Micro 897 [Game Over]

[eth0s]

first

[eth0s]

Please note the following change/tweak to the setup:
If a no lynch occurs, the jester automatically wins

this was my fault, I wanted to break the setup

[eth0s]

VOTE: doctor drew policy

[eth0s]

VOTE: ethos

Policy

Ya fuck off.....Big Balls has got my back

VOTE: ethos

Also.....and you are....?

Wow I actually mixed you up with someone else

VOTE: BBmolla OMGUS

[eth0s]

VOTE: ethos

Policy

Ya fuck off.....Big Balls has got my back

VOTE: ethos

Also.....and you are....?

also I'm the guy that tried to save the game in miccros when you fucked up by quickhammering and then we lost because Charles 510 (the guy who I originally mistook you for) threw down a fast vote in lylo while ignoring my claim to have a cop result

[eth0s]

It was an unfortunate one

[eth0s]

[quote="In post 15, Doctor Drew"][/quote]
I tend to like hydrae in general but idk who they are

Do you have a problem with hydrae?

[eth0s]

Eth0s, hear me out.....how do you feel about lynching the hydra?

I tend to like hydrae in general but idk who they are

Do you have a problem with hydrae?

[eth0s]

I am not a jester.

yeah likely story bud

VOTE: Blatant Scum

[eth0s]

Wait. shit. I'm supposed to NOT lynch the jester. Right. Back to my OMGUS then

VOTE: BBmolla

[eth0s]

Self-voting isn't even that bad of an idea tbh you beat me to it

hol up

[eth0s]

Self-voting isn't even that bad of an idea tbh you beat me to it

hol up

this was originally a silly/joke response but now I'm curious. What is your logic here, BBmolla?

I'm assuming you're being serious given the last half of your sentence

[eth0s]

oh you're jingle arent you

[eth0s]

I don't agree with a lot of the things said about me and also don't know why my jester equity is high

[eth0s]

Please note the following change/tweak to the setup:
If a no lynch occurs, the jester automatically wins

this was my fault, I wanted to break the setup

this should be proof enough that I have the lowest jester equity out of everyone actually. Unless you think I'm clever and cheeky enough to do something like this as jester (I'm not)

[eth0s]

VOTE: Bingle

[eth0s]

Bingle is obviously trying to play the team leader role in a strong arming way that a jester wouldn't. The only problem is his logic is fail in multiple areas and he's probably just scum trying to knock off the actual useful townies first

[eth0s]

prove me wrong

[eth0s]

A jester wants to get lynched. bingle is attempting to lead town and even throwing around statistics to back himself up. I think that makes him look especially unlynchable and I believe that he strongly wishes not to be lynched even though his methodology seems to be "lynch anyone who isn't jester"

so if he's not jester he should be fine with eating rope if town. Will see how that plays out though.

[eth0s]

i don't regret trying to wagon eth0s

then play your own game and vote me, stop making excuses

[eth0s]

trying to knock off the actual useful townies first

Talk to me about this, when you get a chance.

What part of Drew/BS is "The actual useful townies"?

"The actual useful townies" is me taking a stab at your motivation, but I thought the hydra was pretty useful in retrospect. Drew I don't feel very strongly about. I am thinking town or jester, but his jester equity is lower than BS, who has the highest in the game. Coincidentally I think BS has decently high scum equity as well.

I don't think you actually want to lynch BS for the reasons you've stated. But if a scum!drew lynch actually happens I'll eat my words.

I think it's totally within your range to call out the "scum bussing D3 is the play" thing and then lynch a scumbuddy BS on D3. I mean you've already set yourself up to hang him so it least it will show consistency.

The fact that you think I have the highest jester equity is baloney which makes me feel even better about your partnership with BS given the comment you made about him not being jester.

However if I'm right about BS being your scummate then either me or you is wrong about drew being jester so I'm going to check ISOs tomorrow and see if I still feel the same there.

