Mini 2106 - Magia Record Fate Weave Semi-U-Pick (OVER!)

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Ha.

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If your abilities are mediocre, why not use a blast disc? I don't get it.

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Bitmap, just so you know I'm an open alt.

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I'm the best.

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I haven't played the new Pokemon, but on the other hand I finally got the new Fire Emblem. Is that good enough?

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that is a terrible read.

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VOTE: TL

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I hear Implosion has two of them.

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I could OMGUS you for assuming you think kommo-o is better than goodra, but this vote would be scummy if I didn't OMGUS it, so I won't.

TL you should apologize for rolling scum.

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TL is actually outed scum.
Farkran is town.

Feel free to lynch him whenever.

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Yeah but Sumuji is cuter.

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Little early to be asserting that people are chainsaw defending TL.

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Ok there's two ways we can play this

Do y'all want the way that wins more reliably or the one that involves less of me shoving my reads down your throats.

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I have a memoriae that doesn't help scum at all, ftr

What is the point of this?

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I think Bitmap TL might be SvS

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TL would you agree that rolling scum is the sign of deep moral defects?

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Also hilarious that TL is trying to claim his neighborize role for a townclear

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Oh

What about getting D1 quicklynched as scum after being caught on page 4 as scum just like in that normal?

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Do you fail at mafia and you should play better?

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Are you sure you're not scum?

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Ok

If you're town will you vote scum with me?

Hint: it's not Farcry

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Farkran isn't even scummy

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Like that kind of LaMIST posting isn't actually scum indicative.

Anyway

VOTE: Salamenxe20

This is scum if y'all don't lynch them I'm just gonna stop efforting

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Its bad idea to trust severs.

It's a really good idea.

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I can't explain why it's not when I can't see a single reason to scumread him tbh

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No you don't whatever you're scumreading him for is hella dumb

Bitmap if you don't vote Salamence you're scumclaiming

The Several monarchy is starting now

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I AM YOUR GOD NOW CHILDREN.

No you're just an idiot or scum.

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But sure why is Salamence conftown??? Let's hear this!

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YOUR POSTING IS TERRIBLE AND IF I HAVE TO LYNCH YOU INSTEAD I WILL FUCKING DO IT DONT TRY ME

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Your reads suck shh

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Vote Salamence or vote me and get me out of this game all you scrubby scrub scrub WOATs!!!!!

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Were y'all given hooked on Phonics as a kid cuz y'all CANT FUCKING READ SHIR

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Can't add Salamence20 if we lynch him D1 u woat

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I have a one use day parity cop ability that I used like after a little posting and Salamence20 / TemporalLich are of opposite alignments

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I was trying to get a little sorting done before then but I think Sala is the scum of the pairing

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My name is SEVERA.

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MY NAME IS SEVERA YOU OVERGROWN FLYING FUCKING LIZARD

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ROLECOP = SCUM ROLE FACT HIT IT WITH AN ICE BEAM BEFORE IT DRAGON DANCES AND STARTS RETURNING ON YOUR FACE

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Like I'd lose!

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You'll fullclaim when you flip.

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Whoops I just threw up. Gg wp

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Unrelated to mafia, I'm still sick as hell.

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I mean idk how anyone took that guilty seriously and idk how you ever claim in reaction to it lol

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I was just in the mood to do dumb shit but then I threw up and now I'm not really in a silly mood

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I think TL is actually town in that interaction

Farkran could be scum?

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Y'all seriously going to take sheepy mc sheep Alchemist and not push him?

Yes absolutely if both of them are town scum would have wanted to profiteer towncred wise not vote a wagon that's never going through lol

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You believed that I was serious after I called everyone scrubby scrub scrub WOATs?

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ROLECOP = SCUM ROLE FACT HIT IT WITH AN ICE BEAM BEFORE IT DRAGON DANCES AND STARTS RETURNING ON YOUR FACE

You took this as a serious push on you lol

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Farkran is just... not posting great things.

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I think only the magia part of salamence claim is bs

The rest is true

Why would I lie about 1 part

Because your magia would be extremely op to claim it outright, and if that was true you'd have used an accel disc

This is very ??

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Yeah the player who gets policy lynched after leading 1 town lynch sure benefits from that arrangement.

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My being annoying and/or anti-town is compensated by the quality of my reads.

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Although you're playing a game with my gimmick alt specifically designed for playing up the anti-townness and tunneliness.

