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This is a lot of posts for one day.

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@tictac / @UnaBombaH:

Why should I vote Flavor Leaf?

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Oh no, it's you. Is it too late to replace out?

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I fucked up. I didn't know that votes didn't reset when you replaced in.

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Also, thank you, Sujimichi - you have one of the more readable ISO's in the player list.

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Boon and Gamma apparently DID have a reliable "soulread" on each other.

Skitter/Dunn are the ones I'd look into tonight if I had that power.
And Saudade musn't get a free pass. I do not know why he came across obv.town to me.
And lastly Skellen.
Their posting is pleasant and feels "good", but I think(?) I might've been fooled by that before as well.
Not sure - I'm gonna do a search for games we've played together, and fact-check.

What's a soulread? What do you find suspicious about Dunnstral?

[Looker]

Is there a quota to how many times I have to ask a question before it gets answered? Also, who/what is Boon? (x100 if there really is a quota)

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Boon and Gamma apparently DID have a reliable "soulread" on each other.

Skitter/Dunn are the ones I'd look into tonight if I had that power.
And Saudade musn't get a free pass. I do not know why he came across obv.town to me.
And lastly Skellen.
Their posting is pleasant and feels "good", but I think(?) I might've been fooled by that before as well.
Not sure - I'm gonna do a search for games we've played together, and fact-check.

What's a soulread? What do you find suspicious about Dunnstral?

Dunn says nothing of value in his ISO.
Not sure why he's scum though.

I dont like how skitty vote hops so often, its like shes trying to find a counter wagon to dunn and save him

So let's assume Dunn flips scum - skitter looks scummy based on the vote-hopping?
Now let's say Dunn flips town... Skitter looks towny because..?

I'm intrigued now.
VOTE: Dunn

Are you suspicious of Dunnstral or are you suspicious of Skitter?

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Boy I cant wait for Dunn to come back and weigh in on all this

What's the play if he lurks/ V/LA's until the wagon loses interest? It's hard for me to decipher conviction through all these pages. What's the case against him?

[Looker]

I overestimated the significance of the soul read comment.

I dont like how skitty vote hops so often, its like shes trying to find a counter wagon to dunn and save him

So let's assume Dunn flips scum - skitter looks scummy based on the vote-hopping?
Now let's say Dunn flips town... Skitter looks towny because..?

I'm intrigued now.
VOTE: Dunn

Are you suspicious of Dunnstral or are you suspicious of Skitter?

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It would be very tasty cool beans if my fences were to be in the right places.
Something like garmr-saudade / skitter-january.

What do you mean by fences? Are you asserting potential scum pairs?

[Looker]

Also, I only play this game when my life is in disarray and I need a distraction. This time it's a permanent change of station.

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Do you have me confused with someone else? Maybe that was a joke.

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VOTE COUNT 2.04

Who is this beautiful imposter?

Suji, january, how do you both read tictac?

townier than maria/dunn
probably same level as garmr? ish?

t > s
skitter > saudade > Sujimichi > Una > Skellen > Wake > tictac > Garmr > Dunn > looker

Are these reads or are you answering a question with a question? Also, can you provide justification for this "t > s" because your ISO doesn't line up with these assertions.

i'll explain that but in the middle of something rn

I'm not accustomed to statements like these being actually followed up, so I'm hoping you prove me wrong and surprise me.

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I'm not going to say who, but I'm waiting for a certain player to post.

[Looker]

Merry Christmas, Skellen/UnaBombah. And the rest of you. And Dunnstral.

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VOTE: Dunnstral
You should claim your role.

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I'd hope you'd have a case on me since you put me at the end of your townscum spectrum. I'm still awaiting your follow-up as well.

i changed my mind about wanting dunn, i think

l-1 again btw

What was your stance before and what is your stance now?

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I was expecting a claim and maybe a replacement - he's active in other games.

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Guesswhat im going to claim boys

Big-dicked mason?

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I TR tictac's hammer. I'm also leery of skitter forcing the claim order. Why?

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I just wanted info. Wake wanted a claim but wouldn't vote; I was comfortable with voting. Seeing him post in other games kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

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reading

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VOTE: looker
someone join me i gave my reasons yesterday and nothing has changed

also i’m holding back on claiming til later
take that however u want (:

wrote out a thing and when i went to submit, got logged out instead... grr ):
breaking it up into parts now so i don’t lose it again

read on looker:
i don’t believe the thing about not knowing that votes didn’t reset with replacement. it’s much too convenient of an excuse to me, and i think i was right earlier about looker’s intro being a little bit awkward
i would have believed it more if looker said they didn’t see the vote log at all. but if they saw the name of the person they replaced voting FL... why, as town, even assume that votes would reset? i would be safe and unvote anyways, and from my exp that’s what everyone else has done...

