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[sheepsaysmeep]

if pyrrha's nancy then she's been meta clear for the last 50 years why have i been trying

[sheepsaysmeep]

i have no understanding wtf ethos is doing

i dont necessarily find that fact scum indicative but in this case it bothers me somewhat

[sheepsaysmeep]

i still dislike banakai's iso

i think of everyone in the list he stands out as the most lacking in content/effort to advance the game or actual hard stances or reads

[Pyrrha Nikos]

a part of me wants to think that he's doing this to become a stump, but also I think that's a terrible move as town, it's not like were finding any interesting information. It's just Ethos acting very blatantly scummy, and then what? is he gonna be a stump and say "hey vote these guys cause they voted me when I acted blatantly scummy"

I really don’t see this at all. If you were referring to BS’ play otoh, I could definitely see it but I really think Ethos is hoping that if he keeps up this nonsense, people will tr him for apparently sounding so convinced.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

if pyrrha's nancy then she's been meta clear for the last 50 years why have i been trying

Yes and I don’t understand the rest of this?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

i have no understanding wtf ethos is doing

i dont necessarily find that fact scum indicative but in this case it bothers me somewhat

i still dislike banakai's iso

i think of everyone in the list he stands out as the most lacking in content/effort to advance the game or actual hard stances or reads

You’re saying you think Ethos is maybe TWTBAW? I dunno, there’s been something off of his entire ISO. It just reads really fake to me. You could also be right about Banaki but I dunno?


But yeah agree, everyone reads townier to me. I just find that everytime I think the game is an easy solve, I’ve been proven wrong. Newsroom was an exception to that as I correctly and easily nailed both scum in that.

[sheepsaysmeep]

people will tr him for apparently sounding so convinced.

thats actually the reason im not voting him

[sheepsaysmeep]

sheep pyrrha dann
bs
pp gemma psyche
ethos banakai

[Pyrrha Nikos]

i have no understanding wtf ethos is doing

i dont necessarily find that fact scum indicative but in this case it bothers me somewhat

i still dislike banakai's iso

i think of everyone in the list he stands out as the most lacking in content/effort to advance the game or actual hard stances or reads

You’re saying you think Ethos is maybe TWTBAW? I dunno, there’s been something off of his entire ISO. It just reads really fake to me. You could also be right about Banaki but I dunno?


But yeah agree, everyone reads townier to me. I just find that everytime I think the game is an easy solve, I’ve been proven wrong. Newsroom was an exception to that as I correctly and easily nailed both scum in that.

Actually sorry, you’re not saying that about Ethos. It’s Banaki who is suggesting that Ethos is trying to get tree stumped, which I don’t see at all.

Hot take: maybe Ethos and Banaki could be the scumteam?

[sheepsaysmeep]

psyche's chain of posts is pretty lackluster meh

dont really get anything out of his posts because he seems pretty reluctant to take concrete stances


@psyche talk to me about banakai villa?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

people will tr him for apparently sounding so convinced.

thats actually the reason im not voting him

sheep pyrrha dann
bs
pp gemma psyche
ethos banakai

Our reads are not disimilar, except mine are:

Pyrrha

Gamma
Dann/Penguin
sheep

BS/Psyche

Banaki
Ethos

Especially after Banaki’s post about Ethos trying to get tree stumped. I see absolutely no reason to think that. If Ethos flips scum, Banaki could definitely be a buddy based on that.

[sheepsaysmeep]

talk to me about gamma and penguin

wheres your null line on that list?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

talk to me about gamma and penguin

wheres your null line on that list?

I have both as hard town. This game reminds me of Penguin’s LNT and I both hard gutread RC’s post when he unvoted BS and Gamma based on rolling scum 3 times with him - 2 of them, pretty recently. If you’ve ever been scum with Gamma, he isn’t that hard to read.

My null line is BS/Psyche. Based on lack of meta and being less confident on them.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

people will tr him for apparently sounding so convinced.

thats actually the reason im not voting him

Definitely town ftr.

Not interested in lynching Gamma, Dann, Penguin, sheep.

Extremely confident, this is all town.

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.17

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Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

eth0s

(3): Pyrrha Nikos, PenguinPower, Dannflor

Banakai

(2): Gamma Emerald, sheepsaysmeep

Pyrrha Nikos

(1): eth0s

Not Voting

(3): Psyche, Blatant Scum, Banakai

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-16 07:30:00).

Mod notes:

Dannflor is V/LA until the 11th[/area]

[Psyche]

Beyond what I've already said a few times, banakai's posts are just really plainly deliberative that I don't see being faked. Nothing very erratic or unexplained, tends to post thought processes instead of cases while still being clear about his positioning, and so on. He's not carrying us, but it all seems a tough performance to fake as well as he'd have to as scum. It's an easy bet given that it's a townread, but I'd bet the whole game on him being town.

