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Better than that Adel. The mafia, despite what they may say, are one element - they will claim pairs but be much more linked. So it takes twelve down to five.Adel wrote:it takes a game of twelve elements and simplifies it to six elements."The carefully constructed chain of events suddenly seems not merely to contain a weak link, but to be constructed entirely out of stupefyingly enormous mistakes and errors of judgement."- Harvey Pew
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Er, maybe. But this and your scum ploy are making my head hurt. I would unvote you but I can't even tell what message that would send.Gimbo wrote:no, I am NOT omgusing."The carefully constructed chain of events suddenly seems not merely to contain a weak link, but to be constructed entirely out of stupefyingly enormous mistakes and errors of judgement."- Harvey Pew
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What? So far thats all we've had: Proposed by MafiaSSK. Modified by Adel to a D2 claim. D1 claim agreed by Nameless and then forbiddanlight. D1 claim rejected by SpyreX for D2. D2 claim backed by MafiaSSK and then somestrangeflea. Gimbo supports D1 claim. Chelseafan rejects D1 mass claim. Mass claim at some unspecified date backed by me. Chelseafan changes mind but does not specify Day. Gimbo claims. chenhsi claims. SpyreX says no again.Gimbo wrote:how about start by claiming lovers, everyone?
So with all this, I'll say that my partner (who is also my lover )isin favour of a claim. But I will leave it up to them to make the claim, if they still think it wise, on D1 <- An example of SpyreX's "slower member" in action?"The carefully constructed chain of events suddenly seems not merely to contain a weak link, but to be constructed entirely out of stupefyingly enormous mistakes and errors of judgement."- Harvey Pew
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Knight, I think the problem is all your outcomes under "flea withdraws" are that SSF and chelseafan are either mafia or town. There is no definitive outcome to the vote movements, especially as you state you are not going to force a lynch your move has no credibility. Especially your "C. Is town and = worthless " - if both SSF and chelseafan are town, how ischenhsi wrote:Is anyone besides knight42 NOT confused with his plan?notvoting to lynch another townie worthless?"The carefully constructed chain of events suddenly seems not merely to contain a weak link, but to be constructed entirely out of stupefyingly enormous mistakes and errors of judgement."- Harvey Pew
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Now that is purely unfair. To state simply that those who haven't claimed are scum is entirely specious. I have said I am in favour of a claim but, unlike your unilateral action, I have left it to my partner to decide if he agrees with me and so make the claim himself. It is unfortunate that my partner (and some others) have taken a low profile/forgotten about the game/been kidnapped by aliens/died/whatever, but to decide this makes us scum is entirely unfounded.Gimbo wrote:I say that at minimum, there are 2 scums below:
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The problem is the split between claiming on D1 or D2. Looking at O76 and in pre-game discussion me and my partner though early claiming would be helpful. But in this game there was a strong core of people, who I think may be town, who wanted to leave claiming to D2. So, as I said, rather than just deciding to ignore their argument I said, in forum, that I was willing to claim but that my partner could consider the vercacity of not claiming and make the decision. I was not going to railroad my partner into claiming.Gimbo wrote:Harvey: To me it seemed more like you were waiting for your fellow scum-buds and see if they claim, if they do, then you also claim. I recall that you never did claim until chenhsi basically fished your lover out of your post. It seems like there's exactly 4 player dead set on not claiming and for some reason, I don't think that's a coincidence.
I was fully aware that I kind of gave my partner away - except that chenhsi guessed thewrongone of the quieter players. Currently I have no lover ;( - until a replacement turns up."The carefully constructed chain of events suddenly seems not merely to contain a weak link, but to be constructed entirely out of stupefyingly enormous mistakes and errors of judgement."- Harvey Pew
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Well, I'm convinced, the scum-detecting prowess of the ascending colon is irrefutable. I will just mention that I have played/replaced in three mafia games so far and been lynched inChelseafan wrote:Harvey Pew... for some reason I’m leaning scum on this guy. Not a lot why, call it “gut” if you wanteveryone and been town ineveryoneandcorrectly voted scum in two out of three - a fine record, I think."The carefully constructed chain of events suddenly seems not merely to contain a weak link, but to be constructed entirely out of stupefyingly enormous mistakes and errors of judgement."- Harvey Pew
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I don't think the chances are that we have managed to correctly identify both scum pairs on D1. Gimbo's play is lunacy, but as a gambit? I'm not sure. Also my vote was a page 1 random thing and I'd like to re-read a little and think about it. So:
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^ Well after his initial gambits and the rush of anti-Gimbo sentiment, why not? Also due to my time zone/schedule I seem miss out on most of the action e.g. the rush down to L-1. Now he is at that point I suggest a momentary reprieve. Gimbo's play just seems too risky for the scum to try... although if he doesn't get lynchedandis scum it would be a tremendous coup."The carefully constructed chain of events suddenly seems not merely to contain a weak link, but to be constructed entirely out of stupefyingly enormous mistakes and errors of judgement."- Harvey Pew