[eth0s]

Oh drew got hammered. Not sure how I missed everything past 193 when I posted that but alright

[eth0s]

That sounds like a jester claim from him so gg

[eth0s]

I seriously don't understand why you would consider me to have higher jester equity than drew though

[eth0s]

Okay someone who isnt bingle but has a decent grasp on his meta/playstyle,

Am I paranoid or did he do something in recent posts that suggests he could be like a deep wolf jester? I still dont buy his play this game as being jester indicative but something pinged me the wrong way because I think it supports a viewpoint implied by someone else earlier.

[eth0s]

I need a few hours or an IRL day or so to say anything worthwhile. Still recovering from a bit of too much fun last night

[eth0s]

I still think BS jester equity is too high to lynch today.

[eth0s]

Hope you had a good night.

I still think BS jester equity is too high to lynch today.

He's like... towny... Also think him adhering to his gimmick so passionately is more likely to come from a pure mindset rather than one which is trying to either look like scum or look like someone who isn't tryna look like scum

this feels fucking stupid to type out at length

he doesn't feel agendaey

then why are you voting him

[eth0s]

VOTE: wooper

Low jester equity and his logic has holes in it in multiple places. If I weren't paranoid about Bingle's jester potential I would still rather be voting there.

BB's jester equity has jumped up a bit for me, but so has his towniness.

BS is still probably jester and lynching him today is stupid

rooroo and ofhrz I am dead null on. The latter needs to be prodded though.

I'm wondering if rooroo's play here is more likely to come from town or scum if not jester? I strongly feel not-jester towards the slot but he's put so much icing on it I am scared to pursue him on the day that I believe the jester is the strongest.

[eth0s]

On the whole I think wooper has the lowest jester equity in the game. Thoughts?

[eth0s]

What on earth are holes in my logic? I want receipts of that because I think you're trying to set me up for a d4-5 mislynch.

BS is the correct lynch today.

Well for starters you just called BS towny and you also want to lynch him.

And how am I trying to set you up for a future mislynch when I want to lynch you today? That doesn't even make sense.

[eth0s]

So "lynch town, but not me because I'm going to win in endgame". If you're 100% sure that you're town then it would make sense to advocate your lynch over BS, because you aren't 100% sure he's not jester?

If he's so pure and town motivated then why wouldn't you rather trust him in endgame and let yourself eat rope to ensure town doesn't lose? This is the big problem I have with your and Bingles' approach. It's bullshit and at least one of you is more concerned with lynching town than not lynching the jester, if not both of you.

[eth0s]

I'd prefer to do real scum hunting. Sure I can exclude lynching someone that I find scummy from if I think they have medium to high jester equity, but you just admitted to lynching TOWN as a preference. That's stupid. Mafia, especially with a jester, is too intricate to assume that anyone acting super towny is automatically not a jester. Like it's all WIFOM. Why pretend that someone that is playing like scum is more likely jester than someone that is playing like town? This just enforces a gamestate where everyone will act scummy to survive...

Letting wooper and bingle both go to endgame seems like a ridiculous idea. If a townie flips today and they're both alive then we have successfully allowed two people to pre-lylo that have played the entire game with an agenda of lynching town. How the fuck is town supposed to win in that gamestate?

[eth0s]

Let me be more level - are you willing to call Bungle to task in f5? You guys want me in endgame.

I don't know what you're asking

[eth0s]

Because (no offense)
if we're looking at a f6 of

eth0s/bbm/ruru/ofrhz/bungle/bs
I don't really trust my townreads in here to get their reads right. towniness/antisurvivalism is one thing - actually finding scum when the time comes is another.

Then why not just make a comprehensive readlist and offer yourself up as a sacrifice? If you really flip town then I'll sheep the list, and if you flip scum then awesome, I'm right.

I'm pretty sure most of the playerlist will agree that you're not jester, therefore making you one of the safest lynches. People think I am jester for some reason so I can't offer the same or else I would have already thrown a comprehensive list out and self-voted. The fact that you're being scummy really doesn't help your explicit unwillingness to die for the town when you apparently believe that other townies should.

[eth0s]

There isn't enough content to be 100% sure on the scumteam yet. Having a jester flip changes the landscape of how you read people's motivations in this setup. :/ I can't give a comprehensive readlist with any major degree of accuracy without knowing which slot is jester.

