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[Wake1]

Well idk

Only thing for me to go off right now

So you'd rather sheep than read the game or ask questions?

I am reading the game from here

Ok Wake why did you jailkeep profii?

I jailkept my Scumspect but didn't realize what the Loyal modifier did.

I thought your scumspect was eibirn, not profii?

No, it was Profii.

[Wake1]

Its possible, its just that means there's too many 'named townies' effectively.

How much, in your opinion, is too much?

Knowing my role, I know you pursuit of this angle will blow up in your face. Considering the roles flipped/claimed have primarily been specific, there being more of them is certainly possible. I don't think this argument that there's too many named Towniea has merit.

[Elements]

The two night three PR claims does seem dubious to me, but why would scum fake claim in this game if one of them is scum?
Scum!alimdia sees wake PR claim and an opportunity for a mislynch by counter claiming however this then throws suspicion on him for the next day lynch. The only way I see this being the scum is if there was a traitor in the game who is likely to win a a 4 player mylo. Which I don't think is the case.
Scum!Wake as the only scum left takes a gamble and claims night 3 PR. Specifically jailor. Not night killing and jailing a player people are finding suspicious left him set up a mis lynch and then revoke that he push them as scum with the good old "They must have been attacked then." But he didn't do this so town points there.

Wake: Why do you think Profil was attacked or is scum even though we've had no night kills on either of the other nights?
Alimdia: Why do you not want to reveal what role you are? You are already in contest with the N3 so if someone claims your ability later for you to counter claim, which I'm assuming is why you're not, it looks doubly bad on you.

[Wake1]

I think it's kind of hilarious, because you're saying it's not possible for there to be two N3 PRs so my unpressured claim is not legitimate, yet Alimdia's vague claim somehow is?

[Elements]

I think it's kind of hilarious, because you're saying it's not possible for there to be two N3 PRs so my unpressured claim is not legitimate, yet Alimdia's vague claim somehow is?

The progression of the post is "Two night 3 abilities seems dubious -> neither claim seems like a good scum play"

[Eve]

Let's not play guess the setup

Let's just judge then for how they've played this game

Who's actions have been more scummy? Vote that one

[Saladman27]

That's the thing though, everyone's been equally scummy.

[profii]

I'm not going to vote someone because someone else has said 'I'm a bit dubious of that claim'

If you can convince me that person has done something scummy, I'm listening.

[UltimatePlank]

That's the thing though, everyone's been equally scummy.

wot

[UltimatePlank]

Saladman can you give me a reads list pls

[UltimatePlank]

in fact i don't think saladman has provided an actual read all game

[UltimatePlank]

oh right he's only provided town reads and never actually scumreads anyone apparently

[UltimatePlank]

BUT hes okay with quickhammering on looker when his lynch looked inevitable, however he voted anyone BUT looker beforehand on day1

i think people actually need to reread day1

[UltimatePlank]

that includes you Eve.

[alimdia]

I will re-read Saladman's posts when I get home.

[alimdia]

I only claimed because I was a little dubious about Wake's claim. so I guess here is my full claim.

I am Town Night 3 doctor. To have a JK and a doctor on the same night? idk I was suspicious, so I pushed wake really hard about his claim.
I protected Elbirn last night. I am not notified if my ability failed or not (I asked the mod)

My breadcrumb on Day 2 when I saw that nobody died:

Alright guys, I'm posting all my reads now, partly because if there isn't actually a

doctor

out there, I won't make it til Day orl

Night 3

. If there is, please protect me again.

I specifically said Night 3 when it should really be Day 3 in order to crumb. I said the no doctor part to crumb and WIFOM scum.

When I saw nobody died, my first assumption was that there was
Night 1 doctor, Night 2 doctor and Night 3 doctor. That was quickly proven wrong when Vorkuta flipped however.

If we think its possible to have a night 3 loyal JK and doctor, then I'll look at saladman as mentioned when I am free.

[Montosh]

VC 4.1

Wake88 (3):

Elbirn, Saladman27, Eve

(L-2)

Elbirn (2):

profii, Wake88

Eve (1):

Elements

Not voting (2):

UltimatePlank, alimdia

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-12-09 02:15:00)

[Wake1]

I'd be open to pressuring Salad.

[alimdia]

That being said, do unvote Wake so theres no fast hammers and what not. And also so we can scrutinize more people

[alimdia]

As in people unvote on wake

[UltimatePlank]

id rather see you give thoughts on saladman wake, rather than just be 'open to voting him'

why?

any reason beyond the fact that it's...not you?

[Wake1]

id rather see you give thoughts on saladman wake, rather than just be 'open to voting him'

why?

any reason beyond the fact that it's...not you?

Well, to set the record straight, I said I'd be opening to pressuring him.

[Wake1]

*open.

[alimdia]

BUT hes okay with quickhammering on looker when his lynch looked inevitable, however he voted anyone BUT looker beforehand on day1

i think people actually need to reread day1

Zote the mighty aka Eve:
Looker 'conceded' to Zote that saudade was likely town.
Zote had a lot of fluff content on Day 1, heavily defended Looker.
Zote was also worried that Profii hammered him at one point

Re-reading Saladman, indeed he only has a scumread on Saudade very early on in post 300, then basically nothing.
He did hammer Looker but said it was a prod dodge later.


Town reads in no particular order:
Plank
Eibirn
profii

[alimdia]

The only reason I thought wake is town was because he was the counter-wagon to Looker, but even Looker didn't want to vote Wake and looker instead tried to counterwagon on someone else.

Plus his JK claim. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF