Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[Flubbernugget]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAfirst

[Flubbernugget]

Not right now

[Flubbernugget]

Actually

VOTE: something smart[/vj

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: something smart[/vj

[Flubbernugget]

The fuck dude

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: something smart

[Flubbernugget]

Lol. What for?

You know scum governor getting to LYLO is an instant scum win right?

Town governor in lylo is an instant town win too

[Flubbernugget]

Also flub why are you voting ss rn?

Scum trying to nk a way to out them if they quickhammer

[Flubbernugget]

If it's a role that you're only going to see scum pick why would you waste breath trying to solicit a claim?

[Flubbernugget]

Town governor in lylo is an instant town win too

No it's not? Scum aren't going to quickhammer if they don't know if there's a governor.

...which is why they'd want the governor to claim, so they can guarantee that's not a possibility

[Flubbernugget]

I don't think not having quickhammers in lylo is a tiny benefit

It's not the auto I imagined though

Shit

UNVOTE:

[Flubbernugget]

What do you mean by governed onto scum?

[Flubbernugget]

Oh, duh.

I read that going through the op too

[Flubbernugget]

I don't think not having quickhammers in lylo is a tiny benefit

It's not the auto I imagined though

Shit

UNVOTE:

I think it's significantly better for town to know if there's a governor than for town to know

Also scum has like the whole game to sort out if there's a governor before lylo, i dont think they need to conspicuously ask avout this on p1 in order to resolve that potential problem in lylo

I'm not sure why this is the motivation that you got out of ss's post, i'm not sure scum really start the game with that intent in particular really? Like it's such a narrow concern that i dont think that's the first thing on their mind when starting the game

Hence my unvote

What's the problem here?

[Flubbernugget]

You're supposed to pick 5 guys thems the rules

[Flubbernugget]

Suji,

Who is scum?

[Flubbernugget]

78 is pretty interesting

[Flubbernugget]

Suji,

Who is scum?

Three players in this game. Beyond that, I have no clue at this point.

Okay but my concern is that all you're doing right now is saying we have to wait for you to do things.

So for that one thing sure, but what about anything else in the interim?

[Flubbernugget]

Suji,

Who is scum?

Three players in this game. Beyond that, I have no clue at this point.

Okay but my concern is that all you're doing right now is saying we have to wait for you to do things.

So for that one thing sure, but what about anything else in the interim?

I did not say that anyone has to wait for me "to do things." I asked that a specific question being directed toward me (which wasn't asked until I prompted) wait until later to be answered. This also does not prevent anyone else from doing "things," including asking me questions not related to the one which I asked to be answered later.

I am currently waiting on a follow up from Skitter. Is there anything you would like to discuss?

What do you think of kersets play?

Why do you have to wait for skitter to tell you what's interesting in the game?

[Flubbernugget]

I think something_smart, suji, and kerset(???) are probably town

[Flubbernugget]

Go on

[Flubbernugget]

Glancing through the thread I don’t feel great about Skitter either. I think frost is Town atm. Flubber seems Town as well. Null on everyone else atm.

And this is a convenient read for right this moment.

Added to scum list.

What's wrong with light reads atm?

[Flubbernugget]

Hence my unvote

What's the problem here?

Noting that i dont find your thought process particularly believable

You feel ~pricklier~ than normal

No points for guessing why

[Flubbernugget]

Don't really understand the scumreads on SS honestly. I agree that there are better things we could be doing right now than setup spec, but I don't think SS had any malicious intent in doing that.

My big concern is that in the absence of setup spec, something smart has a lot less commentary. Hopefully that's just an irl thing

[Flubbernugget]

flubb why do you feel so different rn from like the last at least two times that i've played with you?

Because I'm not a VT?

[Flubbernugget]

Off of who? I don't think anyone else has expressed a town read on me, i only recall a single tr on skitter, and nothing on frost

[Flubbernugget]

flubb why do you feel so different rn from like the last at least two times that i've played with you?

Because I'm not a VT?

You get more aggressive and like confident when you arent vt?

No but I have a specific goal in mind so I don't feel like I'm putting effort into shit reads because D1 is literally nothing but shit reads

[Flubbernugget]

Nom, I don’t think you explained your Flub scumread? If not, could you do so please.

