Dance of the Title Thread: Resurgence in wild?

[Alisae]

other then that, nothing is here that I really like
I only like pup-peteer because it looks clever, but I think if the title literally isn't "The Deepwolf" then idunno like

sheep in deepwolf's clothing I'm not going to anti-nom it because I honestly don't care enough to. Its alright. It just doesn't feel right.

[Alisae]

I don't understand how deepwolf is not ok but a four word title containing deepwolf is ok and in the event they're both ok I think the simpler title is better?

Because the four word title containing deepwolf is not in of itself deepwolf; it is a variant based on the idea, which as I previously stated, I've no qualms about titling off of.

While it is undeniable that you can associate Dannwolf with being a deepwolf (or suspected of as much), vice versa is not the case--when I think deepwolf, I do NOT think of Dannflor. Because the term is generic and dozens of other scummers (myself among them!) Are, notably, known to have that quality.

There is a meme about Dann being a deepwolf, but he doesn't own the term deepwolf to the point where deepwolf in of itself is title worthy, because it fails to convey the history/narrative behind the meme.

Whereas a variant title can accomplish exactly that, being something which Dannflor owns, which makes me think of Dannflor, which conveys the narrative/story behind the title in a way which is distinctly his.

By that metric, is Sheep in Deepwolfs Clothing good enough? I actually think so, because it does fit my mental image of Dannflor, does convey the meme, but I still want more feedback on the idea.

I don't associate Dann with being a deepwolf.
I associate him with being the deepwolf.
Its apart of his identity and adding "the" to it removes how generic it actually is.

its like the word holocaust.
one definition of holocaust is destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war (as per defintion from google). There have been MANY holocausts.
But when you say The Holocaust, you are specifically talking about the event during WW2.

Its not a meme, its his identity and it was long been a thing before AvP. Hell, I think he was even being called that for most of the year.

[Alisae]

nom Dannflor for "The Deepwolf"

this is his identity and if you disagree I will fite u >_<

[Alisae]

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[Alisae]

Nominating

Dannflor

for

Deepwolf

[Alisae]

RC nomed it in early august
thats 3 months ago.

RC started refering to Dann as a deepwolf in MAY and its grown ever sense.

[Alisae]

I also think

Is this a deepwolf?

is also fitting for Dann if you literally do not want to go with The Deepwolf route, since a lot of that meme about the question "Is Dann the deepwolf" when he's was not.

[Alisae]

I mean, I don't actually think Dannflors a super deepwolf player

I feel like this mentality is why Is this a deepwolf? better for Dann, mostly because while he might not actually be that super deepwolf player, he certainly can look like one.

[RadiantCowbells]

+1 Is this a deepwolf?

but I always supported that title so.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ali you’re not going to change anyone’s mind by being loud
And to speak in the defense of pup-peteer, I feel like deepwolf at a certain level is just a puppeteer, manipulating perceptions of them to make themselves less threatening. I also think the pup part of wolf pup is decent, and I added to hyphen to highlight that part specifically

[Alisae]

pup-peteer looks nice
it doesn't really have anything to do with Dannflor tho

[Gamma Emerald]

If you can present Deepwolf in a way that doesn’t look like it could apply to anyone I’ll back it. It doesn’t matter if it is associated with Dann a lot, there are other people it could be associated with too.

[Enter]

Ali you’re not going to change anyone’s mind by being loud
And to speak in the defense of pup-peteer, I feel like deepwolf at a certain level is just a puppeteer, manipulating perceptions of them to make themselves less threatening. I also think the pup part of wolf pup is decent, and I added to hyphen to highlight that part specifically

Yeah, I saw that

And I understand that they're related terms, but at least in my mind, a deep wolf can just as easily be someone who looks really townie as scum- it doesn't have to be intentional manipulation, and this is the tone I feel is most often used with dannflor

[Alisae]

its not deepwolf, that is a generic piece of garbage
its the deepwolf, the the makes it specific.

and which of those other people have the reputation of being called the deepwolf outside of mafia and as a meme that has been apart of site culture since around May.

