Guns & Roses III [Game over]

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Hi Menalque smells

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Also you all suck

You should've used random.org to choose between gun and rose, not try to do the opposite of what was done the previous game

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Damn.

Forgot to randomize it?

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Let’s VOTE: iconeum for an

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day one lynch!

wasn't a good pun

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9 roses, not what I expected.

VOTE: Aaron

I think texancat is town here

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I wonder if S_S randed scum again

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Who won in G&R1?

Town did.

It was a smaller game (9:2), but the mechanics were all the same.

Oh, 9:2 is way more townsided

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Calling it now the scum team is literally datisi, SS

There's 3 scum tho

Only scum would notice such a glaring omission

VOTE: Datisi

Salamence can be my first scumread

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You should've used random.org to choose between gun and rose, not try to do the opposite of what was done the previous game

How do you know I didn't?

9 roses

That's a 5/512 chance so obviously players were influenced by last game

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Don't fucking follow previous games

You just end going with the crowd

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We need a fair balance between roses and guns

As if each of us tossed a coin

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People ignore postgame

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Hence why there are 9 roses and not 5-7 as it should be

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You should've used random.org to choose between gun and rose, not try to do the opposite of what was done the previous game

How do you know I didn't?

9 roses

That's a 5/512 chance so obviously players were influenced by last game

Correction: 55/2048

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Also while finding this I saw there was a TAZ mini theme like 2 years ago and you have no idea how salty I am that I wasn’t around for that

I think the game was garbage anyway, at least the players in it

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RC getting replaced out was funny though

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8 or 9 roses is ideal picks, creature.

They do nothing if they're outnumbered by scum

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VOTE: AaronFrost

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Can we wagon someone?

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VOTE: Samelance

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um no ChooChoo this way

VOTE: Creature

Great to know we're getting something out of it

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Salimance and alidya are both scum

Now need a third

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VOTE: AaronFrost

Creature, what was this? Did you have a legit scumread on AF (which I don't see how) or were you just trying to get a wagon going?

I had a somewhat legit scumread on AF and probably still have

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Hi bad news still on the street for likely two more hours

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Misters and misteresses ExPlain-Every-Action-Of-Yours will have to wait longer

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Oh oops accidentally capsed the P

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Definitely not lol

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Yes but still not answering

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Remember when creature played this game? In fact there seems to be alot of people that just up and left or are active lurking: Creature, Icon, pret, dogwatch, ect.

Lol shut up

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VOTE: Amrun

Make it seven votes!

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VOTE: Amrun

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Have no idea why AaronFrost is being townread

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I tbh hate to call players town when they don't deserve to be called town

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I think texcat is town
So is GuiltyLiar and Saladance

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It's prob Aaron + Amrun + someone fucking around

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Creature what do you think of sally/ddl?

Calling Salesdance town is something I hate doing rn
DDL idk didn't realize he was playing

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Why is Aaron scum?

I'm not seeing him as town and when that happensbthey usually happen to be scum

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It was like PaintingTrap and Ankamius in Calendar mafia

Or BEF in that failure of cyris' mini normal

Or NaCl in the assassins game town collectively threw

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Amrun + IronFrost + DDL?

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It's prob Aaron + Amrun + someone fucking around

You really think me and Amrun are a team?

Creature might actually be scum here.

Okay you're indeed scum then

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Creature come back and tell them I play like dogshit as town

You're usually visibly town as town

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VOTE: AaronFrost

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Sorry, I saw a wagon growing on me and tbh I wanted to see how it would go

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also still can't find the right inspiration for this

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Salamence and GuiltyLion are probably all town from this

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Okay, I am not really sorry

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Just wanted to see the fire

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I think there should have two scum in here:

