Open 770: Fusion Mafia - Game Over!

[Elements]

VOTE: Hopkirk

VOTE: Aida

I think it's quite interesting how scum have decided to bus each other this early especially given the lovers thing insensitivises them to be alive for as long as possible.
VOTE: saudade

[Elements]

Hectic please towntell.

You've never told him what it is so it might be hard for him to do so

[Elements]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

More of a ruby person myself.

VOTE: George

More of a sapphire person myself.

[Elements]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

More of a ruby person myself.

VOTE: George

More of a sapphire person myself.

Aloha.

VOTE: Elements

More of an aquamarine fellow myself.

I can't tell if you've completely missed the reference or not

[Elements]

Enlightened

Stop crumbing super saint. No one will believe you

[Elements]

Elements, after much introspection, I would like to humbly apologise for my previous comment. I had not looked too far into the picked gems so in wanting to join in, I rashly picked the fourth one that came into my mind. After being called out on my mistake, I reflexively came out somewhat aggressively which I would like to doubly apologise for. This is something I've been trying hard to work on so here's a triple apology.

This is clearly a heartfelt apology, which I fully accept, and is something scum would never do due to their nefarious and twisted minds.

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VOTE: Hectic
Why haven’t you solved the game yet?

I don't know, Norwee, why haven't I solved the game yet? I think it's a little suspicious that you're assuming I

haven't

solved the game yet. One more snide remark like that, and I'l have no choice but to lock you as scum.

VOTE: Profii

Not everything revolves around you Hectic, only most things. I think this was a scum slip by Norway. Their vote on Hectic being meaningless and then the question of mockery, disguised as a stab at Hectic, addressed truly to the whole town as a "why haven't you solved the game yet, it's so obvious. I know who the scum are. hahaha".
VOTE: Norway

[Elements]

Have you done a lot of Where's Wally books?

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VOTE: Hectic
Why have you solved the game already?

I know exactly why Norwee, why have I solved the game. I think it's incredibly unsuspicious that you're not assuming I

have

solved the game. Six more snide remarks like that, and I'l have many choices including to lock you as neutral.

VOTE: Profii

Everything revolves around you Hectic. I think this was a town slip by Norway. Their vote on Hectic being meaningful and then the question ofpraise, openly a defense of Hectic, addressed falsely to Proffi and Edguf as a "why have you solved the game already, it's not obvious. I don't know who the town are. ffffff".
UNVOTE: Norway

!

I was as excited as you are

[Elements]

The problem with, and the main reason I don't, 2D buses is they can only fit 1D people on them. Like how 3D busses can only fit 2D people on them. It massively restricts everything I could want to do in the future.

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Does rvs actually exist?

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I hardclaim scum, none of you will lynch me you've no balls

Can we lynch this? It'll be funny.
VOTE: saudade

[Elements]

Watch these two get pair as lovers

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Nice damage control

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sausage is bad
hectic is dodgy
profii is good

[Elements]

why are we having such a big discussion about someone who's said 2 words?

[Elements]

Why am I scummy?

you never ask this as town

[Elements]

Don't worry, I've got a mega readslist coming later that should clear all suspicion on me. I've also got a nice solve hidden in there as well, but only the top tier players like Flopz will be able to spot it.

[Elements]

At this point hectic, if you're town we lynch hop

[Elements]

Townread on Elements is odd

why is townreading me odd?
are you saying you don't townread me?
why not?
that's not very nice
I feel personally attacked

[Elements]

That reminds me, 'townblock'.

Doesn't work anymore. There is now 1? game I remember scum you townblocking

[Elements]

I think elements is a good lynch tbh

And so it begins.

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How many games have I played with you sausge?

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what makes me a good lynch other then you need someone to say is a good lynch?

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do you even know my towntells?

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that's a stoopider answer

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the thing is sausage, you're lawful evil and I'm chaotic good. We're opposite sides of the spectrum so rub against each other like two pieces of low grade sand paper

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yee

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I'm not

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Why didn't you say "yes" more formally, is it because you are scum or because you are chaotic good?

