Open 770: Fusion Mafia - Game Over!

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

More of a ruby person myself.

[GeorgeBailey]

Why are people even voting Saudade?

[GeorgeBailey]

I love how my read is simply George. Yeah sorry for not posting much, Christmas festivities and such.

Hectic's read list so far is, interesting. Townread on Elements is odd, and why the scumread on Emerald? Emerald pretty much just talked about the game rules so far?

Anyways, I was gonna vote pop but their recent post was lengthy enough to get a read (Guessing you don't like Saudade lmao). Also,

@pops

Saudade's scum call clearly seemed like a joke. Which is why I was confused. Is hard claiming scum even a tactic for scum?

Dunnstral

[GeorgeBailey]

yikes sorry, meant VOTE: Dunnstral

[GeorgeBailey]

Because you're neutral to me right now, you haven't done anything to make you town or scum. And his reason didn't really make sense. You got voted out D1 a lot, but the one time you didn't you were scum, and that makes you Town?

BB, I still remember our times at MfD, I would never attack you <3

[GeorgeBailey]

Menalque said Pine said that he claimed scum earlier this year as scum, then bragged about doing so in postgame. Depending on the personality profile it can be scum indicative.

Aight, well i've never seen it before. To me it sounds like suicide. But i've never played with Saudade before, is he the type to do that?

[GeorgeBailey]

he is the sort that I could see hardclaiming scum just to brag about it.

Oh yikes here it is, I didn't know that when I asked why anyways. Also, why would I defend him as an associative if he's just going to keep taunting and claim scum?

[GeorgeBailey]

yee

Spoiler:

[GeorgeBailey]

Doesn't explicitly rule out a nightkill that night.

Yeah, so it sounds like if we get scum D1, the best Maf can do is get an NK N1.

[GeorgeBailey]

Now, why are you voting me this time?

Also, who the hell is frank?

[GeorgeBailey]

George is a good d1 lynch

I voted Dunnstral to get activity, and so far: He voted you, and when asked about it said "No Comment".

How am I a better lynch than him? Egduf hasn't really done anything either, but she wont be back until the 26th I guess.

[GeorgeBailey]

EBWP: I meant when asked about Saudade's wagon.

[GeorgeBailey]

Scummy how? Because I didn't want to vote Saudade?

[GeorgeBailey]

Anyways, keeping vote on Dunn since there's no way to read him right now.

[GeorgeBailey]

The three replacements seem pretty Townie.

[GeorgeBailey]

I see

I thought it was kind of interesting your inclination was to townread Aisa for her replace out

Yeah, seems like Scumhunting Town.

Saudade/Hopkirk are town
Elements/Hectic are scum

Pretty much close in reads.

Youre approaching the wagon from the wrong direction. Dont ask 'who is the scum on this' or 'did scum vote this'

ask instead 'whose vote looks weaksauce' and then compare it to the available evidence.

Profi looked average
ele looked weak
I dont remember the rest.

Again, Townie Scumhunting.

[GeorgeBailey]

George do you think any of the people pushing for your lynch are scummy?

Dunn, probably.

I copy pasted George's slimy reasoning for voting me and turned it back at him, where it applies

Like, buddy, you had two posts. Amounting to 4 words. Sorry if i'm not able to read that.

The vote was for a response anyways, and I'm getting an interesting one. You're acting extremely defensive.

I think my vote is best kept on Dunn for now.

[GeorgeBailey]

but then say Dunn is the one who's scummy for pushing your lynch. Why not me?

I don't think Dunn is scummy for pushing my lynch. And because Dunn's actions are scummier than yours.

Dunn's reaction to my vote, and his overall engagement in the game has been scummy.

[GeorgeBailey]

purposeless unhelpful with stuff like "no comment" which obviously going to draw attention to him, and he should be self aware enough to realise that.

This is some next level WIFOM.

[GeorgeBailey]

@ofhrz

Who do you scumread right now?

[GeorgeBailey]

I quite like ank

Yeah, I'm never getting that lynch.

George gives me eerie Flames vibes but I'm gonna go with my gut after reading through his ISO which amounts to scum.

And Dunn is proabbly a better lynch than Pissy actually.

How am I scummier than Dunn exactly?

[GeorgeBailey]

Why are you focused on Dunn?

I think he's still a pretty good vote right now. Between Dunn, and Hectic. And a small scum read on Elements

[GeorgeBailey]

This feels like the Saudade wagon all over again

[GeorgeBailey]

I do know Hectic

Hopkirk/Hectic masons confirmed

[GeorgeBailey]

...Son???

[GeorgeBailey]

I love the office

[GeorgeBailey]

Which one?

The Canadian one

[GeorgeBailey]

I'm so excited, this is the first time anyone has town read my day one!

Wtf tell me your secret

[GeorgeBailey]

All will be revealed when we have some more votes... go go go!

Why not reveal now?

[GeorgeBailey]

Thinking the UK office is superior

Scumlocked

[GeorgeBailey]

George is flying under the radar.