It's stupid (and don't take this the wrong way Flubb) but in the two games I've played with him Flubb has been completely useless in terms of posting and helping, so seeing him post a lot like this raised a lot of flags in my head. That's basically it lol

Ya i agree with this

If I'm being usless I'm still not making contorted arguments like "if flub is actually playing like a townie now he must be scum" so there's that

[Flubbernugget]

Nom seems to think im scum so "shrug"

[Flubbernugget]

i don't feel any need to defend myself. the fact that you focus solely on the first part of my content where i simply say i'm backreading the game that took 4 days to finally open, which i forgot about in that time is much more relevant to me than any concern for your accusation.

you know why? because you didn't even attach a vote or even apply a scumread. you just said, "sure, you forgot" and left it at that

and now the only content you're providing is to _defend yourself_ where previously all you did was talk mechanics, and complain about the state of the town's game - with no effort to improve the state of the town.

Why did you assume that i disagree with anything else? You state that i provide no content. Were would you read that there was anything else that was bothering me?
Even if you somehow guessed that i disliked one of your opinions, why would i comment a statement, which is one sentence long? It was obvious that you only glanced on topic so far, because you gave no arguments to discuss about.

I won't vote people every single time i ask them a question.

you're more concerned about how you appear than in solving the game, it's obvious.

You beg Aaron and wooper to backup you with votes - you are the one concerned about your appearance. For what other reason would you need votes on me right now? Especially the one, which came out of sympathy. I am not on L-2, so all you can get here is good look.

VOTE: rb

Would probabaly make more sense for kerset to stay on aaron if they're scum here?

[Flubbernugget]

Luca at a glance looks like they're playing very similar to the last game i play with them and it looks pretty town

[Flubbernugget]

rb's scum reading kerset for setup spec but not SS the way I'm seeing it.

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: nom[\v]

They're not doing much and the way they're voting me for playing different (but not necessarily like scum) is a bad look

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: nom

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: nom[\v]

They're not doing much and the way they're voting me for playing different (but not necessarily like scum) is a bad look

It's not because I'm not posting that I don't read this game or think about stuff

Well duh it's because you're scum

[Flubbernugget]

No, they don't.

I've played like this as town before, and "I am a PR" really muddles up how I've said I'm thinking about the way I'm playing.

[Flubbernugget]

skitter you're starting to look like you're trying to hedge me as a lynch option.

[Flubbernugget]

That's not convincing at all.

[Flubbernugget]

What's my vote shade ratio

[Flubbernugget]

Second point is much more indicative of someone that's snarkily inviting people to do things, rather than buddying. That's how I see this interaction in particular.

maybe buddying is the wrong word exactly

but he's like ~trying to get aaron to be comfortable with him and his train of thought and get him to question his own reads and vote with him ~ so idk what to call that

if rb is scum i don't think aaron is ever

So persuasion is scummy now?

[Flubbernugget]

hot take: luca is scum and kerset and I are both town

or more collaboratively: suppose i was wrong about kerset, and we were both town. how would the rest of you feel about Luca's angle on our slots?

Luca doesn't look like scum in the slightest.

[Flubbernugget]

hot take: luca is scum and kerset and I are both town

or more collaboratively: suppose i was wrong about kerset, and we were both town. how would the rest of you feel about Luca's angle on our slots?

How about you state your points against me instead of attempting to elicit reasons from others?

i think your play lacks direction, despite knowing that you're usually a capable and matter of fact player as town who states what they think and pushes in the direction they believe will hit scum.

it's possible that i'm overestimating your townplay, or that you just aren't really pinging heavily on a scumread yet and so aren't the town player i'm used to. nothing you've said really pings me as you being either alignment, which is why i said earlier "i hope Luca's scum because then this game would make a lot more sense"

it also confused me to see you, a player who's relatively familiar with my game to be ambivalent about my entrance. it's like you don't want to acknowledge anything about my play either way, which is not the kind of player i'm used to. all that said, there's feasible reasons you might not be playing the same way i remember your town game, and kerset is like a beacon of obvscum

"luca scum is an easy solve" to "yeah luca is scum" doesn't feel like a natural progression

[Flubbernugget]

Also the only reason I'm being scumread is for actually doing things expected of town so good luck wagoning that.

[Flubbernugget]

What exactly is the case on aaronfrost?

[Flubbernugget]

@nom3 When you shaded s_s, skitter and flubb you compared their gameplay to their previous games. When you scumread me you compared me to yourself and your general theories. Why didn't you compare me to my previous games like you did with others?

