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[skitter30]

I thought he waa scummy.

I no longer particularly think he's scum, but i want to pressure him to do stuff

Not sure he is the best lynch today.

[tictac]

It kind of reads like a pissing contest who would be able to outguess the other. Tbh I don't think skitter has reacted in a scummy way. Considering we already have one dead town investigative (and additionally with scum knowledge about setup) I would actually assume that scum!skitter would be hard-boiled enough to give a clear answer here instead of refusing an answer, and refusing any answer makes sense from town!skitter's point of view.

there was nothing really garm had to guess about, and skitt refused to guess the correct answer
disagreed w refusing making sense from town pow.

as for skitt being hard boiled:
here is scum!skitt losing a game for being risk-averse.
from same aftergame:
wariness of surprise guilties as scum.
why she would be opposed to leaf-lynch as scum: built in excuse for not dying.

Suji, january, how do you both read tictac?

No differently than yesterday.

went back and looked.
yer one stated opinion on me is 'somewhat tied to skitt', something I would have expected her to comment on if she also went back and looked.
so kinda begs the question: Why did she ask about yer stance on me if it didn't interest her enough to do an ISO and find out.

[skitter30]

Oh i knew that would come back to haunt me one day

[skitter30]

I dropped the fl thing since at eod i thought he would protest more if he were scum

[Saudade]

kill dunnstral already everyones bored of this game tbh

[UnaBombaH]

I got totally caught off guard by a beautiful representative of the opposite gender - my apologies!

[UnaBombaH]

the gamestate + ease of wagon kinda makes me think dunn is town, tbh

~ I'm sitting in a room, made up of only big white walls..~

I'm starting to think that the earlier "if Dunn = scum, skitter = scum" vs "if Dunn = town, skitter = ?" means that skitter is just scum.

@skitter

- Can you make us not lynch Dunn? And where do you think people would reasonably flock over to?
I'm OK with Garmr/january, whether you like it or not..

[UnaBombaH]

just lynch dunn and if hes town then hes town lmao

Want to call me noob again?
I just might vote Dunn if you really make it hurt..

[UnaBombaH]

january is still obvtown

garmr is still scummy

i feel like voting him again
the other people who are good votes: dunn, una, tictac, wake

VOTE: garmr

OK, now THIS I didn't foresee..

@Saudade - get in on some of this.

We lynch Garmr today.
If they flip town, there's nothing to stop a Dunn-lynch tomorrow.
Followed by a red flip and a skitter-lynch.

And if Garmr flips scum..well.
Scumdade much?

Wanna go?

VOTE: Garmr

[UnaBombaH]

Merry Christmas, Skellen/UnaBombah. And the rest of you. And Dunnstral.

Probably off-topic, but I'm curious about the wording and order of this post.

[UnaBombaH]

VOTE: tictac

[UnaBombaH]

why is wake town?

+

~reasons~

+

Huh

Just .... huh

+

tictac you animal lmao

=



But an interesting read straight out the gates nontheless.
Whenever you feel like delving into any of those ~reasons~ feel free to do so.
I guess the gamestate might benefit from something like that.

[UnaBombaH]

I thought about this game a little bit, I believe Skellen is most likely to be scum here

VOTE: Skellen

Well, at least it's an original comeback.
Not very much I guess, but original.

I hope these two pairings aren't your suggested suspects, because these are literally almost all my townreads.

If you townread all 4 of

garmr-saudade / skitter-january

, then I'm starting to get worried.

The more this day continues the more I get similar vibes from you as in our last game.

I sincerely doubt it.
Bad-town!Una is nothing like "trying-my-best-to-win"-scum!Una".

The latter is likely a better scumhunter too...

You saying this here makes me think my gut-feeling on you might've been warranted..?

Considering you were on Maria/Looker at "Fl and/or Maria" for D1 why did this read moved rather into the background now?

Because I messed up my read on Boon completely.
I threw all of that into garbage, and started my reads fresh while diving some ISO's separately.
I'm going to read Looker/Maria-slot some day, but it isn't this day.

[UnaBombaH]

I think you're scum. Discuss

I'm not sure why you haven't pushed for my lynch hard then?
I'd argue I'm notoriously easy to mislynch, so there shouldn't be much of a resistance..
You see, already in this game I've been wondering why I'm not getting many votes yet.
And I've got a feeling that scum want me around for a day or two more, just to get that one easy mislynch to achieve/win LyLo.
I'm a prime candidate after all - I made my silly gambit-y plays around Boon, and misjudged him completely.

All I can say is that the more time and posts the scum-team give for me to analyze, the better I can help town.
So either do it soon, or don't even bother.

[UnaBombaH]

Could someone summarize why Dunnstral is the preferred lynch today other than his lack of activity?

I'd argue it's the lack of activity, sure, but even more the INABILITY to help town in any way so far.
I've got a feeling I remember their previous avatar (that is how I most accurately remember and separate players from each other), and they are very much a capable town-player.
No idea how being scum would affect their activity though - my meta-knowledge isn't extensive.

It's entirely his lack of activity

Sure, why not.
Disregard everything I rambled above.

[UnaBombaH]

kill dunnstral already everyones bored of this game tbh

Sure, I think I want to go that route now anyway.

