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So do you find it scummy or is this a reason to rvs???In post 12, BrightEyedFish wrote:EBWOP
My vote is on wake because this was going to be my excuse if I have trouble getting engaged on D1.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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I get most of it. But" my excuse if I have trouble getting engaged on D1.In post 14, BrightEyedFish wrote:
RVS for now. Even though the idea of pre-determined lurking is yucky.In post 13, Garmr wrote:
So do you find it scummy or is this a reason to rvs???In post 12, BrightEyedFish wrote:EBWOP
My vote is on wake because this was going to be my excuse if I have trouble getting engaged on D1.
I like to use VCA for my reads and VCA is useless until we get a flip so my D1s are also always yucky...
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Was that as scum or town?While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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I greet him as my mason buddy every game since he was a mason buddy just like I do with fire bringer ;/.In post 16, Hectic wrote:A mason breadcrumb to fall back on with your scumbudddy, Bob? I see right through you.
Scumlean.
Btw are you Joking with all those scum leans or should I just write you off in my daft list. Since I don't see scum coming in with that entrance or basically cutting out my interrogation.
This is what I was getting at with bright eyed fish but I didn't want him to be aware I was scum reading him for it. I wanted himIn post 20, Hectic wrote:
It's scummy as fuck. Why reason it as a RVS? So that you look better when he flips town?In post 14, BrightEyedFish wrote:
RVS for now. Even though the idea of pre-determined lurking is yucky.In post 13, Garmr wrote:
So do you find it scummy or is this a reason to rvs???In post 12, BrightEyedFish wrote:EBWOP
My vote is on wake because this was going to be my excuse if I have trouble getting engaged on D1.
I like to use VCA for my reads and VCA is useless until we get a flip so my D1s are also always yucky...
Scumlean.
Town lean
VOTE: Bright eyed fish
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to tell me naturally so I don't put words into his mouth or my own bias. EbwopIn post 34, Garmr wrote:I wanted himWhile being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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The Vote count is wrong it should be like this.In post 284, cyrus62 wrote:While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Is this post a joke? Because this post is Emotional.In post 288, Hectic wrote:
Emotional?In post 173, Tchill13 wrote:
I think you're both highly emotional players that tend to let that dilute your games.In post 128, Hectic wrote:Rabid is making some good points on both Robb and Tchill.
@Tchill: I'd like to hear someconcrete reads from you on the HecticVRobb thing, and now this RabidVRobb thing.
Robb ik is aware of this as scum. He is capable of manipulating it.
Hectic I pretty much focused on manipulating to win a scum game due to his emotion. I've never seen him play scum.
I'm not jumping at the chance to take stances on you two.
Emotional?!
I'M NOT FUCKING EMOTIONAL. You have no fucking right to call me that
Point to just ONE post where I've been "emotional", and I'll self-vote.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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I also don't like rabids push on robb it seemed kinda forced. But what makes me conflicted is his moves make more sense if Bright is a mislynch than a actual scum mate. The white knighting of fish and the chainsaw on robb. It's something I would do to a mislynch as scum. But I also acknowledge there are those on the site that would be protective of their scum mate. So I guess scum lean.
Tchill... I was going to push a entire case on him unvoting bright eyed fish with out much warning or reasoning but I realised Bob pushed fish to L-1. But what ercs me is voting wake while pushing that both me and hectic are scum partners. While at the same time his posts don't line up. Chucks mud on Rabid then calls him townish. His stances don't really seem hard either. Something seems different this game compared to my previous games the only thing similar is my scum read on him. This time I'm pretty sure I'm not wrong.
While bright eyeds posting didn't really change my view on him. Rabid white knighting him, Tchill Scum reading two people on Brights wagons as if he knows Brights flipping town. I am going to chuck him into Null town because of other peoples reactions around him.
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Even through both are on my scum list I don't feel they are both scum togther.
