Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[Sirfetchd]

I agree with kerset being off. And yeah I am getting heavier and heavier towards scum Aaron.

[Sirfetchd]

Haha, dw it's fine. Pressure is on scum now in time pressure.

I think we are at point of no return on mass claim tho.

[Wooper]

problem there is kerset appeared to very heavily shade me when i started to float a world with town!aaron and accused me of s/s with aaron. that's a pretty peculiar scum mindset if she's scum with aaron. don't think they share an alignment.

pedit: yeah agreed
#ducksquad killin it

[Sirfetchd]

I can see it as a weird distance reverse chainsaw. But that's tinfoil hat territory.

[AaronFrost]

So what you're saying is Kerset should be scum fmpov?

Two ducks and a Hollow Knight

[AaronFrost]

I'm def not clear by any means.

[Sirfetchd]

I really really gotta try and cool it. My kpis are gonna be in tatters and we got a massclain likely happening tomorrow.

[Wooper]

yeah, exactly. very few things are 0 probability in mafia tbf but it's a very odd mindset if they're s/s.

pedit: how is that your takeaway from this? my current reads are kinda fluxy

pedit2: sameee

[Sirfetchd]

So what you're saying is Kerset should be scum fmpov?

Two ducks and a Hollow Knight

I'm def not clear by any means.

No and second post is ew.

[Wooper]

you're a little tunnelled, leekducky

[Sirfetchd]

Ok, I'll step back.

[TheWizard]

AaronFrost (1):

Something_Smart

Wooper (1):

Kerset

Flubbernugget (1):

skitter30

Not Voting (7):

Wooper, Sirfetchd, Sujimichi, AaronFrost, Flubbernugget, Luca Blight, Adorable

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-27 00:51:00)

[Wooper]

Wait do you guys imply that he wanted UB? Looks for me like "I will take this weakling as second choice in case someone takes away my preferred role, it would be lame to be vanilla".

This post is liek tickling the back of my brain
Vote on Kerset in spirit but I want Flubs to check in with his stance on massclaim. He can v much get the ball rolling here.

[Wooper]

you know what
VOTE: xayah

She'll be here tomorrow and the gamestate is better for this flip. There's been too much contest to a noms lynch, I'm not comfortable letting it fly until close to deadline.

Sorry if you were hungrily awaiting Xayah's catch up before d2 ended but I don't see any meaningful reason to let this phase carry on just for it

Wooper you showed concern about contest around nom but you are the one who jumped off wagon in order to vote alongside her. What did you try to accomplish?
VOTE: wooper

missed this is why you voted me - 1994 wasn't true I just wanted to see what would happen. nothing happened.

looking forward to those shotgun reads kerset

[Wooper]

you're not unfairly tunnelled surf. I see where the read comes from. I just do not think Aaron is soloscumming his way thru massclaim - his scumplay isn't like *bad* and there's obviously a path for upwards trajectory but I think if he's scum here his claim was pretty well manufactured which is a level of "high cunning" I wouldn't associate with his skillset at all

if this makes no sense: I think he's coached, or town, most likely

[Kerset]

Flubbernugget wants us to think that he acted non-towny in order to secure his PR, this could be the case. His D2 was fine.
Sirfetch is top town. S_S is useless, he deserve to be scumreaded.
Aaron is trying hard to prove that he is unskilled in this game, it looks like agenda crafted by scumteam to clean him.
Skitter is fine but hard to read bc of paranoia around her.
Adorable has very very shallow reads but unharmful.
Wooper planned this whole course of action for his personal advantage. All he wanted was to shine during massclaim, which he planned for this day but some things got his way. Xayah could clarify herself, if she would get time for it.
Suji is kind of null read for me.
Luca is towny but i would take here the same approach as people do towards skitter.

[Wooper]

Aaron is trying hard to prove that he is unskilled in this game, it looks like agenda crafted by scumteam to clean him.

Other players have pushed him into a situation where he's been kinda forced to present this image - who do you think the scumbuddy is forcing this? or do you think it's an attempt to pocket?

"selfmeta ergo scum" is also an incredibly surface argument - if you think this is an agenda sidestep it. how do you read his content?


I wrote this before reading the rest of your readlist and the number of mixed standards there literally made my head explode

just... reevaluate Aaron in detail we can resume later

[Wooper]

I like, only like your read on Adorable. Every other read there makes me worry.

[Kerset]

It is not about his selfmeta. Its about things like:

I'm really bad at picking up on crumbs and PR softs.

As I said it doesn't matter, when I flip scum you're going down lol

Do you guys think this is an actual slip from nom? I'm leaning towards yes, but even without this I still think she's scum.

Spoiler: Every single mention of nom by Billy Pilgrim (Hint: There's not that many)

Ok catching up from my absence.
@nom - in 89, what part of the setup spec was flying over your head?

Ok catching up from my absence.
@nom - in 89, what part of the setup spec was flying over your head?

not really the setup, more like the numbers discussion I'd say.

I don't buy this. Your 99 was more than competent. I dont know that I see a scum motivation for you claiming incompetence when you clearly had it, but if something starts to feel off, I'm going to revisit this.

Ok catching up from my absence.
@nom - in 89, what part of the setup spec was flying over your head?

not really the setup, more like the numbers discussion I'd say.

I don't buy this. Your 99 was more than competent. I dont know that I see a scum motivation for you claiming incompetence when you clearly had it, but if something starts to feel off, I'm going to revisit this.

my what

Your post 99.

@nom - referring to 406. given that someone (it may have been you) said S_S plays pretty passively as scum wouldnt his lack of scumread also be part of his scum!game?

If I missed something then let me know but as far as I can tell, Billy never gave an actual read on nom and every single interaction with her felt like generic filler questions made to look like they were interacting.

PEDIT: You keep telling yourself that buddy. Meanwhile I'll be focused on actually scumhunting

[Wooper]

Aaron is downplaying his abilities while.. forming reads....what does that tell you here exactly?

[AaronFrost]

Do you think those statements inherently come from scum though? Like anyone here can see from my join date that I'm not that experienced of a player so I fail to see what makes you think I'm 'pretending' to be inexperienced or playing it up. It feels like an baseless accusation to shade me just for the purpose of shading me. I tend to be self-deprecating in my real life and I think part of that kind of comes out naturally on here.

Also these accusations are literally about my own meta so...

[AaronFrost]

Also why is Sirfetchd top town?

[Kerset]

If he proves that he is playing poorly then town will assume that his previous actions were caused by his skill level rather then scum alignment.

[Wooper]

which actions are you talking about tho kerset

[Wooper]

@aaron you are lovely, don't doubt that.
experience fills many holes - having the willingness to learn is overpowered in any hobby, forum mafia is no exception

tho your join date is like 3 months before mine :'<