[Psyche]

think i'd be fine lynching eth0s before monday
hard to imagine that a better candidate will come up
maybe need to take time for a closer read first but if the hammer opportunity comes up odds are i'll just go for it

[eth0s]

I don't really know where to go from here tbh. I rarely get pushed for a mislynch on day 1 and the push feels manufactured

[Psyche]

can elaborate on what feels so manufactured about it

[eth0s]

Like I get called out by multiple people for my vote on pine, which was just a pressure vote to get the slot to do something. Pyrrha was voting him for the same reason and no one cared.

Originally pyrrha just votes me because "Ethos feels more off, I can’t really explain why."
Maybe not relevant but she waits 11 minutes to vote me after saying that.

even 200 posts in he's still advocating for RVS votes. Why do you want people to vote so bad? idk seems kinda scummy to me. Usually town wants to hold off lynching someone until close to the deadline.

Is he advocating for RVS votes though? People placing votes and seeing how the wagons develop is useful when looking back. I don't see how encouraging it is scummy.

Penguin, I am very confused on what your read on Dann is supposed to be.

I think that’s pretty damned obvious.

and I still don't understand the point of posting this right after voting me? it's like shading me for not seeing something? absolutely what would I have to gain as scum not seeing penguins readlist yet?

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go crazy

I asked you for a town and scum game and you link me you’re ISO? I don’t need a link to that.

pretends to care about meta enough that she has asked like 3 people for examples of their meta yet won't even take 2 minutes to find it herself. probably because she doesn't really care about it and is scum anyway.

@Ethos, @Banaki, can you please link me to some town and scum games of yours? Tyvm.

Anything I could link you

could

be selective and I could just play by/against whatever meta it is to influence how you see me though? Like why don't you just look for it yourself?

Why

would

it be “selective” if you’re town? And because it’s less work.

see bold underlines.

If I'm scum I can show you whatever I want you to see. If I'm town then I show you which games exactly?

This too kind of pings me. Because when I get asked this as town, I usually just look for the most recent ones, when scum, I am obviously a lot more careful. I wouldn’t have read into anything specific regardless of which games you had linked.

this is just a weak thing to point out like seriously. last scum game I played I linked my most recent games when someone asked. I never ask people for examples of their own games because it's so fucking easy to find myself, and I didn't feel like pyrrha was asking in good faith and she confirms it through later behavior.

Ethos’ spamming up the thread with multiple posts of blatantly faked enthusiasm, really clinches it for me. Out of nowhere, he decides to drive a mislynch on me as a extremely thinly veiled OMGUS. I don’t know whether to be amused or smdh that he seriously thinks everyone has suddenly gotten lobotomies.

But I’ll humour him anyway just for the lulz.

Okay @Ethos, what exactly do you find scummy about my play and be forewarned, I refuse to accept “YEET” as a valid answer.

Your entire ISO is devoid of actually doing anything but trying to seem busy...

(1) Asking questions when the answers are readily available

,

(2) saying something is important but not really pressing it or doing anything with it (299)

,

(3) voting Psyche but not engaging with him at all

, not really pushing anyone really...even your catchup was a regurgitation of the game state and not really your stances.

(4) What are they by the way?

You said you would be willing to lynch 3 players but didn't actually take the time to say who they were.

And, sorry - why are you voting Psyche again? And, I swear to god, if you say opportunistic in your answer I am going to GIFslap you so hard.

1: Citation needed.

2: are you really suggesting that I had no purpose with that? Or that perhaps the answer given didn't do anything to progress where I was going? Weak point.

3: I really thought the reason I voted pine was pretty self-explanatory

4: what are yours? I remember a readlist with no explanation and some side commentary but.. that's about it

penguin can be scum with pyrrha tbh

I still think you’re scum here fr but I really want to see if any towngames actually exist where you are seriously this bad at mafia. Probably more scum flailing than dumb town but eh?

Pyrrha flipped out really hard when I voted her. Like that reaction is a yikes

A) I didn’t “flip out”. B) You tried to drive a mislynch on me. Stop insulting everyone’s intelligence already.

this bit just irks me because pyrrha is basically talking down on me this whole time, assuming I'm just bad and insulting me multiple times then trying to tell me not to insult everyone's intelligence?!

Like this is some stupid AtE overreaction. I was civil with pyrrha and for some reason throughout our dialogue she gets to be the upset and offended one? not me, the guy getting mislynched on such shoddy reasoning?

idk buy into the bull if you want.

I'm still more interested in gamma's opinion than anyone elses rn

[Blatant Scum]

Gamma
Dann/Penguin

Elaborate.

Spoiler:

This is de facto a prodge. I will catch up here today.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Spoiler:

Like I get called out by multiple people for my vote on pine, which was just a pressure vote to get the slot to do something. Pyrrha was voting him for the same reason and no one cared.