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In post 433, bob3141 wrote:Also you say bef got to l-1 when tchill unvoted but i cant see that. Tchill change invote happened before I voted BEF. So when i voted BEF he was only at l-2 at that point. Thus tchill unvoted at l-2 and not l-1.
How woudl those two facts effect your read on tchill
Think you missed the bit I acknowledge this.I was going to push a entire case on him unvoting bright eyed fish with out much warning or reasoningbut I realised Bob pushed fish to L-1.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Aha I caught you out here.In post 436, Tchill13 wrote:
VOTE: garmrIn post 432, bob3141 wrote:Why woudl you expect tchill to make a big case for unvoting. What reason you do beleive tchill had when voting BEF
I find it hard to beleive you would push tchill having no reason to unvote BEF as scum case. When he had no reason to vote BEF in the first place. Only 4 posts before Tchill and not one from BEF
ok this is my first vote with substantial reason.
Garmr laid down quite an opportunistic vote on me for weak stuff.
My vote wasn't opportunistic as you had no wagon on you just one vote from Rabid.
Your vote on wake was opportunistic and worthless. The only reason was to lynch a lurker.
Your vote on me was opportunistic as well as it seems to be trying to appeal to bob and isn't deep. Thus your pandering to Bob means Bob is clear during your scum flip.
You say my reasoning was weak but you can't debate them so you avoid actually bringing them up. Because that would draw attention to you.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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The wagon was only growing on you because of my reasoning and people could see I'm right. Find a opinion before mine that's not rabid. They are sheeping me because i'm one of the most competent scum hunters this game.In post 445, Tchill13 wrote:ahem.
oppurtunistic in the since a wagon was growing on me.
no wagon was growing on wake or you when i voted there.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Don't use your math mumbo jumbo on me witch I shall not be fooled.In post 451, Tchill13 wrote:Rabid "gotta catch scum tchill early cus he gets better"
Garmr "aha I actually got you" after I vote him.
Tchill "well the odds state the individual im having a discussion with is mathematically probably town. I should approach the convo from this pov instead of (possible scum thats fooling me) or (I'm too good to be fooled by this guy he's totally scum)"While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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1. I said the wake vote was opportunistic not it would get him lynched. Did you think my being the secound on the wagon would get you lynched.?In post 450, Tchill13 wrote:
1) that wake vote never makes wake get lynched. ever. So saying im voting to lynch is outlandish.In post 444, Garmr wrote:Your vote on wake was opportunistic and worthless. The only reason was to lynch a lurker.
Your vote on me was opportunisticas well as it seems to be trying to appeal to bob and isn't deep. Thus your pandering to Bob means Bob is clear during your scum flip.
You say my reasoning was weak butyou can't debate them so you avoid actually bringing them up. Because that would draw attention to you.
2) just because you disagree with an action doesnt mean its oppurtunistic. Other than bob nobody hardly mentioned you. Bob hasnt exactly been a strong town voice.
3) I avoid bringing them up because I skimmed them and they seemed pointless but its important for me to actually try to understand your pov to work with you and give a reason as to why you're incorrectly seeing the things you're seeing. The miscommunication between garmr and tchill. So i went back and read.
2. The same applies to you bud Just because I voted you and you don't like it doesn't mean it's opportunistic. You haven't described why or how so it seems like buzz words to me.
3.I disagree with them being pointless but I can understand you trying to see from my pov as I try that to do that to.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Haven't really had time to do walls because of medical reasons. But I will be getting back into it now.In post 476, bob3141 wrote:dont why but you feel off this game garmr, you push on tchill felt off. You made mistakes in regards to teh claimed vote timings. And not realy a case for why teh bef unvote actual made tchill scum.
