Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)


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Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:45 pm

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In post 2248, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2247, Sirfetchd wrote:By this logic why does anyone claim first, it's not like they can lie about their role group.
Because scummy people should claim before towny people and also it's a lot easier for low-down players to claim vanilla when they aren't.
1. Congrats you can claim.
2. That is why we mass claim. That's like the entire point. To catch those people.
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Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:51 pm

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You being wrong about whether I'm towny doesn't make me not towny.

And yeah, I never said I wasn't going to participate in massclaim. But if the slots that are high risk of getting away with a fakeclaim are at the bottom of the list... why are they not claiming first?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:01 pm

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I also support a mass claim and I think we can figure out which claim is scum and which is town. I have a theory but I don't want to say it if we don't mass claim because I get the feeling scum will jinx my theory. Btw, I have been v/la since I replaced in and I didn't think it would matter if I didn't activate v/la since I'm still able to log in.
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Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:59 pm

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I'm leaning towards lynching Flubs before Frost, but I think we need a mass-claim to progress here.

I don't mind going first - I'm VT.
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Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:26 pm

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In post 2253, Luca Blight wrote:I'm leaning towards lynching Flubs before Frost, but I think we need a mass-claim to progress here.

I don't mind going first - I'm VT.
did not want this :{ :{
you need to claim your submitted brackets but like, not before your turn
we need to take the order pretty seriously, it basically freezes scum from lolclaiming slots that have been taken.



@SS, i am asking you to go early because people are scumreading you and i don't think it's correct. you're also in a position where you're good with setups and capable of coaching/navigating thru massclaim in a pypx/y. i don't want the wifom around having you as a scum prospect via solid massclaim.
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Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:27 pm

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i think you also realise we're kind of obligated to plynch you if you flatly refuse to participate at all right D:
like being the sole unknown factor while being one of the better mechgamers in the list is an incredibly dubious position
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Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:28 pm

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optically it's eerily close to openwolfing

big big part of why i want you/flubz going first
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Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:39 pm

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I think you're making sense regarding SS, Wooper.

I don't think there was much harm in me claiming at it's pretty obvious I'm VT given my position on the list. I just want to get things in motion because the longer we're in this limbo the longer the game will stagnate.
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Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:32 pm

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Yeah fair enough. Tbf I clutched an unpopular choice at #10 but...totally valid. Flubz/SS first. If they won't claim just work around then plynch them. ezpz.
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Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:44 pm

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In post 2210, Wooper wrote:
In post 2203, skitter30 wrote:meh aaron's realtime with you is p good @wooper
i agree; only reservation is slow responses is +coach equity but it's nabd

other thing is if i was coaching him thru that i would have like nearly always instructed him to say he went for cop first slot, then unibackup with second - max cop utility away from top 1-3 positions is like a Very Towny Draw

he didn't go for something Very Towny; he went for something i literally didn't expect and a pick that just didn't really feel coached. unibackup is ++swing for scum, maybe just +swing including the bypass but w/e

i'd be more concerned he's fakeclaiming altogether and just isn't an unibackup but all in all balance of probabilities i think his claim is just legit
Unless he was ordered to look like bad player. In this case saying that UB is better then doc makes sense
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Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:41 pm

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Please cease discussion of replacements which have occurred, might occur, you think should occur, etc.
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Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:07 am

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In post 2255, Wooper wrote:i think you also realise we're kind of obligated to plynch you if you flatly refuse to participate at all right D:
Never said I would refuse to participate I just still haven't seen a reason why I should go second beyond "you're good at mechanics"
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:28 am

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I need to catch up today
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Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:30 am

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We’re mass-claiming and you’re up next.

Claim, please.
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Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:51 am

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I can't get gold and give you silver, but I can get silver.

Yo dawg, I heard you like going to work...
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:52 am

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There. Now I can claim last.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:45 am

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I am dumb i don't understand
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Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:49 am

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You're not supposed to. It's a crumb that I don't expect anyone to get but that I can explain after the fact to make what I meant very clear.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:19 am

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In post 2063, AaronFrost wrote:I'm the universal backup turned town cop. Unfortunately I investigated Xayah last night and well.
Pretty sure there were more pressing targets that have been reading null all game
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Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:22 am

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In post 2105, Wooper wrote:flubz, then smart, then bottom up
Is there a reason you don't want a claim on whoever blocked the kill?
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Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:29 am

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I'm not going to be able to fully catch up in time so I am just going to claim.

I went for the 1-shot PGO. My thought was in getting first pick I was going to be a prime target for scum to kill, so if I timed it right I could knock off a scum without sacrificing a more powerful role as an early kill. There was a time a while ago where I was getting NK'd early because games wouldn't go anywhere and I was able to look town enough make for a good target. I tried tapping into it but because I've been so lax in more recent times it threw people off and basically failed.

I tried at the very beginning of the game to slip as though I picked governor since that's something scum would want to get out of the way early, but by the end of D1 I sat in everyone's null pile so as far as I was concerned that was a failure. I still have my shot.
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Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:43 am

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What? You know that you could just commute as JOAT?
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Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:16 am

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In post 2270, Flubbernugget wrote:I went for the 1-shot PGO. My thought was in getting first pick I was going to be a prime target for scum to kill, so if I timed it right I could knock off a scum without sacrificing a more powerful role as an early kill.
Did you come up with this plan before or after you got your alignment?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:27 am

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@Mod:
V/LA until November 22nd.
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Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:54 am

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In post 2272, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2270, Flubbernugget wrote:I went for the 1-shot PGO. My thought was in getting first pick I was going to be a prime target for scum to kill, so if I timed it right I could knock off a scum without sacrificing a more powerful role as an early kill.
Did you come up with this plan before or after you got your alignment?
I knew I was town by then. I think functionally I would have had to?
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