BooneyToonz XIII: To Boon or Not To Boon - [END]

[BrightEyedFish]

Hello.

VOTE: Romeo and Juliet

Hi.

[BrightEyedFish]

soooo many hydras.

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ego

I don’t have one, I’m just confident in my strengths and self aware of my weaknesses.

First post is a hydra slip... oh man. Here we go.

[BrightEyedFish]

I misread Latias and Latios.
Bonus points if you know what I misread it as.

I gather from the way the game started I'm lucky there was an open slot so I didn't have to hydra.

Latinas and Latinos?

[BrightEyedFish]

I misread Latias and Latios.
Bonus points if you know what I misread it as.

I gather from the way the game started I'm lucky there was an open slot so I didn't have to hydra.

Latinas and Latinos?

The fish isn't normally this smart.

VOTE: BEF

Its taking performance enhancing drugs. It should be disqualified.

You think I'm smart? Are you finally starting to warm up to me?

[BrightEyedFish]

And I'm only confident of the top 3

You mean top 4 (add me to your list)

[BrightEyedFish]

RCE needs more votes.

RCE used to be my buddy but he betrayed me. Also, the Jays are never nice to me even if I try real hard.

So that makes me want to rebound sheep someone else. 50JP is always a good booty call but he seems to be preoccupied for now. So I'm asking you, can I sheep you?

VOTE: RCE

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I'M also nervous that I'm going to wrongly scum read titus and VaM. So I just want to try and not get sucked inside those hurricanes right now.

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I want to love Chara but just don't know how.

Haggle will make me answer uneasy questions and make me think that I am scum.

Flippynips will lurk.

DD is someone I think I can work with this game.

Dave is just dave and Frank is frank. My reads on them will be shit.

Everyone else, I don't know or can't remember that I know.

I just want to know one thing. Why isn't profii in this game?

[BrightEyedFish]

I may have stabbed you in the back... But no one will ever take your place. Forever fishy's pocket.

You say that now but can I count on you when I'm flailing hard before my mislynch?

[BrightEyedFish]

If you look me in my eyes and say you're town I'll fight for you.

[BrightEyedFish]

For everyone to follow along at home: RCE is talking about this which VnM acknowledges in their first post (49). What truly frustrates me the most is that he's nonchalantly acting like wording it in that way is okay. That making the callback in that fashion is somehow as acceptable as simply saying "remember when" except it's

edgy

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nah fam fuck that eat rope

I can't use LNT as a basis for any of my personal reads on VaM or RCE. That game took a toll on me and I'm still recovering!

[BrightEyedFish]

DD is someone I think I can work with this game.

Pick the one you like to work with today

Spoiler:

I see you're in a dirty mood today!

[BrightEyedFish]

Where is your quote located in the PM? Do not describe more.

At the risk of being attacked as a hypocrite, I think this is bad hat.

Yes, because my quote is most likely in the exact same place as everyone else’s. Why would Boon do otherwise?

I don't know but the formatting of mine differs from the sample in a notable way. I suspect it's the same for all town PMs. So prove you know it and my theory about scum voting RCE to protect you not knowing is bullshit.

No because I have absolutely no reason to think Boon would format town and scum pms differently. And it’s “bullshit” regardless.

I think the same here about the Role PMs and I'm BEF.

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Nancy stop with meta. I detest meta. I also can't recognize what this is.

I get the feeling you hate everything. Is there something that you don't hate?

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I think it’s probably a joke but RCE and BEF could better comment on that.

FMPOV its's kind of a joke but I am still not trusting RCE.

[BrightEyedFish]

on page 20 right now. Takinga little break.

P.S.
I would have 0 problems with all the hydras putting who is who in their signatures!

[BrightEyedFish]

I don't know what to think about all of these pages... It felt like a chore to read, maybe because I didn't see much that was directed towards me. If I missed something let me know. I'm not liking Titus' posts but I keep them null for now.

A50 feels town. Also the V&M slot.

Not picking up on any LOUD scum vibes but the lurkers are warned to come out or I may not be able to stop myself from SRing them.

Also,
Can someone make a nice post that shows who has claimed...

[BrightEyedFish]

I picked a number and davesaz won the prize.

The prize being a question from me about my 2nd random pick which is Chara.

Question:

David,
If you were scum partners with Chara,how would you portray your relationship in the is thread?

[BrightEyedFish]

*relationship in this thread

(In case anyone remembers, I wanted to first write "main thread" but I scum slipped before using that term and it brought back scary feelings so I tried to correct it too fast and didn't proof read)

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@Fish

There are two weak hider claims (50 and ???) and Drew is claiming to be in a hood with Joan.

So you made the same slip again?

Why are you rehashing RQS on p30?

I didn't make the same slip again but typing those words probably made my heart rate go up from PTSD.

I'm just trying to get some dialogue going so I can start my sorting process on less active slots and I didn't really see a line of questioning that I could interject myself into. I'll gladly take specific questions from anyone.

[BrightEyedFish]

What are your reads looking like, Fish?

737

Is where my head is at right now. Everyone else I'm working on. Consider all the claimed roles getting the benefit of the doubt atm.

[BrightEyedFish]

I'm just waiting on something that stands out that I can bite. But since I'm a fish it will probably be a lure and I will be reeled in, gutted and fried up for someone's dinner.

[BrightEyedFish]

No I read that, Fish. I was just hoping you had a little more in you.

Is "mate" person Gamma?

Ok, Out of the most active players, with gun to the head, the ones that give me pause are: titus, rce and R&J. However, I wouldn't label them as solid SRs atm.

[BrightEyedFish]

based on guts, vibes etc.

[BrightEyedFish]

Oh LatLat has Gamma. God I hate hydras.

FISHEHHHHH thank you.

Is there any connection between those three names or are they independently pinging you?

Independently

[BrightEyedFish]

Mechtown:
chkflip - miller
50 Judge Power - weak hider*
Latias and Latios - odd night weak hider*

Other claims:
Joan de Arc + Dr Drew - someone put the to a neighborhood.

*Hiders die if they visit someone who returns guilty to cop - GF is immune to this and likely to exist.

Ewwww

What part? The part about GF? I’m not sure I agree that they’re likely to exist, in most games I’ve been in, there was either a miller or a GF but not both. Of course it’s possible but based on my experience, not likely for that reason. Question: if A50/Eon hides behind Chk, do they automatically die, because Chk’s a miller?

There is no GF

[BrightEyedFish]

I SWEAR TO FUCK IF ANYONE ELSE CLAIMS WITHOUT A GODDAMN INTENT TO HAMMER I'LL GET PISSY.

This is the best post of the last 10 pages or so.

[BrightEyedFish]

I read 50s self claim description. I'm still spinning. I guess once we get a result it will make more sense to my fish brain.

Regarding the hoods, this is a Boon game; either the truth lies in the hoods or they looking for a purpose will drive you mad.

[BrightEyedFish]

Happy New Year!

[BrightEyedFish]

Been busy with the new year stuff. I will get caught up tomorrow and try to have lots of BEFfy goodness for you all.

A New Year, A New Bright

ER

EyedFish!

Look out baby, cause here I come...

[BrightEyedFish]

I picked a number and davesaz won the prize.

The prize being a question from me about my 2nd random pick which is Chara.

Question:

David,
If you were scum partners with Chara,how would you portray your relationship in the is thread?

What do you mean by portray? If you mean interact with, it’s entirely situational.

Reminder @BEF there was a question back.

What I mean is, how would you interact with Chara as your scum partner in general? Would you buss, avoid, null-read etc...