Plus you usual do a few more walls
First time ive actual not town read you
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@Robb I noticed you haven't really talked about me or taking a stance. I'm getting paranoid that your scum waiting to see if I get traction like a past experience I don't want to talk about at the moment. So how about we talk to sort each other out.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Tbh I don't have a problem with her switch as I can't find a scum reasoning for it. If tchill is scum then her sudden switch doesn't make sense as he is at risk of a lynch going through, if tchill is town why kill a potential mislynch at this very point on both wagons aka me and tchill.In post 505, Rabid Schnauzer wrote:skitter's change on tchill has me uncomfortable. garmr, bob, what do you think about her switch?While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Not vote switch read switch. She went from scum reading tchill to town reading them. I can see where she is coming from but Tchill feels off this game.In post 509, bob3141 wrote:In post 506, Garmr wrote:
Tbh I don't have a problem with her switch as I can't find a scum reasoning for it. If tchill is scum then her sudden switch doesn't make sense as he is at risk of a lynch going through, if tchill is town why kill a potential mislynch at this very point on both wagons aka me and tchill.In post 505, Rabid Schnauzer wrote:skitter's change on tchill has me uncomfortable. garmr, bob, what do you think about her switch?
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So we basically agree with skitter then.In post 514, bob3141 wrote:In post 510, Garmr wrote:
Not vote switch read switch. She went from scum reading tchill to town reading them. I can see where she is coming from but Tchill feels off this game.In post 509, bob3141 wrote:In post 506, Garmr wrote:
Tbh I don't have a problem with her switch as I can't find a scum reasoning for it. If tchill is scum then her sudden switch doesn't make sense as he is at risk of a lynch going through, if tchill is town why kill a potential mislynch at this very point on both wagons aka me and tchill.In post 505, Rabid Schnauzer wrote:skitter's change on tchill has me uncomfortable. garmr, bob, what do you think about her switch?
who's vote switch are you talkign about
I know what your talking about now. Yep saw that and thought it looked natural.
Dont think it can used as case against tchill though. So find the use of this to push a tchill lynch opportunistic
I don't understand your post are you accusing me of using this to push T chill?
No offence but your reasons for calling me scum are making me raise a eyebrow.
1-I haven't been posting walls.
2-You said my misrepped me when talking about tchills unvoting. I said in my post I had no problem with him unvoting (the wagon being at l-1) Once I figured out why he did it. I thought going from a scum read to a lurker seemed bad till I figured out the context. This shows you trying to take advantage of my thought process that I considered wrong jumping onto it. Thus me talking about thoughts I disgarded acted as unintentional bait.
3- Now you misrepped me again with this saying I was using skitter to push T-chill.
it seems to me you are trying to push me with out having a real reason. So onto the scum list you go.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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I know both Bob and Tchill scum read me but one has to be scum and the other is probably town. I don't think both scum would jump on me but I feel one is at least scum.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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I learned from before the masses need my guidance every step of the way.In post 541, Tchill13 wrote:sompetentWhile being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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When he jumped off he voted wake instead of me or hectic. If he was actually concerned with getting reads ect like his trying to portray himself he wouldn't park his slot on a lurker. If he voted me then instead of after I found issue with it or he voted hectic I wouldn't have a problem as he would be wrong but at least consistent. It's like his playing safe instead of finding scum.In post 517, skitter30 wrote:Garmr what's bothering u about tchill?
Another reason I don't think bob and tchill are scum together as well because of tchill stating his willingness to vote bob in a way like his setting up the lynch.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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It was, you should of voted me or hectic. It just seemed like it was a opportunity to hide. Also if you were actually scum reading me you missed something which you could be picking at.In post 547, Tchill13 wrote:
but you called it opportunistic???In post 546, Garmr wrote:park his slot on a lurkerWhile being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Great you are taking my words out of context.
The only reason was to lynch a lurker.
This is the only reason to vote wake. Note the word reason.
I don't think it would of accomplished that.I said the wake vote was opportunistic not it would get him lynched.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Also you said you had scum reads so why vote park a lurker when you could of pressured a scum read.In post 553, Garmr wrote:Great you are taking my words out of context.
The only reason was to lynch a lurker.
This is the only reason to vote wake. Note the word reason.
