Mini Normal 2111 [Game Over!]

[AaronFrost]

VOTE COUNT 1.11

tictac [3]:

Gamma Emerald, MariaR, Dunnstral

Wake88 [0]:

Skellen [0]:

Flavor Leaf [3]:

UnaBombaH, Non lmh, tictac

skitter30 [0]:

Garmr [1]:

skitter30

january [0]:

MariaR [0]:

Dunnstral [1]:

Saudade

Non lmh [1]:

Flavor Leaf

UnaBombaH [0]:

Gamma Emerald [1]:

Garmr

Saudade [0]:

Not Voting [3]:

Wake88, january, Skellen

With 13 in play, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-12-21 22:10:00)

Notes

- skitter30 is regularly V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays
- Wake88 is V/LA until 12/18
- Sweet pagetop dude

[Gamma Emerald]

tic tac is probably town

Why

Because they dont feel like scum

Una is probably town too

VOTE: garmr

Dont forget that fl is scum if i get murderized in the night ^

I very much disagree on TikTok
He’s reactive, fluffy, and is not taking pressure well

[MariaR]

@MariaR
Sure what makes my tic tac read interesting and what parts do you want to discuss?

What makes someone seem like ‘ml bait’ to you. This is a pretty broad statement I see a lot so I wanna see what makes someone ‘ml bait’ to you. Whenever see have an easy lynch I always see that statement go around, so what’s your reason?

Also MariaR what do you think about Una soft claiming masons with you?

Why would I ever answer this question?

Saudae and Jan feel pretty blindly stupid. I mean that in a good way though, like I don’t see an agenda in the posting. I think Tic tac looks pretty bad though.

ow but thanks i guess

what exactly do you mean by an agenda? do you think scum will have an agenda already?
and: do you think it's possible for town to have agendas too?

basically
how do you tell someone's scum from having an "agenda"?

Scum always have an agenda town sometimes don’t, that is the key. I know I as town have an agenda in fact, most of the time I do. But with your and asds back and forth I didn’t see an agenda. Most of the time even when scum try to hide that fact they rear it’s head in one on ones. I didn’t see anyone try to win the argument, mostly just useless fighting.

dont tell me how to play my game

You’re being anti town and flooding the page with mostly nonsense. It’s not fun. You should at least try to control yourself for others.

Okay, guys...since you totally seemed to have it go right over y’alls heads...

My reads prior to my LNT was fake because I was baiting people onto my wagon.

Okay you’ve baited me into thinking you’re scum until you change my mind gl.

‘Let me try to bait people by acting a certain way to get votes on me’
?????????????? What kind of logic is-like-wat this isn’t needed. I get reaction tests I do them, but you don’t do it like that because it’s just a waste of time.

[MariaR]

Also,

Maria

, I said out of context because I had read that post earlier and my first reaction was like “ew no”

*Thumbs up*

Because you’re blatantly mason fishing and given what happened that game I would definitely expect you to not do that.

Pro tip this is more likely to come from town than it is as scum because scum don’t wanna draw aggro but ay that’s just my take.

Page 24 skitter announce with FL feels real. Don’t know what that implies, but since FL is scummy that makes kitter towny.

yeah, fl-jan-una is my solve,, GE has a false positive on fl
k, I had fun, lynch me,, LYNCH ME
if you're town, LYNCH ME, but only if you're really town
VOTE: Non

Oh we really be having fun now aren’t we.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf
Given how much he’s posted and how much people talk about him this is the best lynch by far.

I could get on a few others Like Saudade I like that wagon.

[MariaR]

Una and Non are people I'd also vote. But yeah there's a catch up woo.

