Mini Normal 2111 [Game Over!]

[Creature]

Just don't kill me tonight D:

[skitter30]

probably doesn't come from scum!creature ^

[Garmr]

probably doesn't come from scum!creature ^

Skit town reads creature scum creature confirmed.

[skitter30]

that's starting to become a little bit annoying

[Looker]

Tell me about it

[Saudade]

Did we lose

[AaronFrost]

Vote Count 3.10

tictac [0]:

Wake88 [0]:

Skellen [0]:

skitter30 [0]:

Garmr [2]:

skitter30, Creature

january [0]:

Looker [4] [L-1]:

january, Garmr, Saudade, tictac

Creature [0]:

Saudade [2]:

Wake88, Looker

Not Voting [1]:

Skellen

With 9 in play, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-01-08 10:39:00)

Notes

- skitter30 is regularly V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays

[Garmr]

that's starting to become a little bit annoying

may be annoying but it's most likely true

[skitter30]

garmr my reads are literally never holistically that bad, and i have a 5 person pool that i'm p damn confident contains all scum, so please stop with the potshots

i don't know exactly who in that pool is town but the fact that you're discrediting everything i'm saying is becoming old and p scummy

[skitter30]

i really don't know what to do about creature

[skitter30]

wake, don't lol-lose the game tomorrow by lolvoting for masons.
just like if you're town and do that after i went to bat for you i'll be kinda pissed

again just want to highlight this if you're town wake ^

because i see this being how the game ends in some universes tomorrow if i die

[skitter30]

ok my final guess on creature is that he's town, but confidence is not super high, this is a gut read

january, in {garmr, tictac, creature, wake}, and try to aim for a clear
(i would prefer in the first two but i would be ok with a check on any of them)

VOTE: looker
the slot needs to go before lylo

scum is in {garmr, tictac, creature, wake} in roughly that order i would say

[AaronFrost]

Vote Count 3.11 [FINAL]

tictac [0]:

Wake88 [0]:

Skellen [0]:

skitter30 [0]:

Garmr [1]:

Creature

january [0]:

Looker [5] [LYNCH]:

january, Garmr, Saudade, tictac, skitter30

Creature [0]:

Saudade [2]:

Wake88, Looker

Not Voting [1]:

Skellen

With 9 in play, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-01-08 10:39:00)

Notes

- skitter30 is regularly V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays

Looker was lynched Day 3. He was a...

Spoiler:

Mafia 1-Shot Ninja

Night 3 Begins!

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-01-09 22:30:00)

[AaronFrost]

skitter30 was killed Night 3. She was a...

Spoiler:

Town Mason Mailman

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Day 4 Begins!

Vote Count 4.00

tictac [0]:

Wake88 [0]:

Skellen [0]:

Garmr [0]:

january [0]:

Creature [0]:

Saudade [0]:

Not Voting [7]:

tictac, Wake88, Skellen, Garmr, january, Creature, Saudade

With 7 in play, it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-01-16 23:00:00)

Notes

- Ope

[january]

action failed on tictac

genuinely think that i probably would get an action failed on any of them but eh

[january]

can i say i told u so on looker

[Garmr]

Part 1 Feelings

This post was never going to be made if looker flipped town. But well he flipped scum and it makes me happy. Happy that I was right day 1 and first to notice it. I was taking solace in being better than you because I scum read mariar and nailed scum with decent reasoning day 1. Then it dawned on me I should be happy for being right not because I felt aka better than you. So, I’m writing this in the night before any flips to express my feelings.

I’m not sure you noticed skitter but throughout this game I have built up a seething anger towards you. So much so I contemplating if I should vote in you lylo despite knowing you were town I decided against that after swallowing my personal feelings. I been wondering if you noticed how I felt throughout the game but looking in retrospect I guess not.


Part 2 The catalyst.

The start of this all was Robbnva and my argument with him. Him saying he didn’t like me despite me doing nothing to him rubbed me the wrong way so I made a light jab. I was willing to end it there but he was pathetic about it. But I won’t go to much in detail as that’s over. The problem is you. Who in the hell do you think I am? Do you think of me as low enough to start a personal fight as a scum tactic? I’m not as low as Deathrow Kitty who set up a situation to get me banned because I scum read them correctly. I wanted to avoid a fight since I just had one so in my mind, I rationalized that anyone who would push it would be scum. But imagine the feelings I had when I realized you were town. Not only did I have to deal with you implying I would start personal fights as a scum tactic. But You had wasted my entire day 2 and after I realized jan is town (That’s why I stopped pushing her at the end of the day.) you fucking corrupted my town read of her. I can’t even make myself feel better. Making a jab at your bad reads made me feel better about you but you go that’s scummy. Hello are you fucking dense I’m annoyed at you. Oh, what really makes me pissed is the fact you make up lies and bs about things to justify your bad scum read on me. I don’t understand why people think you are a decent player when you do this shit.



Part 3 A better game without you

I been fantasying about this game without you and how much better it would be. 1st off if we had a player like bob or firebringer. They would have realized it’s null for me to argue with robb and this shit never starts. You were a big part of flavour lynch so with out your existence we would have him still in the game and we would have formed a good town block between him and me and maybe with mason if the replacement of you was competent.

Say day 1 played out the same bar my arguments with you. I would have not got caught up on you day 2 and would have pushed mariar/looker. Not only would that scum slot be lynched earlier we would have avoided me and Jan arguing and I wouldn’t have lost my well-placed town read on her. Hell, we may have lynched that slot.


Day 3 would also be less messy but I can’t predict how that would of went but it was probably better.