Like even this post - i dont think this is the sort of post newb scum makes.
I think he actually wants nom to explain it, and it's more important to him than a lot of what elss is going on inthread rn (like, say, the current rb/kerset discussion)

Like i dont think newbscum focuses on this when they should be focusing on like getting the wagon off of them. This doesnt help that. I think he's asking because he doesnt get nom's approach here, and that's more important to him than anything else rn

I dont think this comes from scum

This looks like trying to debunk a scum read on them ie breaking their wagon down

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: kerset[\v]

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: kerset

[Flubbernugget]

Iso dive on billy doesn't give any obvious scum points

[Flubbernugget]

Same for aaron

[Flubbernugget]

Be back tomorrow

[Flubbernugget]

Today was fucking terrible.

I'm going to do my best to catch up

[Flubbernugget]

The way Aaron wagon went away magically when he has done barely anything to change the reason he's originally scumread makes my read even stronger.

This is the only thing ive seen of note so far

[Flubbernugget]

Btw if you want me in the spotlight I wouldn't mind that kind of attention rn

[Flubbernugget]

I don't think you have any way to point me as scum right now so I would also be interested in seeing a wagon attempt on me.

Yeah there's been this pattern of weirdness between nom and skitter where they both keep going after the same person on dubious grounds

[Flubbernugget]

Pg 40

Billy and aaron both look like they lynch is converging on them out of apathy in absence of any solid scum cases

[Flubbernugget]

Lynching in highs means scum doesn't have to factor in PR's to their nk calculus

[Flubbernugget]

Aaron looks very opportunistic, from reads that he gives us i can't assign him a towny view point. His views just flow somewhere around other people options and manifest at random locations. He was probably trying to lay low but he didn't succeed in this. I don't feel obligated to suspect him bc of my vote during RVS as nom3 said, I don't think that i can utilize mech until we get some flips. Among top voted people he would be my choice.

I agree but i'm not sure this is the right time to start a wagon on him

Suji is really worthy thing to push. If this is not right time to do this then why didn't you suggest it earlier? I think that with better attitude this is still possible.
VOTE: Suji

Not a fan of this

[Flubbernugget]

I guess i am alone with this idea and single vote won't make itUNVOTE: Suji
Luca the thing that you are missing is that aaron never speak up about things outside common agreement. He always pick up things that people already stated view on and try to fit there, i bet that his ISO on billy will be another example of it. S_s, skitter, rb, siffetch, somehow billy and even xaya gave some new view on things, something that came from new perspective. Aaron is just milling already stated thoughts, which is SI for me. VOTE: Aaron

Why did you expect people to hop on suji

[Flubbernugget]

Today was fucking terrible.

I'm going to do my best to catch up

hope you're okay flubs

I always appreciate things like this.

Thank you.

[Flubbernugget]

Btw if you want me in the spotlight I wouldn't mind that kind of attention rn

how do you feel about SS in his current spotlight? I think we've both been kinda underwhelming. Let's save the day together.

I didnt even notice SS was in a spotlight.

He's actually doing things now, but I'd have to follow up on what those things are

[Flubbernugget]

I don't think you have any way to point me as scum right now so I would also be interested in seeing a wagon attempt on me.

Yeah there's been this pattern of weirdness between nom and skitter where they both keep going after the same person on dubious grounds

do tell

There's the initial thing where im scum for playing more like a typical townie

And now there's this xayah thing where they just feel "off"

[Flubbernugget]

I'd like to correct you on one point: I did not oppose Billy's lynch, I was unsure he would flip scum.

A real opposition would be when people started voting rb en masse and I went out my way to defend them. THAT is opposition. I'm pleasantly surprised that billy flipped scum so that's a plus, but I'm not scum and lynching me would ruin our momentum.

Frost would be a good lynch today I believe.

What in the absolute fuck is this post

[Flubbernugget]

tone

it's generic and feels LAMIST-y

again there's the whole 'reacting to a potential lynch as if it's immediate' when it, in actuality, is not; this always looks survivalistic to me

Iirc Aaron and Billy were opposition wagons yesterday too so having them as today's lynch is a non starter

[Flubbernugget]

skitter30 42, 5

HMMMMMMMMMMMN

Your own fuckin shade ratio thing is off the charts right now LMAO

[Flubbernugget]

Skitter why do you dislike billy-xaya interaction?

Xayah's initial vote on billy was awful, and i didnt like her push there

I'm not sure, though, that billy's vote on her was a partner vote; billy's side of it doesnt feel svs + she was a cw to him, which makes me think she might be town

One thing i'm kinda wondering about is why rb died. Iirc one of his major suspicions was xayah and he was angling p hard to go after her

Thought it was Xayah and kerset

But either way rb can't stay in the game if he's got scum in his reads

[Flubbernugget]

I’m pretty sure rb suspected Flubs as well.