[BrightEyedFish]

20 pages to go. Consider this my live read-along scum hunting blog full of insider info and all you can use it to game solve. I’ll just make a reads list and update as I read along.

Order: From Scum to Town

Chara – I used to think CHara was a top game solver but this isn’t hitting right. I think it’s scum here. Trying to look busy.
Espressojet – I always have to re-read, even if the post is just a naked vote.
Joan of Arc –Don’t like the indifference to her lynch
Amrun – uhhh???
Romeo and Juliet – Kinda towny feelings in my heart but resistance to Joan votes is kinda scummy feelings in my heart.
Latias and Latios – I need to find a groove in this slot
Frank -
Davesaz – I want to SR this slot but will throw in with RCE in the undecided, probably scum pile.
RCEnigma – Still hard for me to stay objective on this slot
Emperor flippyNips – didn’t we speed lynch scum!flippynips on D1 before for lurking???
50 Judge Powers – I think this slot is going into overload, the most perfect Null- Slot ever.
LoserdudeOG – Who?
Karnage – See Above
AaronFrost
Titus – waiting on an obv towny post, yet to come across one. Like the naked Amrun vote though on 1159...
Doctor Drew – Some posts seem logical to me. I like that but I have the feeling scum!DD could deepwolf.
Venus and Mars – Too much to analyze but strong town vibes.
Haggle – Split. The BP posts have a scum feel but hectic feels more towned up and I like his record keeping.
Bambi Jay – Scum Bambi would never give me so much slack to be myself. That or killing me has beomce to boring/easy for Family Jay.
Chkflip – Been TRing this slot continuously.
BrightEREyedFish – The Town’s Townie

[BrightEyedFish]

What's the vote situation on Joan like atm?

[BrightEyedFish]

What's the vote situation on Joan like atm?

I think with Titus, that makes 8 votes. I think we need 11 to lynch right?

ok so I'm not hammering.

VOTE: joan

[BrightEyedFish]

UNVOTE:

UNVOTE:

@V&M

Do you think we are dealing with scum!chara here?

[BrightEyedFish]

I was a cop in that game. Of course I didn't want to get lynched as a cop. Different roles, different approach.

Conditional doctor.

WAIT WAIT WAIT a second...

You want to get lynched as a doctor?

[BrightEyedFish]

No, but I am used to it.

Do you think there is scum on your wagon?

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I’m tr everyone on Joan wagon. I can’t help but wonder if the two slots most opposed had a tmi on Joan.

I feel exactly the same. I really want to believe the Joan claim but something isn't right. It's either what you said or the claim is BS.

I think the claim saved them from the lynch today.

[BrightEyedFish]

Chara’s ISO reads townie. @A50, what is your current read on Chara?

If LD is going to prodge the entire game, he wouldn’t be a terrible lynch. However, his flip gives us absolutely no information.

So, I’m between Drew, Haggle, Dave and the two lurkers. Don’t hate Flips either but it’s hard to read him.

LD is getting replaced. Karnage needs to get active.

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Chara – I used to think CHara was a top game solver but this isn’t hitting right. I think it’s scum here. Trying to look busy.

i'm pretty curious what game of mine has given you this idea that i'm a top solver. not saying i'm terrible, but as far as our last game together went i was really off my game.

Maybe it's just the weight of your posts as town, I don't feel that here. It's not a matter of quantity or quality. I'm just not able to relate to your posts as if they are coming from a non-townsided mindset. Although that may be just me having high expectations.

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Chkflip, there's a difference between resignation and letting it happen. The interpretation of what happened is off. I get wanting a lynch but not to that extent. It kinda worries me you're pushing that angle.

VOTE: Haggle

This is a little confusing to me. Is your vote connected to the first part of this post?

[BrightEyedFish]

well, i'm sick in bed but in a great mood. for however long that lasts, if someone would like to jam with me for a while please raise your hand. Titus maybe?
i could talk about Haggle. i called that hydra's posting surface level but didn't go further than attributing it to playstyle.
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The reason why I can't really SR that slot rn is due to the % list thing that the one head did. Iirc he said he is going to stop updating it but the idea behind it seems like a genuine method of sorting. Does scum!haggle put that much effort into something?

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this isn't a readlist. just getting my bearings. as an aside while writing this, i have to admire Fish's commitment to his random and slightly pointless question about how dave might treat me as his scumpartner. and dave's equal commitment to it. i enjoy this.

I think you're misreading reminding him that I asked him what he meant as commitment. I just like to see answers to my questions. I get beat up for asking them, for not asking them, for them being stupid questions, for being questions with obvious answers, for shading people in posts that aren't even stating an opinion on alignment. I like to get my money's worth.

But you're at bat now for a response to this "stupid question"

[BrightEyedFish]

well, i'm sick in bed but in a great mood. for however long that lasts, if someone would like to jam with me for a while please raise your hand. Titus maybe?
i could talk about Haggle. i called that hydra's posting surface level but didn't go further than attributing it to playstyle.
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The reason why I can't really SR that slot rn is due to the % list thing that the one head did. Iirc he said he is going to stop updating it but the idea behind it seems like a genuine method of sorting. Does scum!haggle put that much effort into something?

IIoA is a thing.

Well, I would argue that it is analysis as well as Information. My questioning of it comes from the motivation behind the list as I think town tend to put more effort into such things even more so if they fizzle out of it.

[BrightEyedFish]

I like being a team player but I don't want to vote haggle.

What about L&L. Seems very quiet for a hydra.

VOTE: Latias and Latios

[BrightEyedFish]

I like being a team player but I don't want to vote haggle.

What about L&L. Seems very quiet for a hydra.

VOTE: Latias and Latios

I don’t think they’re scum. Wrt Haggle, I really need to have Hectic post. I’m also not interested in voting any slot with a tpr claim and I believe their weak hider claim.

@Frank, why is your vote still on RCE?

I agree with you 100% on the Haggle slot about Hectic.

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Everyone's going to have a tpr claim. Oh my fuck.

Did you expect anything different?

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I don’t hate that AF vote, actually. I didn’t like the mention of dave slot after mine when AF did it.

I feel that AF's ISO is towny during the first half but kinda loses the town vibes on the more recent posts.

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But so far I don't get a town!creature feeling. Maybe he is just getting his feet wet in this game.
I reserve judgement until we get a real post from him.

[BrightEyedFish]

Are they lolcatting scum?

Who do you mean by "they"?

[BrightEyedFish]

Are they lolcatting scum?

Who do you mean by "they"?

The threesome hydra of one person

Oh OK. I wouldn't put lolcatting past scum!JP50 but I also wouldn't put it past town!JP50.

[BrightEyedFish]

oh hey look! its creature, hi creature

This is your opening post after a few days being MIA?

[BrightEyedFish]

VOTE: Flippynips

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okay that was a short iso

the wagon feels a bit lazy but i do like it better than haggle because flips hasn’t done anything towny

VOTE: flippy

This reminds me of the late and quick D1 lynch on scum!Nippy in LNT.

[BrightEyedFish]

Was he a non-contributing lurksack there?

Yep.

[BrightEyedFish]

You can read his very short ISO in 1 minute here

[BrightEyedFish]

Mechtown:
chkflip - miller
50 Judge Power - 1-shot Recharged Desperate Weak Non-Consecutive Visitor*
Latias and Latios - odd night weak hider*
Other claims:
Joan de Arc + Dr Drew - neighbors
Joan de Arc - conditional doctor

*Weaks die if they visit someone who returns guilty to cop (millers)

Mechtown should be read as "people who claimed things that could theoretically be disproven if they were scum".
It should not be considered to be confirmed.