I feel like this is a trap

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I hardclaim scum, none of you will lynch me you've no balls

VOTE: Saudade
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VOTE: Saudade

This guy has balls

[Elements]

The ones that voted Saudade
Profii
Elements
Hectic
Edguf
Norge (L-2)
(Hectic off)
Flopz
(Profii off)

The question is do we think scum joined the lol-wagon ? Or do we think they stayed away to avoid a contentious scenario?

Thoughts please

I think they didn't want to bus so early

[Elements]

so hectic and you are likely scum with sausage

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Funny how you're saying im scum with such confidence on page 10

I remember you doing the same thing

[Elements]

what makes you thin im not doubting myself

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if i was doubting it why would i let on that I was doubting it?

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You can get more, and bigger reactions from people but not being transparent

[Elements]

where does the scum motivation come from in my play?

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It's not a mislynch if you're scum

[Elements]

Who is#241 addressing?

anyone

[Elements]

that is what i was implying in that post yes

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I mostly interested if people feel that way or not

I don't

[Elements]

VOTE: Frank

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VOTE: norway

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My townblock has Norwegian, Saudade, Hopkirk, Flopz, and Profii in it right now. I probably even remembered half of those names right.

Why am I not in there?
I've been abrasive and I've tunnelled.
Are those not my town tells?

[Elements]

UNVOTE:

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If you'll never get into this game, that makes you unhelpful and a liability later in the game. You're better of lynched.
VOTE: sausage

[Elements]

come on now you might as well just claim scum

I'm not you

[Elements]

No votes for “Frank” were counted.

):

[Elements]

Definitley does in her sum games
Can't remember her town game

[Elements]

at least I'm not a hyprcrite

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nor can i spell

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Your mum is your nan

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That doesn't work if the overly scummy player happens to be town

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I don't think tactically leaving players alive helps town in the slightest. It just leaves the potential for mafia to get more night kills and to potentially wifom the pairings. If we think we've found scum, we should lynch them.

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VOTE: norway

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UNVOTE:

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Was he scum in the haunted house game?

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I was a hydra with chennis but whenever i spoke everyone called us scum so I stopped

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I think norway is probably town then

[Elements]

I think norway is probably town then

Why?

You've got a nice vibe.
I didn't like the suggestion you "stole" from hoptic and scumread you for that but then it was revealed you weren't the first to come up with it so that all dandy.

[Elements]

Profii seems towny
Pops seems like pops. I can't read pops.

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I'm not sure Elements read progression on Norwee was real. I don't understand why he would scumread Norwee at the outset

It was a "that was a scummy thing to say so ill shove you in the scum pile"

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I forgot you were even in the game
VOTE: Ankamius

[Elements]

Nvm
UNVOTE:

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VOTE: edguf

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UNVOTE:
this is going well

[Elements]

nope, just being a goof

[Elements]

Nothing personal, but I'm scumreading your slot for meta reasons.

That's why I voted egduf, but I liked the replacement entrance

[Elements]

I have a chance to be paired with Ank against her will in this game, the dream I knew could never come true in Starry Night Mafia might just come true

ank-pops scum anyone?

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Btw I saw at some point that people were suggesting leaving scum alive in this setup.

I'd be very shocked if only town supported that, because that idea is fundamentally incorrect in this setup.

Nothing personal, but I'm scumreading your slot for meta reasons.

That's why I voted egduf, but I liked the replacement entrance

What'd you like?

that

[Elements]

VOTE: pops

[Elements]

That's so political it hurts

I've come to the conclusion that you're either town or scum. If you're not town, than I'd have to conclude you're scum. However, if I am incorrect in my assumption that you are not town, it would mean you are infact

town.

In that case, you would not be scum, but I also have to take into account that my incorrect assumption could be correct, therefore making you

scum.

I rest my case.

It's things like this that got you killed in the first place

[Elements]

Norway, pops, ank?

[Elements]

Thank you for such compliment. I am truly honoured.