I don't think it would of accomplished that.I said the wake vote was opportunistic not it would get him lynched.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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I gave you the only reason I could think of as town and it doesn't make sense in your scenario since you you had two options to pressure Hectic and I.In post 556, Tchill13 wrote:
you literally gave 3 different reasons for me to vote wake.In post 553, Garmr wrote:Great you are taking my words out of context.
The only reason was to lynch a lurker.
You haven't gave me the reason you voted wake your trying to play word games to escape actually answering.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Neck yourself. I don't want to talk about ongoing games but you were failure in one of those to.In post 561, Tchill13 wrote:look. idk about anyone else and i mean no harm by this statement, nothing personal im just trying to win.
what ive seen from garmr's town game falls in line with this type of play being his scum game.
there's not much substance to either im presuming.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Because no one is interested in you pushing a mislynch on a player that apparently subpar.In post 632, Tchill13 wrote:so my garmr push is just gonna be totally ignored...While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Tchill you are a living piece of shit. I managed to nab Bob off night actions alone in my first scum game together with him and solve the entire game before anytown. When we first played together tchill if I remember I nabbed scum which your dumb ass couldn't nab.In post 658, Tchill13 wrote:ppl are acting so apathetic.
get a grip geez.
skitter my point is garmr doesnt have the most complex thoughts as town and i believe his scum game isnt complex either.
i swear robb, there's several players here not named skitter and rabid. sort them.
Rabid. You're just wrong if you think me and robb are scum together. pretty sure you said you were pers. You claim my scum game is bad d1 which is why i must be lynched now. There's no way i ever ever ever play with a scummate like i play with robb. What is the difference in my town play and my scum play d1?
skitter please actually provide something new.
Creature seems to be lol posting in the middle of the "i give up" town. I'd expect scum to do what creature/wake/bob/BEF are doing if they saw town acting like children as we are now.
Nobody is trying to solve. everyone is just bitching and sitting in their trenches.
You are to fucking dumb to understand my thought process as town. I want to list a current game that's ongoing where you are a fuckstick and simpletin but I don't want the ban hammer.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Ok but I'm not simple.In post 674, skitter30 wrote:Garmr plz stop, you're contributing to the toxicityWhile being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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when I get home I'll post them but was thinking about the game while I am on my 4th anniversary date. I was thinking about the big claim. the slot pretty much confirms itself so there's no point in lynching wake.In post 855, Menalque wrote:Yo garmr what are your reads homie?While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Not much has changed in my reads to be honest since the last time I posted them but Bright eyed fish has dropped out of my town reads. His vote and jump off me was a bit weird after calling me and tchill fight a tvt. If he actually thought it was a tvt why would he vote me soon after.
I was jiving with Hectic and Despite Creature his replacement. scum reading me I can see his point for BEF.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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1.I was on a dateIn post 864, skitter30 wrote:I'll rephrase that - i have no problem with being busy irl or being on a date or inherently not being able to give immediate takes
My problem is more that the only thing he chose to expand upon right then was something incredibly obvious
2.I couldn't read the game fully on my mobile since it be rude and was under the impression tchill was still wanting to lynch Wake for some odd reason. Which is why I phone posted while my girlfriend was in the bathroom.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Yeah for sure.In post 885, skitter30 wrote:
Game has gotten to a point where i feel like i'm starting to get ~into~ it, should be able to get some solid reads soonIn post 883, Tchill13 wrote:skitter i am disappointed in so far (she is capable of being a force for town but has explained why she hasnt been yet, she needs to start working on it) but i like what i see from menal.
@ garmr can you explain your tchill read again?
1.A Instead of pushing a scum read which no one is voting he would rather sit on a lurker.
1.B instead of addressing the issues I had with his post. He plays semantics saying (oh there are mutiple reasons not just one.) as if I can't have multiple issues with his vote. Never does mention why he voted wake instead of slot he scum read.
2.Not sure if I should count this as a reason but I think he was intentionally trying to get me to act emotionally while looking back in retrospect. The only thing I could come up with that debunks this is if he has aspergers which would explain a couple of his actions. Even through I have dealt with a couple of people with this I'm no expert so I will just assume it's the former.