[Gamma Emerald]

If you can present Deepwolf in a way that doesn’t look like it could apply to anyone I’ll back it. It doesn’t matter if it is associated with Dann a lot, there are other people it could be associated with too.

Like I’d accept something like “Dann in Sheep’s Clothing”
I know similar has been suggested but this at least feel unique
Or maybe the converse “Wolf in Dann’s Clothing”
On second thought not that second one that sounds kinda gross

[Gamma Emerald]

its not deepwolf, that is a generic piece of garbage
its the deepwolf, the the makes it specific.

and which of those other people have the reputation of being called the deepwolf outside of mafia and as a meme that has been apart of site culture since around May.

Deepwolf isn’t just a meme though, it’s a rather common term in mafia
Like yours works because lolbalance isn’t something said all the time. Deepwolf is and adding The before doesn’t really fix that problem

[Enter]

Dannflor

isn't

the Deepwolf, though. He's not really a deewolf at all. The way you're using it removes any irony from it and makes it seem serious

[Enter]

If you can present Deepwolf in a way that doesn’t look like it could apply to anyone I’ll back it. It doesn’t matter if it is associated with Dann a lot, there are other people it could be associated with too.

Like I’d accept something like “Dann in Sheep’s Clothing”
I know similar has been suggested but this at least feel unique
Or maybe the converse “Wolf in Dann’s Clothing”
On second thought not that second one that sounds kinda gross

You want the wolf on the outside
Because he looks like a wolf but isn't one

[Alisae]

The title "The Deepwolf" is not generic. No matter how you spin it, refering to something or someone was "The X" will never be generic.
While not in mafiascum culture, there have been many titles that use the word "The" to make what would be something very generic to something that's not generic.

Saying "The Deepwolf" generic is saying The Holocaust is generic and refers to other holocausts that was not the systematic elimination of 10M jewish people. FYI, you're wrong.
The Holocaust refers to the systematic elimination of 10M jewish people, and The Deepwolf refers to Dann in him being percieved as a Deepwolf.
To say its not is to say that the word "The" does not refer to a person, place, or thing that is unique.

By adding the word "The" you can make something that would not sound unique (Deepwolf in this case) unique.

[Enter]

generic
isn't
the
problem

[Alisae]

its not deepwolf, that is a generic piece of garbage
its the deepwolf, the the makes it specific.

and which of those other people have the reputation of being called the deepwolf outside of mafia and as a meme that has been apart of site culture since around May.

Deepwolf isn’t just a meme though, it’s a rather common term in mafia
Like yours works because lolbalance isn’t something said all the time. Deepwolf is and adding The before doesn’t really fix that problem

so is the word "Queen"
the word "Queen" is something that is said all of the time.
Adding the word "The" and saying "The Queen" means you are talking about someone specifically.

The whole purpose behind the word "The" is to make something that does not sound unique, unique.

[Alisae]

Dannflor

isn't

the Deepwolf, though. He's not really a deewolf at all. The way you're using it removes any irony from it and makes it seem serious

I also think

Is this a deepwolf?

is also fitting for Dann if you literally do not want to go with The Deepwolf route, since a lot of that meme about the question "Is Dann the deepwolf" when he's was not.

[Alisae]

and it doesn't even matter if he isn't.
He's associated with it, and thats enough.

[Gamma Emerald]

Does that satisfy Godwin’s Law? And like, The Holocaust was a huge event in history. Eventually someone else will probably be more deserving of the title “The Deepwolf”, and the title becomes unfitting. I don’t believe the title is valid off that logic, because it’s one that could very likely fall out of style in the future.

[Enter]

and it doesn't even matter if he isn't.
He's associated with it, and thats enough.

Ok

the more I talk to you

the more i get the feeling
that you just don't get it

Maybe it's something you had to be there for

Because usually I think we agree as far as titles and stuff are concerned

and I know you weren't there for really any of it, except ali v pine, because i was there for the rest of it