[Elements]

VOTE: ank

[Elements]

the opposite of down

[Elements]

No

I'm getting to a much bigger point, namely that you are approaching this entire read and engagement from a mindset that doesn't include actually getting a read on my slot.

Nothing you have said throughout this has shown as such, when I would generally expect town to either try to sort what I'm trying to do, engage me on different terms, or really just show any more genuine thought process than just repeating the same thing over and over again after sidestepping my rebuttals

I have reasons in the first several pages to think you're scum as well but this really isn't helping your case.

VOTE: ank

[Elements]

the sky

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VOTE: I didn't understand the progression behind why Elements was voting Saudade (now my slot) and didn't like how he was focusing on it to the exclusion of everything else
because we are not compatible players

[Elements]

me and sausage

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your reaction to the existence of the fudge meta is scummy in and of itself. Start playing as town rather than shouting about how fudge was on holiday. Then people might start town reading you

[Elements]

It's fine hectic, if hop gets paired with ank we just lynch them both and win

[Elements]

then vote them?

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I modded Undertale Semi-Open, which Elements won as scum.

My proudest achievement

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me and sausage

You voted saudade and kept your vote there for 10 pages because you don’t like him?

That’s kinda hilarious ngl

[Elements]

ask me stuff

If you could change one thing about the human race, what would it be?

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ask me stuff

If you could change one thing about the human race, what would it be?

we get wings

ooh that's a good one
Profii town

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ofrhz george anyone?

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no

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In this, everyone seems like veterans who have some crazy insight and I'm just watching feeling slightly befuddled.

Don't worry, just say whatever you want. It's what I do and I don't always get lynched day 1.

[Elements]

what about anyone else you could read?

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I'm going to be mildly upset if the game really is as easy as the scumteam just being Hectic/pisskop/NorwegianEE

Why would it be? What links them?

[Elements]

Or is it just else is town?

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what about anyone else you could read?

I don't think you expressed that sentiment when people were voting me for being unreadable

so what?

[Elements]

why does that have any relevance?

[Elements]

why does that have any relevance?

this was for dunn

[Elements]

define new

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Aisa's been on since 2013

[Elements]

Hectic has played a lot of mafia in various forms

[Elements]

that doesn't answer my question and was painfully predicable

[Elements]

if you want to see another hectic game
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=80818
this is a good example of him not getting lost or being inexperienced (except that he lynched me)

[Elements]

I think Elements and George have shown signs of distancing from each other and I think Elements is behaving like mafia

what are the signs of distancing?
You also haven't answered my question

[Elements]

if you're scum reading my why aren't you voting me? but instead voting someone because you can't read them? Doesn't make much sense to me.
How is asking about reads "taking the high ground"?

[Elements]

your wagon was never going to become a lynch
the george one might
therefore the george one needs more analysing

[Elements]

I think norway is probably town then

Why?

You've got a nice vibe.
I didn't like the suggestion you "stole" from hoptic and scumread you for that but then it was revealed you weren't the first to come up with it so that all dandy.

Some other people pointed this out already, but why would someone else coming up with the idea before me change your read on me from scummy to town?

I didn't remember the others doing it and because they did it's either multiple scum trying to push the idea or nai. as i townread hop im going with the latter and i like the rest of you

[Elements]

if we lynch scum day one no one gets night killed

[Elements]

The original setup is ambiguous about whether scum get just 1 more kill or no more kills. I was wondering about it too.

if scum got another kill after the pairing it would make lylo at 3 scum and 6 town ie only two mislynches

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my first scum game i won, my second scum game i replaced into and was lynched that day

[Elements]

VOTE: dunn

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VOTE: flopz
I just remain unconvinced flopz is town when I read posts from you. I can go into it more when I'm less hungover (and I've fully worked out which posts I've missed by posting happy new year at 3am last night ha ha )

Do you like Dunn now?

[Elements]

Dunn might be town here. He's self aware enough to know his scum-meta is too post less and do less scumhunting, so this would be suicide as scum for him. I think he just doesn't care enough to post this game or maybe is setting a precedent that this behaviour can come from town!him.