I mean, I have a wagon the size of Dunn's right now, not exactly low-profile.

Not sure what to think at the moment and want to hear more from him.

What would you like to hear?

[GeorgeBailey]

he's potentially responded by fitting to that role

A little confused to what you mean here actually. Did the way I play change when people pointed it out?

[GeorgeBailey]

I'm mainly looking for hints of genuine/spontaneous townieness right now and I don't think I get that if I ask you for it/direct you to anything.

Understandable. Have a nice day.

[GeorgeBailey]

Can we hear your case tho

[GeorgeBailey]

@ofrhz Thoughts on Profii's argument so far?

[GeorgeBailey]

lmao aight. Profii can you just tell us why then?

[GeorgeBailey]

So it's mostly a meta read?

[GeorgeBailey]

dunnstral/hopkirk/profii/elements are my towncore I think

ofrhz/pops/george can wait to be sorted

gamma emerald/pisskop/flopz/norwegianee should all be flipped sooner rather than later imo

How is Dunn your town core??

[GeorgeBailey]

Ta

This is the best post

[GeorgeBailey]

Flopz looking pretty fresh doe

[GeorgeBailey]

Yikes, I guess I wont my scum pick.

I'm thinking Hectic/Emerald, but I really want to see what the replacement has to say first.

[GeorgeBailey]

Although Hectic has been considerably better than Emerald. Emerald's most recent post was kinda... reaching. Like when Dunn tried to link me with Elements after I voted him.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=AaronFrost if you want to read more.

Also, didn't you write this?

[GeorgeBailey]

eGorBageyli

yes

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As Town Reads?

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Also, does V/LA mean i get to cherrypick the questions I answer to frame myself as town?

Not a fan of his recent posting i'm assuming?

[GeorgeBailey]

Hectic's new pfp is creeping me out

[GeorgeBailey]

DO NOT GOOGLE OTTERCOCKS WTF

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: hopkirk

Yeah this was weird, why vote hopkirk?

[GeorgeBailey]

lol you didnt

I wish I didn't

[GeorgeBailey]

I'm really hesitant on the Norway Wagon, just because of the way Profii tried to force a wagon on the person. I'm just so pinged by the move. I wanna hear more from Profii.

[GeorgeBailey]

And, I really wish Dunn made at least a case for himself in the end. I voted him for having nothing to read on, and he didn't do a lot thereafter. IMO he was still the best vote that day.

[GeorgeBailey]

But George, why am I a lynch candidate for you?

It was pretty much the way you were pushing Ank that day.

[GeorgeBailey]

Why did you want Ank lynched so much btw?

[GeorgeBailey]

Did you get a strong scumread out of that?

[GeorgeBailey]

You also keep pushing wagons, what are your reads?

@profii

[GeorgeBailey]

Hectic's new pfp is staring into my soul

[GeorgeBailey]

Only scum would have a reason to be afraid.

it felt like i was staring into the face of death

[GeorgeBailey]

So you're scum claiming?

I'm disturbed claiming

[GeorgeBailey]

can I get in on this deal too

[GeorgeBailey]

It's just your imagination

[GeorgeBailey]

These recent posts have been pretty.....

Hectic

[GeorgeBailey]

Aight, i'mma sheep Ank and go with my strongest Scumread right now. Norway is a good pick. But the way Hectic tried to vote Ank out, the way he was hopping from the Gamma wagon, to the Dunn wagon, then to the Norway wagon, felt like he was trying to find a wagon to latch onto in hopes of an easy lynch. I think he's a pretty good choice for today's lynch.

VOTE: Hectic

I say we lynch Hectic, then Norway tomorrow. If pops is right about Ank calling out the Scum team from the beginning, then that would be amazing.

[GeorgeBailey]

Who the fuck is ofhrz

Aww, he's been gone for a while. Shame, he was a nice town read.

[GeorgeBailey]

Norway was yesterday's pending lynch until a group of players switched over to Dunnstral in a matter of hours.

Those players were: Norway, Ofhrz (now Adorable), Elements, Piss, Profii and Hectic.

Who would you say are the scummiest out of those?

Hectic, Elements, and ofrhz voted Dunn consecutively.

[GeorgeBailey]

I really wanna say Hectic/Elements, just because of how close those votes were. But I think it's more likely Hectic/Norway. And I haven't found Elements particularly scummy recently.

You two were attempting a bussing earlier, but got the mislynch through when you saw Dunn gaining traction. When Hectic flips red, it's 100% Norway.

[GeorgeBailey]

Why would i be voting Hectic if he was my teammate?

Distancing of course

What i'm saying is, why would a redflip Hectic necessarily indicate scum!me?

The interactions between you two. And the Ank solve. If Ank is really as good as pops said she was, then this game is already solved.

[GeorgeBailey]

Yikes, idk if we can afford to lose anymore town. Looker, why are you so insistent it's Profii?

[GeorgeBailey]

Well that's something. I thought Hectic would lead to Norway. Now i'm really not sure.

