm willing to lynchIn post 524, PenguinPower wrote:who you scum read now; and, what has changed your mind between the two?
this actually applies to Penguin heavily. Read his ISO and prove me wrong.In post 433, PenguinPower wrote:Your entire ISO is devoid of actually doing anything but trying to seem busy...
For one I don't believe that he genuinely thinks stump!bs would keep "trolling" after death. That's basically equated to gamethrowing in my opinion. And while BS does do some things that I don't agree with I think he's generally a good player when town. But why the hesitance to put him to L-1? why is banakai so happy with putting me to L-1, especially when I was a "slight town lean" in 320? Then he gives a whole writeup for why he is suspicious of dann but never even votes him or anything.In post 172, Banakai wrote:Blatant scum would be my biggest vote RN but I won't vote and leave him 1 away from death. -- also he's potentially just one of those trolly players, which I would normally like to lynch anyway (but in this game if we lynch him and hes town he sticks around)
bad post. Still not voting. Still thinks BS is the "best lynch" after writing up his thoughts on dannflor.In post 371, Banakai wrote:idk how it's forced. I'll admit it's a bit weak. I wasn't trying to convince anyone to vote him, I still think BS would be a better overall lynch. I just wanted to get it out there that I saw some peculiar behavior in him. I know most people are and were town reading him, and I'm going to mostly trust their judgement for now until I see more shady shit. I just don't think he's such obv town like everyone else seems to think.In post 368, Gamma Emerald wrote:It just seems so forced though
why do you think I would try to "force" a scum read on one of the most town-read players in the game.
lolwatIn post 435, Banakai wrote:I slightly agree with eth0's looking scummy. I didn't really see it until people started pushing him hard
this is fucking weaksauce. Especially in contrast to the things I have already pointed out.In post 483, Banakai wrote:yeah i would feel fine with Eth0s lynch now, it really seems like he is just all riled up for no reason. Legitimately can't see a town motivation for this pyyra vote by him (but it's also too dumb for me to really see a good scum motivation either)
I don't think we'll get much better in the next 6 days so I *intend* to L-1 if nobody opposes
this feels like borderline TMI but whatever.In post 498, Banakai wrote:a part of me wants to think that he's doing this to become a stump, but also I think that's a terrible move as town, it's not like were finding any interesting information. It's just Ethos acting very blatantly scummy, and then what? is he gonna be a stump and say "hey vote these guys cause they voted me when I acted blatantly scummy"
how about if you're town you just tell us what you're thinkingIn post 535, Blatant Scum wrote:I will catch up. Reads will either go tommorow, or if noone pressure, perhaps never.
In post 396, eth0s wrote:@Blatant Scumcan you tell us what the day 1 proposal/push you advocated was all about?
Was it a serious intention? Were you just generating discussion? Were you testing the waters?
It seems pretty obvious that people want to know this so I don't know why I'm the first one to directly bring it up via question.
okay how about you start actually playing then and answer this
In post 537, eth0s wrote:In post 396, eth0s wrote:@Blatant Scumcan you tell us what the day 1 proposal/push you advocated was all about?
Was it a serious intention? Were you just generating discussion? Were you testing the waters?
It seems pretty obvious that people want to know this so I don't know why I'm the first one to directly bring it up via question.