Guessing now I'd say bbm jester, and I'm starting to get paranoid of eth0s/bungle scum.

i mean even a conditional read list like "if x is jester and loses then y is scum"

yada yada

IDK why are you getting paranoid of me for pointing out how scummy your strat is? My problem with you is nearly identical to the problem I had with bingle and iirc you didn't really care about that. Now you're paranoid of me and him being a scumteam? I truly don't understand how that's your conclusion but you should be voting one of us rather than someone you find townie.

[eth0s]

Bungle mystically townreads you and I and says we need to endgame because we're both absolutely town; you have no issue with this until it gets time for the final lynch before the jester flips and suddenly you want me lynched. That reeks of an agenda.

What, haven't you both townread me all game? If I had an agenda surely I would be fine with going to lylo/pre-lylo with two people that townread me?

[eth0s]

eth0s flaking out when being called out is pretty telling :/

I guess going to get food is scummy now

[eth0s]

I'm literally a more obvtown version of Bungle this game. The only reason to lynch me over him is if you think he's the jester (yo) or you're his scumbuddy.

But much much more importantly: we need to lynch someone who is NOT A JESTER and isn't going to win this game in f5.

Ergo: BS.

He could be the jester. You definitely aren't. And you're scummy.

[eth0s]

VOTE: eth0s
p sure i'm right on the jester
we can do this today

it's funny to me that I'm scumreading you for having an anti-town agenda so you respond by voting for me acting like I'm a scumread.

Like me calling you out made you directly contradict your own shitty plan LOL

[eth0s]

How the hell do me and bingle read as a scumteam?! Can you cite some sources instead of just making things up?

[eth0s]

VOTE: eth0s
p sure i'm right on the jester
we can do this today

it's funny to me that I'm scumreading you for having an anti-town agenda so you respond by voting for me acting like I'm a scumread.

Like me calling you out made you directly contradict your own shitty plan LOL

and yet
bungle
who is pushing an identical agenda
but is scummier
gets a free pass
and you don't out a read on him as jester
until i call you s/s

LOL.

1 sec gonna prove you wrong on this

[eth0s]

Okay someone who isnt bingle but has a decent grasp on his meta/playstyle,

Am I paranoid or did he do something in recent posts that suggests he could be like a deep wolf jester? I still dont buy his play this game as being jester indicative but something pinged me the wrong way because I think it supports a viewpoint implied by someone else earlier.

i don't think that's being paranoid at all. don't lynch bungle until the jester is gone.

i think this speaks for itself

[eth0s]

Okay someone who isnt bingle but has a decent grasp on his meta/playstyle,

Am I paranoid or did he do something in recent posts that suggests he could be like a deep wolf jester? I still dont buy his play this game as being jester indicative but something pinged me the wrong way because I think it supports a viewpoint implied by someone else earlier.

i don't think that's being paranoid at all. don't lynch bungle until the jester is gone.

i think this speaks for itself

i don't think that kind of distancing is outside the average scumrange.

I'm talking about how you implied that you calling us a scumteam is what made me believe he could be jester.

[eth0s]

vote BS with me and if i'm wrong, we'll find out pretty soon.

well he's probably the jester, so no.

[eth0s]

Not jester: ofhrz, wooper, BBMolla, eth0s

Maybe jester: bingle, rooroo

Probably jester: blatant scum

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town/scum:

ofhrz

- dead null

wooper

- scumread

BBmolla

- townread

bingle

- scumlean

rooroo

- null/town

blatant scum

- null/scum (if not jester and town then wooper + ??? = scumteam; if not jester and scum then partner is bingle)

blue

is the only potentially acceptable place to lynch today as this is jester's strongest day. Obviously wooper takes precedence for scum/not-jester overlap but I'm willing to vote ofhrz if others want to, since I see absolutely no way a jester just plays a no-posting game. I'm not sure of his lack of activity is AI for his meta but I'm open to anyone's input there. BBmolla is an absolute last resort lynch for me and I'm not even sure if I'll vote it if he goes to L-1

[eth0s]

BBMOLLA IS CLEARLY THE JESTER LMFAO

i'm gonna need a case on this because BB doesn't read jestery to me.