Why do you think scum should have killed you last night? I'm not getting your WIFOM argument. You never particularly pushed Profii last night.

[GeorgeBailey]

Meh, neither are good votes for me. I kinda prefer profii for today. Looking into his ISO. VOTE: profii

[GeorgeBailey]

I think Looker might be right about him

[GeorgeBailey]

No sorry, weird wording. I meant after looking into his ISO.

[GeorgeBailey]

Why do you TR flopz so heavily @Looker?

[GeorgeBailey]

Profii I remain not a fan of.

The NK last night would kinda make sense too. Hopkirk scumread profii.

[GeorgeBailey]

Ouch, and i'm not excited about it. It's just my strongest scumread right now.

[GeorgeBailey]

Currently? No, but I was previously. A lot of this is dependent on yesterday.

I just wanna know why Looker voted in Defense of Flopz. Flopz is a bit hard to sort for me right now, and I don't see many reasons to townread him.

[GeorgeBailey]

Woah woah now hold on now. Just got a chance to start reading this thread. I'm pretty sure it's
Flopz/Looker. Give me a little bit to case this. Also, Insomnia's strong townread on profii is quite worrying, especially since profii was acting quite scummy the previous day.

[GeorgeBailey]

Ok, so first off. Sorry for absence. (Just got a new job and I bit off more than I could chew with these games. That's all on me, and i'm still trying here.)

So, Gamma Emerald (Now Looker) at gives off slight scum vibes with the new information revealed. Now Norwee was ScumLean for me, but never a strong Scum read. But Gamma's previous post:

This progression through the setup spec doesn't feel staged, I think Nor is town

Most of his early game posts revolved around explaining the setup, rather than trying to scumhunt too. Like he's trying to act busy rather than actually sort people and make hard claims.

Thank you, I had the initial thought that this kinda resembles White Flag somewhat. Basically scum need to not get lynched twice this game, but after the first lynch whomever is left gets paired. So it might serve town to avoid lynching a super scummy player and hunt for their buddy, and flip them after the first scum flip. However I wouldn’t advise this at 9 alive or less. Scum will very likely need to have an eagle-eyed view of the gamestate to determine who is the best choice to go first versus getting paired. As for how scum would select the pairings, I think they’d try to create a bunch of pairings more worth lynching than them. So if there’s a super towny and super scummy town they’d likely pair them to lower the towny player’s impact.

No defense, Norway picked a shitty target. Consider me gone until profii returns.

Looker replaces in, fresh start. Ok.
Then, after a series of posts from Looker, he busses Norwee. This looks like a really safe bus tbh. He leaves his vote on Norwee for voting Flopz
Then barely pushes Norwee and watches the game state.

Can I count that as a confession, pretty boy?

This was the only interaction with Norwee after he voted them.

In post 1356, Flopz wrote:
I'll follow my Townreads for this one. I think I've been blindsided by the magnificent song. VOTE: Norwee

Which player were you sheeping with this vote?

Looker's interactions with Flopz have always been neutral up until this point. Which is a scum distancing technique.

Case on Flopz in a moment. Just posting this so no one lolhammers me while i'm posting.

[GeorgeBailey]

So, Gamma Emerald (Now Looker) at gives off slight scum vibes with the new information revealed. Now Norwee was ScumLean for me, but never a strong Scum read. But Gamma's previous post:

gives off slight scum vibes with the new information***

EBWOP

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

If I had to pick it would be PK>Profii

First off, his vote on me is pretty strange. If you're voting me to lynch, then you should scumread me as well as PK.

[GeorgeBailey]

lmao

[GeorgeBailey]

rofl, give me a minute

[GeorgeBailey]

Shhhh, let me defend myself. I'm almost done.

[GeorgeBailey]

My current club of considerably cordial and courteous characters are currently Pops, Hopkirk, Norwee and Profii. I would put myself somewhere in this list but will leave the exact placement to everyone's imagination.

Early TR on Norwee.

Flopz has put in more effort in his posts and has a generally better tone.

It seems incongruent for you to criticize Flopz when Dunnstral has put in much less effort in this game and is scumcoasting mrs. Ankamius.

Here's norwee defending flopz early game.

Woah this is moving too fast. UNVOTE:

Also, wouldn't you have been notified before you posted that about the votes? Seems LAMIST.

Honestly, I scumread Looker more than Flopz, but given the setup they both have to be scum.

[GeorgeBailey]

There we go

[GeorgeBailey]

Self-hammering is never honorable. :/

[GeorgeBailey]

And i'm sure Piss wouldn't appreciate it lmao

[GeorgeBailey]

The end of a new beginning. Where we lynch Looker and walk into the sunset together.

VOTE: Looker

[GeorgeBailey]

I got rekt.

How does play scum.

[GeorgeBailey]

tl;dr I was right

2/3 sure

[GeorgeBailey]

Norwee, does your back hurt?

[GeorgeBailey]

I remember a lot of screaming

[GeorgeBailey]

From me at least

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