Ya it's kinda weird that scum went for rn instead of flub here

I think i'm interested in flub and nom today

I don't get why you think this. I was in everyone's null pile D1 and at least one of my reads were bad

[Flubbernugget]

I actually want to know why flubber didn't vote me earlier. He was still reading around 550.

What points in time are you looking at? I usually don't vote until I'm fully caught up

[Flubbernugget]

It’s getting a bit ridiculous now how Flubs still hasn’t checked-in despite having been onsite. Given the context of this game it does feel scum-indicative to me. 72 hour prod timers doesn’t help matters, either.

I suggest more votes on Flubs.

Yeah I was never prodded and I forgot about the game idk what the big deal is

[Flubbernugget]

Billy/Flubs/Frost scumteam would make sense, actually.

How do Billy and Frost make sense as scum together?

[Flubbernugget]

Pg 40

Billy and aaron both look like they lynch is converging on them out of apathy in absence of any solid scum cases

This is the second post I’ve seen of Flubs soft-defending Billy and Frost.

Like again. How many times have you seen two people floating as to lynch contenders that end up both being scum?

I have to check votecounts still. I feel like I'm missing something obvious.

[Flubbernugget]

I am missing something. Aaron was never Wagoned as aggressively as I remembered. It was more kerset/billy than Aaron/Billly

So kerset was probs mislynch bait

[Flubbernugget]

So yeah I need to check the # of votes on noms and go through rb's iso and my train is stopping so more later have a good one folks

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: nom

4th vote by my count (though there's a good chance I'm off by one or two ish)

[Flubbernugget]

Rb wasn't scumreading billy either

He had some early pushes on aaron but backed off later in the day phase

There's also the bug push on kerset, who I really don't think is scum anymore

So the nk was probably a combination of him not getting lynched anytime soon and drafting well

[Flubbernugget]

Oh, he drafted super high

Bad play grabbing a cop and then town telling that hard dood

[Flubbernugget]

Yeah I also just said going after rb's reads wasn't as telling in hindsight

[Flubbernugget]

Like three posts ago if we want to keep score.

[Flubbernugget]

And?

[Flubbernugget]

It wasn't about changing tunes it was about bad ideas being bad

But looking at 1570 and 1573 I see what you're getting at

[Flubbernugget]

Nom wasn't a "hard townread" from rb tho?

[Flubbernugget]

He doesn't go much further than "probably town" and "not lynching nom today"

[Flubbernugget]

1) You agree with Flubs that we should look at who Rb scumread
2) It’s pointed out that your scumread was hard townread by Rb
3) You then imply that rb’s reads don’t really matter after all

Also, this is the exact thing I did but you're only finding it suspicious on behalf of aaron

[Flubbernugget]

Little to no attempt?

I've thrown townreads around and I've made my case about how this isn't my scumgame, I ain't going to defend myself against one of my scumleans rofl.

Are all four votes on you after you've groped for any viable lynch possible your scumleans now?

[Flubbernugget]

Skiter you should know this isn't my scumgame lol

I'm going to iso Wooper and Suji right now and see what I have.

Oh, right. How could I forget this very convincing argument.

They've done more than this (though a lot of it was self meta)

[Flubbernugget]

I'd love to see competing wagons in frost and nom rn

[Flubbernugget]

Yeah I'm deff seeing in Aaron what Luca was seeing now

[Flubbernugget]

I don't feel nearly as confident in a nom wagon than I do a Flub wagon considering if Frost flips scum that kinda clears nom.

... what?

[Flubbernugget]

Shitshitshitshitshit here I am

[Flubbernugget]

Frost is just trying to pile up reasons to vote me lol

more shadethrowing

The ratio lmao

[Flubbernugget]

Yeah I'm deff seeing in Aaron what Luca was seeing now

i actually don't see what luca is seeing in the past couple of pages, can you elaborate please?

It looked like he was latching onto my thoughts instead of having his own or mindmelding

[Flubbernugget]

Fetchd’s performance in this game reminds me of many games I’ve seen where a scum player does just enough to make himself townier than a pile of low activity posters to get the benefit of the doubt and ultimately win the game. I don’t want to lynch him today as he’s obviously a strong pr but I just wanted to put this on the record. Nothing about his actual play is making me think he is Town, only process of elimination is in his favour given the number of scumreads I currently have (which goes back to my original point).