[Gamma Emerald]

How does your given reasoning equal Flavor being scum/a good vote? You’re aware he’s claimed a Cop-like role, right?
I think I’m TRing your play rn though, Maria

[MariaR]

How does your given reasoning equal Flavor being scum/a good vote? You’re aware he’s claimed a Cop-like role, right?
I think I’m TRing your play rn though, Maria

Honestly, I 100% forgot that he claimed cop during my second/rn catch up because I'm a bit tired but, I don't think he's true claiming and it's NAI for him. For my reasoning, a lot of people have interacted and talked about FL and FL has a ton of posts on his own. If he's scum? That's so much information for us to go off of. If he's town? Still a shit ton of information to go off of. If I was hard tring FL I wouldn't vote him but considering he's scummy I like the vote.

I'm a bit confused why you're townreading me since I feel like I could've put a lot more effort into my catch up and just....didn't but I'll take it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Your effort is low but your heart seems to be in the right place

And I can see the validity of that reasoning, but seeing as Flavor is a townread of mine + TikTok’s counterwagon I’m very against that lynch happening.

[Skellen]

This is such a weird game.

I am probably still in for a FL lynch, even although he seemingly quitted for real.

My already stated doubts about his role being town aside rereading him I also don't get his progression on the skitter slot. It looks weird to me that he got his early gut townread on Robb because of something completely nai, yet after skitter repped in he scumread her later with the argument that scum!skitter is townie and that people would never lynch her because she is obvtown yet literally the majority of the playerlist is saying that her slot is town because of Robb's rep-out and even bother to outline it is not because of skitter herself.

@Una:
What do you think is scum!FL's game here with his claim? While I see the claim as scummy I don't see any use in it for scum!FL either.

[Skellen]

@Una:
And again, care to explain your progression on tictac? I don't get how you went from being on the fence about him with leaning rather town to thinking he would be an ok lynch when you just thought he might be town. Or was the town tendency only because you are suspicious of the people on his wagon?

[Skellen]

@Garmr:
What is it that is bothering you about Gamma? By going through your ISO it feels it's mostly for his reasoning for voting you and maybe his reasoning for voting tictac(?) and by certain interactions. Why do these come from scum and not "bad town"? Not really getting the scum vibes there.

[Skellen]

I am unsure about tictac. Was mostly skimming his posts because these quote walls are difficult to read, looking now more at them I am surprisingly mindmelding with him on some subjects (mostly regarding FL), these seem to be the most substantial statements of him.

I can see the scumreads for the wagon hopping and especially the way he dealt with his Saudade scumread though.

I am not sure though if I get the reactionary argument. I would have assumed it is for only responding in these quote walls with comments, however looking at some of his games that seems to be the norm, just that he seems to be more abrupt with his comments here. Do you think he is lacking any initiative here, Gamma? Your reasoning in #256 kind of suggests (to me at least) that it is rather for his style of posting just looking unreadable/fluffy?

[Saudade]

Adding Skellen to my townbloc

[Gamma Emerald]

I am unsure about tictac. Was mostly skimming his posts because these quote walls are difficult to read, looking now more at them I am surprisingly mindmelding with him on some subjects (mostly regarding FL), these seem to be the most substantial statements of him.

I can see the scumreads for the wagon hopping and especially the way he dealt with his Saudade scumread though.

I am not sure though if I get the reactionary argument. I would have assumed it is for only responding in these quote walls with comments, however looking at some of his games that seems to be the norm, just that he seems to be more abrupt with his comments here. Do you think he is lacking any initiative here, Gamma? Your reasoning in #256 kind of suggests (to me at least) that it is rather for his style of posting just looking unreadable/fluffy?

I haven’t seen much initiative or expansive content in his wall, no. And I wouldn’t call his style unreadable, but I’d say it’s a stylistic argument, yeah.