3.His votes feel like they are probing around testing the waters because he lacks reasoning of any kind when you get down to it. His vote on me was a OMGUS reaction.
His vote on skitter(you) for making poor plays was incredibly bad.
(Wake doesn't need to be explained)
His vote on creature has no substance.
The vote park on rabid was also bad a town player shouldn't need to vote park.
Then going back to creature again makes the last vote worthless.
So tldr version weird voting/reasons and trying to goad a emotional reaction out of me.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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I generally see voting together with no support as something scum don't do but I noticed I mentioned this so they could of done it to please me but I don't think they did it.In post 897, Menalque wrote:Garmr i think you didn’t answer me yet about how strongly you feel about tchill v bob?
also his progession doesn't make much sense so i'll go through what I worked out in my head.In post 544, Tchill13 wrote:i'd love to vote bob for the sake of getting reads but i agree with his stance on garmr and idont find bob scummy.null:wake, Robb, Bob, Skitter
creature, BEF
I don't think Bef or Bob had done anything to change postions in the reel and T chill gives no reason to change positions in his reads list. So that to me seems like his influenced by the schedule. I don't know why Bob and rob dropped places while Bef went up. I'm thinking maybe his setting up multiple mislynch options.BEF ain't done shit. that said im more comfortable leaning town on him than garmr, bob, creature or rob.
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It's only two days to lynch so keeping your option open is optimal as scum.In post 905, Menalque wrote:What do you mean by « influenced by the schedule » garmr?While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Convince me his scum then. i got like 2 hours before I leave.In post 931, Robbnva wrote:Rabid is scum. Why would I join the counter. Nobody has been able to townsplain rabid’s actions. I issued an open challenge to everyone even.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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we got 23 hours and it's the perfect time.In post 937, Wake1 wrote:
Why are you refusing to vote Menalque?In post 933, Garmr wrote:Tick Tock Tick TockWhile being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Looking through it now. Will be honest I started ignoring your opinions once posted this shit.In post 942, Robbnva wrote:Made other posts also. I don’t have time go dig through my iso. Especially for somebody who should have read it already
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don't really like them.In post 735, Tchill13 wrote:rob i need you to tell me what you think of garmr.I think their push on you was incredibly bad.I also have 4 other scum reads so adding a 5th right now is kind of ughWhile being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Wake can you stfu I'm doing something.In post 941, Wake1 wrote:There's Scum among Menalque and Garmr.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Also your opinion on skitter was really bad. It was something I don't think would come from scum. I think every sane person here could see that.In post 946, Robbnva wrote:Jfc if you are town never play with me. You’re willing to basically ignore somebody cause they call your push bad?
Anti town. Possibly game throwing. Dude. That’s f’ing patheticWhile being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Fine I'm ok with being shot tonight. Will you lynch Bob today or tommorow if you shoot me tonight?In post 948, Wake1 wrote:
Oh?In post 945, Garmr wrote:
Wake can you stfu I'm doing something.In post 941, Wake1 wrote:There's Scum among Menalque and Garmr.
I'm finna do something tonight, too.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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I had no feelings of anger ect and I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. But please get over yourself.In post 951, Robbnva wrote:You’re entitled to disagree with me. Doesn’t mean I’m going to be vindictive and ignore you.
If you are town you seriously are disgustingWhile being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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Sweet i'll just type it up but it may not be fast becuase my net is conking up so i'm prepping in case it does it again.In post 954, Wake1 wrote:
What is the reason for voting Bob?In post 950, Garmr wrote:
Fine I'm ok with being shot tonight. Will you lynch Bob today or tommorow if you shoot me tonight?In post 948, Wake1 wrote:
Oh?In post 945, Garmr wrote:
Wake can you stfu I'm doing something.In post 941, Wake1 wrote:There's Scum among Menalque and Garmr.
I'm finna do something tonight, too.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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