Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[Wooper]

oh now I am reading page 105
UNVOTE: hold on a min new towncore forming aaron/adorbz/kerset

[Wooper]

Am I the only one seeing Fetchd/skitter team right now? Like Fetchd blocking skitter is a bad move regardless of their alignment. UNLESS they're scum together and they're attempting to bus each other. Like I think Fetchd is smart enough to know that skitter's not going to be doing the kill after yesterday and that he's better off going for one of the VT claims.

And why exactly did skitter check Fetchd? There were better slots to check in my opinion.

The fact that they targeted each other does not feel like a coincidence to me.

Also crossed my mind but sirf lookin worse than skits/sirf

[Wooper]

VOTE: Sirfy

[Luca Blight]

I have a plan

[Wooper]

tw > kerset
luca
aaron/adorable
sirf/suji/skitter soft PoE pretty sure this wins

Kerset if you're paranoid abt me I'd like for you to speak up pls

[Wooper]

I have a plan

let's go what's the plan

[Luca Blight]

We lynch Fetchd today, there are then no more roleblockers in the game.

Skitter investigates Suji, Frost investigates Adorbs or Wooper.

Frost is most likely killed, but Skitter will have a result. If Fetchd flips green (unlikely) then we lynch Skitter to confirm the result.

Between Skitter/Fetchd there is surely at least one scum. By the time they're both dead the game is basically solved by PoE.

[Luca Blight]

We established at the end of the previous day that Town!Flubs meant Skitter was more likely town. Fetchd then blocks the best PR left which is just anti-Town in general, because even if we were to lynch Skitter today that info could have proven valuable.

VOTE: Fetchd

Why wouldn't Fetchd block me then? My power is arguably more useful than skitt's.

Why exactly does Flubb flipping town make skitter more likely to be town again?

If you were blocked then Fetchd would be confscum.

He might have got away with blocking Skitter as she was heavily scumread Yesterday.

[Luca Blight]

Yes, I made that point already.

Regardless of his read on you, jailing the gunsmith claim in this setup is a terrible play and scum-motivated imo.

Not if she is confirmed scum, which she is.

My other option was the jk ss or Aaron to try and block the kill but to block an investigative with lower scum chance than skit is a worse idea when there's only a 50% chance of protecting the right one.

The whole point of killing Flubs before Skitter was that we'd get another result from Skitter before we lynched her, and you denied us of that.

Skitter will still probably be lynched, but you have to go first.

[AaronFrost]

Not if she is confirmed scum, which she is.

Likely scum =/= confirmed scum. Like yeah I agree that skitter looked really bad yesterday, but I hate the use of the phrase 'confirmed scum' where it doesn't apply.

[AaronFrost]

We lynch Fetchd today, there are then no more roleblockers in the game.

Skitter investigates Suji, Frost investigates Adorbs or Wooper.

Frost is most likely killed, but Skitter will have a result. If Fetchd flips green (unlikely) then we lynch Skitter to confirm the result.

Between Skitter/Fetchd there is surely at least one scum. By the time they're both dead the game is basically solved by PoE.

And I got a clear on Kerset too which helps us PoE.

I agree there's at least one scum in skitter/Fetchd. Could be both.

I'd be okay with lynching Fetchd today.

[TheWizard]

Sirfetchd (3):

Luca Blight, skitter30, Wooper

Kerset (1):

Adorable

Not Voting (4):

Sirfetchd, Sujimichi, Kerset, AaronFrost

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-12-04 22:58:00)

[AaronFrost]

If you were blocked then Fetchd would be confscum.

He might have got away with blocking Skitter as she was heavily scumread Yesterday.

I mean Sirfetchd blocking skitter is also kind of a scum claim. Like I think he's smart enough to know that scum skitter wasn't going to do the kill after being highly suspected the day before. He'd have been much better off going for whoever he thinks skitt's partner is and the play just doesn't make sense from a town perspective.

[Luca Blight]

skitter30,
Wooper
Adorable
Sirfetchd,
Sujimichi,

There're two scum in these 5 players. Most probably 2 out of Fetchd/Suji/Skitter.

Skitter investigates Suji, Frost investigates Wooper/Adorable, then we are guaranteed at least one result. Skitter is the probably lynched regardless of Fetch's flip, but we will reassess first depending on the situation.

Other than that, I have nothing more to say. I'm 100% on lynching Fetchd today.

[AaronFrost]

I'd like to hear from Fetchd why exactly he targeted skitter first.

Same with skitt, I'd like to hear why she targeted Fetchd.

[Adorable]

We lynch Fetchd today, there are then no more roleblockers in the game.

Skitter investigates Suji, Frost investigates Adorbs or Wooper.

Frost is most likely killed, but Skitter will have a result. If Fetchd flips green (unlikely) then we lynch Skitter to confirm the result.

Between Skitter/Fetchd there is surely at least one scum. By the time they're both dead the game is basically solved by PoE.

If Sirfetch flips scum and Skitter clears Suji tonight, that still leaves Skitter as a suspect along with Wooper.

[Luca Blight]

If Fetchd flips scum then we have the luxury of lynching Skitter to confirm her result on Suji.

[AaronFrost]

I'm intending on voting Fetchd today but I want answers to my questions first.

[Wooper]

v happy w that plan of attack

[Kerset]

Hell no
If we lynch fetch, then we are at lynch or lose tomorrow. Skitter result will be pointless. On other hand if fetch manages to block kill then we will have double result and no lylo.

[Wooper]

fetch is also like a full cop if we're in a world w/o scum rb
he's also the only one able to effectively mess w cop/gs results
still think we should lynch him :u

[Kerset]

Let's say that skitter give us red flip on suji. Are going to follow it on lylo?

[Wooper]

it guarantees 1-2 scum in {skitter,suji} so it's super valuable

[Luca Blight]

Hell no
If we lynch fetch, then we are at lynch or lose tomorrow. Skitter result will be pointless. On other hand if fetch manages to block kill then we will have double result and no lylo.

Fetchd is literally the one who has put us in this situation by blocking Skitter last night. He is independently the most scummy player right now, and the JK power is dangerous in scum hands due to potential WIFOM.

If he flips green (big if) then we can reassess again Tomorrow with Skitter's result in hand.

[Kerset]

You didn't call JK scum pick yesterday and as far as I recall JK was statistically picked by town.
I can totally see the idea behind jailing skitter, he was SR and didn't expect to be jailed.
VOTE: skitter