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Evenstar I was hoping we could get along better than last game so if you're open to trying to reset I wouldn't mind talking about reads or something

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AHA

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Ok, my hood and I have discussed this and I'm going to open this to the floor
My actual abilities are day desperado -> day vig and using combined abilities we can get me up to 100 MP today
I am going to therefore be using the desperado today but I would prefer to use it on someone who, if it fails, is going to actually be useful to town.

So, ignoring my reads momentarily and focusing on the people that I think have some utility as town leader

Evenstar
Farkran
Venus & Mars (Primarily aimed at ND39, but if she continues lurking we're going to lynch rather than desp this slot)
Kerset
Salamence20

How effectively do you think you perform as IC, what are your reads right now, do you have any shot recommendations

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I was just going to troll so that I could live longer but I'd rather deal with this today, and I think that mathematically a desperado is no worse than a vig.
Arguably better given that me shooting town doesn't actually clear me outside of in a "it removes me from the game" sense but yeah.

Multitabling. Also not a ton of content to work from yet. Also I'm paranoid about being in another game with RC after he ML'd me D1 last time.

You're in luck! Also, stop fucking calling me RC my name is SEVERA.

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(Also I think that I hit scum, even on 1/4 odds, over 60% of the time.)

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Like I recall RC waxing on about their scumplay being to just control the game and this fits pretty well

This is NAI and the last time you picked a really stupid fight was when I was hydraed with Postie and you remember how that turned out.

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Also, Alchemist is not a town leader at all and I believe that he is town.

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No really, like you fucking vigged me like a moron in our last game because I led a

single

mislynch on a slot that reacted terribly to my push.
Your read on me isn't just bad it's significantly worse than rand. You scumreading me is a great argument that I'm town. Shove off.

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That is

so

scum indicative of me. Wait... it's not.

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You know that I'm referring to Anime u-Pick.

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You know that I'm referring to Anime u-Pick.

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Don't FoS me for stupid reasons then.

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If you're calling me scum for reads that aren't based on play, and when you call me scum for reasons that you know aren't scum indicative I know it's not based on play,
all I know is that you're not playing the game in good faith. I assume when people are pushing things they don't believe they're scum. I'm not going to make an exception for you.

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I am Severa. Your last game you were in with Severa...

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This isn't complicated.

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Seriously you want to derail the game picking a shitty fight with me go ahead. You'll get lynched and I won't give a shit about it.

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What's scummy about saying that a player who empirically scumreads me the vast majority of the time when I'm scum and has never correctly scumread me as scum can't read me?
When that player then decides to call me scum anyway for reasons that they objectively know are not scum indicative for me, I know that they don't believe what they're pushing.

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There's a reason this is my favorite alt

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Like if you want to call me scum because I've pissed you off by stating demonstrably true things, then you can do it and you'll get lynched for it.
You're leaving it up to me to be the better person when you're trying to policy lynch me and I'm telling you no go fuck yourself I'll play this game if it's the one you want to play.

Civility and playing the game in good faith invite further civility and playing the game in good faith. Pushing people for things that you know they do as town does not.

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I think “Severa is trying to dominate the game” is a pretty play based reason

Did I or did I not attempt to dominate the game in literally every game when I've been town? Given that that is obviously true, how can it be a scumtell?

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Like you called me scum last game for trying to dominate the game. So it's clearly not a good reason to call me scum. Why are you still using a reason as town that over a sample size of over 100 games I do as town 90%+ of the time? That's not honest sorting

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Last game here now using your parlance of Masquerade.

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So like, no, your actual reason for scumreading me is not "because I'm trying to dominate the game." I'm not stupid and the other players in the game aren't stupid. The fact that in a year where I'm running around with a 70% town winrate as people complain about site town winrates falling and you still managed to be the first dude in site history to errantly vig me as town, then later commented that it was the "correct and pro-town play", says that your problem isn't with anything I'm doing in this game. It's with me. And that's not fair to me.

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The idea that scum me cares about your vote on me is stupid.

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Town me doesn't actually care either, just so you know.

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None of my accounts are particularly representative of my IRL personality; all of them are playing a part.

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townreading

Severa
Bitmap
Sujimichi
Alchemist21
Gamma emerald maybe

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If Nancy doesn't start playing soon I'm going to rip her fucking head off with my bare hands.

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In-game, of course.

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I think that people are tonally scumreading Sujimichi (who posts in a way that is liable to be tonally scumread) without considering the merits of what she posts and if you focus purely on what she says she's towny.