Originally pyrrha just votes me because "Ethos feels more off, I can’t really explain why."
Maybe not relevant but she waits 11 minutes to vote me after saying that.

even 200 posts in he's still advocating for RVS votes. Why do you want people to vote so bad? idk seems kinda scummy to me. Usually town wants to hold off lynching someone until close to the deadline.

Is he advocating for RVS votes though? People placing votes and seeing how the wagons develop is useful when looking back. I don't see how encouraging it is scummy.

Penguin, I am very confused on what your read on Dann is supposed to be.

I think that’s pretty damned obvious.

and I still don't understand the point of posting this right after voting me? it's like shading me for not seeing something? absolutely what would I have to gain as scum not seeing penguins readlist yet?

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go crazy

I asked you for a town and scum game and you link me you’re ISO? I don’t need a link to that.

pretends to care about meta enough that she has asked like 3 people for examples of their meta yet won't even take 2 minutes to find it herself. probably because she doesn't really care about it and is scum anyway.

@Ethos, @Banaki, can you please link me to some town and scum games of yours? Tyvm.

Anything I could link you

could

be selective and I could just play by/against whatever meta it is to influence how you see me though? Like why don't you just look for it yourself?

Why

would

it be “selective” if you’re town? And because it’s less work.

see bold underlines.

If I'm scum I can show you whatever I want you to see. If I'm town then I show you which games exactly?

This too kind of pings me. Because when I get asked this as town, I usually just look for the most recent ones, when scum, I am obviously a lot more careful. I wouldn’t have read into anything specific regardless of which games you had linked.

this is just a weak thing to point out like seriously. last scum game I played I linked my most recent games when someone asked. I never ask people for examples of their own games because it's so fucking easy to find myself, and I didn't feel like pyrrha was asking in good faith and she confirms it through later behavior.

Ethos’ spamming up the thread with multiple posts of blatantly faked enthusiasm, really clinches it for me. Out of nowhere, he decides to drive a mislynch on me as a extremely thinly veiled OMGUS. I don’t know whether to be amused or smdh that he seriously thinks everyone has suddenly gotten lobotomies.

But I’ll humour him anyway just for the lulz.

Okay @Ethos, what exactly do you find scummy about my play and be forewarned, I refuse to accept “YEET” as a valid answer.

Your entire ISO is devoid of actually doing anything but trying to seem busy...

(1) Asking questions when the answers are readily available

,

(2) saying something is important but not really pressing it or doing anything with it (299)

,

(3) voting Psyche but not engaging with him at all

, not really pushing anyone really...even your catchup was a regurgitation of the game state and not really your stances.

(4) What are they by the way?

You said you would be willing to lynch 3 players but didn't actually take the time to say who they were.

And, sorry - why are you voting Psyche again? And, I swear to god, if you say opportunistic in your answer I am going to GIFslap you so hard.

1: Citation needed.

2: are you really suggesting that I had no purpose with that? Or that perhaps the answer given didn't do anything to progress where I was going? Weak point.

3: I really thought the reason I voted pine was pretty self-explanatory

4: what are yours? I remember a readlist with no explanation and some side commentary but.. that's about it

penguin can be scum with pyrrha tbh

I still think you’re scum here fr but I really want to see if any towngames actually exist where you are seriously this bad at mafia. Probably more scum flailing than dumb town but eh?

Pyrrha flipped out really hard when I voted her. Like that reaction is a yikes

A) I didn’t “flip out”. B) You tried to drive a mislynch on me. Stop insulting everyone’s intelligence already.

this bit just irks me because pyrrha is basically talking down on me this whole time, assuming I'm just bad and insulting me multiple times then trying to tell me not to insult everyone's intelligence?!

Like this is some stupid AtE overreaction. I was civil with pyrrha and for some reason throughout our dialogue she gets to be the upset and offended one? not me, the guy getting mislynched on such shoddy reasoning?

idk buy into the bull if you want.

I'm still more interested in gamma's opinion than anyone elses rn

Yeah, you’re damn right, I’m not respecting your play here, because you’re either open wolfing or absolutely horrendous town and I’m kind enough of getting tired of this but hey don’t let that stop you.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Gamma
Dann/Penguin

Elaborate.

Spoiler:

This is de facto a prodge. I will catch up here today.

I think I’ve already explained this multiple times?

I hardtown read that post by RC when he unvoted you and I’ve rolled scum with Gamma 3 times, 2, pretty recently, so I trust myself to recognize his tells.

Dann is playing exactly the same way here as he was in BP (Baton Pass) and other games he’s been town in.

Ditto Penguin. If you ISO him in LNT (Last Night Tomorrow), you will see striking evidence of this.