Datisi, Amrun, DrDolittle, AaronFrost

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specially if Amrun is scum

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Meh meh meh

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Iconeum is still town

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VoteCount 1.7

amrun [1] - Creature
GuiltyLion [3] - texcat, Dogwatch, alimdia
DrDolittle [1] - Menalque
Creature [7] - Salamence20, Something_Smart, GuiltyLion, Datisi, Amrun, DrDolittle, AaronFrost
Datisi [1] - Pretentious
Salamence20 [1] - Iconeum

Not Voting [0]

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With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to be chosen.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-12-11 13:35:31)

UNVOTE:

and so is Something_Smart

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Amrun

Salamence20

Dogwatch

GuiltyLion
Something_Smart
Iconeum

Menalque

Creature

DrDolittle
alimdia
texcat
Datisi
AaronFrost
Pretentious

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Ugh, didn't expect I'd have so many people to sort yet

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Not that it didn't result in anything

Amrun now looks terribad and we get to see who tf drove it away

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Oh, AaronFrost is also terrible

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He has been my pet scumread the entire game

I never actually townread him although he's quite obvious as town

Whenever I saw him posting it seemed to scream scum

Now his vote on me just seals it

He's just scum

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The tell is pretty obvious:

If it's a player I can immediately tell it's town and I can't tell it's town this game in any way, it means it's just scum

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I won't ever claim

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I am leaving some reads if I am mislynched and your second chance is to follow them

If you don't, I take zero part of this loss, you're the one who harmed yourself

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not saying that's like the most likely explanation, but it's not unreasonable that scum him would continue to lurk

Not D1

I can lose the gas any other day but D1

I won't ever allow myself to get lynched as scum D1

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I won't ever claim

Um

That's a bad policy.

That's like what I do every game

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unless it's MU

MU necessitates massclaiming D1 because town sucks at not lynching important town roles when they're claimed 2 days later

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The tell is pretty obvious:

If it's a player I can immediately tell it's town and I can't tell it's town this game in any way, it means it's just scum

can you link me to the games where you could immediately tell AF was town?

Creature you should answer this because it will give your read on AF a lot more validity if we can see that there are immediately noticeable differences in AF's play

I have this:
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80540

I had one other game in mind but can't link it rn

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...why arent we lynching this guy? Hes the best source of information at this point?

Typical say before an obvious mislynch on a target that gives no actual info because everyone was like "oh his lynch gives info"

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But you'll allow yourself to get lynched as town D1?

I will care less because I like to insult town for being stupid af (more of masochism)

Still, I am somewhat trying rn

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I think there should have two scum in here:

Datisi, Amrun, DrDolittle, AaronFrost

is this just from the last 4 people that voted you or does this have any addl substance behind it

Salamence and GuiltyLion have been enough town

It's the four stooges there that seem to have just hopped along to save Amrun from being lynched presumably

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I dont like the fact we are going after aaron with less than 24 hours.

No one likes the fact there's no plurality lynch in a setup of this nature

No one likes the fact most town decided to go for rose instead of just flipping a coin between gun and rose

No one likes the fact most players here are being unreadable rn

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Seriously your flip gives me pretty good reads on Alimida/Ico/Menal/Datisi/SS/GL and more,

regardless of alignment

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lol?

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Why is aaron scum?

Already said:

I should be able to tell he's obvtown if he's town but he isn't

He's just standing in the sidelines and going along

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Also tbh I don't think I ever won a game as town by mislynching town "for info"

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idk at all

don't know how that's indicative of anything

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Also scum can leave their hiding once they see pressure relieving on them

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I think I'm v mildly offended by being called a stooge, but the people that I'm being lumped together with are all right, so no harm no foul

Yep, likely two scum and another stooge

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It's not just one game, but I can't tell it.

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I didn't notice it at first.