I agree, anyone could conceivably claim anything and that wouldn’t make them confitown. No one on this list is “mech town” but I tr chk, A50, Eon by play. Neighbours is definitely not a town mech claim by any means. I would hardtown read Chk without the claim.

Just swondering, how often does Boon put different alignments together in hoods?

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Oh and Drew, you have totally misinterpreted my intent re: Flips’ wagon. I just ideally want to vote for a slot I’m confidently sr. What’s wrong with that and why isolate me and Eon, when there are other votes on that wagon?

If Flips comes back here and actually starts doing something, I’ll gladly unvote him.

I have been weary if your play this game, and mechanically speaking being the second spot on the wagon seems ideal for scum to be on if a mislynch occurs. You can pass it off as a genuine scum read that you were sincere about, versus being a wagon jumper with a late vote. Last game I played, as third party, I had some town cred from a very similar D1 play.

And LandL's explanation for their vote just seemed weak, and as I said, was worded like they needed to have a reason to avoid putting down a naked vote.

I really don’t think you can go by that. I’ve heard theories that it’s allegedly the 4th vote that is supposed to be suspicious but for the most part, it’s usually better to look at early vs late than specific numbers and in Correspondence, ours was the first vote on a town wagon, so that totally debunks that theory. Yes, I was scum in that.

I like to starting looking in the 40-80 percentile of any given wagon. Saying the 4th vote on a wagon that needs 6 to lynch should be seen differently on a wagon that needs 11 for example.

[BrightEyedFish]

EBWOP but this is all speculative, especially if you don't have any flips to base/PoE the wagon.

[BrightEyedFish]

@V&M Haven’r got into the game really yet. Kinda just waiting for d2

[BrightEyedFish]

The nonchalant posts from nippy do not help me TR him at all.

[BrightEyedFish]

But yeah, I only have a vague idea of what's going on now and I hope night actions make this better.

I kinda feel this. A huge role madness game will certainly have a lot of exciting shit going on overnight

I think half of the player list feels this way.

@Amrun

Hang in there. Wishing you and your family all the best.

[BrightEyedFish]

What are people thinking about dr drew?

I have him as a slight town lean, a little paranoid about him tbh though.

[BrightEyedFish]

VOTE: Romeo and Juliet

This is an honest sheep with nothing to add to the R&J case. I'm pretty sure I've read at least 4 players who in better words said they are wanting this day to be over/waiting on D2. I've fallen into that group as well.

We have 4 days left until deadline and I am loving the amount of activity but it was sure choatic to try and keep all of these dialoages between the "characters" sorted. I don't know who likes who or who SRs who, etc etc.

I guess that is how I feel when I read Shakespeare

So in that regard, well done you crazy people

[BrightEyedFish]

VOTE: Romeo and Juliet

[BrightEyedFish]

I was already voting there wanted to see some reactions. There has been no hammer.

[BrightEyedFish]

There's the fish we all know and love. Being himself as always.

Love you too!

Happy Birthday!

[BrightEyedFish]

YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SPOIL IT BEF

I'm not?

[BrightEyedFish]

I'm just trying to be the BEFest that I can be.

[BrightEyedFish]

You all are such good actors I thought you all hated me and I wanted to be friends again. I guess I ruined that too.

Oh geez.

[BrightEyedFish]

Aww screw it. I'M ready for this day to be over. This slot flips red all day err day.

Intent to hammer right now.

VOTE: Romeo and Juliet

[BrightEyedFish]

Oh wait a second, he isn't hammered?

I GET A BIRTHDAY HAMMER.

VOTE: Romeo/Juliet

WOOHOO!

is but one sir's birthday is anoth'r sir's knoweth death day

[BrightEyedFish]

I hammered in your stead, Fishie. Your welcome.

enjoy thy birthday dowries! Knoweth where thy giver lays his head!

[BrightEyedFish]

now, who can steal the page top on page 100 from Boon.

[BrightEyedFish]

I'm totally not lying when I say that I have understood everything posted since the start of D2.

[BrightEyedFish]

So many different people talking different specs and different mechanics.

[BrightEyedFish]

Based on the last VC Dave is in the scum sweet spot with 50 being on another wagon for safety(not being first voter). I could see bright eyed being scum as well based on that since I am null on him.

Oh, I thought everyone TR me. I figured this slot would have to give me the stink eye eventually. /sigh

[BrightEyedFish]

At least one of Aaron/BEF is scum.

Titus, I don't know about aaron but your wrong about me. I'll vote Aaron once i get caught up, there are about 10 pages left to read. Nut you would be wise to not tunnel on me.

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Actually Yeah I'm doubting Titus more and more. She claims neighborizor in a game where appearantly someone joined the hood with Drew and Joan, with the same mod who just finished a game where people just get added to hood because of flavor?

This is screaming a sham.

Would Boon rehash the same mechanics back-to-back exactly the same? In LNT the BOONus rooms were partly randomiyed and that theory still pops up in my head from time to time so I try to suppress it. learned the hard way that hoods are not AI unless there is some type of loyal-like modifier to a neighborizer.

So there are two methods. We systematically murder all people associated with the hoods or we just ignore them.

[BrightEyedFish]

Frost and BEF had jack to do with my unvoting Flips.

Thanks for killing the Town Leader feeling that Titus was giving me.

[BrightEyedFish]

this is why we declare L-1 and check the count before voting.
see you all day 3 i guess?

well this makes my 1st post in this catchup read pretty suspect... oh god. here we go.

[BrightEyedFish]

if it wasn't already, it was a hammer after Bambi voted.

I don't like spoiling everything by reading the newest posts before catching up but damn ... That may have been a good choice this time.

[BrightEyedFish]

Interesting.

UNVOTE: AaronFrost
VOTE: Doctor Drew

Is everyone just screwing around with me now?

[BrightEyedFish]

That wasn't even close to a hammer, I'm surprised by the number of people who bought that. Very interesting for reactions though.

-Hectic

oh man.

I vaguely remember being some votes and a push for aaron, I assumed we were close

[BrightEyedFish]

Behavior modification? I literally act out more if people vote me Dave, not less. I'm the puppy that bites more if you keep using the spray bottle.

VOTE: Bambi

Dance Bambi, Dance.

[BrightEyedFish]

Actually Yeah I'm doubting Titus more and more. She claims neighborizor in a game where appearantly someone joined the hood with Drew and Joan, with the same mod who just finished a game where people just get added to hood because of flavor?

This is screaming a sham.

Would Boon rehash the same mechanics back-to-back exactly the same? In LNT the BOONus rooms were partly randomiyed and that theory still pops up in my head from time to time so I try to suppress it. learned the hard way that hoods are not AI unless there is some type of loyal-like modifier to a neighborizer.

So there are two methods. We systematically murder all people associated with the hoods or we just ignore them.

Uh no, only the ones who have a decent chance of flipping scum, which would be Drew or Joan.

VOTE: Drew

[BrightEyedFish]

Behavior modification? I literally act out more if people vote me Dave, not less. I'm the puppy that bites more if you keep using the spray bottle.

VOTE: Bambi

Dance Bambi, Dance.

Can we not do a PL lynch today?

Sorry, I posted this before you switched your vote.

I promised Titus an Aaron vote but that was before the whole fake hammer thing. So I may have to switch the vote if Titus challenges my honor. But for now I'm with you.

[BrightEyedFish]

Behavior modification? I literally act out more if people vote me Dave, not less. I'm the puppy that bites more if you keep using the spray bottle.

VOTE: Bambi

Dance Bambi, Dance.

Can we not do a PL lynch today?

Sorry, I posted this before you switched your vote.