Yeah they're costing now

[Flubbernugget]

Not a big deal till later on

[Flubbernugget]

it's kinda what it is. People are used to me posting a shitload and obvtowning but they're not getting that this game because I'm busy as fuck so they're voting me for it basically.

Just make sure you vote in flubs/aaron if you lynch me today I don't really care about the rest

Ah yes your play is different so you're getting voted for bad reasons why does this sound familiar hmmmmmm I can't put a finger on it

[Flubbernugget]

I work 7 days a week and have to take care of my son during most of my free time, yet I still find little bits of time to keep up with the thread here and there on my phone.

Anyway, I'm reasonably content with my Nom vote. If she can produce something that looks decent then I could be tempted back onto Flubs instead. I think I'm willing to give Frost the benefit of the doubt for now, as some of his D1 stuff wasn't bad.

Is this a kmd alt it feels like a kmd alt now

[Flubbernugget]

Yeah I mean honestly I'm a computer science student so I usually have this website tabbed open while I work on assignments which is how I keep up with my games on here

I would have left my school a failure if I did this (which is really saying something cuz they're basically a degree farm)

[Flubbernugget]

So uh yeah nom is very blatantly scum that couldn't figure out how to transition from getting through D1 to having to start thinking about their motivations onward

[Flubbernugget]

imagine if skitter was scum in a pypx/y game and we lynched her scumbuddies d1 & d2 and she solo carried for the win?
that wouldn't happen . . . right? that would just be silly . . . . . . right? haha~ ha

Motherfucker don't do this to me

[Flubbernugget]

I'd love to see competing wagons in frost and nom rn

Dreams come true. We are 5-5 with one intent on each side, which makes us 6-6.

It's great I am happy

[Flubbernugget]

nomnomnom (6):

AaronFrost, skitter30, Wooper, Flubbernugget, Luca Blight, Kerset

AaronFrost (4):

Something_Smart, Sujimichi, nomnomnom, Xayah

Flubbernugget (1):

Sirfetchd

Not Voting (1):

PMysterious

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-16 06:43:00)

I don't expect these two to be scum together (scum could have easily gotten a cw on xayah or maybe even kerset over risking another scum lynch after having one yesterday)

Votes on nom look better than the ones on frost atm but I know this isn't completely up to date and that's not my favorite way to read someone anyway

[Flubbernugget]

Flub is still ... not being great, his latest string of posts feel more like ~posting because he got prodded~ than like he has anything real to say

Well yeah

There's not much more to say

[Flubbernugget]

Fetched all this talk about optimal lynches w/o just trying to hit scum is a bad look

[Flubbernugget]

nom i think that you have a v good scumgame and that this looks nothing like it
... but this also looks nothing like your towngame either and you're just saying things that are kinda bizarre in context and if you're town here i kinda need help seeing it because the cumulative effect of all of this is: scum!nom

The anger, frustration, and maybe(?) the giving up fits her scum meta

[Flubbernugget]

I need to catch up today

[Flubbernugget]

I'm the universal backup turned town cop. Unfortunately I investigated Xayah last night and well.

Pretty sure there were more pressing targets that have been reading null all game

[Flubbernugget]

flubz, then smart, then bottom up

Is there a reason you don't want a claim on whoever blocked the kill?

[Flubbernugget]

I'm not going to be able to fully catch up in time so I am just going to claim.

I went for the 1-shot PGO. My thought was in getting first pick I was going to be a prime target for scum to kill, so if I timed it right I could knock off a scum without sacrificing a more powerful role as an early kill. There was a time a while ago where I was getting NK'd early because games wouldn't go anywhere and I was able to look town enough make for a good target. I tried tapping into it but because I've been so lax in more recent times it threw people off and basically failed.

I tried at the very beginning of the game to slip as though I picked governor since that's something scum would want to get out of the way early, but by the end of D1 I sat in everyone's null pile so as far as I was concerned that was a failure. I still have my shot.

[Flubbernugget]

I went for the 1-shot PGO. My thought was in getting first pick I was going to be a prime target for scum to kill, so if I timed it right I could knock off a scum without sacrificing a more powerful role as an early kill.

Did you come up with this plan before or after you got your alignment?

I knew I was town by then. I think functionally I would have had to?

[Flubbernugget]

What? You know that you could just commute as JOAT?

Doesn't nab a scum that would have probably been flying under the radar.