VOTE: Dunn - bye bye.

[Looker]

I was expecting a claim and maybe a replacement - he's active in other games.

[AaronFrost]

VOTE COUNT 2.07

tictac [1]:

skitter30

Wake88 [0]:

Skellen [1]:

Dunnstral

skitter30 [1]:

tictac

Garmr [0]:

january [1]:

Sujimichi

Looker [0]:

Dunnstral [5] [L-1]:

Skellen, Saudade, Garmr, Looker, UnaBombaH

Sujimichi [0]:

UnaBombaH [0]:

Saudade [0]:

Not Voting [2]:

Wake88, january

With 11 in play, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-01-02 22:00:00)

Notes

- skitter30 is regularly V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays.
- Dual Mod ISO

[Wake1]

Finally done with Christmas madness. I will be looking over this thread shortly.

[Wake1]

I'm getting Townvibes from Garmr. Consistently he's been active and doesn't seem to care that much about self-preservation.

Skitter I don't know to be honest. She's been active and clawing at things for awhile now, but I've never played with her when she was Scum, so I don't have that information. Currently I'm thinking she could be Town. This being said, activity does not equate to alignment, despite so many conflating the two.

Obviously this mean that both Garmr and Skitter could be Scum despite being active and asking questions.

Saudade's being annoying and pugilistic, so that probably means he's Town. As with Skitter I've never played his Scum-game.

One thing I don't like is how Skitter keeps defending January. January could very well be Scum, but if they were both Scum it'd be stupid to hard-defend/Townread your partner like that. If Skitter is Town she should have more doubt in these games, so I don't understand if I'm being honest. Related to this, I'm liking Sujimichi's skepticism.

On January I can't really tell. Part of me thinks she's Scum, but if she is all I have is my gut. And I don't think Looker should be Townread so easily.

I keep forgetting Tictac, Una, and Skellen exist. Dunnstral is barely around.

It wouldn't surprise me if both Garmr and Skitter were TvT. I'm not inclined to lynch either.

I feel like Tictac is more reactionary, but that's NAI.

Also there's a Mailman in this game. I was sent a letter last Night.

As for Dunnstral I'd like to know why he's voting Skellen. Despite her lack of presence I'm not interested in voting her today, unless you have an actually good reason for it. Speaking of Skellen after reading her posts I'm Townreading her, so her lynch isn't happening today.

Someone please tell Skitter activity is NAI.

Is Dunn still at L-1? I refuse to vote him, but I think at least a claim is in order.

[january]

wrote out a thing and when i went to submit, got logged out instead... grr ):
breaking it up into parts now so i don’t lose it again

read on looker:
i don’t believe the thing about not knowing that votes didn’t reset with replacement. it’s much too convenient of an excuse to me, and i think i was right earlier about looker’s intro being a little bit awkward
i would have believed it more if looker said they didn’t see the vote log at all. but if they saw the name of the person they replaced voting FL... why, as town, even assume that votes would reset? i would be safe and unvote anyways, and from my exp that’s what everyone else has done...

@tictac / @UnaBombaH:

Why should I vote Flavor Leaf?

this makes 0 sense to me. who would join a game, and (presumably without reading on their own) ask two random players why they should join a wagon - which they happen to already be on... convenient much?

sure, let’s say the vote was actually an accident (kinda hard to believe, but just for the sake of it). say looker didn’t know they were voting FL at the time.
1. why ask tictac and una in particular? did you have a townread on them?
2. why ask someone to give you reasons to join the FL wagon? feels to me like mafia trying to get someone to give them an excuse to join a wagon on town

imo, this is either some bizarre PR soft or some sort of mafia distancing/wifom strategy that will only really make sense upon looker’s flip or some sort of explanation that i want before the end of today in case someone flips on dunn

[UnaBombaH]

Is Dunn still at L-1? I refuse to vote him, but I think at least a claim is in order.

This makes no sense to me.
Absolutely refusing to vote, but asking for a claim?
That's just rolefishing.
In to the scumbin you go.

[Garmr]

Is Dunn still at L-1? I refuse to vote him, but I think at least a claim is in order.

This makes no sense to me.
Absolutely refusing to vote, but asking for a claim?
That's just rolefishing.
In to the scumbin you go.

I think scum are less likely to blatantly role hunt than curious town.

[Wake1]

Is Dunn still at L-1? I refuse to vote him, but I think at least a claim is in order.

This makes no sense to me.
Absolutely refusing to vote, but asking for a claim?
That's just rolefishing.
In to the scumbin you go.

You'd rather Dunn not claim at L-1, to possibly prevent a mislynch?

If so, perhaps you ought to put yourself into that Scumbin.

[UnaBombaH]

You'd rather Dunn not claim at L-1, to possibly prevent a mislynch?

You asking for a claim when you

refuse

to vote him, means that his claim doesn't affect your voting at all.
Hence, his claim shouldn't be of any interest to you.

You wanting to hear a claim makes me think one of two scenarios.
1) You are scum, and know he is town. Therefore you can position yourself like this. Not gonna vote, but hearing a claim is still helpful to you.
2) You are in the same scumteam, and you want him to make a claim that might get him out of the pinch.

And therefore, scumbinned.