Open 83 - Polygamist Mafia (Game over!) before 628

[somestrangeflea]

/confirm!

[somestrangeflea]

/way so many old faces....does MS only have like 20 members or something??

No, it's because you are in, quite possibly,

all the games

.

[somestrangeflea]

Can't we still start the random voting anyway?

NO

[somestrangeflea]

1 to 11, top down.

Original Roll String: 1d11

1 11-Sided Dice: (7) = 7

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Vote: Chelseafan

You can't argue with dice...

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omgus

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Yeah, massclaim at LyLo-D2 makes sense, I guess...

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I guess that makes sense.

Yeah, massclaim at LyLo-D2 makes sense, I guess...

FOS MafiaSSK, somestrangeflea

for bland agreements. (The bland attempts to follow the town that is, not their actual position on massclaiming)

Giving further evidence to support a decision which has already been made is pointless.

[somestrangeflea]

if we don't massclaim, then even town pairs might not vote together

Even if we do massclaim, I see no reason why me and my lover should always vote the same way...

thus its going to be much more confusing.

No more than any other game of Mafia...

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no u

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...

Did we just claim scum?

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The best is, regardless of alignment, I KNOW flea is probably shaking his head.

/me shakes head.

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Why do you think flea is voting for his fellow mafia member? The only reason you think they are mafia is because they claimed.

Why should Chelseafan's vote change because you voted for him?

If you really think we are scum, why don't you vote for Gimbo, who has more votes and is closer to being lynched?

I think flea is currently voting for his fellow mafia member because the vote is him of suspicion.

False. It can be confirmed that I am voting chelseafan because a random number generator told me so.

Even at that, the reasoning makes no sense. You think I'm voting my Mafia buddy because I'm under suspicion?

1. Gimbo WIFOM, claims scum along with flea
2. Chenshi and Chelseafan quickly follow suit

That's not true. Chenshi and Chelseafan haven't claimed scum. YOU LIE.

4. People suspect of Gimbo, votes accumulate (none from the possible mafioso)

Why can none of the votes on Gimbo be from Mafia?

If flea withdraws:
A. Both are mafia
B. Flea is mafia, trying to perhaps frame chelsea
C. Is town and = worthless
If he stays
A. Mafia and dumb at the same time
B. Town and innocent thus clearing the likes of gimbo

This whole section doesn't mean anything at all, because both "Flea withdraws" and "Flea stays" have "Flea is scum" and "Flea is town" as outcomes.

Why would flea withdraw his vote if he is a town?

Because I don't think he's scum, simple.

Because if we find go through with the lynching of Chelseafan, and he is innocent, I will thus reveal my partner leaving us with an easy win!!!

You assume we trust you...

'm just rather confused at the plan that's all.

It proves nothing from what I can see.

It proves nothing, and, even working under the assumption that everything KNIGHT says is true, I still don't know what it proves...

[somestrangeflea]

Unvote

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I don't see how I am 'accusing' anyone of anything since 2/6 and 2/6 means its really equal probability.

But an equal probability scumsplit isn't a fair assumption.
It's not fair to say that, because the players have been divided into two groups, an equal number of scum are in each group, as it completely ignores the most important question: "What would scum do?" If the scum think it's better not to claim, then they won't. If they think it's better to claim, they will. You cannot treat logical decisions in the same way as random choices.

In short:
It's not fair to assume that 2 scum have claimed and 2 scum haven't because the decision to claim wasn't random.

You see what I'm trying to say?

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I say that at minimum, there are 2 scums below:

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Harvey Pew
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Now that is purely unfair. To state simply that those who haven't claimed are scum is entirely specious. I have said I am in favour of a claim but, unlike your unilateral action, I have left it to my partner to decide if he agrees with me and so make the claim himself. It is unfortunate that my partner (and some others) have taken a low profile/forgotten about the game/been kidnapped by aliens/died/whatever, but to decide this makes us scum is entirely unfounded.

May I assume that he is Firestarter than, because he hasn't posted for 2 days and is the least active among those who have not claimed yet?

Hmm. I think that's fishing...

Vote: chensi

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SSF is accusing you of trying to expose who are lovers together, despite his partner doing that repeatedly as well as trying to get everyone to claim.

SSF what do you think of you partner puting so much energy into identifying who is a lover with whom? Rolefishing much?

I'm going to use the "It's not fishing if it's not subtle" argument here. Gimbo is outright requesting the information, whereas chenhsi was somewhat more subtle, by assuming and being far less demanding in order to coax the information out...

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/takes a bow despite not really doing anything