[eth0s]

I am not a jester.

Even our mafia PT is more active than this.

rvs memes but i think these are worth checking at a really preliminary level; this is a gimmick account and he's playing to his shtick of being ~blatant scum~. If he actually *was* jester I'd expect some level of distancing from it, even at an unconscious level.

not sure I see your point

Must...resist...urge to...lolhammer ...DDM.

If his jester approach is drawing scum equity to try and be lynched as jester, not hammering here is a bizarre deviation from the strategy; imo this shows an inconsistent approach to the game which doesn't gel with the idea that BS is a jester.

has anyone even been chastised for hammering a townie this game? I'm pretty sure not. From jester point of view any lynch that isn't on yourself is a bad lynch, therefore I see jester equity in this even if you don't.

Bingle, so your strategy is to keep lynching every player with low jester equity until day 4?

Is it better to lynch comftown or random player?

Hmmm, so as town I actually should *want* to be lynched?
Interesting approach.

i think this conversation is slippy; if BS is jester and trying to get lynched he hasn't considered that the optimal way to be lynched is to look like you're trying to stay alive. if he's jester he's very likely playing to a more two-dimensional wincon which i don't really think he is because again, his earlier play is pretty inconsistent

in 255 you said "Blatant Scum - survivalism slipped; unlikely to be jester. probably a very small townread in a vacuum." am I misunderstanding your definition of a survivalism slip? If not, what do you really think and why has it changed?

Bingle's current playstyle is how I would be playing jester.

this is a strong intuition and something that comes from someone trying to solve the game in the moment imo, not push a longterm agenda.

again, jester!BS = any lynch not on himself is bad. Painting other people as jester is an easy way to ensure that person does not get lynched before D4. Therefore he is attempting to leave himself in the lynch pool while removing bingle from it. +jester equity. If you (woop) are really town then explain how this couldn't just as easily be an attempt at scum distancing? Up until this point I'm pretty sure scum!BS was never really worried about getting lynched. If he's scum then wouldn't he feel pretty safe making this post for distance?

Yeah, reread Drew Iso. I don't see a world where that is jester.

VOTE: Drew

Preferred lynch order remains the same. Drew > BS > legitimate scumhunting.

I am willing to lynch Drew.
If he flips scum, I am willing to lynch myself.
But if he flips town, I am not lynching myself.

this is a townpost from someone who doesn't know the setup well, or a scumpost from someone who is very good at this setup. it's not a jesterpost.

Can you explain your thought process here? There's too much WIFOM that can come from his post for me to feel nearly as confident about it as you do.

I mean, you didn't hit scum first 2 days.
If you lynch me today, town has 1/5 probability of victory (in case of random lynching).
Thanks to Bingle's interventions, wagonology probably won't work for first three days here. Mislynches neither.
We should lynch scummy person, even though if his/her jester equity is existing (but still low-medium).

allowing that you can clearly track that BS has been working thru how to play this setup well? this is a very towny post.

okay? So why do you want to lynch him again?

I would rather lynch 5% jester than obvtown...

ditto

Since when?

[eth0s]

okay rooroo isn't jester either

[eth0s]

Wish ya'll didn't think I'm the jester, I'd be best lynch today.

why

[eth0s]

Wish ya'll didn't think I'm the jester, I'd be best lynch today.

why

I think I've been the most unproductive and difficult to read of the townies.

as evidenced by everyone being absolutely convinced that I am the jester

I don't think you're the jester. But I do think scum is the best lynch today. I'm assuming you simply used a poor choice of words if you agree with the last sentence. Otherwise.. ???

[eth0s]

Wish ya'll didn't think I'm the jester, I'd be best lynch today.

why

I think I've been the most unproductive and difficult to read of the townies.

as evidenced by everyone being absolutely convinced that I am the jester

I don't think you're the jester. But I do think scum is the best lynch today. I'm assuming you simply used a poor choice of words if you agree with the last sentence. Otherwise.. ???

every person who I think is mafia could also be jester.

