Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)


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Post Post #2050 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:51 pm

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also think skitter letting that slide but not picking up on the soft is likely an anti-tpr hunting tell btw town equity is up
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Post Post #2051 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:56 pm

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I'm really bad at picking up on crumbs and PR softs.
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Post Post #2052 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:56 pm

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me too.
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Post Post #2053 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:57 pm

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I don't need to claim. I can probably parse everything myself but it will depend a lot on today's phase.

I think if we get stuck we can mass claim.

Talk me through nom flip stuffs.
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Post Post #2054 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:58 pm

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we probably don't need massclaim ya but a doc/rb/jk should be crumbing saves or guilties
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Post Post #2055 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:58 pm

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don't have time yet, needed to be here but i need to work, more
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Post Post #2056 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:00 pm

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haha same
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Post Post #2057 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:05 pm

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i'd say she has a decent chance of being right on a scumread given she reengaged with the game via scumreading, +equity to {flubz,aaron} but nothing i want to lean into super heavily

i'd say she has a decent chance of being right on a scumread given she reengaged with the game via scumreading, +equity to {flubz,aaron} but nothing i want to lean into super heavily

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In post 2001, TheWizard wrote:
nomnomnom
(7):
AaronFrost, skitter30, Flubbernugget, Kerset, Luca Blight, Sujimichi, Wooper
AaronFrost (3):
Something_Smart,
Xayah
, Sirfetchd
Xayah
(1):
nomnomnom


Not Voting (1):
Adorable

colouring luca for strong unitownread:
i'd say she has a decent chance of being right on a scumread given she reengaged with the game via scumreading, +equity to {flubz,aaron} but nothing i want to lean into super heavily
In post 2001, TheWizard wrote:
nomnomnom
(7):
AaronFrost, skitter30, Flubbernugget, Kerset,
Luca Blight
, Sujimichi, Wooper
AaronFrost (3):
Something_Smart,
Xayah
, Sirfetchd
Xayah
(1):
nomnomnom


Not Voting (1):
Adorable
via basic reads noms wagon looks good but given greens (and the fact i fairly strongly townread otherduck) we probably need to consider the possibility that the wagon is filthy
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Post Post #2058 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:05 pm

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think aaron should be fullclaiming today - i want mr. smarties to weigh in on this
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Post Post #2059 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:16 pm

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I think Aaron should be dying today so like objectively I agree.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2060 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:17 pm

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*thumbsup* me too!

aaron please fullclaim
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Post Post #2061 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:19 pm

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So wooper you were able to kill nom3, even if she wouldn't end up being lynched. What was all of that for?
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Post Post #2062 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:20 pm

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In post 1568, AaronFrost wrote:
U
nderstandable criticism.
B
eing completely honest, there were aspects of this setup that confused me at first such as the draft pick.
A
nd I did acknowledge that Billy was unlikely to be a PR but there was still a small chance that he could've gotten one.
C
alling attention to my partner's potential role like that is something I would never do as scum.
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Post Post #2063 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:21 pm

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I'm the universal backup turned town cop. Unfortunately I investigated Xayah last night and well.
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Post Post #2064 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:21 pm

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In post 2001, TheWizard wrote:
nomnomnom
(7):
AaronFrost, skitter30, Flubbernugget, Kerset,
Luca Blight
, Sujimichi,
Wooper

AaronFrost (3):
Something_Smart,
Xayah
,
Sirfetchd

Xayah
(1):
nomnomnom


Not Voting (1):
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pedit:
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AARON
was the counterwagon, not xayah
xayah is a pain in the ass to lynch
aaron was heavily softing tpr
noms was claimed vt and an easy lynch to get thru + wasn't really enjoying the game much and wasn't really doing much towny until in an extremely survivalistic position which made her hard to read

so many reasons why i did what i did, zero ragrets
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Post Post #2065 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:21 pm

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*sobs quietly*
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Post Post #2066 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:22 pm

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can you link me to some of your scumgames pls aaron?
i suddenly don't value my job like AT ALL
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Post Post #2067 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:23 pm

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In hindsight I probably should've seen the vig kill on Xayah coming.
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Post Post #2068 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:23 pm

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Post Post #2069 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:24 pm

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I don't wanna be the guy who uses self-meta as a defense, but in that game I was much more reserved and hesitant to push anyone so make of it what you will.
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Post Post #2070 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:26 pm

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The issue with UB is that scum are forced in to taking the useless cop bc it's a scum claim otherwise bc role cop is a trash role in this setup when you have a draft order and can generally guess who has what.
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Post Post #2071 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:26 pm

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In post 2069, AaronFrost wrote:I don't wanna be the guy who uses self-meta as a defense, but in that game I was much more reserved and hesitant to push anyone so make of it what you will.
One game does not a meta make.
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Post Post #2072 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:27 pm

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the decision to play hard/get better at scum comes from many places; i don't tend to use skill/engagement level as a reliable meta tell because doing so has a tendency to pass scum free wins

i was looking for another tell there.

at a meta level i'm leaning town on that claim
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Post Post #2073 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:28 pm

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In post 2070, Sirfetchd wrote:The issue with UB is that scum are forced in to taking the useless cop bc it's a scum claim otherwise bc role cop is a trash role in this setup when you have a draft order and can generally guess who has what.
you think that's the case in this setup? with unibackup/rolecop+override?
dwell on this more and lmk what you think
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Post Post #2074 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:28 pm

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In post 2071, Sirfetchd wrote:
In post 2069, AaronFrost wrote:I don't wanna be the guy who uses self-meta as a defense, but in that game I was much more reserved and hesitant to push anyone so make of it what you will.
One game does not a meta make.
Yeah I know that's why I don't like using meta as a defense and truthfully if I were to roll scum in a game again there are a lot of things I'd do differently.
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