[january]

i'm not sure tictac is scummy here; i feel like their play here is comparable to the newbie, actually

i reread the newbie game (viewtopic.php?t=81110&f=50 if anyone wants it i guess)

and i do think at least tictac's walls this game seem somewhat consistent
i guess i just had some vague impression that they were different i guess
so this part of my gut read is wrong i guess

but in that game i felt like tictac was infinitely more active
in terms of post counts too (mostly NAI i think), but more like pushing on ppl and trying to get answers to questions and stuff
this game feels a lot more reactive and lacks the active pushing stuff and i feel like that's how tictac would play as scum
i guess it could be that this is a larger game? i'll try to find something else to compare w/

thoughts on this would be appreciated if anyone has em

[january]

so far all my scumreads in my two games have been wrong so i'm kinda hesitant to actually make one
but there's definitely a different tone in this game and i don't think his play here is consistent with the newbie

i tend to make townreads and and scumread based on PoE better
i guess probability-wise it's more likely to have a correct townread but.. eh

probably bombed the final but i'm still here yay

[Garmr]

@Garmr:
What is it that is bothering you about Gamma? By going through your ISO it feels it's mostly for his reasoning for voting you and maybe his reasoning for voting tictac(?) and by certain interactions. Why do these come from scum and not "bad town"? Not really getting the scum vibes there.

I been contemplating it but it feels weird gamma would scum read me for that after all we been through together he knows my personality is the type to do that as both alignment and he never had a point to scum read me after that.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Garmr:
What is it that is bothering you about Gamma? By going through your ISO it feels it's mostly for his reasoning for voting you and maybe his reasoning for voting tictac(?) and by certain interactions. Why do these come from scum and not "bad town"? Not really getting the scum vibes there.

I been contemplating it but it feels weird gamma would scum read me for that after all we been through together he knows my personality is the type to do that as both alignment and he never had a point to scum read me after that.

I was kinda eager to see this response because it looked like your SR on me had cooled a while back so I wanted to see whether you were holding onto that read
I am starting to warm up to being town rn

Also, I have an associative read that is based on TikTok’s flip that I want to state but not state whom it’s on or what it is

[january]

didn't realize FL said he's not coming back lol

this isn't consistent lol

I got an ego, but I’ll put the game victory over everything still.

so i'm gonna say he's faking it and i have no idea why he'd do it as town OR mafia

now come back and explain thx (:

[Gamma Emerald]

Wot

[january]

wot wot

is that directed at me

[Gamma Emerald]

He only said it’s for the day phase
I feel like he does that a lot actually, maybe it’s a meta lead I can try
Pretty much the way you meta Flavor is you catch him once with a tell and he instantly fixes it
He’s like Mr. Freeze in Batman: Arkham City

[Gamma Emerald]

Wasn’t really at you, more at what you said

[Dunnstral]

Also, I have an associative read that is based on TikTok’s flip that I want to state but not state whom it’s on or what it is

So you don't want to state it then

i'm not sure tictac is scummy here; i feel like their play here is comparable to the newbie, actually

i reread the newbie game (viewtopic.php?t=81110&f=50 if anyone wants it i guess)

and i do think at least tictac's walls this game seem somewhat consistent
i guess i just had some vague impression that they were different i guess
so this part of my gut read is wrong i guess

but in that game i felt like tictac was infinitely more active
in terms of post counts too (mostly NAI i think), but more like pushing on ppl and trying to get answers to questions and stuff
this game feels a lot more reactive and lacks the active pushing stuff and i feel like that's how tictac would play as scum
i guess it could be that this is a larger game? i'll try to find something else to compare w/

thoughts on this would be appreciated if anyone has em

so far all my scumreads in my two games have been wrong so i'm kinda hesitant to actually make one
but there's definitely a different tone in this game and i don't think his play here is consistent with the newbie

i tend to make townreads and and scumread based on PoE better
i guess probability-wise it's more likely to have a correct townread but.. eh

probably bombed the final but i'm still here yay

Interesting, kind of.

Also, maybe you should focus on finding town and working with other people instead of finding scum

Skellen, I don't have an opinion on you

tic tac is probably town

Why

Because they dont feel like scum

Una is probably town too

VOTE: garmr

Dont forget that fl is scum if i get murderized in the night ^

Unfortunately you're not very convincing with this

[january]

He only said it’s for the day phase

yeah but
he's currently got the most votes on him

and he's just like "bye i'm out"