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I still think my pre-Creature-returning-to-thread read of "nobody is bussing Creature if he's scum" is solid

That's wrong af

It's rule for scum to bus the fuck out of me if I ever fall off slightly

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Datish
Amrun
DrDolittle
AaronFrost

Pick one to lynch

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Oh great, we pretty much lost a vote

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Nolynch it is then

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Oh well, today is the perfect day to screw up as town anyway

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Wished I could have just randed scum at least once

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but fuck this anyway

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Amrun

Salamence20

Dogwatch

GuiltyLion
Something_Smart
Iconeum

Menalque

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DrDolittle
alimdia
texcat
Datisi
AaronFrost
Pretentious

My townreads are still this, but I'd add DrDolittle

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Amrun and AaronFrost haven't done shit for me to change my opinion on them

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GuiltyLion, what the fucking fuck?

Already told you it was a mistake and I'm not supposed to tell you anything else.

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Meh, I bet all vig shots will go straight on my townreads anyway

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VOTE: Amrun

This wagon dismantled pretty quick for my liking

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(in which case this wagon is town driven but stalled??)

Wow imagine the wagons that never took off then (Amrun now, Aaron, DDL)

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Regardless of Creature's alignment I think scum got caught off the wagon

Wrong there's already two of them on my wagon

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What you're seeing is town resistance

When multiple players seem to townread me means it's town resisting the lynch

Scum doesn't admit that and instead results in an unexplained resistance

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Amrun and Aaron are scum

You'll have to admit your reads are complete crap this game

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I'm not feeling DDL though

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Can we speedlynch Amrun or Aaron tomorrow?

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Ignore GuiltyLion btw, his reads are wrong

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Intent 1 hour

intent -4 hrs

Well 1 hour is close enough?

Not liking this hesitamce tbh

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Amrun and Aaron should be dead though

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The resistance HAS to be scum driven.

There are a lot of players publicly resisting my lynch

A scum driven resistance is more silent

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Yeah we're probably having the shittiest hammer ever.

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Again I repeat:

Fucking speedlynch Amrun or Aaron tomorrow, whoever is alive

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Pretentious will probably just flip town

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Whichever scum is offwagon will get a free pass to hammer and get away with it

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I can lit hammer now

Sure, but put Amrun or Aaron L-1 the first RL day of tomorrow

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Nah you can still be offwagon scum

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I strong scumread Aaron and Amrun and townread everybody else on my wagon

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Pretentious is not scum

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I'd say DogWatch is the one offwagon scum

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also use random.org next time you pick between gun and rose otherwise you'll get 1 or 10 roses every game

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Oh didn't notice

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Still DW is scummy

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SS can be scum, but Amrun and AF gotta go first

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Pret and Mena probably aren't scum

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Avoiding responsibility you mean

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Actually it's possible Salamence is scum

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Salamence is a spice shot I endorse

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Also gives a lot of info

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Is Iconeum talking that much in the scum thread?

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Salamence ran away as soon I was hammered

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Probably told Ico to hide his online status when talking in scum PT

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Can you check the online users in the sitechat for me?

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it's a yellow dot for Icon

lol did he really try to hide his online status?

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I'm going to let a player from the scum team just hammer for their team instead of requiring them to coordinate a quick hammer.

This is a thing?

In another site LyLos have locked votes so if town votes town it means pretty much scum already won regardless if they can coordinate a quickhammer or not.

A simple solution would be to instantly end the game as soon town votes town in LyLo regardless if they try to unvote later.

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https://www.random.org/

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1 for gun
2 for rose

for the future games

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Also think plurality lynch should prevail in the earlier stages of the game to prevent having to compromise which basically undermines dayplay

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Also think plurality lynch should prevail in the earlier stages of the game to prevent having to compromise which basically undermines dayplay

I've found that plurality lynch games tend to drag on to the deadline every single day, which is why I'm reluctant

All the lynches this game dragged to the deadline anyway but still

Well, games focused on dayplay are supposed to take their time

and even if it was meant to end earlier 8 votes to lynch someone would still require heavy compromising over actual scumhunting

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One day I'll get good at this game

Randomizing your gun/rose choice would already do good