Well I think you're wrong to change your read on wooper. What do you think of his jester equity?

[eth0s]

the only person i have as a fringe scumread who probably isn't a jester is eth0s, who is mostly scum through associatives with bungle, who i think is scum or jester. :c

I literally don't understand how I could be scummates with bingle

[eth0s]

dead game? or is it just due to the site running like crap

[eth0s]

and I don't see why you think I should be held to a read I had 150 posts ago.

Further, look at my activities this game. I have been lynching probable jesters, this is true.

Are you talking about "probable jesters" in hindsight, or are you saying that's how you felt in the moment?

[eth0s]

probable notjesters

dw this was clearly a typo

@bingle okay disregard my last question. I thought you were either admitting bad judgement or claiming jester

@wooper are you calling this a jester slip?

[eth0s]

Also, if ruru is town here she's been actively gamethrowing all game

I don't think this is correct. It's something I'll reflect on once jester flips but she made a certain statement that stands out to me.

[eth0s]

UNVOTE:

eth0s hmu when you're around

yes?

[eth0s]

I’m not Jester, I think y’all are dumb as shit if this is what you honestly think my jester play looks like

I get the funnest role in the game and then play under the radar with weak reads?

You fucking serious?

You don't think this is an optimal jester strategy? I don't think a jester would want to play super scummy because then it'd be obvious that they're jester but would want to be scummy 'enough' where other players would consider lynching them and an under-the-radar type of gameplay would work well for that.

aaronfrost managed to word my own thoughts more elegantly than I could, and I actually see more jester equity in BB now than I have all game.

[eth0s]

Bbm/jungle how confident are you two in reading each other?
Eth0s talk to me about notjester!BS please I don't agree

I feel I've already been pretty clear here. And I think it's jester!BS, not notjester!BS, what are you asking exactly?

[eth0s]

I don't think this is correct. It's something I'll reflect on once jester flips but she made a certain statement that stands out to me.

Could you maybe point it out now?

Okay, I think it's time for me to claim, since I'm already practically outed. I am the jester and I intend to work with scum. To the scums: Please let me know who is town so I can vote them. You may signal me one town player's name discretely once per day. Thanks and have a nice day.

This post makes you sound too invested in the outcome for a jester. I’m calling bs on this.

I'm invested in you calling bs

Why as jester do you make a post about helping scum? It looks town indicative that you’re trying to trick them. If you were genuinely trying to help scum, you wouldn’t draw attention to it like you did. I was in Shirley remember? Blackjack were town doing their damndest to jester it up.

If you see where I'm going with this then you should understand why I won't elaborate further until jester flips.

[eth0s]

If we aren't gonna do wooper I can live with with this

VOTE: aaronfrost

[eth0s]

I still need to look into rooroo and who could have partner equity with aaron.

I'm leaning bingle or BS as scum for standalone reasons but I want rooroo's scumreads along with reasoning.

BBmolla is my only somewhat confident TR

[eth0s]

I still think bingle has the highest scum equity and finding a partner for ofhrz/AF is near impossible because the slot was basically non-existent.

I was looking to see if any scum fell for rooroo's "trick" and didn't see anything. However I still feel like rooroo vs bingle is a gamble. If rooroo is scum here she doesn't seem to mind the pressure at all even though it would be gg. Doesn't look great from vca but what bingle said about bussing a scummate D3 makes sense.

[eth0s]

wooper and bingle following basically the same strat, then wooper flipping jester also pings me. Like I had them pegged as a potential team but the two of them being non-town still makes perfect sense here I think.

Wooper probably thought the "lynch all town" strat was scummy too. But not only was he playing that way, I believe Bingle was the first to bring it up? Regardless of what Wooper thought of bingle's alignment I think wooper knew lynching town to d4 was an anti-town strat and sheeping it would raise his chances of being lynched.

[eth0s]

BS I don't feel too strongly about anymore since he can't be a team with Bingle, but this interaction pings me

I am not asking for a full clear, but give me at least a few town credits for being on him for the whole day 3.