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It is extremely typical for me to correctly townread all the lynchbaity town slots in a playerlist while everyone is sitting around going "UHH THOSE ARE THE SCUMMY SLOTS THO"

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I mean, I'm town. I'm not spectacularly concerned about being scumread. In the end the game will townread me because I'm killing scum, not because of the way I post.

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You better fucking apologize

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VOTE: Venus and Mars

play this game

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TL/Evenstar are you guys scum partners

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still p. garbage, but improving. Venus & Mars not having checked in is getting to be annoying. can't wait for D2 so Severa will be dead and I can sheep her reads without fear.

This is weird af from you. How did you go from hating me and my playstyle and feeling like we can't get along because I'm arrogant to obedient sheep?

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I mean, this is referring to trusting my reads not my alignment but okay I'll drop it for now.

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I've seen bad posting from TL town but this is another level.

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Kerset/TL/ND39hydra

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I'm the best!

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Like I'd lose??!?

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Also feel free to keep calling me he, just don't call me RC.

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@everyone, how are you reading Farkran?

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@everyone, how are you reading Farkran?

VOTE: Popsofctown

Why not lynch D1?

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Pops why did you call Gamma out for his 180 on me but not Evenstar

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I voted Pops and she became your top townread

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Keep in mind that being good at mafia doesn't really feel like you're good at mafia and I'm making the same leap of faiths what whatever gibberish my brain presents me as to why some mofo is scum is correct that everyone following me does.

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I'm the best sheep me you morons.

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God you stupid WOATs with your trash reads.

Get better.

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VOTE: Farkran

This is scum and if you guys weren't all IDIOTS you'd have lynched him already.

God!

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So you think that I'm scum then?

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VOTE: Kerset[\v]

This is scum though.

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VOTE: Kerset

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Prolly a confidence of read thing

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Like if I scumread some UNREADABLE MORON like Popsofctown I'm not going to be as CONFIDENT as if I scumread someone who is smart!

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Chemist is always scum in my games we should lynch him.

Sample size like 6

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Annoying!

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All of Kerset's posting feels like the kind of things scum are more likely to post than town.

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Oh dear they were scummy in their other town games on site. I might reevaluate this read.

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Nvm just the cop game and I kinda get the impression they were doing it deliberately.

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Oh dear they were scummy in their other town games on site. I might reevaluate this read.

Cmon you haven't seen me playing as a scum, don't jump on conclusions. I feel unfair to be not scumreaded bc of this.

If it helps, I'm still scumreading you now that I read your second town game which is like night and day from what you're doing here.

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I mean, Kerset's ISO is entirely devoid of anything that feels meaningful or gamesolvey and filled with useless posts and weird progressions.

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Kerset scumread to me is more of a function of the things that are missing from his posting as opposed to what is actually there.

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@Severa, how do you know TL's not just incompetent? I'm having difficulty finding wolf motive beyond "spread chaos" in his current postings.

I have seriously considered him being a jester many times this game. I'm not all that sure what alignment he is, admittedly.

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pops push on Gamma and TL look like someone's picking off low-hanging fruit. Her trajectory from GE to TL is even worse because TL is probably one of those townies that just doesn't fit standard mold as town and just has really really shit reads.

I start to feel that you want to enforce this idea of "unconventional townies", just so you can feel free to play this game in dodgy way.

this specific post is town a vanishingly tiny portion of the time.

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like, idk why there aren't more Kerset votes at this point.

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idk why you're mad at me over that game. the only scum I didn't catch in that game was RcEnigma and that was largely because I wrote him off as a PoE scumread to be dealt with after I died
Even when I called HH out my original callout was that RcE/HH was SvS and I just backed off on that because I didn't want to be seen as encouraging the RcE wagon as well 'cause I was more sure.

I don't think I was the reason we lost that game. I think that if LLD weren't falsely confirmed town she'd have been lynched D3 or D4.

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if you want to play a game without people sheeping me for reasons that aren't striclty -this game- then you would need to just not play a game that i'm in.

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anyway, bitmap was the actual desperado. we'll see what happens.

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kerset's still scum, not sure why they're still alive

also if you're going to counterwagon scum then i'm going to lynch you for it and if you get mad at me for not reading you correctly i'm just gonna laugh at you.

don't make this another baton pass situation where all the slots that i have tp policy lynch for hard defending scum flip town

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alchemist is town

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pops you're her scumbuddy i'm not talking to you anymore

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i really have better shit to do (aka fire emblem 3 houses) then convince you all to vote for scum when it's as obvious as kerset is.

if youc an't see it that's on you

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I was townreading Chemist and am willing to fight about it.

