Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[Wooper]

this is a big big part of why i want massclaim rn

I don't understand why massclaim would help you figure that out at all. Wouldn't you need flips from me, Flubber, and Sirfetchd?

i want instaclaims from flubz, then you, then an ascending massclaim.

[skitter30]

It's a dece No.2 I guess? Especially if scum used al their their picks for info gathering. Depends if aaronscum is next to his partner. Can see it in that situation.

if it's a coached fakeclaim i'm a touch surprised he didn't just say he did cop>unibackup tbh

? not sure i'm following

[Sirfetchd]

It's a dece No.2 I guess? Especially if scum used al their their picks for info gathering. Depends if aaronscum is next to his partner. Can see it in that situation.

if it's a coached fakeclaim i'm a touch surprised he didn't just say he did cop>unibackup tbh

I didn't put cop bc there was zero chance of it still being up even though I was 3rd. I was also right. I get why there's no cop in the claim.

[skitter30]

meh aaron's realtime with you is p good @wooper

[Something_Smart]

i want instaclaims from flubz, then you, then an ascending massclaim.

I'm aware. How does that help you figure out if Aaron would hypothetically be the highest-drafting scum?

[Wooper]

flubz bc don't townread
you mostly out of respect for your ability to correctly navigate an ascending massclaim as either alignment ~_~

[Wooper]

i want instaclaims from flubz, then you, then an ascending massclaim.

I'm aware. How does that help you figure out if Aaron would hypothetically be the highest-drafting scum?

i liek explicitly can't talk about that without giving scum tasty tasty breadcrumbs
:<

can't you see what i'm seeing?

[Something_Smart]

It's not as if I could reasonably lie about my role and get away with it?

[Sirfetchd]

I want a massclaim asap bc it's p much definitely happening today and I don't want scum to have excess time.

Ducky has forced it by talking about it too much. Wasted time now is time in the hands of scum.

[Something_Smart]

i liek explicitly can't talk about that without giving scum tasty tasty breadcrumbs
:<

can't you see what i'm seeing?

Not at all, no. If you think someone has crumbed information that might confirm someone as scum or town, why not let them deal with it?

[Wooper]

meh aaron's realtime with you is p good @wooper

i agree; only reservation is slow responses is +coach equity but it's nabd

other thing is if i was coaching him thru that i would have like nearly always instructed him to say he went for cop first slot, then unibackup with second - max cop utility away from top 1-3 positions is like a Very Towny Draw

he didn't go for something Very Towny; he went for something i literally didn't expect and a pick that just didn't really feel coached. unibackup is ++swing for scum, maybe just +swing including the bypass but w/e

i'd be more concerned he's fakeclaiming altogether and just isn't an unibackup but all in all balance of probabilities i think his claim is just legit

[Luca Blight]

I haven't read up yet but I agree to a mass-claim.

[skitter30]

i'm fine with the order proposed

[Something_Smart]

i'd be more concerned he's fakeclaiming altogether and just isn't an unibackup but all in all balance of probabilities i think his claim is just legit

You think the 5th place drafter whiffed on both of his picks?

[skitter30]

I picked whatever I thought would be most helpful to town/didn't want scum to have. UB is a good town utility which is why I wanted to try for that first.

this post in particular felt good to me @wooper
he'd had to have been coached v well to write this on the fly i think

[Wooper]

i liek explicitly can't talk about that without giving scum tasty tasty breadcrumbs
:<

can't you see what i'm seeing?

Not at all, no. If you think someone has crumbed information that might confirm someone as scum or town, why not let them deal with it?

because we have two nights' worth of info, two more mislynches before lylo, and having valuable conversations with nothing held back is much more valuable than leaning on town power roles which we don't know whether or not exist when the pertinent ones are dead/outed (cop via rb/aaron; i had one vigshot, perfvig doesn't seem to exist) :c

[Something_Smart]

other thing is if i was coaching him thru that i would have like nearly always instructed him to say he went for cop first slot, then unibackup with second - max cop utility away from top 1-3 positions is like a Very Towny Draw

idgi, how is that towny. You know redirector is the other side of cop right?

[Wooper]

i'd be more concerned he's fakeclaiming altogether and just isn't an unibackup but all in all balance of probabilities i think his claim is just legit

You think the 5th place drafter whiffed on both of his picks?

i don't know what you mean by whiffed sorry

[Something_Smart]

two more mislynches before lylo

don't we have three? there's two more vig slots that presumably haven't shot yet.

[Something_Smart]

i don't know what you mean by whiffed sorry

oh I just mean he didn't get either of his draft picks and thus ended up vanilla, that is the only circumstance under which I could ever imagine him fakeclaiming.

[Wooper]

other thing is if i was coaching him thru that i would have like nearly always instructed him to say he went for cop first slot, then unibackup with second - max cop utility away from top 1-3 positions is like a Very Towny Draw

idgi, how is that towny. You know redirector is the other side of cop right?

it would be a very towny claim from someone following rb flipping cop n1**
sorry

redirector issssssssss fine, it's mostly useful post massclaim and particularly if there's vig/cop in play

there's better longterm picks at the top of the order and unibackup is really only any good for abstract towncred x_X i don't actually think it's a very good first slot in a falseclaim pick

[Wooper]

two more mislynches before lylo

don't we have three? there's two more vig slots that presumably haven't shot yet.

vig/pgo appears to not be a vig
pretty sure i'm the only other vig in this setup - let me check

[Something_Smart]

I keep reading wooper's posts thinking they are skitter, I am tired

[skitter30]

Wooper planned this whole course of action for his personal advantage. All he wanted was to shine during massclaim, which he planned for this day but some things got his way. Xayah could clarify herself, if she would get time for it.

huh

[Something_Smart]

pretty sure i'm the only other vig in this setup - let me check

There's JOAT, also if a townie took PGO I'm gonna have some words with them postgame.