Actually compelling argument, but I'm not going back to reread today.

Bingle saying that after this is weird

Eh, I feel I’m fairly obviously not_mafia at this point, but that’ll only matter if we hit 5p lylo, tbh.

mind blown

If you want mind blown, best scum strat is probably hard bussing at 3rd lynch.

[eth0s]

VOTE: bingle

[eth0s]

if you're town and familiar with the setup why would you play an intentionally scummy way?

[eth0s]

I'll be on my pc in like 12 hours. Still think bingle is the best lynch today but I'd like to take another look at BS and BB ISO's when I can

[eth0s]

I read BB and BS ISOs and don't really see anything to case out right now. I mean BS was basically a more subtle rooroo while jester was alive, and most of my reasoning for him!scum fell apart when aaron flipped scum.

BB's content I don't really have much to say about either.

I think we just lynch bingle because that probably wins us the game. If it for some reason doesn't, I'll dig deeper and try to case something out. Pretty sure it's just BS if bingle flips scum though. In retrospect it makes pretty good sense for BS to be scum since rooroo flipped green.

I guess I don't really care what order we do it in. If we do BS first and the game is still going then bingle will presumably just be trying to get me to lynch BB and vice versa so I don't really think the order matters.

I just don't see a world where BB flips scum. The ISO is so dry I wouldn't mind some input from bingle since you two seem to know each other.

[eth0s]

leaning bb scum? why

[eth0s]

I'm confused by BS right now. Didn't you just call bingle scummy then vote BB? Or am I misinterpreting something?

[eth0s]

Why is BB scum regardless

[eth0s]

Eth0s you really just need to figure out one Townie and lynch the other two

I thought I already did that

[eth0s]

VOTE: bingle thought I was already voting this

[eth0s]

eth0s, how much do you think that Bingle is scum?

I think you both have decent scum equity but his is a bit higher. "How much" I think he is scummy is a weird question.

Better question.
In duel me vs BB, what are the chances you lynch BB?

Again, "chances" is weird. Are you wanting percentages or something? 'Cause I dont do that.
I'm pretty sure my last 10ish posts answer both of these questions for you anyway.

[eth0s]

Honestly BB's latest posts are the first thing to really ping me in a bad way.

I'm not sure if it's the "pretty sure it's bingle but idk so I'll sheep you" or just the general concept that I'm being sheeped/hard-TRed for reasoning I dont even understand.

Like as scum, sure, call me a universal town read and I'll eat that shit up, wolf like crazy, and send the town on a death mission pedal to the metal.

But as town it gives me the creepy crawlies like why are 2 of my 3 remaining lynch options saying to sheep me and so sure I'm town in pre-lylo?

Obviously they cant both be scum. But seeing as how I dont even understand why I'm being steeped by both of them, I dont think I can relate to it or use past experience to identify the motivation so I have no idea if scum is more likely to be treating me like a normal player (like bs) or treating my like my reads are law (like bb/bingle).

[eth0s]

God dammit BS now I dont even know what to think anymore

[eth0s]

Like all things considered I'm pretty sure bingle gets lynched today. And if someone else gets lynched he gets lynched tomorrow. It makes the most sense to lynch him.

But bs I still want you to explain scum!molla to me and BB I'm interested in why you're saying that it's probably bingle but still wanting to sheep me

[eth0s]

Like all things considered I'm pretty sure bingle gets lynched today. And if someone else gets lynched he gets lynched tomorrow. It makes the most sense to lynch him.

Well, if there would be a tomorrow.

Theres just too much paranoia around his slot for me to personally feel okay with not lynching him in lylo. It kinda seems like people have quietly agreed on this

[eth0s]

Why the hell would we kick off lylo by voting

[eth0s]

Almost every scenario I imagine ends with me lynched today

why

eth0s where you at in terms of reads

I still think BS has a better chance of flipping red but it's like both of you have gone out of your way to be hard as fuck to read this game. BB posting looks more genuine and I know gut isn't the greatest tool in LYLO but on a superficial level BS flips scum over BB here every time.