Alchemist is failing to meet low expectations here.

Who's scum besides TL, Alchemist?

I’d say it’s likely at least 1 scum is on my wagon right now.

Your vote is the least understandable to me. You’ve seen me be like this is Town before so why am I scummy to you for “failing to meet low expectations?”

because he needs a counterwagon to scum!kerset

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she apologies

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she apologies

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if you don't give a shit about my kerset scumread which i've been super clear about why do you care about my other reads

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i don't give a fuck i consent to temporallich being lynched before endgame i do not consent to him being lynched today.

anyone who claims they actually have any idea what alignment he is is lying to themselves or scum

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it really is just pops/kerset 2/3

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you guys are terrible

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you guys are terrible

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anyway back to 3 houses, have fun lynching town

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i feel like scum are just calling all the lynchbaity slots (alch gamma tl) scum and hoping that they get lynched even though other than TL they aren't actually scummy in this game

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ingrid best waifu

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although i'm glad we've gotten away from cringewaifu emblem and back into

UNVOTE:

Hey Severa, you have any thoughts about how Kerset reacted to the reaction test?

i'd be lying if i said i thought any of it was ai

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i have 2 scumreads kerset and pops

idk who third is atm

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btw the hood is 100% real even if most thing we've said about it have been bs

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itt: people will literally vote anyone besides kerset

no it's not and when she flips scum you're next

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^

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evenstar feels like she's cosplaying as me monkey sorting her readslist every time she posts it

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i neither like nor dislike it. certainly don't think she thinks it's an effective scum strategy. i think it's nai at worst.

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also kerset is still scum and you should be voting her.

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it's not memes kerset is literally just obvscum

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thing is that scum already know that the game completely falls apart for them with a kerset lynch so pops is priced into hard defending

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i'm very interested in evenstar's cooperation

i went blue lions first on gif's recommendation

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left to my own devices

i would have gone black eagles

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which of those would townreading you be

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Alch21 sheeping me is not meaningfully Ai one way or the other

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Every time I have changed my alchemist21 read from my gut read (sample size 2) I have been wrong to do so.

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I really don't think this scum alch.

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Its like G3/L6 last game. I have unique tools for reading lynchbaity players.

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You're scum go away

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Shoo! Begone pest.

Like I'd actually vote Pops over Kerset atp

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You scumread G3 to the point that I called you scum running interference because you kept scumreading him for towny posts

Don't turn around and try to retcon the past

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Yes I do actually

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And scum were abjectly refuisng to vote you and I caught scum off of tbat

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You didn't see it last game either.

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I WILL CRUSH HER SKULL

I WILL SEE YOU IN THE ETERNAL FLAME

TOO WEAK FOR THIS WORLD

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that sounds like an awful lot of time and energy that could be devoted to ~other activities~

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interactions like 1342-1405 are so bad and feel very svs

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Im not stalling shit.

I just dont think we should have a superquick day lynching pops D2 if Kerset flips scum.

I didnt think I needed to explain this, but we are lynching pops D2 for sure but I still want to dedicate time making sure other players are caught up and see if we can get more info on scum 3.

You act like you would care about town but in fact you are just lazy player for limiting yourself to kerset d1 lynch.

these posts man

i just can't buy town pops townreading this

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Im not stalling shit.

I just dont think we should have a superquick day lynching pops D2 if Kerset flips scum.

I didnt think I needed to explain this, but we are lynching pops D2 for sure but I still want to dedicate time making sure other players are caught up and see if we can get more info on scum 3.

You act like you would care about town but in fact you are just lazy player for limiting yourself to kerset d1 lynch.

these posts man

i just can't buy town pops townreading this

[Severa]

can't do it

like

this is an evenstar situation

where pops is scum regardless of this flip

maybe i should be voting pops instead

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VOTE: Popsofctown

I'm going to actually make the optimal play instead of making the easy one

I am 100% sure that how Pops has interacted with this wagon is scum : it's the same thing I saw in HH->Evenstar wagon in that game. I would say it's above average probability to be scum-scum but it's possible that Popsofctown is hard defending a mislynch in the hopes of getting towncred (even if I find that much less likely than both being scum) so let's just lynch the thing that always flips scum instead of the one that doesn't.