I promised Titus an Aaron vote but that was before the whole fake hammer thing. So I may have to switch the vote if Titus challenges my honor. But for now I'm with you.

No one wants an AF vote anymore, not even Titus.

Well, then its time for the Doc to pay the piper.

[BrightEyedFish]

RCE let's solidify our bond once again and join me on V&M's quest.

[BrightEyedFish]

RCE let's solidify our bond once again and join me on V&M's quest.

It's already solid on my end.

[BrightEyedFish]

RCE let's solidify our bond once again and join me on V&M's quest.

It's already solid on my end.

That video is blocked in my country. :/

Spoiler:

[BrightEyedFish]

It's Michael Scott saying "that's what she said."

The delivery wasn't all there but I see potential. Keep at it.

[BrightEyedFish]

On a side note, I disdain posts about someone not having an agenda. Every player has an agenda. Finding it finds alignment

My agenda is finding scum. I will become useful when the time is right. In the times of old, I was scum early go-to mislynch. But the wiser scum have passed this information down through the centuries and the youngins have heaved these warnings.

Now I have become a latter-game scum driven mislynch or a lylo WIFOM agent. But these challenges too I shall conquer, rising to the heights of the greats.

[BrightEyedFish]

I am surprised drew hasn't been lunched yet

~Venus

Maybe he will be breakfasted.

[BrightEyedFish]

StickyFruit Vendor
Spoiler:
At night, you will give your target a "Sticky Fruit". They will be informed that they have received a Sticky Fruit, but not who they received it from. They will be informed that they may pass it along the following night. Any player given a Sticky Fruit will be immune to all actions, EXCEPT for killing actions, the night they receive the fruit.

Listen guys I have proof that a variant of this role exists n in this setup. Someone. I have no clue who or what alignment, sent me dirty laundry.

Were you told that you could pass it along the following night?

[BrightEyedFish]

Is anyone trying to save Drew?

[BrightEyedFish]

I know there are a couple of other wagons are out there but I'm not really seeing anyone say don't lynch DD or have I overlooked something?

[BrightEyedFish]

Does anyone have any questions for me?

[BrightEyedFish]

Sure, your day 2 reads would be good. Also what your take is on AF/Joan/drew/nips in general.

Day 2 has been too much setup/mech talk this early in the game. I just can’t keep up/not engaged with that line of info atm.
I will do a quick ISO (disregarding the claims) on those 4 players and see what I get:

AF: Town. I seem to be on page with most of their latest posts.

Joan: Saw Post 2376 and its basically what I just said. I gotta town this slot now.

DD: I like my vote here. Feels a little too easy but you know, sometimes the easiest solution is the right solution.

Nippy: The content isn’t very influential but I can’t really judge based on that because I have been slacking as well in actual content.

[BrightEyedFish]

so we've gone from mech talk to auto correct talk. This game is fascinating.

[BrightEyedFish]

Aww screw it, I guess I have to do this now just to get "involved"

DAYVIG: davesaz

[BrightEyedFish]

my ability ends the day too, so do your twilight stuff

[BrightEyedFish]

Why dave?

A random null to me.

[BrightEyedFish]

Oops.

[BrightEyedFish]

Nancy,

Of all the people here, you believe my vig claim?

[BrightEyedFish]

Why dave?

Aww screw it, I guess I have to do this now just to get "involved"

DAYVIG: davesaz

my ability ends the day too, so do your twilight stuff

The devil is in the details

[BrightEyedFish]

Well we can lynch nips tmo. Then bef. Then bambi.

We can’t lynch anyone until D3 now.

Pretty sure BEF just scumclaimed anyway sooo

This is your surmise. Come on now. You are better than that.

[BrightEyedFish]

Fishie this is the third fucking time I've seen you claim Dayvig. I fear the day nobody believes you anymore but you roll Dayvig legit and fuck everything up.

I can always count on bambi to get it.

[BrightEyedFish]

Rolestopper, for the last fucking time.

Oh, and the dayvig thing? Pulling someone's chain isn't going to work during their sleeping hours
.

I thought about targeting chkflip because I think he was active at the time but it didn't feel right.

[BrightEyedFish]

Fishie this is the third fucking time I've seen you claim Dayvig. I fear the day nobody believes you anymore but you roll Dayvig legit and fuck everything up.

I can always count on bambi to get it.

So was it fake then? Did you just give us all a heart attack for nothing?

Sorry for the PTSD trigger. Yeah it was fake.

@Bambi

Lessduuittt

VOTE: Aaron

[BrightEyedFish]

50JP

Just tell us in exactly 8 words if you are scum or not. Then the issue will be resolved.

[BrightEyedFish]

Nice try Bambi, didn't work out this time with Aaron.

Back to DD I guess.

VOTE: Doctor Drew

[BrightEyedFish]

[BrightEyedFish]

Just tell me what to do. I have zero footing in this game yet. Well other than I TR V&M, Bambi and chk. So for now I'm just trying to keep up with them. But trying to keep up with just 1 of those 3 is hard enough alone.

[BrightEyedFish]

4 days until deadline. D2 has run it's course.

What else are we waiting for?

[BrightEyedFish]

I might as well claim before it is too late.

I was Universal Backup, now I am Novice Odd Night Vig.

And obviously, still a neighbor.

UNVOTE:

Do we get any say on who your target will be on N3?

[BrightEyedFish]

On the bright side I think anything like an Alien or Jailkeeper can protect Drew tonight then.

You think scum shoots a vig? If so, then is it so bad?

[BrightEyedFish]

I have finished reading everything and I have some scum leans I would be down for lynching.

Amrun - I lost my town read on her after reading everything and I'm leaning scum on her and it seems like she has only been placing her votes on town players which one of them got investigated by a Gunsmith and 2 others including my slot who claimed. As a matter of fact, when I iso her she didn't explain at all why she is scum reading the player and all she's doing is dropping votes. I also saw this suspicious when she replied to Titus saying she'd do my flip as previously stated she said before but when I iso her, the only time I saw her mention Clemency was when she said she could tickle Clemency a bit and I didn't even understand what that meant.

Aaron - I have already said this before and I have been suspicious of his Doctor Enabler claim since last game I finished there was a scum Doctor Enabler.

flippynips, BEF, RCEnigma, and Bambi have also went up my radar. I also did not like how Creature said he invested 50 on N1 and said he got roleblocked and why would you want to invest a player on N1 who claimed on D1? He admitted he didn't know 50 claimed but he should have read day 1 on the pages he missed out. Last game I played with Creature, he was scum who fake claimed an invest role and I start to wonder if Creature is a scum joat since he said he has a Cop ability and Tracker ability.

Did Amrun vote Haggle after Dave cleared him or before? because at least half the game has voted that slot prior to that.

Titus also tried to check A50 through neighbourizing so, I don’t see investigating a claim as being scum indicative. Why have Nips, BEF, RCE gone up on your radar?

Amrun voted Haggle before Dave cleared him but I don't like it when someone votes a player with no reasoning and I always find it suspicious. Didn't Titus say somewhere she wanted to neighborize 50 to privately talk to him? Nips, BEF, and RCE are the unclaimed. Players have been speculating 50 got roleblocked and I could have sworn I saw somewhere someone said 50 might have been roleblocked because he said he would visit Nips on N1 and he hasn't been contributing much. I did not like how BEF voted Latios & Latias who counterclaimed 50 and the counter claim looked genuine since scum should never counter claim on day 1 or else they will get lynched on day 1 or day 2 and BEF hasn't been game solving. RCE is one of the unclaimed players and I start to think some of the scum have not claimed and that's why those 3 players have went up my radar.