[eth0s]

why

both of you are leaning me as scum but not voting me

can whoever is scum just vote me PLEASE

Dude I think you have massively misunderstood my stance on you. And I 100% think that as scum theres no way you would read my posts that effortlessly or try to pass it off as such instead of just trying to work with me on your final mislynch.

So if you're scum, congrats and that's one hell of a fucking mind game.

I intend to vote BS in the next 24 hours if he doesn't produce a good reason not to.

[eth0s]

Did Aaron townread his partner or scumread him

that is the fucking question

Aaron's ISO doesn't really tell me anything. You and I are the only living players left he even really conversed with. As in more than a line or so. His limited interactions with BS seems sketchy but I could be confbiasing that

[eth0s]

I believe this is the extent of Aaron interacting with or mentioning any of our 3 slots.

I am not a jester.

Convincing

Bingle's current playstyle is how I would be playing jester.

This might be jester. How is Bingle's playstyle here optimal for jester?

I don't think eth0s or Bingle are ever jester here.

I think BS or BBmolla are most likely to be jester and should not be lynched.

What on earth are holes in my logic? I want receipts of that because I think you're trying to set me up for a d4-5 mislynch.

BS is the correct lynch today.

Well for starters you just called BS towny and you also want to lynch him.

And how am I trying to set you up for a future mislynch when I want to lynch you today? That doesn't even make sense.

It makes sense to lynch town in this setup though at least until D4 when we're guaranteed to be in lylo. That's when we should start the scum!hunting. Right now we need to be jester!hunting so we know who not to lynch.

I think players who are survivalistic are more likely to be scum in this setup since both them and their partner want to make it to D4. This is a weird situation where town shouldn't be too concerned with getting mislynched for the first three days at least and should focus more on lynching not jester.

I think BS or BBmolla are most likely to be jester and should not be lynched.

And you wanted to lynch me!

And I said this where?

I’m not Jester, I think y’all are dumb as shit if this is what you honestly think my jester play looks like

I get the funnest role in the game and then play under the radar with weak reads?

You fucking serious?

You don't think this is an optimal jester strategy? I don't think a jester would want to play super scummy because then it'd be obvious that they're jester but would want to be scummy 'enough' where other players would consider lynching them and an under-the-radar type of gameplay would work well for that.

Actually as a matter of interest - if you had to pick a lynch today who would you pick? other than yourself ofc

there's not really a good option

the ofrhz replacement probably, didn't get jester vibes from their replace in

Hi I have a name.

[eth0s]

So for you, BB, I dont think you'll find this answer.

Did Aaron townread his partner or scumread him

that is the fucking question

I think 388 and 389 are the best insights for you and BS. Either Aaron's scum partner was not likely to be jester (me, bingle) or likely to be jester (bb, bs).

This obviously doesn't help me sort either of you since you both fall in the latter category but hopefully it will help you guys read me/each other.

obviously from my POV I know the partner is in the "likely to be jester" category, which makes sense as it helps to weaken a wagon on them while jester is alive, but if you have a differing opinion I'm all ears.

[eth0s]

This game is getting really boring and I continue to feel more confident about scum!BS.

Probably putting a vote down before bed after I make sure there's nothing left I want to address.

[eth0s]

Eth0s, do you want me to break you scum!BS arguments?

Go ahead. Idk why you've been basically ignoring that I think you're scummy for the last few days though. Like why wait til now to defend yourself?

[eth0s]

unbroken as in things that haven't been like disproven?

Honestly I don't have much to go off of. This game is dry and incredibly boring and you mainly look scummy due to PoE, whereas BB's thought progression seems genuine enough throughout the game. He's seemed pretty lost, bored, and apathetic this game. Never really appeared to follow an agenda. You haven't seemed to follow one either but AF's interactions look worse with you and if scum!BB really played the mindgame I spoke of in 648 then I think he just wins.

[eth0s]

In other words, you can't find a way how to sort us, so you are using your gut to read us.
Gut reads are nearly impossible to change.

Are you around?

