Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)


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Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:03 pm

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In post 1748, AaronFrost wrote:If nom flips red then Sirfetchd is likely the last scum.

was very weak reasoning for not lynching nom today. hints that he is scumreading nom, but he doesn't want to commit to it which is evidenced by his vote on me.
this is a good take and crossed my mind
if i wasn't voting nom i'd vote her here
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Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:06 pm

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In post 1747, Wooper wrote:imagine if skitter was scum in a pypx/y game and we lynched her scumbuddies d1 & d2 and she solo carried for the win?
that wouldn't happen . . . right? that would just be silly . . . . . . right? haha~ ha
Well help me get one more vote on nom and I can confirm this for you ducky :)
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Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:09 pm

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haaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaaaaaaa... taking a break from this manic laughter to bring you a reality check!
In post 1743, TheWizard wrote:nomnomnom (6): AaronFrost, skitter30, Wooper, Flubbernugget, Luca Blight, Kerset
i was a pioneer of this wagon(ish) and everything she does makes me think she's more likely flippin red


back to manic laughter: HEEHEEEHEEEEE
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Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:12 pm

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I meant that as a 'help me convince someone not on nom to switch to nom'

That or convince PM's replacement.
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Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:19 pm

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In post 1743, TheWizard wrote:AaronFrost (4): Something_Smart, Sujimichi, nomnomnom, Xayah
Flubbernugget (1): Sirfetchd

Not Voting (1): PMysterious
@y'all hey vote nom
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Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:19 pm

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please
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Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:20 pm

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Stand by nom is a bad Lynch.
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Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:21 pm

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nom is
- high info lynch
- hardcore flailing at the prospect of death
- still really not doing anything towny
- claimed vt

convince me otherwise
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Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:24 pm

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Like I think you get jack shit from the flip regardless of alignment. Maybe that changes with this fight over the two major wagons but for the moment, it looks like a really great Lynch for a subsequent day.

Also ducky. If I was scum with nom, I would have hard pushed it once people came up with the weak relationals and not let go.
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Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:25 pm

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My entire argument is that I see it as super low info Lynch. And stubbornness is sometimes scummy. Xayah flailed much much harder than nom is.
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Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:25 pm

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What do you learn from my flip?
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Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:35 pm

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Xayah's flailing was townier than noms'!
I'm not sure how much of your meta I'm meant to know Sirfy
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Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:56 pm

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what do you learn from me flipping green?

If you don't have a good answer you REALLY should unvote
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Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:01 pm

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I know I haven't been townie but really I have a lot of shit IRL and towning up is boring, I'd rather just push scum.

I'm thinking Flubs maybe has more chance flipping scum? He sounds really bad, moreso than Aaron. If I get lynched today I recommend a flubbs lynch first maybe
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Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:15 pm

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Waiting the best part of a day phase for two players to be replaced isn't fun and is making me lose interest in this game.
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Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:51 pm

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In post 1762, nomnomnom wrote:what do you learn from me flipping green?

If you don't have a good answer you REALLY should unvote
latergame w flips this phase should be a spicemine

what do you you ever learn from mislynching anyone ever noms
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Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:53 pm

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In post 1763, nomnomnom wrote:I'm thinking Flubs maybe has more chance flipping scum? He sounds really bad, moreso than Aaron. If I get lynched today I recommend a flubbs lynch first maybe
This is a conversation that should happen BUT not yet :{
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Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:05 pm

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In post 1765, Wooper wrote:
In post 1762, nomnomnom wrote:what do you learn from me flipping green?

If you don't have a good answer you REALLY should unvote
latergame w flips this phase should be a spicemine

what do you you ever learn from mislynching anyone ever noms
associations?
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Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:17 pm

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you can learn by the way people handle the wagon, for sure
there have been a LOT of reactions to your wagon this phase including a fall from grace from your slot at least one substantial counterwagon

you can't reliably find town via associations with other town
you can't reliably find scum via associations with town but it's a lot easier

given your lynch has been a BIG FACTOR of this phase i think getting the flip so we can look back over how people reacted to it is gr8.

operating on the basis that you're town for sake of winning arguments:
flubs is draft winner and lhf so is objectively a nightmare to cw late in the phase - you also haven't convinced me even slightly on aaron
given you're a vt and semi checked out from this game i'm finding the level of survivalistic flail from your slot a little disconnected as well. you've been heavily pushed and appear to think both scum are on your wagon. given you're not really in the mood for towning it up but believe you're pushing scum do you really not see how your ml helps?
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Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:27 pm

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Adorable is replacing PMysterious.
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Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:30 pm

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Thank God.

UNVOTE:

Welcome to the game, I'll give you time to catch-up.
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Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:35 pm

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A Jigglypuff for a Jigglypuff. What are the odds? :lol:
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:20 pm

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I've been following this game a little bit on day 1 but I haven't read everything. I do remember Aaron defending Billy and even though he defended Billy, he still voted Billy anyways and that was so suspicious because this reminded me of my last game I played here when I saw a scum defend a player on day 1 and votes the player anyways. I can see players have also been scum reading nomnom for defending Billy and derailing the lynch to someone else. I have seen so many town players defend scum and the town players end up getting lynched the next day for defending scum. I'm not sure if nomnom is town who defended Billy for thinking he is town or if nomnom is scum who tried to prevent him for getting lynch and it could go either way. Right now at the moment I'm more suspicious of Aaron and if nomnom does end up getting lynched, no matter what nomnom flips I'll probably still be scum reading Aaron.

I'm almost done reading everything for day 2 and I will have to read day 1 again since I don't remember everything on day 1 but I do remember town reading Luca when I saw Billy flip mafia and I'm also leaning slight town on Suji and Kerset since Billy wanted to lynch those two players. Xayah, Luca, and Skitter were the first 3 voters on the Billy wagon and I don't understand why mafia did not kill one of them last night and since mafia did not kill one of the first 3 voters on Billy's wagon, then I'm thinking Xayah, Luca, and Skitter have been town reading at least 1 scum player or one of them could be scum. These are my thoughts so far and I'll have to read day 1 again so that I can freshen up my memory.
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Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:50 pm

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o hi adorable!! good news, i'm town
interesting pickup re noms/aaron, keen to see your take on their d2s etc. - you're absolutely right, a misread does not a scum make
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Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:54 pm

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In post 1748, AaronFrost wrote:If nom flips red then Sirfetchd is likely the last scum.

was very weak reasoning for not lynching nom today. hints that he is scumreading nom, but he doesn't want to commit to it which is evidenced by his vote on me.
If you think nomnom will flip scum, I think that would make Sirfetch'd town for thinking nomnom is town since normally when a scum is about to get lynched, a scum buddy would always bus their scum buddy for the town cred.
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