Are you suggesting that I am scum because I've yet claimed? Nips, RCE and I are the only unclaimed?

[BrightEyedFish]

ahh did I miss the chance to hammer nips?

[BrightEyedFish]

QCHK

I love you but why claim there if you are so against these early claims that have been happening. I get you wanted to stop a mislynch on nips but I think you could have waited for him to claim instead of outing yourself.

[BrightEyedFish]

Previous post was @Chk

[BrightEyedFish]

VOTE: Doctor Drew

[BrightEyedFish]

Wait a second that's Shiro. The mysterious second head.

Glad of you to finally join us.

Who do you want to lynch now? Or who besides AF is viable?

[BrightEyedFish]

And you won't talk about lying about reading the wiki?

Even if this is true, who cares?

[BrightEyedFish]

I think this is how Drew flails. It lacks any good dramatics and vulnerability. DD, you don't have to be so strong all the time. We give you permission to relax.

[BrightEyedFish]

What should I do?

[BrightEyedFish]

Fonz, I crumb well to those who are familiar with moon logic. The odds of me dying on scum and not having people figure it out are low. Announcing my target directly only helps scum.

The same here.

[BrightEyedFish]

Fonz, I crumb well to those who are familiar with moon logic. The odds of me dying on scum and not having people figure it out are low. Announcing my target directly only helps scum.

Which is why I said within a shortlist of three, not declare your target. How do you know none of the people familiar with moon logic are scum?

Why don't we all just claim and announce all our targets?

[BrightEyedFish]

What should I do?

Be the best fish you can be.

A sunfish?

[BrightEyedFish]

This means Chara was the nightkill and Aaron died because Chara probably protected him. Now I understand how this role works.

Is it possible that scum killed someone and a vig killed the other?

[BrightEyedFish]

There's also a character named Falstaff who hides in dirty laundry in a Shakespeare play. So it's flavor accurate. Idk wtf it means but it's flavor accurate.

[BrightEyedFish]

Chaaaarrraaaa why did you have to die I miss you already. </3

I hope it wasn't the stink that did her in.

[BrightEyedFish]

Also, no modifiers or sticky in my pm, in case anyone is wondering.

[BrightEyedFish]

I'll stick with you anyway fish.

Aw thanks. Still not trusting you at 100% but keep trying.

[BrightEyedFish]

I am not caught up but it seems my pushing has caused some confusion so I’ll say this now:

I give out the dead fish. I am petruchio. I am just a fruit vendor (I thought, and do now again).

I gave it to Titus N1 bc she was my strongest TR.

Then she didn’t claim fish, but did claim to be desperate and I got scared I caused that and my fish did something I was unaware of.

So on N2, I targeted adorable since it was a scum read so I wouldn’t mind them becoming desperate.

It seems, though, that I didn’t cause the desperate after all and basically made my role super obvious for no reason. Oh well.

Are we both town?

[BrightEyedFish]

And to clarify, I only send dead fish, period. Not laundry. I never targeted Nancy for any reason.

So a regular Fruit (Fish) Vendor? For a Rolecop and a Tracker to see I guess that works out, and also me.

I got a PM after daystart that confirms one of these roles or a similar one. I'm guessing mod just forgot to send it with the daystart pm.

[BrightEyedFish]

Also, no modifiers or sticky in my pm, in case anyone is wondering.

Speaking of that, how's your scumreads looking buddy?

Looking better. I want to get caught up before I settle on anything.

[BrightEyedFish]

I'll stick with you anyway fish.

Aw thanks. Still not trusting you at 100% but keep trying.

What can I do for you to trust me the way I trust you?

[BrightEyedFish]

Sorry @Titus, who should I aim for? I think it would greatly help if everyone who hasn’t already claimed do so. @RCE, @BEF, Haggle, please claim, thanks.

I thought I did enough already but I'll lay it out:

Dirty Laundry Vendor with no modifiers.

N1: V&M
N2: Chara

[BrightEyedFish]

I ISO'd AF and this is what I concluded:

Spoiler:

On page 10.

Titus tonally reads as frustrated town. I'm tempted to think that Titus vs V&M is tvt but I have no strong basis for that due to having no strong read on V&M.

Don't understand the RCE wagon. Thought it was weird to chk to go after the wording of the post rather than the content of the post which feels nitpicky.

This makes me TR VM and Titus even more. Makes me wonder about RCE.

I think A50, Titus, RCE, V&M and L&L are all town. Having a little bit of a hard time getting actual scumreads right now but that might be because half the playerlist is lurking atm.

If RCE is scum he is not one listed in AF’s PM.

I'm gonna wager that if Drew!scum then Haggle and flip nips probably town.

This pings hard. AF spent alot of time on Haggle.

AF seems significantly less solvey than what I'm used to.

I think I've only played with you once and I was scum so I'm not sure when you've seen me as solvy?

This looks good for dave

Scumreads: Drew, Joan, maybe 50JP depending on whether he clarifies why actions against him failed

Joan and 50JP pinging me now.

I planned on outing it once I realized drew was a scum neighborizer. Dont feed into the bs hes spewing at you

please don't misunderstand, i'm asking for clarification from you so we have as much info as possible from a source that isn't Drew, who i don't trust.

why did those two agree to keep you hidden, did they talk about anything in the hood, etc, is there anything specifically in there that made you realize.

Joan has said next to nothing in the hood. Drew was the one who wanted me to keep quiet about it and was trying to push the theory that Titus was the one who put me in there.

I think Titus is telling the truth about having nothing to do with our hood and Joan claimed doc hence it clicked that it must have been Drew.

Another link with Joan that is not good.

VOTE: Joan

[BrightEyedFish]

My bad

UNVOTE:

HURT: Joan

[BrightEyedFish]

BEF is on my shoot list because he's a scumfuck not bc renegade. I know he's not that.

You sure got triggered by my joan vote. I don't think you have said anything to me this entire game until now.

[BrightEyedFish]

Again, BEF is not the renegade. He's just obviously scum.

You say things like this and then expect me to put any weight behinds your reads. You are proving to us all right now that your reads are shit.

[BrightEyedFish]

BEF is on my shoot list because he's a scumfuck not bc renegade. I know he's not that.

You sure got triggered by my joan vote. I don't think you have said anything to me this entire game until now.

Well I called your interactions with RCE possibly a traitor claim. I did interact with and about you. You just elected to ignore it.

Because those reads were also way off. Unless you think there are 2 traitors?

[BrightEyedFish]

Again, BEF is not the renegade. He's just obviously scum.

You say things like this and then expect me to put any weight behinds your reads. You are proving to us all right now that your reads are shit.

No frankly, I don't expect you to put any weight behind my reads because I'm saying them. Joan is that transparently town by meta and role that only scum and anti-town would push her.

I found connections between her slot on AF. Those connections pinged me the most. 2nd on that list is 50JP.

[BrightEyedFish]

But of your scum teams Titus she's WAY more likely to he connected to them then the Fish, and I refuse to believe they're both town.

Why not? That's the type of move a mod would do to push modgaming. I also am not looking for a full on team but individually scummy slots. Third, BeF and RcE were the ones I got traitor pings on so I kinda dispute most connected.

This is an agree to disagree thing so we can get town working together.

I think we have common ground on the 50JP slot.

[BrightEyedFish]

Fish, what do you think about Frost's interactions with Haggle?

I mentioned in my AF post that AF spent alot of early game interacting/commenting on Haggle.

Post 2197 stood out to me for some reason.

[BrightEyedFish]

Joan's confirmed by Aaron's infiltration.

Also, stop saying I find disagreement scummy Nancy. I don't. Chkflip is obvtown and the only things we agree to are not related to this game.