Excuse me what.
Dunn is currently playing his scum meta so he's probably not scum.
Let me think about that for a sec while I keep my vote on him.

[Elements]

So now you're saying this isn't his scum meta.
Make up your mind.

[Elements]

Hectic Dunn anyone?

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Coz I only express scum reads

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I'm also wary after that game of resistance

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which one

The one where we didn't repeat the same mission twice when we should have

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Yea, to be fair that was me just playing badly

[Elements]

I quite like ank

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ofrhz is town
norway is scum
dunn is town
aisa is town
profil is scum
pops is scum
edguf is town
george is scum
hectic is scum
hoppie is town
ele is scum
flopz is scum

That's a lot of scum for a 3 scum game. Do you think you've maybe got some of those wrong?

[Elements]

I'm as confused as you are

[Elements]

Is team mafia taking it’s toll on the activity of this game?

Are you scum?

Am i?

a town player would be able to say no in good conscience imo so yep you are scum

seems legit
VOTE: norway

[Elements]

Does anyone townread Profii?

ye

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my reads are absolutely fucked

That's not an uncommon thing when playing this game.

[Elements]

I love community!

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That is the best episode

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I love the office

Which one?

[Elements]

and the only slots I feel are particularly town anymore are elements and ofrhz

I'm so excited, this is the first time anyone has town read my day one!

[Elements]

I'm so excited, this is the first time anyone has town read my day one!

Wtf tell me your secret

Thinking the UK office is superior

[Elements]

Elements, PK. Why are you two still voting me?

Because I haven't changed my vote yet
VOTE: hectic

[Elements]

VOTE: dunn

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what's the vote count?

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Votecount 1.9

(4) Dunnstral

- (GeorgeBailey, Flopz, NorwegianboyEE, Elements)

(L-3)

(2) GeorgeBailey

- (Dunnstral, Hectic)

(2) pisskop

- (Gamma Emerald, Hopkirk)

(2) NorwegianboyEE

- (pisskop, popsofctown)

(2)Flopz

- (profii, Ankamius)

ofhrz is not voting.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-01-08 01:19:00)

Hectic is V/LA until Monday.

Corrected at 1:06pm 1/5/20 EST.

Ta

[Elements]

{vote]flopz[/vote]

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VOTE: flopz
oops

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I'm fairly disgusted with the collapse of the Pisskop wagon.

f(x)?

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Yea he's no where near hammer, I changed my vote flopz

[Elements]

I feel like there's a lot of people saying they think flopz is dodgy but not that many actually voting him

[Elements]

I was town leaning you

[Elements]

I was town leaning you

I just realised that's a was, what changed?

I voted you so I could be like "look, there was basically no resisitance to the flopz wagon" but then It grew very slowly

[Elements]

http://warwick-mafia.freeforums.net/thr ... s-disguise

You Won t be able to infer who I am

[Elements]

pops!scum has disturbing implications for the game

Please elaborate

[Elements]

Looker, why is gamma scum?

[Elements]

Just fyi Amrun, that font is REALLY hard to read for people using the dark theme.

Is this one better? Dark theme didn’t exist last time I missed.

Yeah, that's 100x better.

100x0 is still 0
*dabs*

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Just fyi Amrun, that font is REALLY hard to read for people using the dark theme.

Is this one better? Dark theme didn’t exist last time I missed.

Yeah, that's 100x better.

100x0 is still 0
*dabs*

please disregard this post

[Elements]

It's too late, you're lockscum. Only reason I'm not voting you is because it'd be seen as obvious bussing.

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VOTE: dunn

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That Dunn wagon contains my entire scumpool (George, Hectic, Norway, Profii, Pisskop)

why pk?
they just hammered a townie. That's super dangerous for scum because it makes them look rlly bad.

[Elements]

VOTE: profii

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I find that in times like these it's often a good idea to sheep hopkirk

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VOTE: norway[/vote

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@hop
Because I town read you and know you're good at the game

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VOTE: norway

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I'm still not a fan of profii
all his posts rub me the wrong way

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VOTE: norway