[eth0s]

Spoiler:

Like I get called out by multiple people for my vote on pine, which was just a pressure vote to get the slot to do something. Pyrrha was voting him for the same reason and no one cared.

Originally pyrrha just votes me because "Ethos feels more off, I can’t really explain why."
Maybe not relevant but she waits 11 minutes to vote me after saying that.

even 200 posts in he's still advocating for RVS votes. Why do you want people to vote so bad? idk seems kinda scummy to me. Usually town wants to hold off lynching someone until close to the deadline.

Is he advocating for RVS votes though? People placing votes and seeing how the wagons develop is useful when looking back. I don't see how encouraging it is scummy.

Penguin, I am very confused on what your read on Dann is supposed to be.

I think that’s pretty damned obvious.

and I still don't understand the point of posting this right after voting me? it's like shading me for not seeing something? absolutely what would I have to gain as scum not seeing penguins readlist yet?

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go crazy

I asked you for a town and scum game and you link me you’re ISO? I don’t need a link to that.

pretends to care about meta enough that she has asked like 3 people for examples of their meta yet won't even take 2 minutes to find it herself. probably because she doesn't really care about it and is scum anyway.

@Ethos, @Banaki, can you please link me to some town and scum games of yours? Tyvm.

Anything I could link you

could

be selective and I could just play by/against whatever meta it is to influence how you see me though? Like why don't you just look for it yourself?

Why

would

it be “selective” if you’re town? And because it’s less work.

see bold underlines.

If I'm scum I can show you whatever I want you to see. If I'm town then I show you which games exactly?

This too kind of pings me. Because when I get asked this as town, I usually just look for the most recent ones, when scum, I am obviously a lot more careful. I wouldn’t have read into anything specific regardless of which games you had linked.

this is just a weak thing to point out like seriously. last scum game I played I linked my most recent games when someone asked. I never ask people for examples of their own games because it's so fucking easy to find myself, and I didn't feel like pyrrha was asking in good faith and she confirms it through later behavior.

Ethos’ spamming up the thread with multiple posts of blatantly faked enthusiasm, really clinches it for me. Out of nowhere, he decides to drive a mislynch on me as a extremely thinly veiled OMGUS. I don’t know whether to be amused or smdh that he seriously thinks everyone has suddenly gotten lobotomies.

But I’ll humour him anyway just for the lulz.

Okay @Ethos, what exactly do you find scummy about my play and be forewarned, I refuse to accept “YEET” as a valid answer.

Your entire ISO is devoid of actually doing anything but trying to seem busy...

(1) Asking questions when the answers are readily available

,

(2) saying something is important but not really pressing it or doing anything with it (299)

,

(3) voting Psyche but not engaging with him at all

, not really pushing anyone really...even your catchup was a regurgitation of the game state and not really your stances.

(4) What are they by the way?

You said you would be willing to lynch 3 players but didn't actually take the time to say who they were.

And, sorry - why are you voting Psyche again? And, I swear to god, if you say opportunistic in your answer I am going to GIFslap you so hard.

1: Citation needed.

2: are you really suggesting that I had no purpose with that? Or that perhaps the answer given didn't do anything to progress where I was going? Weak point.

3: I really thought the reason I voted pine was pretty self-explanatory

4: what are yours? I remember a readlist with no explanation and some side commentary but.. that's about it

penguin can be scum with pyrrha tbh

I still think you’re scum here fr but I really want to see if any towngames actually exist where you are seriously this bad at mafia. Probably more scum flailing than dumb town but eh?

Pyrrha flipped out really hard when I voted her. Like that reaction is a yikes

A) I didn’t “flip out”. B) You tried to drive a mislynch on me. Stop insulting everyone’s intelligence already.

this bit just irks me because pyrrha is basically talking down on me this whole time, assuming I'm just bad and insulting me multiple times then trying to tell me not to insult everyone's intelligence?!

Like this is some stupid AtE overreaction. I was civil with pyrrha and for some reason throughout our dialogue she gets to be the upset and offended one? not me, the guy getting mislynched on such shoddy reasoning?

idk buy into the bull if you want.

I'm still more interested in gamma's opinion than anyone elses rn

Yeah, you’re damn right, I’m not respecting your play here, because you’re either open wolfing or absolutely horrendous town and I’m kind enough of getting tired of this but hey don’t let that stop you.

you can keep calling my play horrendous as much as you want but it doesn't change the fact that your push on me is bad and lazy because I'm an easy target. There's literally no resistance to my push and if you're town then you're thinking about my slot in a really shallow manner.

[PenguinPower]

You're not that easy though...people are talking about voting you but are not. And - I mean - you completely left out what I said about your play which is accurate.

How hard is it to give us the three people you wanted lynched originally; who you scum read now; and, what has changed your mind between the two? Instead of flailing at Pyrrha, how about you do that?