I think you may be right about Joan but the bolded is 100% NAI and doesn’t confirm jack. Scum!AF infiltrated that hood to find his buddies, that’s why it’s 100% NAI.

Well, I don’t see why it’s scummy. I liked her jumping off of Bambi, so you could be right.

My problem with it is that AF knew 2 people in the scum team. Would he shoot in the dark on N1 to someone who isn't his partner or would he try to link up?

[BrightEyedFish]

Fish, that's fair; however, why Joan over Haggle?

Maybe because later in AFs ISO Joan stood out more. Haggle was more prominent in the early parts of the ISO. I wouldn't be surpised if both are AFs named partners.

HURT: Joan, Haggle, 50JP

[BrightEyedFish]

And to clarify, I only send dead fish, period. Not laundry. I never targeted Nancy for any reason.

So a regular Fruit (Fish) Vendor? For a Rolecop and a Tracker to see I guess that works out, and also me.

I got a PM after daystart that confirms one of these roles or a similar one. I'm guessing mod just forgot to send it with the daystart pm.

I did confirm being tracked. But I got the PM after daystart and after my chara claim.

[BrightEyedFish]

I was mistaken about there being a 2nd laundry claim.

Modifier claims:
N1: Titus (desperate), BEF (Ascetic)
N2: Me (didn't say and outing it isn't helpful to town), can't remember (can't remember)

It would be much harder to find the 2nd modifier claim for N2, as it's not easily ctrl-f. If anyone knows please post.

Remember we have to assume renegade is motivated in order for there to be two modifiers given. This could mean that one modifier is fake.

I never claimed or received a modifier.

[BrightEyedFish]

@rce

Your clear is nice but putting the clear aside, you still wanted to shoot me...

[BrightEyedFish]

so much depends
upon

a red wheel
barrow

glazed with rain
water

beside the white
chickens.

[BrightEyedFish]

I usually don't like lynching empty slots but this rep out feels weird.

[BrightEyedFish]

Update:

HURT: Joan, Haggle, 50JP, Adorable[/quote]

[BrightEyedFish]

Guys, I really don't think it is the case, but then I don't scum read chk either: we do need to try to rule out ascetic Titus scum. Since there's not a lot better for the vendors to do, I suggest they each flip a coin and target Titus on a head. We get Titus to claim what she received BEFORE the vendors claim targets. Either we get to rule out ascetic Titus scum, or we confirm one of the following has to be true.

1. Titus is ascetic scum, lying about her role.
2. Amrun or veeeeery maybe BEF is scum.
3. Scum wasted a roleblock on a fucking fruit vendor.

I'm wary of trusting any other vendor atm.

[BrightEyedFish]

Who got the dirty laundry?

[BrightEyedFish]

Who got the dirty laundry?

Shouldn’t you know?

I do know. But it hasn't been mentioned.

[BrightEyedFish]

Romeo and Juliet [11]:

Chara, Espressojet

, Haggle,

Venus and Mars

, Amrun, davesaz,

AaronFrost

,

BrightEyedFish

, Titus, RCEnigma, Bambi Jay

Doctor Drew [10]:

Emperor flippyNips, Joan of Arc,

BrightEyedFish

,

AaronFrost

, 50 Judge Powers, Bambi Jay, Amrun, Titus, Chemist1442,

Chara

I can't really make anything out of VCA yet. Anyone else?

[BrightEyedFish]

It kind of tough for me to assume that no other scum is on either of those wagons

[BrightEyedFish]

That would narrow possible scum down to:

Haggle, Amrun, davesaz Titus, RCEnigma, Bambi Jay, Emperor flippyNips, Joan of Arc, 50 Judge Powers, Chemist1442

lol. I'm so good at VCA.

[BrightEyedFish]

Nancy world:

Spoiler:

50 Judge Powers

Creature
Haggle

Joan of Arc

Chemist1442
BrightEyedFish

Amrun

Bambi Jay
RCEnigma

Emperor flippyNips
Weiss Schnee

Titus
davesaz

I guess she was most skeptical of the a50/flip clear?

50JP and Joan seem to scum ping in every list, vca, PoE. Is it fair to say that barring a night action revelation, that is our starting point for the day?

[BrightEyedFish]

VOTE: 50JP

[BrightEyedFish]

BrightEyedFish
CLAIM: Dirty Laundry Vendor
N1: V&M
N2: Chara
N3: I would like to wait for all to post today before outing.

[BrightEyedFish]

Where is "Announcing" as a modifier described? Is it the same as loud?

@BEF -- Didn't you get an announcement from Creature n2?

Spoiler:

DEAD TOWN

CHK
CLAIM: rolestopper
N1: a50
N2: bambi

Fonz -- no one ever received any messages?

LIVING PLAYERS

50 Judge Powers
CLAIM: 1-shot Recharged Desperate Weak Visitor
N1: targeted Nips. I obviously loved through it, but my 1-shot was used up. [CHK claims to have rolestopped 50 judge this night] --> 50 Judge survives,

Consequence: Nips is town

, 50 judge's shot is not recharged,

Consequence: nips is miller?

-- for more discussion on these conclusions, see 8037
N2: No action/nothing received
N3: No action/nothing received

CLAIM: Announcing Jack of all Trades (cop, PT cop, track) that resets after all of the abilities are used
N1: Copped A50 - no result -- A50 was rolestopped by CHK
D1: Lost both cop and PT cop due to juvenile deliquent and technically became a tracker
N2: Tracked BEF - visited Chara
N3: Tracked Titus - no result [Titus became ascetic?]

Haggle
CLAIM:
N1:
N2:
N3:

Joan of Arc
CLAIM: Loyal Doc
N1: Titus
N2: Chemist
N3: Titus

Chemist1442
CLAIM: Odd-night Weak Hider --> Odd-night Weak Loyal Hider
N1: No action. Received loyal (was not informed of this until N2, presumably due to moderror)
N2: Received message, presumably from Fonz, giving me a code to soft my target and telling me to namecheck a rapper in my first post if I got it (hence the DK rap)
N3: Targeted Creature. Received Dirty Laundry --> Action confirmed by Bambi, Consequence

Chemist claims same-alignment as Creature, and is always lynched before Creature if in doubt

BrightEyedFish
CLAIM: Dirty Laundry Vendor
N1: V&M
N2: Chara
N3: I would like to wait for all to post today before outing. [presumbly either chemist or creature?]

Amrun
CLAIM: dead fish vendor
N1: fish to Titus [confirmed by Titus]
N2: fish to Adorable/Weiss [confirmed by Weiss]
N3: fish to Fonz

Bambi Jay
CLAIM: Odd-night Follower, Even-night Voyeur
N1: Follow Chara (result "Chara went nowhere")
N2: Voyeur Titus --> Action failed. [CHK claimed a rolestop on Bambi Jay n2, thus making action fail on Titus not due to roleblock shot]
N3: Followed Chemist because he claimed loyal hider and wanted to confirm if his action succeeded or failed. It succeeded. [perhaps cross-confirmed by BEF?]

RCEnigma
CLAIM: joat (1shot disloyal vig, 1 shot RB, 1 shot?) --> Ascetic JOAT
N1: disloyal vig: bef (Ascetic modifier received)

Permanent modifier #1 claimed

N2: no action
N3: no action

Emperor flippyNips
CLAIM:
N1:
N2:
N3:

Weiss Schnee
CLAIM: Non-Consective rolecop
N1: copped bambi - Result: Follower/Voyeur
d1: cop enabler flipped d1
N2: received dead fish
N3: [nothing]

Claim: Neighborizer --> Desperate Neighborizer --> Ascetic Desperate Neighborizer
N1: A50, made desperate before targeting role stays with, got dead fish [A50 was rolestopped by chk]

Permanent modifiers #2 given N1

N2: Venus and Mars [action failed, V&M flipped town]
N3: A50 (bc I am convinced Nips is scum but miller fake means auto death), made ascetic

davesaz
CLAIM:
N1:
N2:
N3:

Yes I did. Chemist was my N3 target.