[Flubbernugget]

Plus that's still 4 more days I have to stay alive to use up the whole thing

[Flubbernugget]

Flubb, I've never known you to be an obv town kind of player. Especially with your level of activity in this game. Like ok fine, I can accept not taking cop bc you might be targeted mechanically if town, but there's also JK, JOAT, Doc that are high power slots that can be devestating in the hands of scum.

I feel you are missing a lot of the paranoia I would expect. If the slots behind you are all scum then you have handed them power while they are probably able to work out with some amount of decency and the entire thing fails. If you don't obv town it fails.

Right now it looks like you have picked a role that can ensure multiple town deaths.

consider my vote to be on flub

My paranoia was blowing a strong pr by virtue of being a high draft

I also only has one vote on me here so what's with your vote being symbolic?

Idk what your main is to know what games you've seen me in but I'll try to pull something up with what I'm talking about later

[Flubbernugget]

I'm not going to be able to fully catch up in time so I am just going to claim.

I went for the 1-shot PGO. My thought was in getting first pick I was going to be a prime target for scum to kill, so if I timed it right I could knock off a scum without sacrificing a more powerful role as an early kill. There was a time a while ago where I was getting NK'd early because games wouldn't go anywhere and I was able to look town enough make for a good target. I tried tapping into it but because I've been so lax in more recent times it threw people off and basically failed.

I tried at the very beginning of the game to slip as though I picked governor since that's something scum would want to get out of the way early, but by the end of D1 I sat in everyone's null pile so as far as I was concerned that was a failure. I still have my shot.

this is is a p scummy claim

when's the last time you were nk'd?
is this why you were try-harding and being so weird (for you) day?
if your plan was to be townie enough to eat the nk why didn't you try again yesterday?

Yeah I'll try being ~prickly~ again since it didn't work the first time

Honestly I had a lot if confidence in nom being scum too and I still stand by that even if I was wrong. The whole game was pretty settled into their respective nom aaron votes the whole day phase anyway

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: flub

Luca is right that I'm the correct lynch today. I fucked up and the longer I'm alive the closer it gets to me being a gamethrow.

There might be a way to spin this into a good thing but it depends on how massclaim plays out

[Flubbernugget]

If for whatever reason I am alive for the night aaron should investigate me

You'll either get a result on me or a flip on a controversial slot

[Flubbernugget]

It's a win-win for town (unless aaron is town and decides for some reason not to investigate me)

[Flubbernugget]

If for whatever reason I am alive for the night aaron should investigate me

You'll either get a result on me or a flip on a controversial slot

Cop isn't x-shot and for some reason I thought it was

There's better ways to get a grip on Aaron's slot

[Flubbernugget]

Regardless, we have no kill and a sweet block on flub.

You didn't block me FWIW, but that will be self evident on my flip

[Flubbernugget]

By the way, mafia doctor doesn't show up as having no gun. Again, read the role PM's...

i kinda just assumed it was a normal gunsmith ...

ok so sirfetched blocked flub and you commuted
i think that the only ways the nk could have gone missing is if either flub did the nk or scum targeted you, is that right?

or am i missing something?

pedit or i guess nominally that xayah was the nk ... but i dont' think that's likely at all whatsoever

Scum could have targeted me, though I don't find that likely.

[Flubbernugget]

I'm not moving my vote. Would still rather be the lynch before skitter.

If kerset is correct there is a small chance she got blocked from visiting SS but that still doesn't make up for her "read" on Aaron

[Flubbernugget]

Regardless, we have no kill and a sweet block on flub.

You didn't block me FWIW, but that will be self evident on my flip

Could you explain, I don't understand

The only way fetched can block my kill is if I have a kill to block (ie I'm a vig or scum). I'm neither

[Flubbernugget]

SS, I missed where you said you commuted last night

I thought scumclaim from skitter came from getting a no result on you?

[Flubbernugget]

Whatever was wrong with her claim, her activity nosedived after being called out and it's not a weekend

[Flubbernugget]

Smith's gonna have 72 ish hours to regroup her thoughts and fight out of a lynch tomorrow so a strong consensus as to why she's the definite lynch tomorrow is pretty damn important

[Flubbernugget]

Skitt *

[Flubbernugget]

I thought you weren't one to crumb?

[Flubbernugget]

So you only crumb as scum?

[Flubbernugget]

You're still lynching skit on a flub town flip right?

[Flubbernugget]

Rhetorical question, you're right not to engage