Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)


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Post Post #1950 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:04 pm

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Too tired to check the VC rofl

Doesn't matter either way, Xayah's the lynch anyway. I'll leave you the time to come to the same conclusion as me, hopefully today.
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Post Post #1951 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:05 pm

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In post 1949, Sirfetchd wrote:
In post 1934, nomnomnom wrote:Actually yeah... Hm... Xayah and Flubs could be the scumteam? Although I remember Flubs being awk as all hells in the games I played with him previously so that could just be a misconception but like the way he's feeding meaningless stuff on my wagon is suspicious.

I changed my mind about Aaron I figured this out. Lets goooo
Agreeing with my reads is a bad tactic. I have never been an advocate for setting up entire scum teams pre team size -1.
Who said I was agreeing with YOUR reads?

My read is that there's a gamestate at hand where Xayah's doing nothing at all and this is what scums do when two townies are fighting to the death, this has nothing to do with your argument I believe which is essentially a day 1 thing.
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Post Post #1952 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:06 pm

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In post 1950, nomnomnom wrote:Too tired to check the VC rofl

Doesn't matter either way, Xayah's the lynch anyway. I'll leave you the time to come to the same conclusion as me, hopefully today.
You don't believe that your interaction with me just now matters in any way? And, you suggest a different lynch than the two leading wagons but don't profer any reason as to why, relying on us to "come to the same conclusion" based on....?

I am okay with lynching nomnomnom today.
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Post Post #1953 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:06 pm

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In post 1948, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1945, AaronFrost wrote:That me and nom are both scum.
I am unsure as to why you would ask this because her recent posting would suggest that she wants you two to not be associated together as scum, thus strengthening my tinfoil hat theory.
Yeah that's the point. If nom is scum with Xayah here, then she's probably trying to play into your tinfoil theory. You're also not the only person to suggest that theory either.

If she is town here then Xayah is probably still scum honestly.
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Post Post #1954 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:07 pm

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In post 1952, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1950, nomnomnom wrote:Too tired to check the VC rofl

Doesn't matter either way, Xayah's the lynch anyway. I'll leave you the time to come to the same conclusion as me, hopefully today.
You don't believe that your interaction with me just now matters in any way? And, you suggest a different lynch than the two leading wagons but don't profer any reason as to why, relying on us to "come to the same conclusion" based on....?

I am okay with lynching nomnomnom today.
I provided an explanation as to why just now. I heard reading was a good skill to have.
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Post Post #1955 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:07 pm

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In post 1953, AaronFrost wrote:ou're also not the only person to suggest that theory either.
I am aware. I asserted so to Something_Smart earlier today.
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Post Post #1956 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:07 pm

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In post 1953, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 1948, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1945, AaronFrost wrote:That me and nom are both scum.
I am unsure as to why you would ask this because her recent posting would suggest that she wants you two to not be associated together as scum, thus strengthening my tinfoil hat theory.
Yeah that's the point. If nom is scum with Xayah here, then she's probably trying to play into your tinfoil theory. You're also not the only person to suggest that theory either.

If she is town here then Xayah is probably still scum honestly.
by that logic the best move for you is to vote Xayah here, just saying
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Post Post #1957 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:09 pm

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like if you think that Xayah is scum regardless of my flip you REALLY should be voting Xayah if you're that confident about it.
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Post Post #1958 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:10 pm

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You're still the lynch today though. And I do still think you are scum.
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Post Post #1959 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:10 pm

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In post 1954, nomnomnom wrote:I provided an explanation as to why just now. I heard reading was a good skill to have.
I am able to read coherently, thank you. Your rationale seems to be activity-based which (if not obvious by my responses in this game so far) is not something I am inclined to be open to, as well as the assertion of bussing (which is weak on its own). Do you have anything else?
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Post Post #1960 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:14 pm

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Aaron you provided a logic in which you believe that whatever my flip is, then Xayah must be scum. You are essentially doing a bad move by not voting Xayah, again according to your own logic. Whatever it is that makes you vote me instead of someone you think is scum regardless of what happens with me, could be pride or whatever I don't know, you probably should put that aside and make the obviously better move, which is to lynch someone who you think is scum regardless of my alignment. Like this is objectively bad play what you're doing right now.

We also have plenty of time, which people have pointed out plenty. You want me to solve this game? I pointed out a solve with a good reason to go there, and I just showed you why your best vote in this situation is to vote Xayah. If you want to make a bad move keep your vote on me, but if you want to solve this game with me and put pride aside, then we can lynch Xayah together.

pedit: it's a good argument when the slot got extremely active day 1 when scumread by people, then hid behind a lot of walls to get Billy lynched which as I pointed out is a really easy bus considering the factors at hand. That's my whole rationale here, it's a whole package. Reread Xayah's day 1 and you'll see what I'm saying here. It's not an activity thing either by the way, it's just that it's optimal for scum to let townies fight to death when they're leading wagons. It's really easy to do, you don't risk anything and you gain time.
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Post Post #1961 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:18 pm

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I will read it again tomorrow. Thank you.
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Post Post #1962 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:19 pm

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Why not do it now? We're not on a one hour timer you know
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Post Post #1963 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:19 pm

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But if I think you and Xayah are the last two remaining scum, then does it matter what order you are lynched in? In the end, the result is the same, just in a different order.
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Post Post #1964 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:21 pm

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In post 1963, AaronFrost wrote:But if I think you and Xayah are the last two remaining scum, then does it matter what order you are lynched in? In the end, the result is the same, just in a different order.
Because by your own logic there's a chance I flip town here whereas you're saying Xayah is scum either way. That's literally the best vote right now in your world.
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Post Post #1965 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:23 pm

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In post 1964, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1963, AaronFrost wrote:But if I think you and Xayah are the last two remaining scum, then does it matter what order you are lynched in? In the end, the result is the same, just in a different order.
Because by your own logic there's a chance I flip town here whereas you're saying Xayah is scum either way. That's literally the best vote right now in your world.
There's also a chance Xayah flips town as well, which is why I said 'I think' instead of saying 'I know.'
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Post Post #1966 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:24 pm

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Is there a reason that Aaron should not claim here
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1967 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:26 pm

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In post 1962, nomnomnom wrote:Why not do it now? We're not on a one hour timer you know
I require sleep from time to time.
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Post Post #1968 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:27 pm

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I have softed which I mentioned earlier but if people want me to I can full claim.
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Post Post #1969 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:29 pm

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i believe i've made the joke about blindly sheeping you for a 43.75% chance at hitting scum d1 at rand :P
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Post Post #1970 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:29 pm

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@sirf
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Post Post #1971 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:29 pm

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In post 1968, AaronFrost wrote:I have softed which I mentioned earlier but if people want me to I can full claim.
d3 we might wanna massclaim tbh
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Post Post #1972 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:30 pm

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you know what
VOTE: xayah
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Post Post #1973 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:54 pm

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In post 1971, Wooper wrote:d3 we might wanna massclaim tbh
When we get a second scumflip and not before imo
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Post Post #1974 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:57 pm

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i can get behind that

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