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Bad? It isNameless wrote:that's not anywhere near a "fine" enough record to prove any kind of experience, being lynched 3/3 times is abadthingterrible. I wasjokingwhen I said my record was good, but also pointing out how often townies are lynched by other townies acting in all good faith."The carefully constructed chain of events suddenly seems not merely to contain a weak link, but to be constructed entirely out of stupefyingly enormous mistakes and errors of judgement."- Harvey Pew
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I have already explained this chelseafan. It was a random vote initially but I left it there after Gimbo's WIFOM/"I am scum" ploy. The votes on Gimbo increased over Eastern and Pacific time and then when it got round to BST I removed the vote.Chelseafan wrote:Harvey Pew's vote was still kind of random, which you'd think would be took off way before someone is at L-1."The carefully constructed chain of events suddenly seems not merely to contain a weak link, but to be constructed entirely out of stupefyingly enormous mistakes and errors of judgement."- Harvey Pew
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^ Sorry, lover, it is WIFOM, but I see Gimbo as justtoomad to be convincing scum. It was down to L-whatever on Gimbo but with only two pairs fully on and with Adel and Spyrex pushing but not voting. I needed more time to look at it so I removed my vote. I know it undercut your posts and I may rejoin you, but there are other suspects."The carefully constructed chain of events suddenly seems not merely to contain a weak link, but to be constructed entirely out of stupefyingly enormous mistakes and errors of judgement."- Harvey Pew
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^ I agree, kinda. Gimbo's play is completely mad, annoying and damaging. His lynching would produce a profound sigh of relief from everyone else in this game. He is just begging to be killed. And I can't believe the mafia is that big-balled to try a ploy like that."The carefully constructed chain of events suddenly seems not merely to contain a weak link, but to be constructed entirely out of stupefyingly enormous mistakes and errors of judgement."- Harvey Pew
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Votes on GimboAdel wrote:Who wants to do the leg work to disprove this?
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Unfortunately I think I missed a vote somewhere, but my next post post-lynch on mafiascum is at Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:21 am. I am hours out of synch one way or the other."The carefully constructed chain of events suddenly seems not merely to contain a weak link, but to be constructed entirely out of stupefyingly enormous mistakes and errors of judgement."- Harvey Pew
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I think he is just picking pairs who aren't him and meforbiddanlight wrote:Please give reasons for these suspicions."The carefully constructed chain of events suddenly seems not merely to contain a weak link, but to be constructed entirely out of stupefyingly enormous mistakes and errors of judgement."- Harvey Pew
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Sorry, but lol.Chelseafan wrote:Chenhsi has been quite franky a poor lover , his lack of effort is quite disapointing."The carefully constructed chain of events suddenly seems not merely to contain a weak link, but to be constructed entirely out of stupefyingly enormous mistakes and errors of judgement."- Harvey Pew
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What? Is that insulting, gnomic, cryptic? I really don't understand.Nameless wrote:perhaps once you've reacquainted yourself with your anus
As for my thoughts, everyone else seems to enjoy clawing at their chosen target by selective quoting in 1/2 page long posts so much that I didn't want to interfere. I have been reading these posts, but creating thesebillet douxis not a thing I do. I've placed my vote on the player that seemed to me to have played in a markedly unattractive manner on D1 and I'll leave it there until convinced otherwise. Also I'm waiting to see if Adel's super analysis will save the day, as in the previous polygamist game, or be some weirdly slewed stuff that will get her lynched.- Harvey Pew
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Chesea, I am impressed with your perseverance, but not by your aim.
You have been trying to put the boot into me and my partner since post9. Initially your "gut" told you to attack me but when you couldn't find a grip you switched your aim to the more garrulous Zeek.
Youcouldlook beyond me and Zeek, you do know that?- Harvey Pew
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Adel wrote:....Shy Guy is good, and I don't have anything against him that could hang him, and I doubt that if he is scum I'll ever be able to build a case against him in this game that will stick.
I don't know aboutNameless wrote:That's kind of a really bad conclusion.badbut itisa little doomy. We should just accept our fate?- Harvey Pew
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It is like one of those logic puzzles, where you have the statements and then a matrix to help you work it out. In theory you could break it down... speaking of which, whatever happened to that stuff we gave Adel?SpyreX wrote:Also agreed. I think what he said was, really, not helpful in the slightest but the IDEA of it holds merit.- Harvey Pew
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Apologies to all for my lack of activity in this game.
I've re-read the last few pages and I'm fairly happy with my vote on Skruffs (although I'm not so happy voting his partner--the problem of polygamy), with his promises of a big post and then nothing (reminds me of Adel's intimations of a game-busting analysis) and more his attack on Shy Guy'ssustainedassault on Adel as a gambit--although her recent vote flipping can't be a good thing. - Harvey Pew
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