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I'm 100% sure that scum are avoiding this wagon. I'm just not sure if that makes Kerset scum. And if it is in fact TvS I would much rather get the scum flip first and cement my standing.

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TL bc he is the most scumreaded.

Seriously?
What if three of the people scumreading him are scum?
You don't want to form your own ideas?
Do you realize this is the opposite of the point of my question?

like it's stuff like this that Pops asks a question, Kerset gives a scummy and terrible answer to it, and Popsofctown just decides not to scumread it for ~reasons~.
It's not a town progression, it's either Pops TMIing Kerset town or it's Pops refusing to scumread her buddy. Either way, scum and optimal D1 kill etc etc.

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yeah but it was a bad wagon then, she was town until i became the one to lead everyone onto her

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note that i also poed an entire majority of the game on d1 (the wagon on evenstar) as town based on my analysis of how the votes were and weren't going onto even.

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no, i just had an insanely large town poe pool and 4/4 scum in my bottom 6 players

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yeah this is a scum win.

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town just wants to go after lynchbait

pops didn't do anything towny, she's being townread solely for effort even though that readslist was terrible

farkran is lynchbait and probably town according to meta

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like seriously does it not bother you guys that all the wagons you're excited about are

farkran
temporallich
gamma emerald
alchemist21

you really think just coincidentally all the slots that suck at projecting town in general happened to roll scum this game?
i mean kerset could be seen as lynchbaity as well but kerset was barely doing anything, whereas this group has actually done stuff people just don't like it
and not for spectacularly good reasons

@Severa: Is the pops read list AI?

no? if anything I think it's scummy because of the way she presents her reads on certain players

it's effort.

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there's a good wagon on pops if you want to stop having a shitty vote

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it is not the case.

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>_> <_<

what about the argument "severa is scumreading her therefore she should die"

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Town, because Sujimichi is really good at projecting town, presumably.

this reaction is town like sub 10% of the time.

i'm COMMITTED

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KILL HER

TOO WEAK FOR THIS WORLD

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i'm like

objectively better than lld

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i'm busy playing fire emblem

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not the townread, it's something else which must remain secret

scumteam guess has changed a lot. for one i'm getting pretty sure that salamence20 is scum

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I think sala20 scumreading Popsofctown until I wagoned her and then turning around and townreading her and making a dumb as fuck post like 1561 so that he's effectively refusing to engage with being asked to change votes back to pops is the worst optics i have seen in at least 5 dyas

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look how many times salamence20 makes a gigantic show of declaring his freedom and how he's wagoning -all these people- who aren't pops

i think i was probably wrong on kerset who was just not posting at all and then pops got outed tmi townreading her and scum don't actually want to bus her.

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like i feel like townies always seem to end up lapping that shit up (see HH) but it's come from scum when it's been this much of a posturing point nearly all the time.

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if that's the price of admission, I'll take it.

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Evenstar = Edelgard?

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I got nominated for a scummy as scum for people buying the reasons above. Buying noobs playing bad = scum is a terrible idea, I'm sure you know that, so knock it off.

i won a scum play scummy, if we're trying to make weird irrelevant flexes

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barring mechanical fake innos i have only been 'blindsided' by scum once in my entire mafia career and that was Postie in Slavic Music Mafia 2

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the closest to what you're saying would have been Pignash in the newbie but instead of what you're saying we're talking about someone who repeatedly lied about his rl circumstances to townspew himself

and even then i wasn't all that surprised that I was wrong

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even having a single scum as a townread for a single point in the game is 'bad' enough, for me, that i will be called out for it at the end of the game.

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I feel like you're using this entire line of questioning to try to corner me into taking a stance that you can use to discredit my pops push and I'm not keen on responding to it as a result.

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I don't apologize at all for this misread if you're town and Kerset is scum btw

in all other situations I feel bad about it.

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i'm kinda just giving up on this game mentally

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i'm kinda just giving up on this game mentally

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you were hard pushing two townies in g3 and l8 who were both obvtown

don't act like it's my fault that you were trying to be scum MVP

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i townread your slot until you made repeated shitty jabs at a bunch of slots that i correctly townread and you didn't. were you just badtown in the end? yes.

but complaining that i'm not perfect because i incorrectly interpreted you going after all of my correct townreads as you being scum is absolute insanity

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i disagree with almost everything you said

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I can't force that kind of a wagon read; either I see something or I don't and I don't presently see something.