@tictac / @UnaBombaH:

Why should I vote Flavor Leaf?

this makes 0 sense to me. who would join a game, and (presumably without reading on their own) ask two random players why they should join a wagon - which they happen to already be on... convenient much?

sure, let’s say the vote was actually an accident (kinda hard to believe, but just for the sake of it). say looker didn’t know they were voting FL at the time.
1. why ask tictac and una in particular? did you have a townread on them?
2. why ask someone to give you reasons to join the FL wagon? feels to me like mafia trying to get someone to give them an excuse to join a wagon on town

imo, this is either some bizarre PR soft or some sort of mafia distancing/wifom strategy that will only really make sense upon looker’s flip or some sort of explanation that i want before the end of today in case someone flips on dunn

• You can check any fucking game where there's been a replacement and the replacement gets a clean slate vote-wise.
  
• They were literally the first three names on the fuckin votecount. He'd clearly done something to get run up to L-1

You're wasting my time, bro.

VOTE COUNT 1.16

tictac [0]:

Wake88 [0]:

Skellen [0]:

Flavor Leaf [6] [L-1]:

UnaBombaH, tictac, MariaR, Skellen, Dunnstral, Sujimichi

skitter30 [0]:

Garmr [0]:

january [0]:

MariaR [2]:

Garmr, Wake88

Dunnstral [4]:

Saudade, skitter30, Flavor Leaf, Gamma Emerald

Sujimichi [0]:

UnaBombaH [0]:

Gamma Emerald [0]:

Saudade [0]:

Not Voting [1]:

january

With 13 in play, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-12-21 22:10:00)

Notes

- skitter30 is regularly V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays
- Have a replacement lined up for MariaR, just waiting to hear back from them

[Looker]

VOTE: skitter30 stop pretending like you're the boss around here

This so much.

Looker are you here

I was spending time with people who love me.

this is taking way too long
happy holidays everyone

i’m loyal motion detector, got motion on skit n1 which clears her as town
was softing + crumbing that on day 2
have fun finding the crumbs if you want, i’ll point em out later
u have no idea how hard it was to come up with reasons to townread her as a soft... i could have sworn she was scum after d1 lol

no result on looker n2 which is why i’m voting them
gave them a chance to claim ascetic or whatever the role is that roleblocks whoever visits them but no more waiting

actually pretty sure maf has a roleblock or a million of them
odd setup but i think it’d be way too unbalanced without some way to counter loyal modifier
night kill will probably be me but if there’s a protective role save me

anyways that was fun
let’s vote looker now pls

This is bullshit. Unless she's relying on a "mafia roleblocker" to cover this story up, I find this an incredibly daring play. I'm a VT; I can't do shit. I'm not a setup speculator, but I do know my role.

With the timer paused on NYE,

she's

technically not due to be prodded for another (expired on 2020-01-03 14:28:00)

I can prod her early but it won't count as an official prod unless she doesn't post before she would've been due for one.

Give a guy a break, man.

Also, you prod me before Wake? What's up with that?

[Looker]

Sorry for being grumpy.

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@Looker:
Regarding tictac:

Why do you tr the hammer?

I think it was obvious we were moving in that direction and I think trying to come off towny by not hammering is scummier.

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I want my greenflip to guarantee a jan lynch - I don't want a cop-out of "mafia roleblocker"

You can check any fucking game where there's been a replacement and the replacement gets a clean slate vote-wise.

uh, no. i don't think this happens ever.
can u link a game u got this idea from?

You got me. I just went back through ten years of games and couldn't find a single instance. I remember it happening, but not nearly frequently enough for me to be as confident as I was.

VOTE: Wake88

[Looker]

anyways on that topic..

i'm

actually

pretty sure maf has a roleblock or a million of them

odd

setup but i think it’d be way too unbalanced without some way to counter loyal modifier

night

kill will probably be me but if there’s a protective role save me

only
so the looker soft-guilty thing was fake to get some kind of reaction

tbh not exactly sure what I was expecting but felt like i had to do something besides just claim normally (lol)
i expected the vote today to be between me and looker but there's nearly no traction
i think this is maf anyways but his partners are trying to get the lynch onto someone else

I don't like how convenient this is, but I'm extremely biased. If Skellen had not challenged you, at what point would you have revealed that you were

actually fucking lying

.