It's more than a gutread. I don't claim that it's necessarily a

strong

read of the situation but this game has been pretty low effort and hard to confidently sort. To put it bluntly, I feel more confident in a BB townread than I do in a BS scumread. You (BS) really haven't done much this game to make me feel good about you. BB has done a couple of things that I'd find highly unlikely to come from scum (clever as they may be) and that's what's ultimately making me feel semi-confident in your scumflip.

Anyway this game is dragging on forever and nothing of value is really being said. BB, I'd like to hear your thoughts on BS and me. Do you have anything new to contribute and what are the main factors leading into your reads? If BB has nothing valuable to add then I fully intend to make my final decision and vote.

[eth0s]

BS I'm sorry if this is gamethrow but if you're town you made this really hard on me.
VOTE: BS

I read both of your ISOs and the only new thing I have to contribute is that BS voting BB Day 5 (especially while seemingly keeping bingle open as an option) looks really bad. You knew bingle was going to get lynched eventually. You never laid out solid reasoning for BB scum. You (all) have given me this conftown status and BS especially looks guilty of keeping everyone but me around as a lynch option.

A word of advice (assuming I'm right), BS, if you wanted to go against the grain you should have voted me instead of BB and tried to come up with some good reasoning. I'm particularly weak to WIFOMy shit like that.

[eth0s]

In retrospect I'm not sure how to feel about this win. All I did was replace in, make a bunch of bs reads then get lynched immediately

I'm good with the PT being released.

trying being bitmap replacing into the vengeful and instantly quickhammering a townie and dying

Hey I'm the townie

[eth0s]

BS I'm sorry if this is gamethrow but if you're town you made this really hard on me.
VOTE: BS

I read both of your ISOs and the only new thing I have to contribute is that BS voting BB Day 5 (especially while seemingly keeping bingle open as an option) looks really bad. You knew bingle was going to get lynched eventually. You never laid out solid reasoning for BB scum. You (all) have given me this conftown status and BS especially looks guilty of keeping everyone but me around as a lynch option.

A word of advice (assuming I'm right), BS, if you wanted to go against the grain you should have voted me instead of BB and tried to come up with some good reasoning. I'm particularly weak to WIFOMy shit like that.

U troll eth0s

Honestly I did NOT see BB vote before me.

No disrespect intended guys, sorry if it came off that way. I thought I still had to secure BB's vote lol

[eth0s]

Vote Count 6.FINAL

blatant scum (2) ~

bbmolla, eth0s

bbmolla (1) ~

blatant scum

With 3 alive it's 2 to lynch

deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-27 12:00:00)

mod notes:

-

blatant scum was a

vanilla townie

bbmolla,

vanilla townie,

has been endgamed

the scumteam of

eth0s and aaron frost

wins!

the game is now over; i'll link pts momentarily.
scum have about 24 hours to let me know if they want any redactions before i open the pt

Release PT is fine with me

[eth0s]

i thought eth0s's hammer of aaron was really really really scum indicative and i was lowky surprised that nobody picked up on it, imo

Me too tbh

[eth0s]

In retrospect I'm not sure how to feel about this win. All I did was replace in, make a bunch of bs reads then get lynched immediately

I'm good with the PT being released.

I think what you did in the short time you were here was good. You gave away no association to me and replaced in a suboptimal slot at an unfortunate time. Hate that I had to bus you but it felt necessary

[eth0s]

I thought bingle was gonna wreck me this game. And I think he played well. I feel incredibly lucky and confused why I was so highly townread. It felt like a domino effect where people just continued to accept it because others did

[eth0s]

Thanks BB. I think you played well and genuinely did come off as townie to me. Ik I'm biased but I still think I woulda TR'ed you.

Wooper was all over the place the last day but tbh I wanted to lynch him real bad so fmpov whatever he was doing was working :/
Maybe that's because I was scum though.

[eth0s]

Like all things considered I'm pretty sure bingle gets lynched today. And if someone else gets lynched he gets lynched tomorrow. It makes the most sense to lynch him.

Well, if there would be a tomorrow.

Theres just too much paranoia around his slot for me to personally feel okay with not lynching him in lylo. It kinda seems like people have quietly agreed on this

this is me attempting to cover up a scumslip btw