Final word

I am not like robb and your probably decent in real life but this game omg this game has frustrated me to no end. So I thought it was healthier for me to get this out in the open.

[Garmr]

This is more a post about theory and hunting procedure and less about personal things so I’m separating it from my last post.

Subject: Mini Normal 2111 [Night 3]

My current scum/lynch list is

Skitter,Mariar and 1 of my nulls being Non/Dunn/Una/gamma/tic ta.

These two I don't really want to lynch right now

Gamma-

Been thinking about gamma being bad town after someone brought it up to me and it is pretty possible. I just hold gamma in very high regard because of my past experiences with him which is why I hinted at being a power role to him in my last game.

Tic tac-

all the bad people have been touching him

The others I am fine with lynching.

Mariar I scum read for pretty much one reasons.

I

n post 403, Garmr wrote:
Also MariaR what do you think about Una soft claiming masons with you?

Why would I ever answer this question?

Una and Non are people I'd also vote. But yeah there's a catch up woo.

Well since you literally answered this for me. How do you feel them softing you as a potential mason partner when they are not.

I was going to question this further before given my opinion but decided not to. It's really weird that mariar scum read non but had no opinion on non softing masons with her. There's like no reaction to him softing it and when asked Mariar kinda pushed it away and then said she'd vote him . Town would at least of some sort of reaction if they were suspecting them since they literally tied themselves to you.

Every scenario I can think up comes from the motivation Oh not wanting to tie yourself to non and make sure people don't think about it. But why would town who have to sort people want people to forgot something that happened. I can Only think of reasons for scum so that's why she's on my list.

Subject: Mini Normal 2111 [Night 3]

oh and how he keeps returning to the whole 'non softed masons with mariar' thing and keeps pushing that angle

See I was right to push on mariar for her lack of reaction to the mason soft. When someone else brought it up the soft mason crumb everyone was willing to drop it and let it be. This despite being site norm is not the right mentality for mafia. If it’s super obvious then scum has most likely noticed it. So not talking about it is stupid.

Also if I was scum and believed they could be masons I wouldn't want to call it out in the thread.

Now if we pushed further we probably would of found out more to the reason why she doesn't want to be tied to creatures slots. I was also right about the motives.

So now the motive I'm thinking of is mariar didn't want to address it because she is scum with non aka creatures slot. It's also why she purposely ignored my posts on it. Creature voting me and making me the counter wagon to looker makes me even more that the slots are tied


Subject: Mini Normal 2111 [Night 3]

I was going to question this further before given my opinion but decided not to. It's really weird that mariar scum read non but had no opinion on non softing masons with her. There's like no reaction to him softing it and when asked Mariar kinda pushed it away and then said she'd vote him . Town would at least of some sort of reaction if they were suspecting them since they literally tied themselves to you.

so much scum ^

This ended up back firing on you didn't it so next time instead of trying to drag down my fucking reasoning with a brainless response like this. You'll hopefully learn to not be so dumb and broaden your mind to something that's out of the box scum hunting instead of sticking to simple formula.

Also 3 points
1.If I was role hunting why would I be obvious about.
2. Retrospect point. No need to scum hunt a buddy.
3. Retrospect point. WHy the fuck would I call out a mason soft that's on a scum buddy. It benefits scum no matter who is doing it allowing them to coast through easier.

[Garmr]

These post were written in the night phase So kinda surprising that skitter was killed.

[Garmr]

That being said Mariar reaction to creatures predecessor makes me feel they are scum partners. You'd think a scum mariar would latch on to town trying to set up a mason read. To set up a potential future mislynch. Not indiscreetly try to push them away.

[january]

snip snip snip

so... is this entire post just to tell skitter how you're annoyed with her

i understand that like
u two didn't get along or whatever
but i think its really unfair of you to suggest that skitter is to blame for the entire state of the game
like, i understand that she played a part in the FL lynch and yes of course was partially responsible for some of the mislynches, but it's a part of mafia
and it's honestly... kinda low of you that you only choose to say all this when she's gone and can't respond to you

[Garmr]

snip snip snip

so... is this entire post just to tell skitter how you're annoyed with her

i understand that like
u two didn't get along or whatever
but i think its really unfair of you to suggest that skitter is to blame for the entire state of the game
like, i understand that she played a part in the FL lynch and yes of course was partially responsible for some of the mislynches, but it's a part of mafia
and it's honestly... kinda low of you that you only choose to say all this when she's gone and can't respond to you

Like I said wrote it in the night phase and I didn't think scum would actually shoot and I rushed to get it posted because I wanted it out in the open. I didn't think I would be lucky enough for scum to shoot skitter. In fact I thought they would shoot you.

[january]

me too but i don't mind

did u post it without checking death or did u just want to say it anyways

ik this has very little relevance to the game but it just feels unnecessary to me

[Skellen]

Eh, let's save it for postgame.

Just checking in as I am about to leave.

Tbh was expecting a jan kill too. Blocked or not, tictac isn't the worst "guilty" at first sight as I thought Maria's D1 vote on him was exactly the kind of vote you would do on a partner, also from wagon placement. Have to think some things through though.

[Garmr]

I guess the latter I had it all copy and pasted then I scrolled to see the night kill. I paused for a second then hit enter. I decided it was better to post what I written last night and move on instead of holding it inside and taking it out on skitter in a future game. Also it was much tamer than the other 4 versions which were a bit more lets say mean spirited. So the post was more for me to move on than for skitter herself.


But I'm willing to discuss it with her post game. That being said Jan what do you think of creature slot x looker/mariar?