I think I already know where I want to go:

VOTE: Garmr

got tells me that Creature may be lookers scum partner this is my initial reaction.

VOTE: Looker

Is this some kind of indirect OMGUS?

[Looker]

I want my greenflip to guarantee a jan lynch - I don't want a cop-out of "mafia roleblocker"

VOTE: Wake88

I don't understand this. By this post you basically suggest to lynch january after your town flip, certain that she is scum, yet you are voting for Wake? Why? Obviously you weren't considering it as a gambit from town and Garmr was already on january and it isn't really settled yet if her claim is true or not.

My priority was wake. He doesn't post unless you vote him. Also, I'm still processing the endgame of the fake guilty - what was the objective? She hadn't admitted that she was lying at that point. I don't get it.

[Looker]

Also, I'm still processing the endgame of the fake guilty - what was the objective?

I would still like this answered. If the only objective was to get me lynched, then she's scum. I'm not seeing some masterful town scheme taking place here.

comments on this would still be good.

I think he just had the meme sitting around and wanted to use it. I didn't think that was actually being used to clear somebody.

[Looker]

Suji, january, how do you both read tictac?

townier than maria/dunn
probably same level as garmr? ish?

t > s
skitter > saudade > Sujimichi > Una > Skellen > Wake > tictac > Garmr > Dunn > looker

Are these reads or are you answering a question with a question? Also, can you provide justification for this "t > s" because your ISO doesn't line up with these assertions.

i'll explain that but in the middle of something rn

I'm not accustomed to statements like these being actually followed up, so I'm hoping you prove me wrong and surprise me.

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yeah i dont think garmr and tictac are scum..........
maybe skitter and skellen are both scum claiming masons together.....

but that would make me mafia too

are you calling me mafia

A paranoid misogynist's worst nightmare - an all-female scumteam.

[Looker]

1 day until deadline
VOTE: Saudade

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Looker is an enigma to me. Like the wagon has only little resistance which makes me feel bad about it, not even survivalistic behaviour, but there isn't coming anything noteworthy from him. Instead that Wake vote, fingerpointing at jan and finally that awful Saudade vote. Like I can overlook Wake's vote if I ignore logic, but that's nothing redeeming.

A bigger enigma is how someone can fake a guilty, get caught, confess and have no heat thrown their way by anyone. No one will even tell me what the purpose was. Is this because I thought votes reset when you replaced in? I don't think an honest mistake should outweigh a vindictive exploit. But, hey, don't mind me; I'm "awful".

[Looker]

Looker is an enigma to me. Like the wagon has only little resistance which makes me feel bad about it, not even survivalistic behaviour, but there isn't coming anything noteworthy from him. Instead that Wake vote, fingerpointing at jan and finally that awful Saudade vote. Like I can overlook Wake's vote if I ignore logic, but that's nothing redeeming.

A bigger enigma is how someone can fake a guilty, get caught, confess and have no heat thrown their way by anyone. No one will even tell me what the purpose was. Is this because I thought votes reset when you replaced in? I don't think an honest mistake should outweigh a vindictive exploit. But, hey, don't mind me; I'm "awful".

hm but i didn’t “get caught” and frankly i think you’re purposely misrepresenting me and ignoring what i’ve said (lol sound familiar, garmr?)

i could have just kept the claim of guilty on u

and we’d honestly be in the exact same spot. except you’d be lynched faster
but i didn’t
not sure why you’re portraying that as scummy when i have basically no reason to retract it as scum

if you’re town i guess i’ll say sorry but i won’t really mean it because you haven’t even attempted to towntell so it’s really on you

But

why

do it in the first place? And that towntell jab is null.

I am mason, skitter approves of me

[Looker]

What are you using that smiley for unvote you unwise collaboration of dipoles

via Imgflip Meme Generator

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Don't backpedal. If you're saying I'm scum, say I'm scum. Once I flip, i want accountability. I haven't given up for a reason.

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Tell me about it

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VOTE: Frank

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Wait, that's the wrong game

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I thought keeping the encryptor around was worthless because we never used the scum chat and I never used my 1-shot

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I was about as discontent with her as you were with skitter

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Especially when they didn't kill skitter when i wanted

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I thought the kill on UnaBombah was more individually survivalistic than strategic for scum as a whole. Oh well.

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That and I don't want people submitting kills involving me - I submit my own kills. The whole thing was a learning experience.

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Subject: Mini Normal 2111 - Mafia

I'm not wise enough to contribute adequately.

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thanks for the mod

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