[BrightEyedFish]

@BEF and Chemist, do either of your role pms indicate whether chemist would receive a fruit successfully if he hid successfully?

I don't receive any info if my action is successful or not.

[BrightEyedFish]

I think we need another wall of claims again.

DID SOMEBODY SAY WALL OF CLAIMS?

Spoiler:

DEAD SCUM
Aaron -- Traitor, Party Crasher, VARIANT #1

DEAD TOWN

Nancy -- Suicide Bomber, BOON BANK #1

CHK
CLAIM: rolestopper
N1: a50
N2: bambi

Fonz --
n2 - Chemist

LIVING PLAYERS

50 Judge Powers
CLAIM: 1-shot Recharged Desperate Weak Visitor
N1: targeted Nips. I obviously loved through it, but my 1-shot was used up. [CHK claims to have rolestopped 50 judge this night] --> 50 Judge survives,

Consequence: Nips is town

, 50 judge's shot is not recharged,

Consequence: nips is miller?

-- for more discussion on these conclusions, see 8037
N2: No action/nothing received
N3: No action/nothing received

Creature
CLAIM: Announcing Jack of all Trades (cop, PT cop, track) that resets after all of the abilities are used
N1: Copped A50 - no result -- A50 was rolestopped by CHK
D1: Lost both cop and PT cop due to juvenile deliquent and technically became a tracker
N2: Tracked BEF - visited Chara
N3: Tracked Titus - no result [Titus became ascetic?]

CLAIM: Psychologist Neighbour
N1: Our neighbour cannot cause death (has not specified neighbor but it sure seems like it should be chemist?)
N2: Nothing
N3: Nothing

Joan of Arc
CLAIM: Loyal Doctor Neighbor
N1: Titus
N2: Chemist
N3: Titus

Chemist1442
CLAIM: Odd-night Weak Hider --> Odd-night Weak Loyal Hider
N1: No action. Received loyal (was not informed of this until N2, presumably due to moderror)

Renegade action #2 for n1

N2: Received message, presumably from Fonz, giving me a code to soft my target and telling me to namecheck a rapper in my first post if I got it (hence the DK rap)
N3: Targeted Creature. Received Dirty Laundry --> Action confirmed by Bambi, Consequence

Chemist claims same-alignment as Creature, and is always lynched before Creature if in doubt

BrightEyedFish
CLAIM: Dirty Laundry Vendor
N1: V&M
N2: Chara [

reminder, Chara was nk'd this night

]; received an "announcement" from Creature (

forgot to mention this on this card at first

)
N3: I would like to wait for all to post today before outing. [presumbly either chemist or creature?]

Amrun
CLAIM: dead fish vendor
N1: fish to Titus [confirmed by Titus]
N2: fish to Adorable/Weiss [confirmed by Weiss]
N3: fish to Fonz [

reminder, Fonz was nk'd this night

]

Bambi Jay
CLAIM: Odd-night Follower, Even-night Voyeur
N1: Follow Chara (result "Chara went nowhere")
N2: Voyeur Titus --> Action failed. [CHK claimed a rolestop on Bambi Jay n2, thus making action fail on Titus not due to roleblock shot]
N3: Followed Chemist because he claimed loyal hider and wanted to confirm if his action succeeded or failed. It succeeded. [perhaps cross-confirmed by BEF?]

RCEnigma
CLAIM: joat (1shot disloyal vig, 1 shot RB, 1 shot?) --> Ascetic JOAT
N1: disloyal vig: bef (Ascetic modifier received)

Permanent modifier #1 claimed

N2: no action
N3: no action

Emperor flippyNips
CLAIM:
N1:
N2:
N3:

Weiss Schnee
CLAIM: Non-Consective rolecop
N1: copped bambi - Result: Follower/Voyeur
d1: cop enabler flipped d1
N2: received dead fish
N3: [nothing]

Titus
Claim: Neighborizer --> Desperate Neighborizer --> Ascetic Desperate Neighborizer
N1: A50, made desperate before targeting role stays with, got dead fish [A50 was rolestopped by chk]

Permanent modifiers #3 given N1

N2: Venus and Mars [action failed, V&M flipped town]
N3: A50 (bc I am convinced Nips is scum but miller fake means auto death), made ascetic

renegade action n3 #1

davesaz
CLAIM: Gunsmith (flavored as a daggersmith)
N1: check Haggle, no dagger (gun). Notified that action is no longer available starting N2 due to juvenile delinquent flip.
N2: no action available. [received a modifier] --

night 2 renegade action

N3: nada

FWIW, I didn't receive an announcement from Creature. I was just told from mod that I was tracked.

[BrightEyedFish]

Creature getting a scumbuddy to fake loud track you is too complicated to bother being considered tbh

I thought so, just wanted to make sure the info is accurate.

Has nips been replaced?

I wouldn't mind jumping on the Joan wagon but I want to believe Titus. I'm torn there. 50JP needs more votes I reckon.

[BrightEyedFish]

Why's A50 better than Joan fishy?

Just going off of Titus.

[BrightEyedFish]

But chemist also claims to have been renegaded n1 which makes no sense

Rce can be scum but doing the guy with the stinky rengaded claim vs the slot that is what obviously the renegade makes no sense to me

Like we can get joan's flip and that will probably tell us more about what this renegade was or wasn't capable of

To me, Joan isn't obviously the renegade. She claimed to visit me after Creature's track. Why make herself look bad?

Like if you're going to lynch Joan do it. But I don't think it's a good lynch. If I am wrong, I can compare to who else is voting with me.

Do you think or do you know its a bad lynch.

[BrightEyedFish]

I

[BrightEyedFish]

Now that Titus isn't 100% sure I don't feel as cautious voting for Joan. I was under the impression that Titus had more than meta info.

VOTE: Joan

[BrightEyedFish]

why do you people want me on ascestic RCE tonight? V&M and Chemist already confirmed my role.

[BrightEyedFish]

I don't have an issue with sending it to RCE if that's what's best for mech solving but confirming my slot/alignment would just be repetitive at this point.

[BrightEyedFish]

I don't have an issue with sending it to RCE if that's what's best for mech solving but confirming my slot/alignment would just be repetitive at this point.

How's it an alignment check?

Not for sure. White Snow said she didn't trust me, which I assumed she meant alignment-wise since my role has already been confirmed.

[BrightEyedFish]

lol @ me subconsciously translating there. I've been here too long.

[BrightEyedFish]

Are we booning or not booning?

Do you wish to be the sniffer of my dirty clothes?

[BrightEyedFish]

Who the FUCK dumped this Dirty Laundry on me???

-Hectic

Have you not payed attention?

[BrightEyedFish]

Romeo and Juliet [11]:

Chara, Espressojet

, Haggle,

Venus and Mars

, Amrun, davesaz,

AaronFrost

,

BrightEyedFish

,

Titus

, RCEnigma, Bambi Jay

Doctor Drew [10]:

Emperor flippyNips,

Joan of Arc

,

BrightEyedFish

,

AaronFrost

, 50 Judge Powers, Bambi Jay, Amrun,

Titus

, Chemist1442,

Chara

Updated this.

[BrightEyedFish]

>Miller in a Shakespeare theme game
>Flavor of miller is NOT Falstaff

?????????????????

wat

I'm Falstaff...

[BrightEyedFish]

Town:
Chemist
Haggle
Amrun
Weiss
Dave

Probably Scum:
Bambi
RCE
Nips

Scum:
50JP
Creature

[BrightEyedFish]

wait it doesn't matter, BEF knew he was tracked because of announcing

Post 6178 is where I crumbed Chara as my target

and wrt to Creature's announce, I received the PM from mod well after Daystart

Read my post 6478.

[BrightEyedFish]

Gotcha, good to know

Town:
Chemist
Haggle
Amrun
Weiss
Dave

Probably Scum:
Bambi
RCE
Nips

Scum:
50JP
Creature

this still pretty much where you're at?

I guess you have Amrun above me, maybe sell me on 50J scum? I feel like I'm just really comfortable with my townread there and don't want too second-guess it but if there's something really significant there I've missed I'd like to hear it

otherwise I'd ask you to sell me on Amrun over you but it seems like that's not really what you want?

That's my general foundation atm. The groups aren't ordered in most/less town or scum. So you aren't above or under Amrun, I have you both as a TR. The Probably scum group are people I'm trusting atm.

[BrightEyedFish]

EBWOP:

People I'm NOT trusting atm...

[BrightEyedFish]

if I'm wrong on BEF and he's town, Nancy will say I told you so. If I'm wrong on Amrun and she's town, Titus will say I told you so

What Nancy or Titus think shouldn't be a deciding factor because they can't say there reads have been spot on this game either.

[BrightEyedFish]

@Weiss

I haven't forgot about you 50JP question for me. I'll get to that when I have time to ISO for links, etc. (In a couple of hours)

[BrightEyedFish]

After re-reading the latter parts of JP50s iso, with emphasis on the Joan lynch posts, it makes me think they are not the same alignment. I am kind of TRing 50JP now.

Joan of Arc [7]:

50 Judge Powers, Amrun, Weiss Schnee, RCEnigma, Titus, Joan of Arc, Bambi Jay ———

[EXECUTED]

Why is my vote missing from the VCA?

Now that Titus isn't 100% sure I don't feel as cautious voting for Joan. I was under the impression that Titus had more than meta info.

VOTE: Joan

I kind of want to look to those NOT on the Joan wagon. Which should include Bambi, Haggle, Emperor flippyNips, Chemist1442, Davesaz,

Creature.

Man...

Why are we doing absolutely no progress towards finding scum?

My sui bomb is today’s lynch. Remember Shiro had to ask about that?

Wait you have suicide bomb?

BEF visited Chara

I didn't want to reveal that earlier because it would ruin the momentum of chk wagon

The difference/progession in posts 6925 and 6935 is not adding up, especially when you realize they are only 4 mins apart.

VOTE: Creature

[BrightEyedFish]

Ok, even though I just said that, I think it’s weird that BEF is voting creature.

I feel like, mechanically, BEF should suspect me. But an eventual Amrun townflip looks bad for BEF.

Who should I vote then? Myself?

Also, LNT had 2 Town Vendors so why should I automatically scum read you for that?

[BrightEyedFish]

Also, if you are town, lynching me will ultimatly lead to your lynch the next day. Just like in LNT.

[BrightEyedFish]

And why suspect CREATURE as BEF, who theoretically should be aligned? Pushing Creature is a big brain scum play here I’m not 100% sure BEF is capable of but I think mechanically BEF has a decent shot at being scum, and I’d love to resolve this once and for all.

Here is the progress in this last sentence:

Scum!BEF makes a big scum play, BEF isn't capable of a big scum play, but BEF is probably scum.

Wow.

[BrightEyedFish]

And why suspect CREATURE as BEF, who theoretically should be aligned?

Then why did Creature start the wagon on me if we are aligned?

[BrightEyedFish]

[quote="In post 8717, Amrun"]
I’m not totally convinced you are scum, that’s all. /quote]

Convinced enough to L-1 me though.

[BrightEyedFish]

That doesn’t make you not a good lynch though. Sorry.

I will flip town and you will be lynched tomorrow. Not because you will be scum read but because of the SAME REASON you are voting me right now.

[BrightEyedFish]

Why does scum Creature track you on that night From your POV?

Scum!Creature would probably be fishing for a PR or one of the other scum partners by tracking me, I would assume.

[BrightEyedFish]

Why would Town!Creature be so nonchalant with announcing that he tracked me on Chara right after Chara was NKd?

[BrightEyedFish]

Why does scum Creature track you on that night From your POV?

Scum!Creature would probably be fishing for a PR or one of the other scum partners by tracking me, I would assume.

Can you explain this post to me?

That would be the purpose of any scum!tracker in any game. To snuff out TPRs.

[BrightEyedFish]

and in this game we know there are 2 scum groups so I would assume a scum!tracker would also attempt to use their power to find the unknown partners.

[BrightEyedFish]

But you were already known to be a dirty laundry vendor at that point.

False. It was known there was a dirty vendor but I had not claimed until, after the Chara NK iirc.

[BrightEyedFish]

Second Intermission

has begun! Send in all actions by the deadline.

(expired on 2020-01-24 13:00:00)
____________


Act 3 Begins!!!

AaronFrost

has died! He was a...

Spoiler:

Evil Magical Disguise Lords of the Boonski’i

Welcome,

AaronFrost

, you are

Brutus

,

Split Willbooster Party Crasher

.

Be not deceived. If I have veiled my look, I turn the trouble of my countenance Merely upon myself. Vexèd I am Of late with passions of some difference, Conceptions only proper to myself, Which give some soil perhaps to my behaviors. But let not therefore, my good friends, be grieved— Among which number, Cassius, be you one— Nor construe any further my neglect Than that poor Brutus, with himself at war, Forgets the shows of love to other men.

i;ii Julius Caesar

Abilities:

• You are a

Willbooster

. This will make whoever you target unable to be blocked.
• You are a

Party Crasher

. At night, you may target someone. If you target someone in a private thread, you will join that private thread.
• You have the

Split

modifier. If you have the ability to do so, you MUST use at least 2 actions on at least 2 different players.
• You know that there are a total of 5 Evil Magical Disguise Lords of the Boonski’i. Your teammates are separated into 2 different Evil Lairs in pairs, one pair kills on Odd-Nights, one pair kills on Even-Nights. They will combine Evil Lairs when a certain condition has been met. You know that

REDACTED

and

REDACTED

are 2 of your partners. Your Party Crash ability will

NOT

succeed by targeting them, but they will work on your other 2 partners. However, if you are to be killed by the factional kill, you will instead be recruited into the Evil Lair Private Thread and be able to make the factional kill. If you somehow find yourself as the last Evil Lord alive, you will join the Evil Lair Private Thread and be able to make the factional kill.

Win condition:

You win when all of the Bard’s Battalion have died, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

Chara

has died! They were a...

Spoiler:

Bard’s Battalion

Welcome,

Chara

, you are

Othello

,

Non-consecutive Babysitter

.

Even so my bloody thoughts with violent pace
Shall ne’er look back, ne’er ebb to humble love.

iii;iii Othello

Abilities:

• You are a

Babysitter

. At night, you may target a player. You will protect them from a night kill. If you are to be killed, you will kill your target as well.
• You have the

Non-Consecutive

modifier. You may not use your ability 2 nights in a row.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the Bard’s Battalion have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

There's also a character named Falstaff who hides in dirty laundry in a Shakespeare play. So it's flavor accurate. Idk wtf it means but it's flavor accurate.

Also, no modifiers or sticky in my pm, in case anyone is wondering.